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You'd lose your bet. He was a full Colonel in the Indian Army (the modern one).Originally Posted by Big Dog
Surprising common, how many of the Indian immigrants (and more so still, the Sikhs) have had military experience. Go talk to them, you may be surprised.
Nana
The only exception to any rule is that there is an exception to every rule...
In my time managing retail outlets I had Corporate CEO's, doctors, phramacists, business owners, but never a General.
Forum whore
Of course the debate is made irrelevent by the easy access to firearms we have. Last night on the TV news we were shown gang gun collections seized by police. Of course there were plenty of sporting guns, but also no end of military rifles, machine guns and even a rocket launcher.
The real facts are, criminals will always have access to firearms. Do you think the good guys should be allowed them too ?
p.s. got a file and a drill press ?
http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/
David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
England at the moment is a classic example. Private posession is almost gone, yet London in particular suffers a fairly high crime rate which is firearms related. A friend over there says she "goes to sleep to the sound of gunfire" in the area in which she lives.
Should the good guys be allowed them? Any law abiding citizen should be allowed them if they are deemed to be a good citizen who is "fit and proper".
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Kiwi back at home!
pfft guns are so last century
Got some diesel and some fertiliser and a car?
e mare libertas
But I bet there weren't any pistols, were there? Go find some stats on the percentage of firearms injuries and homicides in the USA caused by handguns vis-a-vis shoulder weapons. Battle rifles and machine guns have limited application to an urban criminal's needs.
Tut tut, you and your fallacious gun-nut appeals to emotion... at least so far you've avoided Thinking of the Children or accusing anyone of National Socialist tendencies.
Right now, in New Zealand, it's easier and cheaper for you or I to legally purchase a 12-gauge, a hunting rifle or an E-cat semiauto than it is for a crim to get hold of the same.
And speaking as someone who's just started his B-cat qualification process (Sportways in Mt Eden have a SIG P226 on ice for me) I can tell you that buying pistols is an order of magnitude easier for good guys than it is for crims.
I don't really see a problem that needs fixing, to be honest. The balance is pretty good.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
Forum whore
you really can't smell irony can you?
Nana
Okay I'll say it
Think of the criminals!
Think of their work safety, and the impact arming shopkeepers will have on their income protection insurance.......
OSH will pitch a fit if we ever arm our shopkeepers and put criminals at risk......
Forum whore
QUOTE FISH : But I bet there weren't any pistols, were there? Go find some stats on the percentage of firearms injuries and homicides in the USA caused by handguns vis-a-vis shoulder weapons. Battle rifles and machine guns have limited application to an urban criminal's needs.
You need to get out more Fish, I promise you that I could buy a handgun from a pub in Levin within 24 hours of looking. And the stats on USA injuries from handguns show that most states in the US that have no gun control are safer than Manchester England where they are quite keen on gun control.
QUOTE FISH : Tut tut, you and your fallacious gun-nut appeals to emotion... at least so far you've avoided Thinking of the Children or accusing anyone of National Socialist tendencies.
You are the one using emotion, I always quote facts.
QUOTE FISH : Right now, in New Zealand, it's easier and cheaper for you or I to legally purchase a 12-gauge, a hunting rifle or an E-cat semiauto than it is for a crim to get hold of the same.
No, you are completely incorrect. Criminals have unrestricted access to firearms. The only issue for them is the price, they will pay top dollar, but given they are paying in tax free P dollars, they have easier access than normal citizens.
You keep on repeating the mantra that "we dont want to be like America".
Well I do.
I want the right to defend myself and my family from criminals.
And I know that 25 states in the USA have no gun control at all. And 16 of those have 1/2 our murder rate and they all have lower crime rates.
David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.
Hardcore Biker
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3890428a11,00.html
So, any of you gonna be there?
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
Scooter boy
Nope. But I have donated Greg's Defense Trust Fund.
e mare libertas
Let's ask one of the resident coppers what they think on this one. I remain doubtful.
You're confusing correlation with causation again. Do you understand what I mean when I say that?
On what basis do you claim such familiarity with New Zealand's criminal underworld?
Well, fuck off back to septic country, then, old fruit. I believe it's already like America over there.
Hmm.
If you're going to make assertions about statistics, quote your sources.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
Tornado Alley
And still the media bend it their way...
"charged after he shot an intruder..."
Sheesh...:slap:
Hardcore Biker
What's wrong with that? He did shoot an intruder... and rightfully so too!And still the media bend it their way...
"charged after he shot an intruder..."
Sheesh...
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
Scotsman on a German
Well, they've got advertising space to sell buddy.And still the media bend it their way...
"charged after he shot an intruder..."
Sheesh...
Think of the children....of advertising execs...they deserve an education too.
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