Best 400

**gamgee** · 20th December 2006, 16:38

Originally Posted by R1madness

Faster and better handling than NC30 and more potential top speed.

Hahahaha tell 'm he's dream'n
once an nc30 is derestricted from 180km/h theres no way the fzr would beat it in top speed, the nc30 is easily the best handling 400 around, not sure about 0-100 acceleration, but I'm pretty sure the vfr has more power than any other 400cc

**Grantasaurus** · 20th December 2006, 16:50

I'd go with the VFR, if only because of the fact that they are so damn sexy with that single sided swingarm.

You'd be splitting hairs to find any real performance differences between the japper 400s..

How about a Ducati monster 400? Jap market only, made for their crazy legislation where you have to be able to pick your bike up if its over 400cc

**Shade** · 20th December 2006, 17:01

Originally Posted by gamgee

Hahahaha tell 'm he's dream'n
once an nc30 is derestricted from 180km/h theres no way the fzr would beat it in top speed, the nc30 is easily the best handling 400 around, not sure about 0-100 acceleration, but I'm pretty sure the vfr has more power than any other 400cc

Nah ZXR400's have more power I believe.

However, handling wise, VFR400 beats anything else hands down. I thought that was a well known fact?

Turns in effortlessly, holds its line well, and pops back up no worries.

ZXR's are slightly harder to get over, and heavier to pull back up.

FZR standard wouldnt have anything on either of the 2, however, has heaps of potential for mods / improvement.

Want bang for buck, VFR, then ZXR i reckon

**Karma** · 20th December 2006, 17:04

ZXR400! Bring it on!

**limbimtimwim** · 21st December 2006, 06:56

Originally Posted by gamgee

Hahahaha tell 'm he's dream'n
once an nc30 is derestricted from 180km/h theres no way the fzr would beat it in top speed, the nc30 is easily the best handling 400 around, not sure about 0-100 acceleration, but I'm pretty sure the vfr has more power than any other 400cc

Don't be so sure. Those, uncommmon, FZR SPs were a bit special. He didn't mention they also had slide carbs and an alloy subframe.

There is so little power difference between the different jappa 400s that it would all be down to rider skill and lack of mechanical sympathy.

**jeremysprite** · 21st December 2006, 09:29

VFR's 1/4 times aren't that good because of the tall 1st, so I'd assume their 0-100's aren't too great either, but you CAN reach 100 in 1st apparently, again, sympathy for motor.

Get a VFR, they're so much cooler than anything else. The other's are just bigger 250's.

Anyone want to attempt building a VFR250? I'll pay you a thousand bucks?
(for a completed bike, not an attempt...)

**mynameis** · 21st December 2006, 09:51

Originally Posted by RCTL

i have owned gsxr 400rr, cbr400rr,and vfr400rr, all very good bikes but the gsxr felt like a 250

How did it feel like a 250 and in what way mate? You mean grunt wise or was it light? Any other comments on GSXR 400? What year did you have? Common problems? I hear it's top end is the best out of all 400's?

mynameis

**sAsLEX** · 21st December 2006, 10:11

Originally Posted by mynameis

I hear it's top end is the best out of all 400's?

mynameis

And?

How often in reality do you use the top end on even a 400?

I think I have had the NC tapped out once, alongside an airport , and then a Hawk gets upset and pulls up out of the grass and goes over my head by inches....

But you can even be lazy on the V and leave it in one gear for tens of kilometers and still get on at a decent pace, rather than rowing through an inlines gears

**imdying** · 21st December 2006, 12:00

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

But you can even be lazy on the V and leave it in one gear for tens of kilometers and still get on at a decent pace, rather than rowing through an inlines gears

That is such bollocks, you must have a magically NC30 or something... NC30s need plenty of gear rowing, certainly bugger all less than an IL4 400.

**limbimtimwim** · 21st December 2006, 12:04

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

And?
How often in reality do you use the top end on even a 400?
I think I have had the NC tapped out once, alongside an airport , and then a Hawk gets upset and pulls up out of the grass and goes over my head by inches....

I was forever hitting the limiter on my RVF, till I put in the HRC ignition. I think that is because there is no limiter any more.

But you can even be lazy on the V and leave it in one gear for tens of kilometers and still get on at a decent pace, rather than rowing through an inlines gears

Only if you are passing stationary objects.

**kiwifruit** · 21st December 2006, 12:05

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

How often in reality do you use the top end on even a 400?

ummmmm, all the time?

**99TLS** · 21st December 2006, 12:10

Originally Posted by arj127

riding my VFR400, although it doesn't seem to have the power that my ZZR600 had..

thats because its a 400 ya knob

**imdying** · 21st December 2006, 12:10

Originally Posted by kiwifruit

ummmmm, all the time?

Pretty much... that's the major draw card (imho) of (say) an RVF400 over a late GSXR750. Revving it out is the best part of owning a 400!

**Karma** · 21st December 2006, 12:10

Originally Posted by kiwifruit

ummmmm, all the time?

I've done it a few times, mostly coro loops or the back stright on puke or taupo, it ain't hard to hit 190kph on those, even with my fat ass on the back.