Best 400

[Coyote]

Mate... I'd very strongly advise against an R1 stright off a 250, 400s might be a little too soft, but see how it goes eh.

I've done dumber things, like learn to ride on a '95 KX80

400s keep their value so it might not be such a bad idea to get one first. Plus they sound cool and theres trick TYGA stuff available. And I'm still interested in Motards which is another story

[Karma]

Yeh the value thing is ok... the only thing that can be a pain sometimes is that they get used for the track and in F3 so parts can sometimes be scarce. Try ringing a breakers and asking if they've got a ZXR400 at all

"ZXR400??? I've not seen one of those for years!" As soon as they come in it's like vultures picking bits they want, unless someone comes in and takes the whole thing

[Hoon]

So the 400s aren't that much faster than the 250s?

I got to just under 200 on my old CBR (according to the speedo)

No a healthy stock 400 (ZXR/VFR/FZR) will do 220-235kph, roughly 60-65hp. However most 15 yo bikes are far from the condition they were when they rolled off the showroom floor so 200kph isn't suprising - prob only putting out about 50-55hp now compared to 65hp when new.

[Coyote]

No a healthy stock 400 (ZXR/VFR/FZR) will do 220-235kph, roughly 60-65hp. However most 15 yo bikes are far from the condition they were when they rolled off the showroom floor so 200kph isn't suprising - prob only putting out about 50-55hp now compared to 65hp when new.

Guess restoring them would be costly?

I'd be most interested in a VFR cause they sound awesome, only they don't have the pillion seat/glove compartment that the CBR has. Not sure what the ZXR has

[Karma]

Not sure what the ZXR has

ZXR under the rear pillion has literally place for the small toolkit and a disc lock, that's it.

In terms of restoring them, shouldn't be too bad same as any other bikes really.

[mynameis]

And?


How often in reality do you use the top end on even a 400?

I think I have had the NC tapped out once, alongside an airport , and then a Hawk gets upset and pulls up out of the grass and goes over my head by inches....

But you can even be lazy on the V and leave it in one gear for tens of kilometers and still get on at a decent pace, rather than rowing through an inlines gears

And what makes you assume like a complete ass that I am talking about reality and practicality, when I've just given a general statement? Where did I state what the purpose was .. racing/commuting?

And I was expecting a reply from someone I addressed it to and who has owned the bike not other koons sticking their nose in and talking shit which doesn't relate to what I've asked and people who haven't owned a GSXR 400!

mynameis

[mynameis]

No a healthy stock 400 (ZXR/VFR/FZR) will do 220-235kph, roughly 60-65hp. However most 15 yo bikes are far from the condition they were when they rolled off the showroom floor so 200kph isn't suprising - prob only putting out about 50-55hp now compared to 65hp when new.

Talking to experienced people (bike shop owners, machenics for more than ten years) most 400's they have dynoed came out between 45-50 hp's and most ZXR CBR 250's they have dynoed between 33-38 hp.

Mind you there are only a few shops who have dyno machines lol..Interesting aye, I reckon even back then when those bikes were a year old they would have dynoed at like 55-60 hp's and not close to 65 hp.

mynameis

[sAsLEX]

Guess restoring them would be costly?

I'd be most interested in a VFR cause they sound awesome, only they don't have the pillion seat/glove compartment that the CBR has. Not sure what the ZXR has

Yes a NC30 does have a bit under the pillion seat.

And above meh.

[sAsLEX]

Talking to experienced people (bike shop owners, machenics for more than ten years) most 400's they have dynoed came out between 45-50 hp's and most ZXR CBR 250's they have dynoed between 33-38 hp.

Now your talking HP at the wheel which is a completely different kettle of fish but I wont say anything since I don't know anything.

[Coyote]

Yes a NC30 does have a bit under the pillion seat.

Most VFRs I have seen are single seaters, and the TYGA fairing kit is a single seater. I was thinking about changing the subframe to a CBRs cause TYGAs fairing kit for them keeps the pillion seat

[sAsLEX]

Most VFRs I have seen are single seaters, and the TYGA fairing kit is a single seater. I was thinking about changing the subframe to a CBRs cause TYGAs fairing kit for them keeps the pillion seat

VFRs come with a pillion seat, most you have seen have aftermarket glass on them at a guess.

[Tim 39]

No a healthy stock 400 (ZXR/VFR/FZR) will do 220-235kph, roughly 60-65hp. However most 15 yo bikes are far from the condition they were when they rolled off the showroom floor so 200kph isn't suprising - prob only putting out about 50-55hp now compared to 65hp when new.

gawd I'd pay to see a 60-65 horse 400 do 220-235, I passed a fully worked ZXR400 (race pistons, cams etc etc etc) on my RS125, and he was fully tapped out (end of straight at ruapuna) I was only doing 198, and I passed him, so at most it couldve only done like 205-210 maybe, it it had an endless straight, it depends though, speedos over read (mines an accurate one, because 125's don't have them)

[Masterchop]

I owned a ZXR 400 as a race bike for about 10 years,it had 67hp as a stock bike and 76hp at the rear wheel when finished as a race bike.
TOP SPEED on the race track depends on the gearing you are running so yes the 125 may get a better top end if they are geared wrong for the track.

A ZXR400 SP comes out of the factory as a very capable bike with lots of good stuff, -adustable ride height
adjustable suspension
adjustable cam gears
17 inch wheels front and rear
flat slide carbs
alloy subframe
great brakes
That is a very good bike to work with as a base for a race bike,thats why there were so many being raced in F3 during the 90's and so many at the front of the pack.
It is also a a great road bike in base trim. I never took much notice of many of the other 400's cause the ZXR was so good.
I guess it depends what you want to use it for aye.

[scracha]

gawd I'd pay to see a 60-65 horse 400 do 220-235, I passed a fully worked ZXR400 (race pistons, cams etc etc etc) on my RS125, and he was fully tapped out (end of straight at ruapuna) I was only doing 198, and I passed him, so at most it couldve only done like 205-210 maybe, it it had an endless straight, it depends though, speedos over read (mines an accurate one, because 125's don't have them)

Sounds like gearing. After fitting new valves (a long story involving me removing 8 bent inlet valves) and rings my FZ400 managed about 136mph ish (indicated 147 but confirmed by matey in Vauxhall Calibra turbo) WITH A PILLION. So that's roughly 220k's. Funnily enough it didn't go much faster sans pillion.

Gawd I miss the M9 motorway....no cops whatsoever.

[Mr. Peanut]

ummmmm, all the time?

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