Manfeild free day = poo > sewer

[RantyDave]

i did use to find that bikers with more straight line speed would 'block' the inside line, either by intent or inexperience which stopped people with more skill in the corners getting a clean pass.

I plead guilty by reason of inexperience. By the time it became apparent exactly how crowded the track was; the fecking state of the track itself and how tightly knotted it could get, any memories of the briefing had faded and were replaced by a survival instinct.

However, in my defence I got passed on the inside myself more than once. FFS I got passed by a nutjob on a dirt bike once ... pretty low moment that was. And, yes, having heaps of straight line speed made me tend to drag race the straights and Nana the corners but ... at least I realise, right?

Hey, I have to start somewhere.

Dave

[boomer]

If there were any passing manouvres going on that people were concerned about, did ANY OF YOU bother to tell the organisers? They have a hard enough job keeping track of all of you during the day without standing on every corner watching to make sure people obey the rules.

I've been a member of this club since 1999 and EVERYONE gets told the rules at the riders' briefing. If complaints ARE passed on to the organisers, they ARE acted on and anyone they deem to be riding in an unsafe manner is asked to leave - and trust me, it DOES happen.

I find it hard to believe that you were actually passed in an unsafe manner on the inside during the slow laps, in fact I am more of the opinion that you were slow going into a corner and someone got there before you. Would you rather they ran up your arse? I've been out in the slow laps myself and I have been passed on both the left and the right. You may have been in the wrong position - too far to the left or right for a particular corner - and someone who was riding a bit faster than you had to alter their position to ride through that corner. There is no rule against overtaking in any of the laps - you are just not allowed to overtake the leader.

If you believe you have a valid complaint, pass it on to the club president. But I would refrain from making smart comments about the guy who crashed as he happens to be one of our members.

'Cos he's a member means he's exempt?

Wrong position??? there is no fukin wrong position on a track, well maybe the ones Cowpoos takes when he goes cross country, but any lines a good line.. almost.

you my friend are an ass.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I plead guilty by reason of inexperience. By the time it became apparent exactly how crowded the track was; the fecking state of the track itself and how tightly knotted it could get, any memories of the briefing had faded and were replaced by a survival instinct.


Hey, I have to start somewhere.

Dave

Way to go Dave!.....I can still remember how 'knotted' my stomach was on my first foray onto a race track.....

That Speed Four of your's must be a real hoot to ride round Manfeild.

[Crasherfromwayback]

you my friend are an ass.

That's a bit rough mate!

I'm sure you'll find 'Beemer' is/was trying to help!

And people in the organising clubs are unsung heros....it's no easy job mate.....

[boomer]

That's a bit rough mate!

I'm sure you'll find 'Beemer' is/was trying to help!

And people in the organising clubs are unsung heros....it's no easy job mate.....

no doubt they do a great job , however i thought i was the master of 'obnoxious' , this bloke just put me to shame.

...I find it hard to believe that you were actually passed in an unsafe manner...
...Would you rather they ran up your arse?
...You may have been in the wrong position..
..But I would refrain from making smart comments about the guy who crashed as he happens to be one of our members.

[Crasherfromwayback]

no doubt they do a great job , however i thought i was the master of 'obnoxious' , this bloke just put me to shame.

Indeed they do....and often for no more than the love of motorcycles.

can't agree with you on that bit though.....as for starters...that 'bloke' is a woman. And a well meaning one too.....

[boomer]

Indeed they do....and often for no more than the love of motorcycles.

can't agree with you on that bit though.....as for starters...that 'bloke' is a woman. And a well meaning one too.....

In that case, she's a horses ass

[RantyDave]

That Speed Four of your's must be a real hoot to ride round Manfeild.

Ahhh, we're getting there. I'm too slow into corners, far too slow round them and seem to exit well provided I've gone round in the right gear. The exit from turn six (six? right hander at the far side of the field) was absolutely glorious though.

Roll on the 4th March.

Dave

[Beemer]

'Cos he's a member means he's exempt?

Wrong position??? there is no fukin wrong position on a track, well maybe the ones Cowpoos takes when he goes cross country, but any lines a good line.. almost.

you my friend are an ass.

Excuse me, but it seems I am not the only one who very much doubts the accuracy of Sallo's recollection of events, and no matter what, making smart arsed comments about people who crash, no matter who they are, is pathetic.

Perhaps Sallo (is it missing the 'w'?), seeing as she apparently lives in Levin, would like to join the CDMTCI and put in the hard yards required to run an event like this. Or perhaps she would rather come here and whinge rather than taking her concerns up with the organisers, ON THE DAY. It's a bit pointless coming on a forum like this, days after the event, and moaning that someone did something wrong. If she had approached any of the club members ON THE DAY and raised her concerns, they could have been addressed.

And, this is MY personal opinion only, and not that of the club, but I think she's full of shit.

[boomer]

You're a fiesty wee one, i'd hazard a guess at you being germanian by descent. cheers for the red rep and comment wanna buy my xbox360.. cheap??

[Beemer]

You're a fiesty wee one, i'd hazard a guess at you being germanian by descent. cheers for the red rep and comment wanna buy my xbox360.. cheap??

Nope, not Germanian, Welsh actually. But whatever my background, I get extremely pissed off at people criticising our club when it takes a shit load of work to put together one of these days, for YOUR enjoyment. No one is perfect and we can't be expected to prevent every person from doing a dodgy manouevre - but if we are informed about it ON THE DAY, you can bet your arse we will take it seriously and follow it up.

If Sallo IS telling the truth, then maybe whoever allegedly passed her on the inside did it to someone else. If all these people had mentioned it, this person could have been spoken to - see where I'm going with this? We can't act if we are unaware there is a problem.

And if said Repsol rider was the one she is complaining about, trust me, member or not, he would have been spoken to. Whatever caused him to crash, sniggering about his misfortune, especially on a forum like this, is not appreciated and I am sure if any of you knew him personally you would be the first to stick up for him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ahhh, we're getting there. I'm too slow into corners, far too slow round them and seem to exit well provided I've gone round in the right gear. The exit from turn six (six? right hander at the far side of the field) was absolutely glorious though.

Roll on the 4th March.

Dave

Well the fact that you know where you're going wrong means there's every hope of getting it right soon mate!

Next time you're in the shop....come and see me....I'll draw you a wee map of where you wanna be-when on the track....

[justsomeguy]

What a bunch of whining babies, like Beemer said (well said lady) - did anyone actually report anything?? Do you all think organising trackdays (riders, marshalls, ambulances, insurance, props, etc) and securing the venue through advance payment are easily done?

Or is this the usual current KB lets pick on someone sob session??

Yes, there are levels of passing and the slow group is for novices. There are even some riders there with learner licenses and mere months riding perhaps only commuting experience; usually passing is limited to the straights.

The medium group usually pass on the outside only, however the front of the group is a bit more aggressive.

The fast group - it's all fun and games and usually people only hurt themselves.

Now all this is old news.......despite what the rules say we all know what happens in the real world.....so why the debate??.......

It's also real funny how all the relative newbies here are making fun of the track veterans......

I'm not saying I'm a saint and I don't care about passing or being passed as long as I feel it is safe. Sometimes I get it wrong and anger others, having said that some of us don't go to track days for their social aspects - we go there to go push ourselves. Remember the waiver you sign when you get your sticker?? It's no coincidence you sign that piece of paper.

Try being passed mere inches on either side by racers (on a trackday at pretty much race pace) doing over 200kmph in the Jennian home sweeper while you're already on your limit close to 200kmph at your personal max lean angle. It's part of the fun and the rush of being out there.

Get used to it or go have a word with the person, he or she may not know how insecure you were with their behaviour. Don't moan like a donkey on heat on a forum populated by people interested in what seems less and less with bikes and more with being politically correct, conformist, whiners.

[Kendog]

I find it hard to believe that you were actually passed in an unsafe manner on the inside during the slow laps, in fact I am more of the opinion that you were slow going into a corner and someone got there before you.

How do you know????

There is no rule against overtaking in any of the laps - you are just not allowed to overtake the leader.

Bullshit, the rules were stated at the beginning of the day, that is the point.
Where you even at the track day?

Excuse me, but it seems I am not the only one who very much doubts the accuracy of Sallo's recollection of events

It is her recollection none the less. I know of two others that had similar experiences, one being me with someone almost hitting me as my line was about to hit the apex (at least the apex I had planned) of the last turn onto pit straight. He had dived right down the inside in my blind spot.

would like to join the CDMTCI and put in the hard yards required to run an event like this.

I don't think this post in any way is aimed at the organisers who did do a fantastic job, often thankless but very much appreciated.

It's a bit pointless coming on a forum like this, days after the event, and moaning that someone did something wrong.

I agree with a lot of comments about making concerns known on the day. But like it or not this forum is another means of expressing any concerns which is not pointless.
The organisers read this stuff (I hope) and so too a lot of other riders who may be thinking about attending a track day. The more information out there the better.

[Trudes]

I would just like to say that I personally am not intentionally having a whine, just stating what happened, and I'm not usually one to go running off to the teacher every time someone pulls my pigtails.
If I had reported every person who undertook me on Saturday, I'm pretty sure I would have been on the track with three other people (obviously the ones that heard the rules) (actually, that would have been quite nice, if a bit boring).
Honestly I couldn't tell you who passed me how, although I do remember some of the more considerate ones, as I didn't give enough of a shit to think 'oh that asshole on that ..... just passed me again'.
We were also told that it is the overtaker's responsibility to overtake carefully and safely, not the overtakee to change their lines or ride so people can pass them.

Anyway, this is getting boring, go do some work you useless bums!