The 800s are faster!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Pedrosa's high side at sepang was cause he cut the corner too much and his knee dug into the dirt off the side of the track which pitched the rear into the air and then threw him off.

No way mate.....you'll get torn off the bike before your knee in the dirt lifts the back (or front for that matter) wheel off the ground. They're not riding 125's...they weight 145kgs.

[JayRacer37]

No way mate.....you'll get torn off the bike before your knee in the dirt lifts the back (or front for that matter) wheel off the ground. They're not riding 125's...they weight 145kgs.

yea...but as we have already said, when your on the edge, it doesn't take much disturbance to fuck it all up for ya....and the ram into the back of th seat by ur arse and hip if you've dug ur knee in to the dirt to save a tuck...makes sence to me....thats def guna unhook the rear by huge load on it...?

[Crasherfromwayback]

yea...but as we have already said, when your on the edge, it doesn't take much disturbance to fuck it all up for ya....and the ram into the back of th seat by ur arse and hip if you've dug ur knee in to the dirt to save a tuck...makes sence to me....thats def guna unhook the rear by huge load on it...?

You'll be able to find it on Motogp.com......I'll have a look shortly...they had pretty good coverage of it all

[TonyB]

That's kind of a weird synopsis.

Whats your info source, TonyB?.....

Sigh.
It's not my synopsis. As I said, it's from the Feb 07 Edition of Two Wheels. However when I wrote it I wasn't feeling pedantic enough to go find the article. Now I am. So this time I went and got it. It's the KASH column (Kevin Ash?) it's on page 38. According to him, it is "well-documented" that Honda had pushed for 800cc bikes, "rather than than the historic and more obvious 750cc". Read the article, it's an interesting theory.

In all due respect vifferman, the VF750?? it nearly destroyed Honda's reputation! Fortunately the VFR750 and 800 were great bikes and sorted that one out. I see you both own one....And the RC45? To quote Aaron slight

My first ride on the new RC45 V4 made me wish I hadn't. It was so slow......But mighty Honda had produced a "slow piece of shit" to quote my team mate (Doug Polen). Judging from the first tests of the RC45, Honda must have grossly underestimated the competition

According to KASH, they've done it again.

I reckon though that if a 800 was racing against the 990, the 990 is more likely to win, even if the 800 has a quicker lap time. I'm picking the 990 would still be faster in a straight line and would hold the 800 up in the corners, any advantage that the 800 may hold in higher cornering speed would be negated by the 990 being in its way.

With you on that one.

[JayRacer37]

You'll be able to find it on Motogp.com......I'll have a look shortly...they had pretty good coverage of it all

that would be great, def wana look at this now..i'll eat my word IF it is a power on high-side...

[Crasherfromwayback]

that would be great, def wana look at this now..i'll eat my word IF it is a power on high-side...

words are easy to eat.....it's that gloopy smelly stuff that takes an effort!

[gav]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...7&d=1105244397
So whats up with Hayden down in 14th? Has he got the job of testing the 2008 model or something like last year?

[k14]

No way mate.....you'll get torn off the bike before your knee in the dirt lifts the back (or front for that matter) wheel off the ground. They're not riding 125's...they weight 145kgs.

I saw the onboard footage and thats exactly what it looked like. I think in the ensuing throw his leg was also smashed by the footpeg. He main problem was his knee though which took virtually all the impact and wasn't very good for wear.

[denill]

Yeah they are faster

Read: Chris Vermeulen continued with his disciplined test routine at Qatar as he set about getting the best from the GSV-R800 at this desert track. He constantly improved on his times over the three days. His best time of 1’57.365, set on race tyres, was almost a second and a half quicker than his best race lap at last year’s Qatar Grand Prix aboard the 990cc machine.

Vermeulen was unable to test qualifying tyres today but would almost certainly have been higher up the timesheets if he had. Both he and his team believe there is a lot more to come from the new 800 and will be looking to further enhance the development of the bike during next week’s test.

[denill]

And on Hopkins:

John Hopkins set the pace early on during the concluding day of the Official MotoGP Test in Qatar, but a heavy crash just before lunch curtailed his involvement and saw him taken to hospital for x-rays.
Hopkins had – up until his accident - clocked the day’s fastest time of 1’55.825 testing new Bridgestone qualifying tyres. Following his crash, he was taken to the Doha hospital where his injuries have been assessed. He has suspected fractures in his right hand and foot, but the team are hopeful that he will be able to attend next week’s test in Spain.

[Verity]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...7&d=1105244397
So whats up with Hayden down in 14th? Has he got the job of testing the 2008 model or something like last year?

From what I've read, he is having trouble getting behind the smaller fairing on the 800, so is causing quite a bit of drag. He is also having to work to change his riding style from the "point and squirt" to more of a 250cc style carrying more corner speed due to the changes in the 800.
And you're probably right, he's more than likely doing the majority of the development work like last year cos Gibbernau jnr.... i mean Deposer... sorry, Pedrosa, appears to be Honda's little golden boy.

[denill]

So whats up with Hayden down in 14th? Has he got the job of testing the 2008 model or something like last year?

Quote: Nicky Hayden was nearly two seconds off Pedrosa's best after suffering through two crashes yesterday.

[denill]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...7&d=1105244397

Now that is some shot..................

Certainly not a pic that I would ever want to feature in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sAsLEX]

I gather the way to go fast on a 990 (unless it was the underpowered Suzuki) was 'point and squirt'......not really highside material. But when you're on the edge of the tyre and cornering at insane speeds....and trying to get the good 'drive' on.....a-la the 800's......well....lets see!

Yeah the latest BIKE , the one with the 40 page bit on the 1098, is talking about the return of the highside as corner speeds go up with them braking later and later

yeap, so it wasn't somthing the Electronic's should/could have saved?

If I was designing his electronics I would rig a spare sparkplug to his seat so those watching on the side line could zap him every time he went to do something stupid like undertake Nicky.......

[Crasherfromwayback]

If I was designing his electronics I would rig a spare sparkplug to his seat so those watching on the side line could zap him every time he went to do something stupid like undertake Nicky.......

I think having it connected directly to his ball bag would be better!