Have you ever been so furious from car stupidity that you've actually hit the car?

[imdying]

I brought a matt black Craft RX6 with a black visor. I have less trouble now with discourteous drives. I recommend the Darth Vader look, appears to make the cagers think twice about messing with you.

[Guitana]

Katwyn/MyGSFX, I'm with you girls. Imagine if a car driver does the same to us, when you make a mistake (yes a mistake, not everybody is a serial idiot), rip your mirror or open the door, how would you feel.

I wonder how many KB-ers, after reading this thread, think it's justified to "have a go" the next time they're on the road.

Car drivers do it to us every day have'nt you been seeing the amount of threads for near misses and accidents they dont give a fuck why should we!
If we go out on the road with a softie attitude we'll get taken out we must be aggressive and let these people know it's not okay to uturn in front of us it's not okay to run us off the road because they were too lazy to look and were not going to be bullied on the road!!!!

Cue the national anthem and hands over your hearts!!!

[Disco Dan]

Haven't had the misfortune of something like that happening to me so far. However I did give a car a bloody good wollop when it didn't stop for me on a pedestrian crossing when I was already halfway across.

Wheres Penfold?

errrr, your not meant to use crossings on a bike ay? ...they are for pedestrians

[The Pastor]

I brought a matt black Craft RX6 with a black visor. I have less trouble now with discourteous drives. I recommend the Darth Vader look, appears to make the cagers think twice about messing with you.

How much are those helmets?


The thing I want to know about doing damage to a car when angry at their actions, eg kicking door/mirror/window is won't they grab your rego call the cops and you get done for dangerous driving (max pen jail time min 6 months disqual) ?

[Ixion]

Katwyn/MyGSFX, I'm with you girls. Imagine if a car driver does the same to us, when you make a mistake (yes a mistake, not everybody is a serial idiot), rip your mirror or open the door, how would you feel.

I wonder how many KB-ers, after reading this thread, think it's justified to "have a go" the next time they're on the road.

Yes, but it is not the genuine "oops, mistake" happenings that are the issue.

That will happen, and, speaking for myself, if someone makes a mistake and admits it, then it doesn't make me angry.

What DOES make me angry are the deliberate "You are only a motorcycle, so I am going to do xxxx and I don't really give a stuff if I kill you" people. And there's a LOT of them around.

Or the ones who, deliberately or otherwise, do some idiotic illegal shit that risks my safety, and then either , think it's a huge joke and just giggle about it (Asians are REALLY bad at that); or get aggro and aggressive.

Or the grossly careless, don't give a stuff who they kill people. Steaming round a blind bend on the wrong side of the road is NOT a mistake.

*Those* people make me angry, and any punishment they get is well deserved.

I have gotten timid and gentle in old age though. I no longer carry my kickarse huge safety chain slung over my shoulders. Oddly, back when I did, I didn't use to get as angry. 'Twas almost clinical - "Oh, right, y' didn't see me. And I should go get fucked. Yeah well, that happens. Like now , f'instance, here I am getting out my chain to secure my bike - and oh look, it's smashed your headlamp. Sorry, didn't see it, mate. Bye "

[Ixion]

If all else fails, 'try' & get their rego plate & place a complaint with the Police & let them deal with the ignorant tosser!!

Unfortunately, reality is that a complaint to the police will seldom achieve much, and if the complainant is a motorcyclist, will definately not achieve anything. The police will never action a complaint from a biker. Never have, never will.

I do use the *555 or webform sometimes, especially with old doddery drivers , whose real problem is that they are just past it. I figure that if dodderer gets a few finger wagging letters, maybe Mrs Dodderer will step in and suggest that maybe he should let her drive (of course, she may be as bad or worse).

One point, if you *do* decide to bother with *555 or the webpage, do NOT put in your own rego number, cos if you do the cops will know you were on a bike, and the complaint will go straight into the waste paper basket.

[Juud]

Ixion, I understand where your coming from, my partner is much like that, but it worries me that one day he or any of you will meet the wrong guy and regret the aggressive action taken.

Now, if you don't mind, I'll just stick to some egg slinging..

[surfer]

Guy hit me while I was riding my push-bike recently.

He just went straight through the give way. I rolled onto his bonnet, got up and proceeded to punch the bonnet a couple of times.

Cop showed up and said that he was in the wrong for not giving way ($150 fine), but I was much more in the wrong for punching his bonnet (2 years jail). Which seemed a bit like rough justice to me. The guy that failed to give way just about killed me, and all I did was punch a piece of mild steel plate to make a bit of noise and wake him up a bit.

In the end he let us both off with a warning, but it's made me think twice about punching a car again.

Bloody glad he wasn't in an SUV. Cars are much more forgiving to cyclists.

Man that sounds harsh, reckon the driver got away on the light side here.

[surfer]

Yeah I reckon a national campiagn amied at awareness of bikers and better driving skills by car owners is looong overdue.

[Squeak the Rat]

One point, if you *do* decide to bother with *555 or the webpage, do NOT put in your own rego number, cos if you do the cops will know you were on a bike, and the complaint will go straight into the waste paper basket.

I've done the web thing twice with the bike rego and got a confirmation letter each time. I thought about faking the reg, but wouldn't be surprised if they cross check this with the supplied name and address and discard it if it doesn't match.

I used the bike reg after some old tart in a merc cut me off without looking when i was in the car. I don't know what the letter looks like to the offender, but I'm hoping it mentions bike and they think "bike? what bike" and get a bit of a shock.....

[MyGSXF:Me]

if the complainant is a motorcyclist, will definately not achieve anything. The police will never action a complaint from a biker. Never have, never will.

One point, if you *do* decide to bother with *555 or the webpage, do NOT put in your own rego number, cos if you do the cops will know you were on a bike, and the complaint will go straight into the waste paper basket.

Hate to burst ya bubble of self assertion there Ixion.. but that is not true. I have made a complaint to the Police, about a car driver in regards to their dangerous driving, whilst I was riding my bike, & it was dealt with. The driver was visited & given a stern warning. I just went in & stated the facts & gave accurate details.. I did not go in with an angry or aggressive attitude.. (which could have instantly put me on the back foot if I had, & the outcome may have been different!!)

I guess it's all in the way in which we conduct ourselves.. as to the outcome.

[Horney1]

I've gotta dissassemble my computer for a move in a minute so please excuse me if I've butted in half way through a line of conversation...

I've also had a few incidents. I've been provoked without retaliation too many times to mention but one incident of solid sidekicking a van cost me close to $2000 in lawyers fees and compensation in the early nineties. From a turning lane to my left he unnecessarily drove within millimeters of my leg while I was waiting in the middle of the road to cross two lanes. He had plenty of distance to stop but he was just being a prick. Of course it pissed me off no end and after HAVING TO blast across the road (with his van blocking view of traffic!!) I spun around and kicked the sh*t out of his van. Unfortunately, I had an easily memorable numberplate - DUH!

Another one was a "Once We Were Worriers" '72 Falcon that pulled right on me as I was passing him (not slowly, not quickly). He only got a finger but for him that was more than enough provokation to try and runme down - I KID YOU NOT - FULL ON with smoking up tyres and the whole works. Unfortunately I was still trying to get to the same wholesaler so I looped around the area a bit too much and ended up meeting him at an intersection where deciding not to go past him because I thought he'd ram me I stomped on the picks, dumped the front and slid past him instead. The cop said he was on his way to an anger management course! Of course! Takes all sorts... BRING ON THE HEAD MOUNTED LASERS!!

I've tried to restrain myself a bit since then. I've also been a bit more careful about ensuring the straight front end setup on my bike now to!

[avgas]

I brought a matt black Craft RX6 with a black visor. I have less trouble now with discourteous drives. I recommend the Darth Vader look, appears to make the cagers think twice about messing with you.

Hehe - i can second that. I sprayed my Shoei Matt Black many years ago. Not even the p dealing neighbors wanted to fuck with me. Really suited the GB with no muffler as well.

[KATWYN]

Car drivers do it to us every day have'nt you been seeing the amount of threads for near misses and accidents they dont give a fuck why should we!
If we go out on the road with a softie attitude we'll get taken out we must be aggressive and let these people know it's not okay to uturn in front of us it's not okay to run us off the road because they were too lazy to look and were not going to be bullied on the road!!!!

Cue the national anthem and hands over your hearts!!!

tch tch tch *shakes head*

Yea that'll work........

[Steam]

Well I got to my anger and stress management meeting, and the DAMN building was EMPTY and there was NOBODY there, and I am VERY ANGRY.
But i did not pursue any cars this evening, and I satisfied my urge to destroy by watching World's Wildest Police Videos, which is on every Thursday, Prime, 7.30pm.