Permanent weight loss...advice from ladies!

[Deviant Esq]

Nice post Jen, musta been about 10 sec after mine I'd bling you, but I've gotta spread it around some more, apparantly.

Might look into that Green Prescription thing when I get back to NZ, seems like a good idea.

Good thread.

[sunhuntin]

checking out sparc now. yeh...i know breakkys the most important meal of the day. i noticed a huge difference when i did miss it...nearly falling asleep before work etc.

tony...buddy of mine is the same as you. finds it impossible to gain muscle weight. the weights at the gym were his best friends. lol. time before last when i saw him, his arms were huge. seen him last week, and they are as soft as mine again. lol. cant i like beef balls though.

the problem other than health and fitness is id like to get into my partners jeans again

[Ixion]

I'm a right skinny sod, always have been, always will be. It doesn't matter what I try I can't gain weight... I've done the gym and heavy weight sets, force fed myself all the right things... no impact whatsoever. Actually that's not entirely true, I did manage to gain about 5 kgs over the course of 5 months... then I got a cold, and lost it all again in the space of a week

I've given up with it, and have come to terms with the fact that I'm always going to be this way.

Sigh. Don't count on it. My first half century, I was JUST like that. Skinny as, and would eat like a horse, NEVER put on weight. Then, bang, there was a coup d'etat in Metabolialand and the weight started going on. Ever since it's been a constant task to hold it at bay.

Trouble with diets is that they expect you to stop eating. I LIKE eating. And drinking. It's a pain.

[Ixion]

Well, I looked at that Green Prescription thing. Not for me. It talks about patients, sets you up as being a patient. I don't like doctors don't trust them, and I'm not a "patient". I'm lazy , lacking in will power and fat. Not sick.

[MyGSXF:Me]

Well, I looked at that Green Prescription thing. Not for me. It talks about patients, sets you up as being a patient. I don't like doctors don't trust them, and I'm not a "patient". I'm lazy , lacking in will power and fat. Not sick.

from what I've seen of it.. you don't have to see the Doctor.. in Nelson.. the green script goes to "Sport Tasman" & you get the support person from there. (Maybe if you were very overweight.. it may be done through the Doctor though.. to monitor things.. )

Ya can't knock something unless ya are willing to try it first, to see!!

[ravenfeeder]

Most important thing is to take measurements and not rely on the scales. As yo start exercising you build muscle which weighs more than fat so then logically the scales may not reflect a difference (then we all get downhearted and depressed about that) when in fact you have lost several centimetres and are loosing size but not necessarily weight. Does that make sense lol.
Is a tough call eh - as the thing is really, diets dont work - has to be a change in routines and the only way weight stays off is by exercies and eating healthy. Even then it sometimes doesnt work eh hehe.
Is hard knowing if its worth it or not but hey if it is going to make you feel better bout your self... thats gotta be a bonus.
Just take it easy on yourself and remember one step forward two steps back.
Good luck and is such a hard battle - feel like i have been fighting flab all my life and now at 40 i think fuck it, but the benefits of exercise and how you feel mentally and physically when doing it - regardless of your size is the key i reckon.
Take care mate and be easy on yourself

[ravenfeeder]

Ooopsie had a comp glitch

[ravenfeeder]

Ditto to above - posted 3 times.

[Edbear]

dont call it a diet it is a change of diet...
when i was a bit younger i had a share in a gym and in that time seen all I wish you all the best.
and remember only you can make it happen.
how bad do you want it ?
Focus.

Wot 'e said, and good on you! You'll have all our support!
I've been trying to lose weight and while I have had some success so far, it's harder than anything I've done before! That includes being addicted to prescription drugs and in a wheelchair!

As with most things, the answer is simple, but not neccessarily easy! Eat less and exercise more is plain and simple. There was a huge study publishes a while ago where most of the diets available were tested over a number of years with a large number of participants. Bottom line was pretty much even for all if they were followed, but the simple answer was in the control group which followed the eat less exercise more with no restrictions on what they ate. Still lost weight at about the same rate as everyone else, difference was it was easier to keep to than the diets which were more restrictive.

Get a check up from the Doc., too, as it will eliminate any medical reason for weight gain and will also encourage you.

Exercise is the best therapy for feeling down, too, especially bushwalking if there are any good ones in your area! Trust me on this!

[KATWYN]

it seems i get slimmer, but dont lose the fat. my legs are very powerful, but they stay flabby. same with my arms. i dont know why and dont know how to shift it. my gut and backside are the worst

6 little meals a day (every 3-4 hours). Protein,carb combined at every one (use your hand & fist as a measurer) and flaxseed oil at a couple of them, eliminate alcohol (that will get rid of tummy fat - especially on a women, cos thats straight where it goes), only have a Protein and vege meal at night - don't eat after 7- 7.30pm. and drink 1.5 -2 litres of water per day

For your carbs, chose low GI carbs -Kumara, oats, brown rice etc.
Protein - Chicken, fish, cottage cheese
Lotsa leavy vegetables, some fruit

Thats an idea of the nutritional eating plan bit.

Training well....to be brief. (and assuming you are healthy....have no medical problems etc) Do your cardio (on that trainer thingy) for at least
half an hour one day then the next day do about half an hour to 3/4 of an hour lifting weights then the day after that cardio again do this 6 days a week....concentrate on the form of the exercise not the size of the weight.
Slurp down whey protein drink 15 minutes - 1/2 and hour after you do weights

I know it may seem like a drag - but it WILL give you the results you want, ya just gotta put the work in. There is no quick fix - diets DO NOT work.

Within 3 months you will get smaller - but you will also lose that "skinny" fat
you were talking about (on your arms etc)

Those are the principles anyway

[Hitcher]

Amputation is pretty effective.

[_Gina_]

Amputation is pretty effective.

There's always one..........aye

[Lissa]

Well from experience Diets dont work.

I put on 25 kgs with my first child... I was FAT!!! Everything I did to try and get rid of it never worked. Was constantly on the scales, trying not to eat etc etc. Until I read a book, about a lady who went through the same thing. My metabolism had gone done, so eating less never helped.

All I can suggest is the following which worked for me:
1. Dont use scales.
2. Excercise.. even if its just walking
3. Dont eat carbohyrates after 5pm each night. (just like Kathwyn said)
4. Eat more healthy but don't go crazy, you can always treat yourself.

I lost all of the 25kgs... and put on hardly any with my third child. It wont happen overnight but it will happen.

[Pwalo]

Just another thing. It might pay to see if you are diabetic if you are reasonably over weight. You may need to change what and when you eat if so.

And don't listen to what works for men. We lose weight a lot easier than women (aint life fair).

[jrandom]

Exercise is mostly pretty fucking boring, but if you try and change your body composition by just starving yourself without any hard physical training, you'll end up as a pathetic, wheezy little weed.

Personally, I get over the exercise-boredom by focusing on the competitive aspects. If you know there's a big race coming up, you'll be wearing someone's sponsor jersey, people will be checking your time afterwards and not lending you a $2,000 wheelset again if you're too slow... it's amazing how that keeps you away from the chocolate cake and gets you out on the road on cold winter mornings.

Lifting's good, too. There's a fairly decent competitive powerlifting scene in NZ, and you're always remembering that if you blow out of your weight class, you won't have a snowball's chance in hell of placing at any meets.

For that matter, sex is a hell of a lot better when you're not fat...

Basically, if you're a natural fat-arse, you got to have a good reason to change your physical condition, and vanity on its own doesn't cut the mustard.

Dropping fat isn't 'difficult', it's a simple matter of calories in and calories out. Unfortunately you have to contend with hunger, boredom and tiredness to get the right values into the equation's variables.

Some basic diet tips that work for me are getting my carbs from high-fiber food (rolled oats, brown rice), not eating carbs late at night, and using a lot of caffeine. Drink whisky instead of beer, and remember that smoking a cigar without inhaling doesn't fuck your cardiovascular system up but is still an excellent substitute for dessert.