War?

[CM2005]

Anyone who wants to nuke israel gets 2 thumbs up in my book lol

hear hear!!!

[smoky]

Anyone who wants to nuke israel gets 2 thumbs up in my book lol

Down with Israel !!!
The only country that has democracy in an otherwise dictatorship ruined area of the world, the only country with a social welfare system that helps the disabled, elderly and generally accepts woman as equal. That is made up of all sorts of ethnicities and inhabits less than 2% of the Middle East. The only country that has thru good management created an economy and infrastructure that can feed it’s self.
As a apposed to supporting nations bent on its destruction, who can’t organise themselves to even treat each other with fairness, that suppress the rites of woman and believe in an underclass, that are ruled by religious dictators and Neolithic thinking governments. (that by the way hate our guts) – I wonder why?
I understand their frustration of being the victims, or losers all the time, but I just can’t get my head around why it’s trendy to bash Israel now days, is it because America support them?

[Lias]

I understand their frustration of being the victims, or losers all the time, but I just can’t get my head around why it’s trendy to bash Israel now days, is it because America support them?

A nation built on stolen land, that still demands sympathy and reperations for a myth that supposedly happened 60 years ago. A nation run by thieves, cowards and liars, that only continues to exist because America gives it billions of dollars a year in aid. A nation thats commited more atrocities than were ever supposedly commited against its founders. Israel is a nation of pure evil.. Who _wouldnt_ want to see them burn in the fires of nuclear oblivion?

[smoky]

A nation built on stolen land, that still demands sympathy and reperations for a myth that supposedly happened 60 years ago. A nation run by thieves, cowards and liars, that only continues to exist because America gives it billions of dollars a year in aid. A nation thats commited more atrocities than were ever supposedly commited against its founders. Israel is a nation of pure evil.. Who _wouldnt_ want to see them burn in the fires of nuclear oblivion?

I guess we're going to be miles apart on this one then, sorry I can't agree - but then people have been arguing over it for while now.
I'm not much of a historian, I'm just going on what I've seen while travelling around.Every one has their own perception of what's going on.

I don't think I'd call any nation 'pure evil' or flippintly wish the cruel destruction of any people - "burning in the fire of nuclear oblivion" - seems a bit harsh. Wouldn't a flood be more gentle, self cleaning like a flush toilet as well.

[CM2005]

I guess we're going to be miles apart on this one then, sorry I can't agree - but then people have been arguing over it for while now.
I'm not much of a historian, I'm just going on what I've seen while travelling around.Every one has their own perception of what's going on.

I don't think I'd call any nation 'pure evil' or flippintly wish the cruel destruction of any people - "burning in the fire of nuclear oblivion" - seems a bit harsh. Wouldn't a flood be more gentle, self cleaning like a flush toilet as well.

Pure Evil:- Number palestinian civilians, using palestinian children as human shields, restricting entry through checkpoints to people in need of medical care, blahdy blah... the list goes on.

A flood of biblical proportions perhaps?... hahahaaaa!! Self cleaning? line 'em up, burn 'em down.

[smoky]

Pure Evil:- Number palestinian civilians, using palestinian children as human shields, restricting entry through checkpoints to people in need of medical care, blahdy blah... the list goes on.

Not sure which side your talking about - they both seem capable of perpertrating evil in the name of what ever cause they tote.

flood of biblical proportions perhaps?:

Kinda what I was hinting at

[YLWDUC]

Re-read the story and replace the words "captured" and "seized" with "arrested." Isn't that what we do when ships stray into our territorial waters?

Nope, we're not even allowed to talk sternly to vessels that enter our waters and steal our fish/deliver our drugs. The greens would have a field day if we acted the same way as the Pom-Iranians (isn't that a dog breed?)

[doc]

the Pom-Iranians (isn't that a dog breed?)

Very clever

[Manxman]

Thank gawd it was the "English Navy". I was worried some of my Celtic brethern may have been involved.

[Lias]

but then people have been arguing over it for while now.

Only a few thousands years :-P

[Hans]

There's a thin line between being an antisocial hippy basher, which is not that bad and being a redneck bogan'd nazi. Have you ever been to the Middle East, Lias? How many Arabs do you know? Would you know a Jew if you saw one without a Yarmulka? Now I am not the biggest fan of the Jews there's ever been. But they have my respect for what their contributions to science, the arts etc... Name what the A-rabs have given the world in the last thousand years.

[Ixion]

Name what the A-rabs have given the world in the last thousand years.

Algebra
Alchemy
the Alhambra
Zero
The Rubiyat of Omar Khaiyam
The Kitabal-Rujari of al-Idrisi
the Taj Mahal
Fathipur Shakri
Religious tolerance
Morroco leather
Damascus steel
the Kitabi of Abu Umar bin Bahr al-Jahiz

A very incomplete list, and not perhaps quite 1000 year specific, but just a few that spring immediately to mind.

[terbang]

I'm not a huge fan of the Isralis myself, they have always been involved in any sort of scrap that the world has, or has has. However I used to fly for Palestinians and having felt the heat of Israeli hostility, I guess my view would be a little one sided. The irony is that the Arabs and the Jews are basicly the same race of people separated by religion. Though I think the round trip the diaspora took sort of europeanised them a bit.
The Jewish state and its supported imposition on the middle east will continue to be a scource of anguish for the Arab people for a long time to come. Though the arabs, like others, do fight amongst themselves they tend to unite when it comes to Israel and the US or anyone who supports them.

[Hans]

Algebra - Much older.
Alchemy - Only the root of the name itself.
the Alhambra - Granted
Zero - Much older.
The Rubiyat of Omar Khaiyam - Is a book written by an Indian.
The Kitabal-Rujari of al-Idrisi
the Taj Mahal - Is in India.
Fathipur Shakri - Is in India
Religious tolerance - Tui ad?
Morroco leather - Please elaborate.
Damascus steel - Granted
the Kitabi of Abu Umar bin Bahr al-Jahiz- Born in 776 AD
A very incomplete list, and not perhaps quite 1000 year specific, but just a few that spring immediately to mind.

Of course I was talking about Arabs under Islam. Hence last 1200-1000 years when Islam gained any serious clout. But as you can see your arguments don't hold water. With respect.

[doc]

The irony is that the Arabs and the Jews are basicly the same race of people separated by religion.

Very very very loosely as I understand it. Ahebs wife couldn't have children, so he had a child to her maid servant. Then the wife fell pregnant and expelled the maidsevant and her child to the desert. This is where the Muslims came from. Ahebs family became the Jews . This is pretty loose and names have been changed to protect the innocent.