I wonder if half the people that condemn the cops on this thread/site probably wouldn't have before they signed up for this forum (apart from the obvious reason).
"If life gives you a shit sandwich..." someone please complete this expression
I say always chase.
It's the same as not negotiating with terrorists. The fuzz should chase 'em, ram 'em, kill 'em, and in future other people won't run.
Oh, that strategy didn't really work with the terrorists either...
Oh well, so much for that genius idea.
Determined to kill my bike before it kills me
Uhhh ... hello??
The "innocents" may have already been hurt ... but I suppose that's a bit of a stretch for you? What if these two had ..
- robbed someone
- bashed someone
- stolen that bike (and it happens to be yours)
The cops didn't decide to chase someone for no reason. Have you ever heard a pursuit and the justification and running commentary they have to make? Do you know how often hey want to abandon the chase but that would mean bad guys getting away and a victim left without a result?
Jeez this closed-mind stuff really gets my wick. If Blackbird says he's sounding more pissed than he is ... then take note that I am WAY more pissed than I sound
did no-one notice ?
"when what looks like a ZZR-250 2-up"
I've an open mind on people doing runners. But doing a runner with a pillion is another matter. It's not just your own life you're risking then.
Personally, if I was a cop and someone did a runner on me no way would I let them go. I'd pull out everything I had to catch and stop them. And then throw the book at them. Not just the book, the whole library, bookcases, bookends and all. Just cos I'm a bastard that way.
Originally Posted by skidmark
Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
The rider chose to run, the pilion was probably not in a position to influence the situation and possibly just hanging on for dear life.
The Police are required by law to chase aren't they?. Police policy is that if conditions in the pursuit are likely to put anyone at risk the chase should immediately end. This never seems to happen. I put it down to "Red Mist" syndrome, seems the Plod suffer from it too. Even if the Plod do give up the chase, the bugger isn't going to continue at 50km/hr and follow the Road Code all the way home is he?. Once it's instigated by the runner, it's "Game on".
Speeding, burglary, whatever the initial offence was, it suddenly becomes less important than the direct decision to evade police, civil disobedience.
If you let people run, people know they can, therefore do it more often. It's like opening a can of worms if the cops back down in that situation.
And it is ABSOLUTELY the riders fault if they get injured. Running = risking injury (or worse) to yourself (and others) attempting to shirk responsibility for your own god-damn actions.
Bang on. Bang bloody on.
To split or not to split, that is the question
Lets just pause for a min here and ask ...... would we like the cops to chase somelowlife asshole that was seen on a STOLEN bike ??????
Naaaa couldnt be , its just abiker being persecuted by the cops for riding a tiny bit fast aye !!!!
Yer your rite , let thebike get away no matter what he did so then the cops cant get into more political trouble and they we can have a situation where the good old public can beat up on them again.
![]()
No im a mechanic not a cop.
Cheers Paul.
The 2-up thing (dickhead on the front seat putting his pillion's life at risk) and the fact that Newlands Road can be quite slippery after a light drizzle was a concern to me. The cop was fair hoofing it too.
Where do you draw the line?
However, I guess I wasn't in the cop's situation and as Grub says, they (the motorcyclists) could be dodgy criminals.
"...you meet the weirdest people riding a Guzzi !!..."
Not quite true Maximus. The Comms Inspector, Senior or Sergeant are not in the car and are not running on adrenaline. THEY call the pursuit and THEY command a discontinue when people are at risk. The following is read to the pursuing officer ...
"If at any time, any person or property is at risk of damage or injury, you are to abandon the pursuit immediately! Do you understand!"
If there is no response within seconds ...
"You are required to acknowledge, do you understand?"
Yeh, I've listened to that dozens of times. The Comms operator spouts it off over & over verbatim, the Plod usually acknowledges this in the running commentary, blah blah blah.
In 10 years of listening to these things I've only heard of one get pulled by Comms, quite often the runner gets away but more often than not they get the buggers once they crash into a car/fence/bus-stop/house (or a combination of some/all).
Comms don't have control of a chase situation, they have the "ïndemnity disclaimer" that they rattle off but it's all up to the adrenalin charged expert in the Commodore at the end of the day.
If it were a zzr250 2 up in those conditions it should be an easy catch for the cop really.
Those who dont learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.
FairyNuff
Yeah cracker ehOriginally Posted by Maximusdemeritus
![]()
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Bookmarks