Two-stroke or 4?

[mark247]

A great bike to learn on would be a vt250 honda (4 stroke)or an rg150 suzuki (2stroke).
Both these are excellent and reliable and will go forever.

Are you sure a VT250 will go forever? I have been told by one wrecker, and two mechanics ( one which was a honda dealer ) that there cranks are made of chocolate. They all said that VT250's are known to bend/break cranks at low k's at a very unreasonable rate. I read one guy who was selling one that had done 70000km ( one of the lucky ones ) on trademe saying they are reliable but other than that all i have heard is bad news about them. Have you heard that there cranks are made of chocolate also or have i just encounter 3 guys who have had bad experiences with VT's?

[Chickadee]

Personally I love my two smoker, I only ride in weekends or when I can grab time so it suits me. If I was commuting on it I think the poor Crazyfrog wouldn't be happy.

If you're using it all the time and it will be your main mode of transportation, I reckon 4 stroke. But if you're looking for a smelly wee bundle of fun that's cheap - get an RG150 or KR150.

Ringa ding ding.

250cc for a learner (2-smoker) = whee how fast, ... holy shit - oh fuck ouch that really hurts falling off...

[Mr. Peanut]

250cc for a learner (2-smoker) = whee how fast, ... holy shit - oh fuck ouch that really hurts falling off...

More like, "hey lets pass this car, 3rd gear...... 4th... 5th... OH SHIT IM DOING 170!!! CORNER!!!! LOCKING UP EXTREMELY POWERFUL BRAKES!!!! FUCK BARRIER *smack* Whheeeeeeee..... *thud*.

Not that I would know