Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[Banditbandit]

100 pages ppff .. Associations is running 2786 pages .. and it's more amusing

[imdying]

There's only 38 pages to this thread... why you would use the standard post per page count is beyond me... much like Ed and comprehension.

[bogan]

There's only 38 pages to this thread... why you would use the standard post per page count is beyond me.

And how you can stomach more than 15 posts at a time from these arseholes is beyond me :bleh:

[Madness]

http://disidento.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/yes-minister/

Interesting reading for a Sunday arvo.

[scumdog]

http://disidento.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/yes-minister/

Interesting reading for a Sunday arvo.

ANOTHER cop caught selling 'P'?? - how many have been caught so far??:shifty:

And posssibly another letter by another embittered ex-cop??:rolleyes:

[Madness]

ANOTHER cop caught selling 'P'?? - how many have been caught so far??:shifty:

And posssibly another letter by another embittered ex-cop??:rolleyes:

And a confession no less Scummy... http://obrien.wordpress.com/confession/

Anything you want to share with us, get off your chest? :msn-wink:

[scumdog]

And a confession no less Scummy... http://obrien.wordpress.com/confession/

Anything you want to share with us, get off your chest? :msn-wink:

A lot has changed since 1974...and I wasn't in the job at that stage.

(Why did he chose to lie? - only he really knows..)

[Katman]

(Why did he chose to lie? - only he really knows..)

At a guess - to obtain a conviction.

I've also had first hand experience of a police officer lying under oath in order to have me found guilty.

[scumdog]

At a guess - to obtain a conviction.

I've also had first hand experience of a police officer lying under oath in order to have me found guilty.

Then it wouldn't have been me - I don' lie, don't need to.

If somebody gets convicted it will never be because I lied...getting a conviction ain't THAT important.

[Madness]

Why did he chose to lie? - only he really knows..


In reality, though, I answered to the gray men who trained me and on whose orders I obtained these convictions. They called it “doomsday” work and instructed me to take this dreadful secret to the grave.

He claims he was instructed to lie, perhaps even trained to lie, by "gray men" who I am going to assume were senior Police officials.

You're right, a lot has changed since 1974 but as the recent news from the Waitakere District suggests, corruption is still rife amongst New Zealand Police. This will come as no surprise to the many who have experienced first-hand the dishonesty and total disregard for the lives of the people the Police are supposed to protect displayed by the Police in attempt to secure a conviction. I experienced this myself just a couple of years ago - long after 1974.

Meanwhile, if you're an otherwise law abiding citizen who chooses to ingest a particular naturally-occuring plant as a way of relaxing in your own home behind closed doors you're a criminal who must be penalised.

Fair & just? :no:

[blue rider]

i believe that we need to give up the notion that the Police is there to Protect and Serve.
they neither protect nor do they serve



they are trained to upheld the law, wheter it makes sense or not
they are trained in crowd control, and will use tools considered weapons in the hand of civilians to keep you in line
they are trained to fill out forms which will cost the citizens many dollars called infringement notice.....after all the state needs cash
they are trained to intimidate


protect and serve is not on their mind nor is it their business.

[Laava]

Fair & just? :no:


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kPRBmWJZQis

[scumdog]

i believe that we need to give up the notion that the Police is there to Protect and Serve.
they neither protect nor do they serve



they are trained to upheld the law, wheter it makes sense or not
they are trained in crowd control, and will use tools considered weapons in the hand of civilians to keep you in line
they are trained to fill out forms which will cost the citizens many dollars called infringement notice.....after all the state needs cash
they are trained to intimidate


.

You say it like it's wrong...:whistle:

[Kickaha]

i believe that we need to give up the notion that the Police is there to Protect and Serve.
they neither protect nor do they serve
I could be wrong but I dont think the NZ police force uses the LAPD motto so unless you live in Los Angeles it's not really relevant

[blackdog]

Then it wouldn't have been me - I don' lie, don't need to.

If somebody gets convicted it will never be because I lied...getting a conviction ain't THAT important.

I applaud your morals.

My faith in your average bobby went out the window when after a night in a holding cell my jewellery wasn't waiting for me in the morning.

[Akzle]

i believe that we need to give up the notion that the Police is there to Protect and Serve.
they neither protect nor do they serve



they are trained to upheld the law, wheter it makes sense or not
they are trained in crowd control, and will use tools considered weapons in the hand of civilians to keep you in line
they are trained to fill out forms which will cost the citizens many dollars called infringement notice.....after all the state needs cash
they are trained to intimidate


protect and serve is not on their mind nor is it their business.

allow me to simplify:
1) they're trained to enforce policy. (POLICy Enforcer)
2) they enforce policy.

fuck you, citizen.

[blue rider]

allow me to simplify:
1) they're trained to enforce policy. (POLICy Enforcer)
2) they enforce policy.

fuck you, citizen.



you are as always to kind.....:laugh:

[scissorhands]

He's trying to help you from making certain enemies:Police:.... you never know who is reading your online words. Be more careful of what you say when you are upset or angry.....:nono:

Cops do protect and serve, unless doughnuts are on sale:bleh:

Plenty of good cops. Better than your average citizen I would say. You want to see some of the cunts they have to deal with, day in day out

[scumdog]

allow me to simplify:
1) they're trained to enforce policy. (POLICy Enforcer)
2) they enforce policy.

fuck you, citizen.

Enjoy!!:banana:

[ducatilover]

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/05/dope-growing-is-bad-for-the-environment/

Could be interesting to research more. I'm not sure any marijuana supporters will be too happy with the idea that indoors growing potentially makes a shit load of emissions

[bogan]

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/05/dope-growing-is-bad-for-the-environment/

Could be interesting to research more. I'm not sure any marijuana supporters will be too happy with the idea that indoors growing potentially makes a shit load of emissions

Brutal

http://evan-mills.com/energy-associates/Indoor.html

Still, grow in winter and your grow closet could double as a heater and thus not cost much more overall anyway.

However this part is somewhat concerning from a bias point of view.

From the perspective of individual consumers, a single Cannabis cigarette represents 2 pounds of CO2 emissions, an amount equal to running a 100-watt light bulb for 25 hours with average U.S. electricity (or 45 hours on California’s cleaner grid).
Why is it equal to two different runtime hours for different grids?

[ducatilover]

Brutal

http://evan-mills.com/energy-associates/Indoor.html

Still, grow in winter and your grow closet could double as a heater and thus not cost much more overall anyway.

However this part is somewhat concerning from a bias point of view.

Why is it equal to two different runtime hours for different grids?

Good article.

I think that little quote you have could just be to make Cali look green? We all know Cali is full of two stroke banning, FIAT driving, sandal wearing hippie fucks

[bogan]

Good article.

I think that little quote you have could just be to make Cali look green? We all know Cali is full of two stroke banning, FIAT driving, sandal wearing hippie fucks

Hmmm, but isn't weed grown using energy off the grid, so it would have been better to say a joint represents 2 pounds of CO2 emissions, or 1 pound if grown using cali's greener grid. And yes, fuck those guys and their dislike of 2Ts.

[mashman]

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/05/dope-growing-is-bad-for-the-environment/

Could be interesting to research more. I'm not sure any marijuana supporters will be too happy with the idea that indoors growing potentially makes a shit load of emissions

OMFG, you mean using electricity to keep heat lamps etc... on is bad for the environment? Who would have thought such things could be so damaging. I guess all of those cloud computing centers, bitcoin generating monsters (http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/13/the-cost-of-a-bitcoin/), and office lights left on all night must equate to driving around the world 7 times. Fuck me. Electricity bad for the environment eh.

[mashman]

Hmmm, but isn't weed grown using energy off the grid, so it would have been better to say a joint represents 2 pounds of CO2 emissions, or 1 pound if grown using cali's greener grid. And yes, fuck those guys and their dislike of 2Ts.

Or fuck all if you have solar arrays :blip:... and that CO2 always existed dinnit?

[ducatilover]

Hmmm, but isn't weed grown using energy off the grid, so it would have been better to say a joint represents 2 pounds of CO2 emissions, or 1 pound if grown using cali's greener grid. And yes, fuck those guys and their dislike of 2Ts. Fair point, I think it may be sensationalising it, or trying to put it in perspective for a wider audience?
Bring back 2Ts, if they can grow pot, we can RG500

OMFG, you mean using electricity to keep heat lamps etc... on is bad for the environment? Who would have thought such things could be so damaging. I guess all of those cloud computing centers, bitcoin generating monsters (http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/13/the-cost-of-a-bitcoin/), and office lights left on all night must equate to driving around the world 7 times. Fuck me. Electricity bad for the environment eh.

I thought you were a supporter of the environment protection stuff Mashy? I haven't said anything silly about it being a mega-pollutant, but it is a factor and indoor growing is polluting (not that it's hard to see that eh?), those lovely big indoor set ups do take a lot of grunt
Nobody is saying stop growing, just look in to more efficient ways of doing so

So, marijuana supporters, don't get disjointed (hehehe) from that, but think of more efficiant ways to make pot (outdoors probably isn't the answer? I don't know though, I know little about plant growing, except tomatoes, I have great tomato plants)

No conclusion jumping, son. Bad for the hips

[Katman]

Perhaps one of the reasons it's grown inside is because it's illegal.

[mashman]

I thought you were a supporter of the environment protection stuff Mashy? I haven't said anything silly about it being a mega-pollutant, but it is a factor and indoor growing is polluting (not that it's hard to see that eh?), those lovely big indoor set ups do take a lot of grunt
Nobody is saying stop growing, just look in to more efficient ways of doing so

So, marijuana supporters, don't get disjointed (hehehe) from that, but think of more efficiant ways to make pot (outdoors probably isn't the answer? I don't know though, I know little about plant growing, except tomatoes, I have great tomato plants)

No conclusion jumping, son. Bad for the hips

Ma post was very much tongue in cheeky... keep them hips completely jointed for more fun pursuits. Best just to let the stuff grow au naturale and if the coppas will stop nickin it, it's a win win :D

[ducatilover]

Perhaps one of the reasons it's grown inside is because it's illegal.
The article is based in places where it's legal to grow. But it is the illegal issue here, and the far, far better quality and production.

Ma post was very much tongue in cheeky... keep them hips completely jointed for more fun pursuits. Best just to let the stuff grow au naturale and if the coppas will stop nickin it, it's a win win :D

It'll grow slower though :bleh:

[mashman]

It'll grow slower though :bleh:

Hmmmm, grow slower with little to no operating costs or grow quicker with much higher operating costs... lemme see if my giveashitometer is in the mood for giving a shit. Nope. It's pretty ok with that

[ducatilover]

Hmmmm, grow slower with little to no operating costs or grow quicker with much higher operating costs... lemme see if my giveashitometer is in the mood for giving a shit. Nope. It's pretty ok with that

What if you're a supplier though?

[imdying]

Fucked if I care, I have a garage full of two strokes... any CO2 a closet of weed produces is minor in comparison.

[scissorhands]

whaleoil should change its name to chicken shit
what a unbalanced sensational piece of poor journalism
remind me never to read his crap

[ducatilover]

whaleoil should change its name to chicken shit
what a unbalanced sensational piece of poor journalism
remind me never to read his crap

Will you put up some reasoning? Debates are what KB is about, seeing as none of you knobs talk about bikes. :cool:

[scissorhands]

relativity my dear watson
I really cant be bothered arguing total crap like that chickenshit article


thanks

[Banditbandit]

Will you put up some reasoning? Debates are what KB is about, seeing as none of you knobs talk about bikes. :cool:

1) Everything that is stated or said is based on a subjective view - an ideological position. (See Zizej, van Dyk, and others)
2) Good journalism seeks to limit that subjectivity (it always fails)
3) Whale Oil does not even try to limit objectivity. It has an undeclared but obvious rightwing bias
4) That means its stuff is not good journalism, but are heavily biased piece of propoganda.
5) Therefore, it is crap

(And yes, journalism with a leftwing bias is just as crappy)

[mashman]

What if you're a supplier though?

Then the clients will have to wait... or at least learn to make their stash last a little longer... or grow more... or encourage more growers... or encourage their neighbours to grow too... or start planting out the roadsides and roundabouts.

[ducatilover]

relativity my dear watson
I really cant be bothered arguing total crap like that chickenshit article


thanks You're no fun any more.


1) Everything that is stated or said is based on a subjective view - an ideological position. (See Zizej, van Dyk, and others)
2) Good journalism seeks to limit that subjectivity (it always fails)
3) Whale Oil does not even try to limit objectivity. It has an undeclared but obvious rightwing bias
4) That means its stuff is not good journalism, but are heavily biased piece of propoganda.
5) Therefore, it is crap

(And yes, journalism with a leftwing bias is just as crappy)
Did you read the one Bogan posted?
Propoganda etc, it's the media, so what does one expect?

Just saying, it raises an interesting subject.

Then the clients will have to wait... or at least learn to make their stash last a little longer... or grow more... or encourage more growers... or encourage their neighbours to grow too... or start planting out the roadsides and roundabouts.

Oh c'mon, that encourages moderation and/or responsibility, which we will not tolerate.

And supply and demand triumphs over any good/bad arguments, because profiteering rules. So, it probably doesn't even matter that indoor growing set ups are electricity hungry.

I'd like to see some reasoned approaches to the subject. Are there better ways of sustaining indoor growth without such heavy electrical use (this would benefit every one growing and buying, maximising profits and lowering costs, not an anti-growing dig)

[scissorhands]

You're no fun any more.

I'd like to see some reasoned approaches to the subject. Are there better ways of sustaining indoor growth without such heavy electrical use ...

The problem as always is prohibition. Take away prohibition and viola, everyone is growing outdoors

Scenario 1.

Dope smoker/grower, no car, no license, no overseas travel[conviction], rides his BMX down the skatepark, doesnt wash himself or cloths much, no commuting as is unemployed, possibly vegetarian, no hobbies just weed growing and air guitar playing, etc etc....

Scenario 2.

Upwardly mobile businessman, Audi upgraded every other year, overseas travel, long commutes from hobby farm to city, air conditioned offices, underfloor heating at home, maintenance costs on the batch or boat, business functions in Queenstown, many new toys and gadgets, new phone every year etc etc.....

Overseas travel alone pushes scenario2 well well well beyond scenario1 in carbon use and CO2 and environmental damage

Its a no brainer.

next chickenshit will be saying cannabis causes Polynesians to rape white wimen:doh:

[mashman]

Oh c'mon, that encourages moderation and/or responsibility, which we will not tolerate.

And supply and demand triumphs over any good/bad arguments, because profiteering rules. So, it probably doesn't even matter that indoor growing set ups are electricity hungry.

I'd like to see some reasoned approaches to the subject. Are there better ways of sustaining indoor growth without such heavy electrical use (this would benefit every one growing and buying, maximising profits and lowering costs, not an anti-growing dig)

Sorry, is that what I pos... fuck, I did didn't I. I do apologise, I feel dirty, almost as though I've been assimilated.

Very true.

Grow lamps. Not those big power Power POWER sodium bulbs, but the LED's that have low draw v high output and can run for 18 hours (all 130 of them) off a motorcycle battery. Bummer is though, them LED's are feckin expensive. I believe it's to do with light wavelengths more than just light and the right mix of LED's seems to do the trick according the the interwebz. Wish I had had a bit more money to give them a whirl.


next chickenshit will be saying cannabis causes Polynesians to rape white wimen:doh:

What's do they take to get the urge to rape white men?

[Madness]

Scenario 1.

Dope smoker/grower, no car, no license, no overseas travel[conviction], rides his BMX down the skatepark, doesnt wash himself or cloths much, no commuting as is unemployed, possibly vegetarian, no hobbies just weed growing and air guitar playing, etc etc....

Scenario 2.

Self-important has-been sidecar racer, drives an old shitbox, probably a Toyota, travels to all the big meets, makes the short commute to the workshop each day hardly gets the engine warm, tows the chair, spares & tools, drinks cheap piss and relies on a generator to keep 'em cold, sidecar leaks oil like a sieve, blows blue smoke, needs daily oil top-ups, etc etc.....

Driving an old Toyota alone pushes scenario2 well well well beyond scenario1 in carbon use and CO2 and environmental damage

Its a no brainer alright.

[scissorhands]

What's do they take to get the urge to rape white men?

'mahu vahine' stamped on the forehead?





Cannabis legalisation in US shows opportunity for NZ tourism


Norml New Zealand welcomes the legalisation of cannabis in the US states of Colorado and Washington and call for a similar law change here.

Norml vice-president Abe Gray said many people choose to visit and immigrate to New Zealand especially because of the laid back kiwi attitude and relaxed atmosphere.

"New Zealand has the highest rate of cannabis use in the developed world, and many of our tourists routinely solicit locals, looking to buy cannabis", said Mr. Gray

"By simply legitimising what is already happening all over New Zealand, time and time again, every day, we could be free of the harmful effects of prohibition on kiwis, and reaping the windfall revenues projected by Colorado and Washington"

Mr. Gray said Britain had also relaxed its cannabis laws in the last month.

“New Zealand needs to find a way to grow our tourism numbers without impacting on our already stretched recreational infrastructure. Conventional wisdom is that we need more visitors to stay in cities for longer and spend more money, so we need some new niche tourism product to attract that type of visitor", said Mr. Gray

"Cannabis tourists love to just chill out and spend time checking out cafes and galleries. They also spend more on average than the typical backpacker. Cannabis is yet another locally grown commodity that they would love to consume along with our world renowned wine and food. But as kiwi business owners well know, if you want to make the most out of an emerging market, you have to be in before everyone else"

Previous New Zealand drug policy has seemingly always been to copy the US and the UK. So lets keep copying them and reform our cannabis prohibition laws as recommended by the New Zealand Law Commission, and we can ride the green wave to economic prosperity

[ducatilover]

The problem as always is prohibition. Take away prohibition and viola, everyone is growing outdoors

Scenario 1.

Dope smoker/grower, no car, no license, no overseas travel[conviction], rides his BMX down the skatepark, doesnt wash himself or cloths much, no commuting as is unemployed, possibly vegetarian, no hobbies just weed growing and air guitar playing, etc etc....

Scenario 2.

Upwardly mobile businessman, Audi upgraded every other year, overseas travel, long commutes from hobby farm to city, air conditioned offices, underfloor heating at home, maintenance costs on the batch or boat, business functions in Queenstown, many new toys and gadgets, new phone every year etc etc.....

Overseas travel alone pushes scenario2 well well well beyond scenario1 in carbon use and CO2 and environmental damage

Its a no brainer.

next chickenshit will be saying cannabis causes Polynesians to rape white wimen:doh:
But why would you start growing outside if you're supplying? That's what I want to know.
Obviously the home, self use grower will grow outside, not everyone though has the time/space/energy to grow their own (look at Tobacco, for instance...)
So, would it be worth looking in to more efficient measures for inside growers (as my previous question asked)
I've already said, I do not know fuck all about growing pot, so educate me? I would expcet it likes a certain climate to flourish and go mad, to grow as people demand? I also suspect a big scale, outside set up will be a little more spread out, and will take up a lot of room, with less gaurantees of production rates. Then another thing I won't bother touching on would be growth enhancing stuff (word slips my mind, tired/beer/no hookers etc)
Perhaps the outdoor growth is far more profitable than I would have thought? And sustainable?


Sorry, is that what I pos... fuck, I did didn't I. I do apologise, I feel dirty, almost as though I've been assimilated. You are dirty, Mashy. Very.

Slut.




Grow lamps. Not those big power Power POWER sodium bulbs, but the LED's that have low draw v high output and can run for 18 hours (all 130 of them) off a motorcycle battery. Bummer is though, them LED's are feckin expensive. I believe it's to do with light wavelengths more than just light and the right mix of LED's seems to do the trick according the the interwebz. Wish I had had a bit more money to give them a whirl.



What's do they take to get the urge to rape white men?
Well, here is a good bit of consumer advice, LED lamps.
Do they deliver the heat/whatever the plants need?
LEDs aren't that expensive, and the cost of running them would easily outweigh the benefits.
What 'bout them ozone generators? What's that and is it hungry?

:banana:look, I'll be a pro-pot-grower by the end of this thread.
Or I might have gained some answers to some questions that I find interesting.
There's no denying there's a large amount of electricity consumed making indoor pot. I've known enough people growing to know that it ain't cheap. Which is bad for teh environmentthing, which many of my heavier marijuana smoking mates claim they want to save.

[ducatilover]

many of our tourists routinely solicit locals, looking to buy cannabis", said Mr. Gray



This is very true. I helped out some German and French tourists that broke down on our driveway a few years ago (because I'm a nice chap, and French chicks are hot) and they were very interested in finding somebody to get some weed from, apparently in Germany it's a bit hard to get.

[scissorhands]

Here you go catlover

This video below shows outdoor medpot farms in northern California. California dispensary's are supplied from [mostly] outdoor crops tended by teams of live in guys with guns as each pound is still worth US$3-4k

Cannabis is a weed and vey easy to grow almost anywhere except frost, tho a light frost can be tolerated. The main problem with outdoor crops is heavy rain washing trichomes off the plant surface, thus lowering potency and enjoyability.

Cali has low rain so is ideal as these images show. 10lb massive plants. i think at the end of this video shows a harvesting factory complete with machinery and workers in the crop shed



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPSHxdB55ys

[ducatilover]

I knew you couldn't resist putting something up :niceone: it is a tiny bit lacking in info, so I suppose if I can be bothered I'll go do my own research (so much effort eh)
Good to see they have outside places like that, but it's not a surprise in Cali. New Mexico have a few indoors places, but that's all I have seen in about 24 seconds of googling.

Would that work here? I'm not sure we have the climate for plants to grow so well

edit: I learned lots today, I found out what trichomes are.
Learning about marijuana emissions and growing efficiencies on a motorcycle forum, only KB!

[scissorhands]

Would that work here? I'm not sure we have the climate for plants to grow so well



Cannabis is a weed and its too easy to cultivate, even a moron can do it.

Dryer places are better, anywhere that has grapes will do very well, also BOP Canterbury and Northland.

Cannabis plots can have tarps that pull over when heavy rains arrive..... so even the west coast will produce quality crops

Peeps at home can grow a quality plant on a window sill or verandah.

Fields of low grade could be produced at costs similar to/and harvested like corn

Drop the emissions bullshit its a dead horse

[bogan]

Drop the emissions bullshit its a dead horse

It's not that bad, and its all distributed across the power grid, nowhere near enough concentrated carbon emmisions to kill a horse.

Seriously though, I think you're confusing an interesting discussion with an attack on your weed smoking ways.

[ducatilover]

Seriously though, I think you're confusing an interesting discussion with an attack on your weed smoking ways. :bleh: Happens every time eh. It's like talking about Harleys.


Cannabis is a weed and its too easy to cultivate, even a moron can do it.

Dryer places are better, anywhere that has grapes will do very well, also BOP Canterbury and Northland.

Cannabis plots can have tarps that pull over when heavy rains arrive..... so even the west coast will produce quality crops

Peeps at home can grow a quality plant on a window sill or verandah.

Fields of low grade could be produced at costs similar to/and harvested like corn

Drop the emissions bullshit its a dead horse
Well, there's our answer thanks

I only raise the emissions crap because it seems to be the thing to do, regardless of what I think.

[scissorhands]

its such an unbalanced and moronic argument it deserves to be labelled as such

[bogan]

its such an unbalanced and moronic argument it deserves to be labelled as such

One could say it's only an unbalanced moron who sees an argument where there is none :bleh:

[scumdog]

its such an unbalanced and moronic argument it deserves to be labelled as such

No, no, there's good value and purpose in this argument...I think...maybe...possibly...:rolleyes:

[ducatilover]

:cool: it's something to do while the soup is cooking though

[blackdog]

Debate and poll on TV3 tonight.

http://www.3news.co.nz/TVShows/TheVote/Home.aspx

[mashman]

Debate and poll on TV3 tonight.

http://www.3news.co.nz/TVShows/TheVote/Home.aspx

Typical homo Repost: The Vote, 22 May, TV3, 8.30-9.30pm (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/158798-The-Vote-22-May-TV3-8-30-9-30pm)

[gwigs]

283116
Burn it man...

[Mushu]

Debate and poll on TV3 tonight.

http://www.3news.co.nz/TVShows/TheVote/Home.aspx

Looks like a win for us stoners, bet we won't see any change anyway

lol, Peter Dunn, basically the government doesn't care what the people say, no chance of a law change.

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[mashman]

bet we won't see any change anyway

Dunne confirmed that it wasn't even being looked at. Not a surprise given those stupid fuckin bow ties he wares. Bravo Mr Magoo.

[Katman]

Dunne confirmed that it wasn't even being looked at. Not a surprise given those stupid fuckin bow ties he wares. Bravo Mr Magoo.

The government can only ignore the people for so long.

[scissorhands]

At least the gangs will be happy:laugh:

[mashman]

The government can only ignore the people for so long.

Do ya reckon?


At least the gangs will be happy:laugh:

Aye, the politicians will be stoked :eek:

[ducatilover]

Looks like a win for us stoners, bet we won't see any change anyway You will on synthetic recreational drugs, I expect.


lol, Peter Dunn, basically the government doesn't care what the people say, no chance of a law change.

But, the government is not looking in to legalising cannabis.

But, because prohibition hasn't worked my new political party will decriminalise lots of stuff. :niceone:

[Katman]

Do ya reckon?


At those sorts of figures - yeah, I reckon.

[mashman]

At those sorts of figures - yeah, I reckon.

Maybe... but I'd be very surprised if they did coz they're protecting us from ourselves and would have to let loose all of those criminals from jail along with removing criminal convictions for all minor cannabis convictions. Other than that, sure, the politicians will listen :sleep:

[Mushu]

You will on synthetic recreational drugs, I expect.


But, the government is not looking in to legalising cannabis.

But, because prohibition hasn't worked my new political party will decriminalise lots of stuff. :niceone:

Funny how the legal highs guy hit the nail on the head, easiest way to get rid of synthetic cannabis is to legalize the real thing. Seems to me he has the most to lose from this statement, no matter how true it is.

It'll be a long time before the government seriously looks at law changes regarding dope, too much at stake... police funding, crooked politicians, easy convictions, not to mention all the work involved in clearing peoples records and letting masses out of jail. I don't see it happening any time soon.

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[bogan]

It'll be a long time before the government seriously looks at law changes regarding dope, too much at stake... police funding, crooked politicians, easy convictions, not to mention all the work involved in clearing peoples records and letting masses out of jail. I don't see it happening any time soon.

Yup, but the onesidedness of the debate due to blustering arguments from the prohibition side (sounds familiar eh) showed that that stance against decriminalisation is illogical in the current climate.

[ducatilover]

Funny how the legal highs guy hit the nail on the head, easiest way to get rid of synthetic cannabis is to legalize the real thing. Seems to me he has the most to lose from this statement, no matter how true it is. Unless the cannabis is majorly taxed, as anything fun in NZ is, then synthetics will be safe-ish (lol love that) and probably cheaper? That's purely speculation on my side though.
The "pohibition isn't working so legalise it" argument is not the err smartest, yes it's a good point that the current system isn't 100% effective, but petty theft happens all the time and that is also illegal.

It'll be a long time before the government seriously looks at law changes regarding dope, too much at stake... police funding, crooked politicians, easy convictions, not to mention all the work involved in clearing peoples records and letting masses out of jail. I don't see it happening any time soon.


I don't see it any time soon either. The only real reason, that we won't be told by mediafags, would be the revenue gathering
Then our lovely gang people could have a legitimate income!

[ducatilover]

Yup, but the onesidedness of the debate due to blustering arguments from the prohibition side (sounds familiar eh) showed that that stance against decriminalisation is illogical in the current climate.

The audience interrupting what had a small amount of potential of being a reasonable debate fucked it up a bit.
The decrim side avoided quite a few questions, and there was a lot of pointless of topic waffling.

But, it's TV and most people watching it seemed to have thought it was a superb debate showing that marijuana is fab and that synth is cool.

[scissorhands]

I would not go anywhere near cannabis/syn whatsoever if I was you

Some people just shouldn't
none never no nien niet

Some crack might work tho

[ducatilover]

I would not go anywhere near cannabis/syn whatsoever if I was you

Some people just shouldn't
none never no nien niet

Some crack might work tho

Gay men love crack :spanking:

[98tls]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:So the end result, kids can carry on smoking rat poison and welfare groups get TVNZ funding to promote making the best use of your back yard:laugh::laugh:insane fucking country:weird:

[Mushu]

Unless the cannabis is majorly taxed, as anything fun in NZ is, then synthetics will be safe-ish (lol love that) and probably cheaper? That's purely speculation on my side though.
The "pohibition isn't working so legalise it" argument is not the err smartest, yes it's a good point that the current system isn't 100% effective, but petty theft happens all the time and that is also illegal.

I've smoked my share of synthetic shit when I first stopped smoking weed, it its cheaper by weight but nowhere near the quality of even bush weed, and I'm sure most would agree. If they got rid of the bullshit piss tests and decriminalized weed for personal use that would kill the synthetic market. And as far as the theft analogy goes, if I grow a plant and smoke it at home who's the victim?


I don't see it any time soon either. The only real reason, that we won't be told by mediafags, would be the revenue gathering
Then our lovely gang people could have a legitimate income!

Decriminalization wouldn't give the gangs a legitimate source of income, dealing would still be illegal. (I'd be happy to string up some lights in my cupboard and grow my own). Admittedly the only way to take the profits off the gangs would be to actually legalize it, but the UN won't allow anyone to actually legalize it (it's not even fully legal in Amsterdam, the cafes still have to buy from illegal growers and can only sell small amounts)

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[scumdog]

Funny how the legal highs guy hit the nail on the head, easiest way to get rid of synthetic cannabis is to legalize the real thing. Seems to me he has the most to lose from this statement, no matter how true it is.



Probably got a big grow somewhere as back-up in case the man-made crap is banned...

[ducatilover]

Decriminalization wouldn't give the gangs a legitimate source of income, dealing would still be illegal. (I'd be happy to string up some lights in my cupboard and grow my own). Admittedly the only way to take the profits off the gangs would be to actually legalize it, but the UN won't allow anyone to actually legalize it (it's not even fully legal in Amsterdam, the cafes still have to buy from illegal growers and can only sell small amounts)

Sent from my XT535 using Tapatalk 2 Why would the gangs stop selling it it's legal though? It'd still be profitable. Not everybody is going to grow their own, look at tobacco and alcohol, it's considerably cheaper to DIY but only a small percentage do

If I were a gang cunt selling pot, and it became legal to do so I would have my shit on shelves and be selling to the public

[scissorhands]

Why would the gangs stop selling it it's legal though? It'd still be profitable. Not everybody is going to grow their own, look at tobacco and alcohol, it's considerably cheaper to DIY but only a small percentage do

If I were a gang cunt selling pot, and it became legal to do so I would have my shit on shelves and be selling to the public

Profits will shrink to a point its not viable for them, the legal weed cost now made up of mostly government tax.

Koreans will start growing it and selling it cheap at the Sunday markets....

Many would rather give their money to gang cunts than government cunts:eek:

maybe its much the same anyhoos? your giving your money to cunts who are going to blow it on coke and bitches whether they are in a beehive or a heavily fenced gang property

I must be in a bad mood today....

[ducatilover]

Profits will shrink to a point its not viable for them, the legal weed cost now made up of mostly government tax.

Koreans will start growing it and selling it cheap at the Sunday markets....

Many would rather give their money to gang cunts than government cunts:eek:

maybe its much the same anyhoos? your giving your money to cunts who are going to blow it on coke and bitches whether they are in a beehive or a heavily fenced gang property

I must be in a bad mood today....

I don't think it'll shrink profits that much, and they'd just raise the price anyway. Easy enough for them to push others out the market.
There really isn't much reason why it'd ruin profits is there?

I could do with some coke and bitches

[unstuck]

I choose to grow my own because it means I dont have to support people who sell it for a living. But just lately I am begining to think it may be easier just to give it up completely. Now that I have to go to court for cultivation, I am wondering if a life addicted to prescription sleeping pills might just be the easier option,at least it would be legal. I probably wouldnt be able to work, so that I would have to go on some sort of benefit, but at least I wouldnt be breaking the law. Anyone got any legal ways that help extremely hyperactive individuals get a bit of kip? :sleep::no:

[oneofsix]

I choose to grow my own because it means I dont have to support people who sell it for a living. But just lately I am begining to think it may be easier just to give it up completely. Now that I have to go to court for cultivation, I am wondering if a life addicted to prescription sleeping pills might just be the easier option,at least it would be legal. I probably wouldnt be able to work, so that I would have to go on some sort of benefit, but at least I wouldnt be breaking the law. Anyone got any legal ways that help extremely hyperactive individuals get a bit of kip? :sleep::no:

so the legal fake crap doesn't work? (no surprises there) Try being honest with the judge, worked for a guy in Nelson area, not "allowed" to be caught again but don't think he got "punished".

[scissorhands]

I don't think it'll shrink profits that much, and they'd just raise the price anyway. Easy enough for them to push others out the market.
There really isn't much reason why it'd ruin profits is there?

I could do with some coke and bitches

supply and demand

due to illegality supply is risky and only done by a few
if legality occurred
more suppliers would appear thence lowering price
plus peeps can now grow at home without fear of arrest
growing weed is 20x easier than brewing or curing tobacco
..............

I still reckon crack would suit you needs best
how many rollies do you smoke a day?

[mashman]

I choose to grow my own because it means I dont have to support people who sell it for a living. But just lately I am begining to think it may be easier just to give it up completely. Now that I have to go to court for cultivation, I am wondering if a life addicted to prescription sleeping pills might just be the easier option,at least it would be legal. I probably wouldnt be able to work, so that I would have to go on some sort of benefit, but at least I wouldnt be breaking the law. Anyone got any legal ways that help extremely hyperactive individuals get a bit of kip? :sleep::no:

Sorry to hear it mate, tis fuckin bullshit. Good luck with the case. In the meantime, sleep aids

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20080509/Woman-Hit-Head-Mallet-719610.jpg

or

http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyres/30B5C34C-E1D6-42F4-9437-F8597F05FF6C/0/HomeNews11072011.jpg

Gotta say I've not had a really decent sleep since I stopped "regular" smokin 18 months ago.

[scissorhands]

I choose to grow my own because it means I dont have to support people who sell it for a living. But just lately I am begining to think it may be easier just to give it up completely. Now that I have to go to court for cultivation, I am wondering if a life addicted to prescription sleeping pills might just be the easier option,at least it would be legal. I probably wouldnt be able to work, so that I would have to go on some sort of benefit, but at least I wouldnt be breaking the law. Anyone got any legal ways that help extremely hyperactive individuals get a bit of kip? :sleep::no:

The judge will look at the bigger picture. Having a medical reason and a doctor on your side can sway them
I played the autism card once to good effect. Maybe if I was a bad boy it would never have worked
legal discretion can be achieved through your behaviour in other areas of life


I have a long history of community volunteering, which may mitigate any fall from grace.

Cultivation for supply charge? or simple cultivation?

Buying from gangs aint that bad, you make good money as an excavator? One hour's work a week to sleep better?

[ducatilover]

That sucks Unstuck. Get bitches and a boat, then leave
supply and demand

due to illegality supply is risky and only done by a few
if legality occurred
more suppliers would appear thence lowering price
plus peeps can now grow at home without fear of arrest
growing weed is 20x easier than brewing or curing tobacco
..............

I still reckon crack would suit you needs best
how many rollies do you smoke a day?
Ah, if it's that simple to grow, fair enough then :yes:

I smoke a 30 gram every 1-2 weeks ish, usually lasts about 12 days
Got given a bunch of duty free 50gms last week though, so I won't need to buy anything for a significant time :Punk:

[scissorhands]

Since I quit tobacco my grey hair is reversing back to black, honestly I'm much less grey now than 2-3 years ago
I think cannabis is good for stress relief?

[ducatilover]

Since I quit tobacco my grey hair is reversing back to black, honestly I'm much less grey now than 2-3 years ago
I think cannabis is good for stress relief?

You'll look less distinguished.

Correlation must mean causation today :bleh:
I smoke, this is why my car developed a misfire on the way down from Tauranga
But it's also the reason why I just scored a new bike frame for the next project last night:innocent:

[Akzle]

I smoke a 30 gram every 1-2 weeks ish, usually lasts about 12 days
Got given a bunch of duty free 50gms last week though, so I won't need to buy anything for a significant time :Punk:
i got 5x50s in through duty free last november, i'm down to the last 20g. i haven't had to smoke any of my homegrown yet...


Decriminalization wouldn't give the gangs a legitimate source of income, dealing would still be illegal. (I'd be happy to string up some lights in my cupboard and grow my own). Admittedly the only way to take the profits off the gangs would be to actually legalize it, but the UN won't allow anyone to actually legalize it (it's not even fully legal in Amsterdam, the cafes still have to buy from illegal growers and can only sell small amounts)

yeah nah.
see i reckons TBTP should fuck off and die. but short of that, that they should legalise it for personal use and sale. if you're found with personal amounts, carry on sir,
if you're found with dealing amounts, better get those accounts ledgers out to prove you've been paying the bees their share. (sweet fucking deal - do nothing, get money) or it's off to business court on business charges of fraud or tax evasion. which we all know carries effective penalties... like government bailouts!

plus it would solve, pretty much overnight, northland's "economic crisis"

[Banditbandit]

Anyone got any legal ways that help extremely hyperactive individuals get a bit of kip? :sleep::no:


SEX ... (and no drugs) ... works for me ...

[Banditbandit]

Since I quit tobacco my grey hair is reversing back to black,


Fuck me .. my hair is silver ... all over (head at least) ... I stopped smoking 11 months ago .. How long before I can expect to see it going back to its original colour?

[scissorhands]

but you didnt hang out at a cannabis club 20hours a week for 2 years playing pool?
you may need some medical cigarettes if you want to begin regeneration...

I've been on the H2O2 and my hormones are all out of whack, ever since I was a young girl:sunny::innocent:
The two bald patches on either side of my forehead are filling in too

I'm very young looking for a 50yr old, could have pulled a 20yr old recently, but just pulled myself instead when I got home.

[Mushu]

Why would the gangs stop selling it it's legal though? It'd still be profitable. Not everybody is going to grow their own, look at tobacco and alcohol, it's considerably cheaper to DIY but only a small percentage do

If I were a gang cunt selling pot, and it became legal to do so I would have my shit on shelves and be selling to the public

If it were decriminalized it would still be illegal to sell so the gangs would still sell it but they would still be as vulnerable to the police as they are now and people like me would grow their own so it would atleast cut into their profits

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[scissorhands]

A Richmond Bulldog senior member has 12 children.... would you take food out of the mouths of his babes?

[Mushu]

yeah nah.
see i reckons TBTP should fuck off and die. but short of that, that they should legalise it for personal use and sale. if you're found with personal amounts, carry on sir,
if you're found with dealing amounts, better get those accounts ledgers out to prove you've been paying the bees their share. (sweet fucking deal - do nothing, get money) or it's off to business court on business charges of fraud or tax evasion. which we all know carries effective penalties... like government bailouts!

plus it would solve, pretty much overnight, northland's "economic crisis"

I agree, it should be made fully legal, that way it can be standardized and I can buy it as a product from dairy/cafe/liquor store. Imagine what it would do for taxation, the police and a huge tourism boost. Of course that won't happen, even if you could get it through parliament the UN would step in and put a stop to it (I've heard it's fully legal in North Korea if you don't mind communism)


A Richmond Bulldog senior member has 12 children.... would you take food out of the mouths of his babes?

Yes, given the opportunity I would starve them all, or better yet feed them a bullet, starting with Dad.

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[Banditbandit]

but you didnt hang out at a cannabis club 20hours a week for 2 years playing pool?


Naa .. I Just rode big motorcycles with the bad boys ... and tried most drugs (love them - give me more ...) but seriously? I would not recommend the life style.

I still smoke weed ... it's been 41 years since my first toke .. and I'm still a regular smoker ...

[unstuck]

Cultivation for personal use Sissors, I am not into buying or selling weed, thats why I grow my own, First conviction for cultivation, and I was straight up with the cops and they were really good, they even left me a couple of buds. I have tried everything to help me sleep, but nothing else works like weed, without the side effects the sleeping pills gave me that is. At least I get to see a lot of the streets in gore during the nights now.:Punk::Punk:

[scissorhands]

Cultivation for personal use Sissors, I am not into buying or selling weed, thats why I grow my own, First conviction for cultivation, and I was straight up with the cops and they were really good, they even left me a couple of buds. I have tried everything to help me sleep, but nothing else works like weed, without the side effects the sleeping pills gave me that is. At least I get to see a lot of the streets in gore during the nights now.:Punk::Punk:

you live in Gore?? no wonder you cant sleep....;) you'll get a slap with a wet bus ticket probably, but it means if you get caught again you'll be in trouble.... get a trail bike and look to the hills next time;) at home is always risky.....cops may put tracking devices in vehicles:eek5:

Insomnia is common if giving up weed..... Try a herbalist or health store for something strong. Kiwiherb does 'sleep drops' which I heard are very strong

But even chamomile tea knocks me out, hot baths at night, a wee tug just before bedtime

Do an online adhd test..... if you score high, follow it up with a doctor or ADHD society association thingy, a real medical condition just discovered in late life and the judge will go so easy. Even if you dont want to go medical for court purposes, any confirmation for the judge from a reliable source can sway them

Many users have been self medicating all there lives unaware of an underlying neurological disorder. Confirmation from a reliable medical source is all the judge needs



I could get free [$3 a month] amphetamine from the state:shit: but the crackheads I met at the ADHD meetings were so mad as fuck:wacko: it put me off ever trying the state funded speed. Scary fuck crazy I tell you, free crack anyone????????

[unstuck]

Got told I was ADHD when I was about 12-13, I get really really tired and lie down and I am wide awake and ready to go again in about 5 mins but I feel like shit after a few days of that crap. I gave up weed for a couple of years and did things the legal way and ended up near losing my mind. Tis why I went back to the weed. All good though, I knew I was breaking the law, and now I have to take it on the chin. :Punk::Punk:

[scissorhands]

Got told I was ADHD when I was about 12-13, I get really really tired and lie down and I am wide awake and ready to go again in about 5 mins but I feel like shit after a few days of that crap. I gave up weed for a couple of years and did things the legal way and ended up near losing my mind. Tis why I went back to the weed. All good though, I knew I was breaking the law, and now I have to take it on the chin. :Punk::Punk:

Its a shame good medicine is illegal and bad medicine is not. Such is the way of the world:oi-grr:

[unstuck]

Its a shame good medicine is illegal and bad medicine is not. Such is the way of the world:oi-grr:

I often sit in town in the early hours of the morning and watch all the drunken idiots fighting and spewing and breaking bottles, and I have to wonder why that shit is legal, when weed is not. It is a strange world. If I was a cop I would rather have people at home asleep blissfully in a stoned coma, than causing all sorts of greif out and about on the piss. But I also am enough of a realist to realize it is not quite that simple.:crazy::wacko:

[mashman]

I often sit in town in the early hours of the morning and watch all the drunken idiots fighting and spewing and breaking bottles, and I have to wonder why that shit is legal, when weed is not. It is a strange world. If I was a cop I would rather have people at home asleep blissfully in a stoned coma, than causing all sorts of greif out and about on the piss. But I also am enough of a realist to realize it is not quite that simple.:crazy::wacko:

Well if you're gonna be awake, may as well enjoy yourself. Time to break out the acid :yes:

[scissorhands]

Magic mushroom season starts in the next few days, I feel a new thread coming on.

Plenty of teenagers with fried brains:crazy: due to no education of the harmfulness of sillycybin :facepalm:

prohibition is such a winner

[gwigs]

Magic mushroom season starts in the next few days, I feel a new thread coming on.

Plenty of teenagers with fried brains:crazy: due to no education of the harmfulness of sillycybin :facepalm:

prohibition is such a winner

Yes like likely locations ..tips etc..pics as well.....
The sillycybin thread....outa piss a
few people off..:yes:

[scumdog]

Magic mushroom season starts in the next few days, I feel a new thread coming on.

Plenty of teenagers with fried brains:crazy: due to no education of the harmfulness of sillycybin :facepalm:

prohibition is such a winner

hmm, the do get 'educated' at school AFIK.

And no prohibition would = being educated...?

[blackdog]

Magic mushroom season starts in the next few days, I feel a new thread coming on.

Plenty of teenagers with fried brains:crazy: due to no education of the harmfulness of sillycybin :facepalm:

prohibition is such a winner

I was over the moon when I picked two from the lawn this morning and they turned blue.

[blackdog]

Yes like likely locations ..tips etc..pics as well.....
The sillycybin thread....outa piss a
few people off..:yes:

You want GPS? I have a couple good spots.

[scissorhands]

hmm, the do get 'educated' at school AFIK.

And no prohibition would = being educated...?

been years since school for me too
prohibition does taint official advice and education....
[an ex housewife psychologist:motu: lets call her Nurse Ratshit....working at a crap psyche clinic accused me of having schizophrenia when I mentioned weed... she put it on my file... and every contact since with medical groups had them fishing for schizophrenia with me:facepalm: what a bunch of dumbass drongoes]
the upside is I stopped seeking help from idiots and feel much better:woohoo: for relegating them into the zone of useless pricks, where they belong

so no drug education if you have already left school?:blink:

[unstuck]

Did enough shrooms and acid when I was younger, lucky to come through that stage a little wiser with no lasting effects( so far), quite a few I know have not done so well thanks to shrooms and acid. I choose weed simply for the fact that I can still function like I need to, when I need to. I guess it is back to the drawing board though, because although the weed has been working for me, it is still illegal and I am not sure it is worth the hassle anymore. Back to the wonderful world of perscription medecine, and all the amazing side effects with it.:brick:

[scissorhands]

Did enough shrooms and acid when I was younger, lucky to come through that stage a little wiser with no lasting effects( so far), quite a few I know have not done so well thanks to shrooms and acid. I choose weed simply for the fact that I can still function like I need to, when I need to. I guess it is back to the drawing board though, because although the weed has been working for me, it is still illegal and I am not sure it is worth the hassle anymore. Back to the wonderful world of perscription medecine, and all the amazing side effects with it.:brick:

I agree overuse even continual use of those things is dangerous

And the tax payer pays for pharmacy meds instead of you, as with weed. Then when they make you unwell the tax payer pays again.....

Find a good herbalist in your area, kavakava is a knock out, 5HTP, a whole swag of legal options abound

Still, at the end of the day
a light heart will mean
you wont need anything at all
because you are at peace with the world
its a nice feeling
I've been there a few times:yes:
Its true freedom
Takes willpower and self belief

[mashman]

Did enough shrooms and acid when I was younger, lucky to come through that stage a little wiser with no lasting effects( so far), quite a few I know have not done so well thanks to shrooms and acid. I choose weed simply for the fact that I can still function like I need to, when I need to. I guess it is back to the drawing board though, because although the weed has been working for me, it is still illegal and I am not sure it is worth the hassle anymore. Back to the wonderful world of perscription medecine, and all the amazing side effects with it.:brick:

20 or 30 mushies will keep you completely functional and interestingly bouncy :msn-wink: Thanks for that top dad :D

[mashman]

Still, at the end of the day
a light heart will mean
you wont need anything at all
because you are at peace with the world
its a nice feeling
I've been there a few times:yes:
Its true freedom
Takes willpower and self belief

Myopia helps that along too.

[ducatilover]

Everyone knows hugs are better than drugs

[scissorhands]

Everyone knows hugs are better than drugs

I fucken hate hugs. My mum kept trying to hug me. Torture for some aspies

[Edbear]

I get to have both...

[ducatilover]

I fucken hate hugs. My mum kept trying to hug me. Torture for some aspies

Don't feel special, she hugged me lots too

[Akzle]

Don't feel special, she hugged me lots too

come to think of it, that was abt 9months before scissy made his first appearance?

[scissorhands]

Should I dobb him in? I'm sure hes on some illegal meds:weird:
Mums still got a flame candle burning for ya cat man, time to do the right thing and make her an honest woman

[ducatilover]

I'll turn this in to a Mills and Boon novel if you're not careful.
Just for her though, not because I'm fucked in the head.

[scissorhands]

You should see the file they have on me:weird::killingme

[ducatilover]

Because you're a sandal wearing hippie?
I bet you have a poorly trimmed beard and a VW

[scissorhands]

Probably because I vent my bile all over their sorry ass clinics, instead of sitting meekly and taking all the bullshit *care* like most compliant morons they see

[gwigs]

Because you're a sandal wearing hippie?
I bet you have a poorly trimmed beard and a VW

I have met him once at the ACC protests mission bay.., nice guy no beard or sandals,had a helmet,rode a two wheel machine..
Well spoken intelligent dude..

[scissorhands]

I have met him once at the ACC protests mission bay.., nice guy no beard or sandals,had a helmet,rode a two wheel machine..
Well spoken intellegent dude..

Thanks gwigs I remember you were getting stuck into Nick Smith big time, all the Remuera folks in the 'Orakei Yacht Club' were clutching their chest garments as you laid into Dipnick :clap: I can see it just like yesterday, good times.

[ducatilover]

I have met him once at the ACC protests mission bay.., nice guy no beard or sandals,had a helmet,rode a two wheel machine..
Well spoken intellegent dude..
It was a dig :bleh:
And I'm not surprised.


Probably because I vent my bile all over their sorry ass clinics, instead of sitting meekly and taking all the bullshit *care* like most compliant morons they see

We're not talking 'bout Mills and Boon are we?

Good on you though, by sitting and taking care, if not appropriate, the systems will never get changed for the better

[ducatilover]

Sounds like an... interesting place :(

[Millsie]

It's been a few days but people seem to be getting what decrimilsation actually is mixed with what legalisation is.

Decrimilsation: 'Legal' use and possess Cannabis. I.e. The Consumer of Cannabis is basically taxed further if they're caught by the police - They'll get a fine if caught with any amount but no court action will be taken. Dealing/supply and growing of Cannabis will still be illegal, so prices will go up further because of new increased demand.

Legalisation: Fully allowed to grow, possess, use and sell/distribute Cannabis. The police won't be able to touch anyone unless they voliate the laws placed around Cannabis. I.e. driving whilst baked off their face.

Decrimilsation is the best case for the Police force/Government, as they don't really give two fucks about users, but growers are worth a lot more money in their eyes. Increased demand and money incentive will make sure many more growers get into the game allowing for plenty of 'saving the community' work to be done.

Orr uhhh something like that :innocent:

[Mushu]

Dealing/supply and growing of Cannabis will still be illegal, so prices will go up further because of new increased demand.

I would assume decriminalization would include the ability to grow a couple of plants, should keep the increased demand at bay (although I would argue that demand wouldn't increase significantly, most who would smoke already do).

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[Akzle]

Decrimilsation is the best case for the Police force/Government, as they don't really give two fucks about users, but growers are worth a lot more money in their eyes. Increased demand and money incentive will make sure many more growers get into the game allowing for plenty of 'saving the community' work to be done.

yes. finding a grower, puting up a chopper, paying all the runts to go bush, spray it, court process, lawyers, jail - they're all getting paid!
(and it's YOU that pays them)
but "worth" a lot more? dont thinkso. and it wont change, because then they wont get paid. and jews love getting paid.

legalisation is the best case, and growers/dealers are taxed and regulated under a business sructure.
this is really easy for cops. they carry some scales, if you're holding more than , say, 2 or 3 pound a year, you better have the accounts ledgers to show your tax etc.
it also incentivises growers to do things "legit" - as they can write off that 30k hydro set up as a business expense, and completely removes the fear of persecution, and the need to associate with the less desirables.
it would also fix the economies and the "maori problem" wihin a month.

[Madness]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10887822


The newest drug-sniffing dog on the police force in one US city is not trained to point out the presence of marijuana. Other police departments in the area are re-training their dogs to ignore pot as well part of the new reality after voters in Washington state legalised marijuana use last year

[Madness]

Where's Ed & Grubber?

http://tokesignals.com/attorney-marijuana-may-not-impair-driving-ability-at-all/

:corn:

[unstuck]

It does turn some people into complete zombies, so I do not think he can say that it doesn't impare people. Tis a fairly blanket statement, but then I am a prick for not reading the whole of something. I have been on jobs where the client has said to me that I have done a much better job on the digger than the previous bloke he hired, because that guy was a pothead. Little did he know that I had been smoking most of the way through his job.:nya:

[Mushu]

It does turn some people into complete zombies, so I do not think he can say that it doesn't impare people. Tis a fairly blanket statement, but then I am a prick for not reading the whole of something. I have been on jobs where the client has said to me that I have done a much better job on the digger than the previous bloke he hired, because that guy was a pothead. Little did he know that I had been smoking most of the way through his job.:nya:

I have found that some people decide workers are useless as soon as they find out they smoke pot based on nothing else, my old boss used to whinge often about certain workers for no reason other than the fact he thought they smoke pot. He would have me redo their work, oblivious to the fact I was smoking 3 joints a day at work.

My Dad (a crane operator) once had me come work on site with him because his dogman was a pot smoker. He had me follow him around with a radio and ignored him (who was qualified) and followed my instructions knowing I was both a stoner myself and unqualified (although I am experienced). He even told me that he had me do this because he didn't trust the guy because he smoked weed.

It's all about the voodoo pharmacology the older generation has been fed. They tend to perceive pot to be some horrific drug that completely fucks with peoples minds. Things are changing, although very slowly, I do think within the next couple of generations we will see the legality of cannabis change quite a bit, probably not until they find a way to test if someones currently under the influence of pot rather than bullshit piss tests that only show if someones smoked in the last month.

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[scissorhands]

Its the reciprocity that is the issue...

As with autistics, the to-and-fro between a stoner and a straight peep is mismatched, out of sync. The stoner is de-stressed however, and does not care, whereas the straight does and gets upset

Same as when your sober and try to relate to a room full of drunks. The drunks dont care but the sober person gets annoyed with them

If drinking was illegal, the sober peep could embrace righteous indignation over the drunks

Same as cultural difference's and racism. We are expected to conform to the societal default setting, whitey male talk with a nudge of booze and coffee.

He is in the moral majority, the higher ground of pack consciousness

A fag in the corner of the mouth, just wont cut it in todays world. Fine a few decades back, even fashionable

[scissorhands]

Channel 7 Australia, 'Sunday Night' program. Screened - 8 July 2012.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-kFlVcg-cU

[scissorhands]

Peter Dunn just got called a wanker on TV3's 'The Nation'
Whats going on with Dunn'y?

[unstuck]

Fuck Peter Dunn.:tugger::tugger:

[mashman]

Peter Dunn just got called a wanker on TV3's 'The Nation'
Whats going on with Dunn'y?

Not enough drugs I guess. I believe he has resigned, his party don't have 500 members so should be deregistered and he's a wanker. Awwwwww bless.

[MIXONE]

Peter Dunn just got called a wanker on TV3's 'The Nation'
Whats going on with Dunn'y?

He's actually been having an affair with one of Donkey's advisors for the last 18 months!!!
Fucking lying,hypocritical arsehole.

[unstuck]

He's actually been having an affair with one of Donkey's advisors for the last 18 months!!!
Fucking lying,hypocritical arsehole.

Aint they all........:yes::yes::yes:

[Grubber]

Where's Ed & Grubber?

http://tokesignals.com/attorney-marijuana-may-not-impair-driving-ability-at-all/

:corn:

I for one have been utilizing my time with more intelligent people. Not sure about Ed, but my time is more valuable to me than wasting it listening to this garble day in day out!

[Madness]

I for one have been utilizing my time with more intelligent people. Not sure about Ed, but my time is more valuable to me than wasting it listening to this garble day in day out!

See, that's the thing with people like you. No matter who you spend your time with, you're always in the company of more intelligent people.

How's the onions going?

[bogan]

See, that's the thing with people like you. No matter who you spend your time with, you're always in the company of more intelligent people.

:lol: must spread rep....

[unstuck]

I for one have been utilizing my time with more intelligent people. Not sure about Ed, but my time is more valuable to me than wasting it listening to this garble day in day out!

Yet you wasted it anyway.:weird::msn-wink:

[Grubber]

See, that's the thing with people like you. No matter who you spend your time with, you're always in the company of more intelligent people.

How's the onions going?

More intelligent than you is where it was directed and they are not too hard to come by as it happens.

[scissorhands]

Scientific research has found that intelligent people are more likely to use drugs

[unstuck]

Scientific research has found that intelligent people are more likely to use drugs

I must be a fuckin genius by now then. :Punk::Punk:

[Banditbandit]

Scientific research has found that intelligent people are more likely to use drugs

Statistics also show that six out of seven dwarves are not happy ...

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT14lOCP4Av4_cU55hy1IRGAKxqRTCw2 LJyPBLwwIb79gUhbgMVz1uv3mvaMg

[Fergus]

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201010/why-intelligent-people-use-more-drugs

http://jech.bmj.com/content/66/9/767.short

I would bet my life arguing over who is the most intelligent is linked with low IQ :woohoo:

[mashman]

I would bet my life arguing over who is the most intelligent is linked with low IQ :woohoo:

heh, I can think of a couple of examples floating around the forum that prove your hypothesis :D

[scissorhands]

Has Dunn'ys missus threatened to throw a wobbly?

[Fergus]

heh, I can think of a couple of examples floating around the forum that prove your hypothesis :D

I would also bet confusing education with intelligence is linked with low IQ :eek:

[mashman]

I would also bet confusing education with intelligence is linked with low IQ :eek:

I'm glad I wouldn't dare make such an association. I leave that to elitist pricks :confused:

[scissorhands]

I would also bet confusing education with intelligence is linked with low IQ :eek:


I'm as dumb as **** when it comes to RI -relational intelligence

or EI emotional intelligence.... I'm not too bad

neither is taught in schools, and as important to a good life as general intelligence

shame they dont teach it....

MIGHT BE LESS STONERS AND DRUNKS??

[Banditbandit]

I would also bet confusing education with intelligence is linked with low IQ :eek:

And the definition of an Intellectual is ...

Someone who has been educated beyond their competency ...

[ducatilover]

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201010/why-intelligent-people-use-more-drugs

http://jech.bmj.com/content/66/9/767.short

I would bet my life arguing over who is the most intelligent is linked with low IQ :woohoo:

Intelligence doesn't stop you from getting addicted and IQ has no bearing on "life skills".

[ducatilover]

And the definition of an Intellectual is ...

Someone who has been educated beyond their competency ...

I'm an intellectual then :yes: I'm pretty incompetent and am very edumacateds.

[Fergus]

and IQ has no bearing on "life skills".


One definition of intelligence:

""A very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings—"catching on," "making sense" of things, or "figuring out" what to do""


Obviously IQ plays a role with learning anything..Including "life skills".

I think it's a reasonable assumption that low life skills (pun intended ;) ) correlate to a low IQ and vice versa.

[mashman]

One definition of intelligence:

""A very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings—"catching on," "making sense" of things, or "figuring out" what to do""


Obviously IQ plays a role with learning anything..Including "life skills".

I think it's a reasonable assumption that low life skills (pun intended ;) ) correlate to a low IQ and vice versa.

Einstein: "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."

[scissorhands]

We should clone Lockwood Smith

[Katman]

Einstein: "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."

Have you ever tried having an intellectual conversation with a goldfish?

It's like talking to Edbear.

[scissorhands]

The internet has allowed many almost mute autistics to communicate.

Until written communication became fashionable or acceptable as in forums, as we indulge now, many thought they were also dumb, only to find out many had high intelligence

Psychopaths have very good conversational skills, salespeople aint bad either

[mashman]

Have you ever tried having an intellectual conversation with a goldfish?

It's like talking to Edbear.

intell what? Goldfish just call me Bob all the time, it's really annoying.

[Edbear]

Have you ever tried having an intellectual conversation with a goldfish?

It's like talking to Edbear.

So you have intellectual conversations with goldfish. Explains a lot... :whistle:

[Banditbandit]

We should clone Lockwood Smith

I though someone already had ..

[mashman]

I though someone already had ..

The Joker from Batman judging by his smile. Maybe he's the father, which is kinda backed up given the actor topping himself not long after.

[Katman]

So you have intellectual conversations with goldfish. Explains a lot... :whistle:

Yes Ed. They swim round and round in a bowl and every 360 degrees they say "I've done all the research........I've done all the research.........I've done all the research........."

When in actual fact, all they've done is swim around in circles.

[scissorhands]

As far as todays intelligence goes, we are all in our baby shoes, even the brightest amongst us here.

In the future.....

[Banditbandit]

There wil be no future .. I am sorry, but I beleive that intellegence is an evolutionary dead end ...

Sure a certain level of intelligence is useful - it got us down from the trees, walking upright and making tools ... (well most of us .. there are still Harley Diddleson riders amongst us ...)

But higher intelligence leads to insanity .. and that is not a survival skills - in fact the opposite ..

It leads people to ask "what's the point?" and then opt out .. that has no survival either ...

It has lead me to not have children . no survival value there either ...

So, high intelligence is an evolutuionary dead end .. just as too low is a dead end ... just enough for survival has value ... outside that norm and the human race is screwed ...

[unstuck]

I think the human race is quite capable of keeping up with the technology we are creating, humans are an amazing species,Stupid, But amazing.:Punk::Punk:

[Edbear]

I think the human race is quite capable of keeping up with the technology we are creating, humans are an amazing species,Stupid, But amazing.:Punk::Punk:

Stupidly amazing one minute, amazingly stupid the next? :scratch:

[gwigs]

There wil be no future .. I am sorry, but I beleive that intellegence is an evolutionary dead end ...

Sure a certain level of intelligence is useful - it got us down from the trees, walking upright and making tools ... (well most of us .. there are still Harley Diddleson riders amongst us ...)

But higher intelligence leads to insanity .. and that is not a survival skills - in fact the opposite ..

It leads people to ask "what's the point?" and then opt out .. that has no survival either ...

It has lead me to not have children . no survival value there either ...

So, high intelligence is an evolutuionary dead end .. just as too low is a dead end ... just enough for survival has value ... outside that norm and the human race is screwed ...

Wish it wasn,t true but you have nailed it there..

[scissorhands]

There wil be no future .. I am sorry, but I beleive that intellegence is an evolutionary dead end ...

Sure a certain level of intelligence is useful - it got us down from the trees, walking upright and making tools ... (well most of us .. there are still Harley Diddleson riders amongst us ...)

But higher intelligence leads to insanity .. and that is not a survival skills - in fact the opposite ..

It leads people to ask "what's the point?" and then opt out .. that has no survival either ...

It has lead me to not have children . no survival value there either ...

So, high intelligence is an evolutuionary dead end .. just as too low is a dead end ... just enough for survival has value ... outside that norm and the human race is screwed ...

Your referring to intellectual intelligence again. [acute perception dont make you crazy... however it can drive you crazy if you let it]

Currently, relational intelligence will propel you all the way to the top. Networking and Machiavellian thought, coupled with narcissism and a touch of psychopathy... the dark triad

One day, this eras proponents of relational intelligence may be seen as sycophants, and nerdy engineers will finally rule the world!

Sieg hiel!!!

[Banditbandit]

Yeah .. sorry .. but psychopathy will also propell you to the top ...


http://www.fastcompany.com/3008909/leadership-now/do-psychopaths-get-promoted-faster

[bogan]

Yeah .. sorry .. but psychopathy will also propell you to the top ...


http://www.fastcompany.com/3008909/leadership-now/do-psychopaths-get-promoted-faster

Psychopathy? Is that like the militant arm of Homeopathy?

[Banditbandit]

Yeah ... it's the killer version ...

[Edbear]

Yeah ... it's the killer version ...

"You must spread..." :wacko:

[bogan]

Yeah ... it's the killer version ...

Hitcher will be most pleased to know its not all about the placebo effect then :D

[scissorhands]

Yeah .. sorry .. but psychopathy will also propell you to the top ...


http://www.fastcompany.com/3008909/leadership-now/do-psychopaths-get-promoted-faster

I've known a few.....
I befriended a minor one in my hood recently :motu:

Aspies are attracted to psychopaths and vice versa... they are opposites so yeah, opposites attract. I have an immediate relative who is such. Genetically they are on the same spectrum of imbalance of self, though at the other end to an aspie, who does have empathy, but does not generally show it.

The psychopath pretends to be empathetic
[I'll hide behind a smile,
and understanding eyes,
and I'll say things so you will say,
I really identify with you,
so much!]

Those with a 'normal' amount of relational intelligence can see through the psychopath, for what he/she is.
Aspies may be gullible and too trusting, believing in the goodness of others and trust focused.
Also lonely, lonely old people are often the victim of psychopaths, sometimes their own spawn
He, not any more here:ar15::ar15:

They do particularly well in politics and law, hospitals, schools and any institution with many to manipulate. Work-place bullying is often initiated by a psychopath.
Game of thrones anyone?

[Akzle]

The psychopath pretends to be empathetic
[I'll hide behind a smile,
and understanding eyes,
and I'll say things so you will say,
I really identify with you,
so much!]

:Oi: this isn't KiwiPoetry. take that shit somewhere else...

[scissorhands]

:Oi: this isn't KiwiPoetry. take that shit somewhere else...

Henry Rollins words, not mine
funny how hes the Aryan brotherhood on Sons Of Anarchy now


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaysTVcounI

[unstuck]

Henry Rollins words,

Very intelligent and entertaining gentalman. :yes: I had the pleasure of having a wee chat with him before one of his gigs. :Punk::Punk:

[mashman]

Very intelligent and entertaining genitalman. :yes: I had the pleasure of having a wee chat with him before one of his gigs. :Punk::Punk:

I hope he didn't touch you in your special place, because that would be wrong... without your permission that is. Oh and fixed it for ya :D

[unstuck]

I hope he didn't touch you in your special place, because that would be wrong... without your permission that is. Oh and fixed it for ya :D

Bastard.:motu:

[Akzle]

Henry Rollins words, not mine
funny how hes the Aryan brotherhood on Sons Of Anarchy now


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaysTVcounI

jews did it.

[scumdog]

jews did it.

Are you SMOKEU???:wacko:

[Akzle]

Are you SMOKEU???:wacko:

no. He's the self hating vitaligo fukkah. Im black as shit and hate crackers. Jew crackers especially.

[Banditbandit]

Are you SMOKEU???:wacko:


no. He's the self hating vitaligo fukkah. Im black as shit and hate crackers. Jew crackers especially.

You do know it is illegal to lie about your identity to a police officer?

[scissorhands]

This thread needs more trolls

[Banditbandit]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lkp7VxsgSzw/Tx0FmRT6CaI/AAAAAAAAAq8/YFQSDZZ46E0/s1600/troll+2.jpg

http://spellforce.jowood.com/images/races/titans/troll_cyclops.gif

[SMOKEU]

This thread needs more trolls

Oh yes it certainly does.

[Akzle]

You do know it is illegal to lie about your identity to a police officer?

whats an identity?

[Banditbandit]

whats an identity?

The internal narrative that we all have that tells us who we are ...

Or legally - Name and address ...

[Akzle]

The internal narrative that we all have that tells us who we are ...

Or legally - Name and address ...

capitus diminutio name...
and, occupation.

No fuken thanks. Legal persons aren't to my advantage as a free man.

[Banditbandit]

capitus diminutio name...
and, occupation.

No fuken thanks. Legal persons aren't to my advantage as a free man.

Far out - you're illiterate in three languages ?

[unstuck]

Far out - you're illiterate in three languages ?

How do you know he doesn't know who his father was.:blink:

[Akzle]

How do you know he doesn't know who his father was.:blink:

we really need to fix that school in the south island...


//im illiterate in every language.
I communicate by vocalising and pointing.

[scumdog]

capitus diminutio name...
and, occupation.

No fuken thanks. Legal persons aren't to my advantage as a free man.

Free to hide from all authority figures and 'others'??

[Akzle]

Free to hide from all authority figures and 'others'??

why should i hide?

[scumdog]

why should i hide?

Cause you can?;)

[scissorhands]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EouHnOxPizo

[Banditbandit]

George W admits to cocaine habit

http://wonkette.com/225767/fox-news-alert-george-w-bush-admits-cocaine-habit"]George W admits to cocaine use (http://wonkette.com/225767/fox-news-alert-george-w-bush-admits-cocaine-habit)

[unstuck]

Well my latest court visit was a real eye opener for me, this justic system is a real fucking joke now. Sat through 2 1/2 hours of the judge remanding everyone to a later date to gather more info, reports ect.... When most of the things going up could of been dealt with there and then by his lordshit. Seemed to me it was just the judges way of keeping the probation services busy. I am looking at home detention for 3 dope plants too,:killingme:killingme:killingme. Got remanded until september though, so probation can see if I live in a suitable enviroment. And I have to do some drug and alcohol counselling, cant wait for that, especially if this addiction councilor wants to step outside for a smoke before we begin, was fucken hilarious the last time that happened.:Punk::Punk:

[Big Dave]

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[unstuck]

^^^^^^:2thumbsup:2thumbsup^^^^^^^^^




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[scumdog]

Well my latest court visit was a real eye opener for me, this justic system is a real fucking joke now. Sat through 2 1/2 hours of the judge remanding everyone to a later date to gather more info, reports ect.... When most of the things going up could of been dealt with there and then by his lordshit.

"Welcome to my world..."

[unstuck]

"Welcome to my world..."

Yep, I could see the duty constable turning towards the cell doors and rolling his eyes a few times. Judges do not like it when you have no lawyer, dont want a lawyer and do not want to see the duty solicitor. I am guilty your honour, and would like to just move things along and get it dealt with now, seemed to fall on deaf ears and was even frowned upon. :wacko:

[Big Dave]

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[scissorhands]

Man, sorry to hear you have to deal with the shitstem like this.
What a waste of fucking time and tax payers money
sheesh enforcing crap laws
being gay was illegal
raping your wife WAS legal
psyche meds cause so much crime and illness
and yet your doctor is keen as to sign you up
even John Kirwan is in the ads on TV


Cannabis is such a relatively benign substance with zero hospital admissions
its so fucking ridiculous:crazy:

[unstuck]

Im not really that worried about it to tell you the truth, I can see the funny side of most things. Thats why I am not competely insane.:lol: Just a little fucked in the head.:yes:
At least I know that the judge has no sense of humour whatso ever, and he knows what a richard cranium is:eek5: And I thought I was being quiet, I will have to get my hearing checked, poor duty bobby nearly had kittens.:killingme:killingme

[mashman]

Im not really that worried about it to tell you the truth, I can see the funny side of most things. Thats why I am not competely insane.:lol: Just a little fucked in the head.:yes:
At least I know that the judge has no sense of humour whatso ever, and he knows what a richard cranium is:eek5: And I thought I was being quiet, I will have to get my hearing checked, poor duty bobby nearly had kittens.:killingme:killingme

Cocky crim bastard.

[Big Dave]

Im not really that worried about it to tell you the truth, I can see the funny side of most things. Thats why I am not competely insane.:lol: Just a little fucked in the head.:yes:
At least I know that the judge has no sense of humour whatso ever, and he knows what a richard cranium is:eek5: And I thought I was being quiet, I will have to get my hearing checked, poor duty bobby nearly had kittens.:killingme:killingme


Have you been watching the Chad Johnson (NFL) story? 30 days.

[gwigs]

Im not really that worried about it to tell you the truth, I can see the funny side of most things. Thats why I am not competely insane.:lol: Just a little fucked in the head.:yes:
At least I know that the judge has no sense of humour whatso ever, and he knows what a richard cranium is:eek5: And I thought I was being quiet, I will have to get my hearing checked, poor duty bobby nearly had kittens.:killingme:killingme

Love your attitude M8..rock on..hehe richard cranium..well said..Big ups from me :niceone:,:niceone

[unstuck]

Have you been watching the Chad Johnson (NFL) story? 30 days.

Never heard of him, why? whats he done? Never mind, I will let google be my friend.:2thumbsup

[unstuck]

Apparently this Chad Johnson bloke made a adult flick, couldnt find anything about the 30 days though, so you may have to enlighten me. Would be a fairly short porno with me in it.;)

[Big Dave]

Much hyped NFL wide receiver. Famous mostly for changing his name by deed poll to Chad Ochocinco. His football number 85 in Spanish.

Patted his attorney on the arse (as in 'well done' - US athlete style) during a parole violation hearing and got 30 days for contempt.

[unstuck]

Much hyped NFL wide receiver. Famous mostly for changing his name by deed poll to Chad Ochocinco. His football number 85 in Spanish.

Patted his attorney on the arse (as in 'well done' - US athlete style) during a parole violation hearing and got 30 days for contempt.

:killingme:killingme:killingme Fuck, I like him already. Maybe I should of tried patting the judges arse. Can they lock you up for contempt of court over here. I know I got thrown in the holding cells for most of the day once because I asked the judge if his wife was not giving him any, what a sour prick he was.:mad:

[Akzle]

:killingme:killingme:killingme Fuck, I like him already. Maybe I should of tried patting the judges arse. Can they lock you up for contempt of court over here. I know I got thrown in the holding cells for most of the day once because I asked the judge if his wife was not giving him any, what a sour prick he was.:mad:

contempt is interesting. look it up.
Better not to accept joinder to the person, or jurisdiction of the court.

[Wingnut]

I am looking at home detention for 3 dope plants too,

Excuse my ignorance but are there any specific reasons where you can actually leave home whilst on home detention?

[scumdog]

Excuse my ignorance but are there any specific reasons where you can actually leave home whilst on home detention?

Yep - if you die!:lol::rofl::shutup::whistle:

[unstuck]

So if I stand outside my house and let the braclet go off, the cops will turn up right? So can I then ask them to run down the shop and get me some milk and bread, cos obviously I cannot go my self. I imagine that sort of thing could get you a stay at the hilton in milton. Surely they would let me out to work? Seems a bit silly if I have to give up my job to do home D.:scratch: The ones at the courthouse who had their pants hanging round their thighs and shirts all ripped and shit, with no apparent respect for themselves or anyone else, seemed to get the best treatment from his lordshit. The whole thing has been an eye opener for sure, the last time I was in court It was, stand in the dock, guilty yer honour, fined xxxx, see ya later.:yes: Its a funny old world, but I love it.:lol:

[scissorhands]

What about an insanity plea? I've been working on mine:banana:

[unstuck]

What about an insanity plea? I've been working on mine:banana:

Yeah, but then I would have to have a stay at the funny farm, and that aint funny. :drool::crazy:

[xXGIBBOXx]

Just poped in to see why was still going , if you are looking at home d , you can get 7pm to 7am lock down . The bro did it that way . Still had the bling on his leg . We could still get on the piss in the shed just not on one side ( they mark out your property line . )

[unstuck]

Just poped in to see why was still going , if you are looking at home d , you can get 7pm to 7am lock down . The bro did it that way . Still had the bling on his leg . We could still get on the piss in the shed just not on one side ( they mark out your property line . )

That fucks me for work then, especially if im up the coast for a few days.:killingme They seem to be giving out an awful lot of these bracelet thingys around here. I thought it would of been a lot simpler and less expensive to pay a fine and be done with it, but the way this is going just seems to be sucking up taxpayer dollars like water. If I Pay a fine, they are getting income. OR.... They Give me all the counselling, probation reports, court appearances, home D monotoring and the rest of whatever they have planned, and I would think it is quite a tidy sum.:crazy: I apologise NZ, for my stupidity and the drain I will cause on our tax dollars that could be spent on something a little more worthwhile.:Oops:

[xXGIBBOXx]

But that's to easy and half of them would miss out on their cut . Well that's the way I seems ( the bro home d was for driving shit ) to set it we had 5 people in and out of the house for a week checking shit taking notes and jazz . Hope for the best , but because you work its going the be a cunt and a half

[Akzle]

theyre stocking up on tracking devices and getting people used to it.
Also, slightly cheaper than real jail.

Seen the movie fortress?

[unstuck]

Seen the movie fortress?

Nope, sounds boring.:yawn: These bracelet things work on body heat is that right? And gps too? Suppose I better google the things.:whistle:

[Akzle]

Nope, sounds boring.:yawn: These bracelet things work on body heat is that right? And gps too? Suppose I better google the things.:whistle:

innt they wifi'd to your phone line?
Shift the microwave closer to thd box and run it.

All the time.

[unstuck]

innt they wifi'd to your phone line?
Shift the microwave closer to thd box and run it.

All the time.

The microwave is something I am not allowed to touch.:Oops:

What if you have no phone line?

[Akzle]

The microwave is something I am not allowed to touch.:Oops:

What if you have no phone line?

no microwave? What about your right to popcorn?!

unless youre some kind of pikie fuck living in a caravan, you have the wiring, even if not connected.
More interesting if you used both lines coming into your house. But i suppose their unit could modulate adsl styles.
They could probably go cellular now daze, tamperproof bolt it to your joists...

[Akzle]

and if you were a pikie fuck theyd force you to move.
Yay democracy!

[unstuck]

Have a microwave but keep breaking them trying to heat shit up for my shed, so not allowed to touch it.:oi-grr: Dont do a lot of popcorn, being a hillbillie with fuck all teeth kinda robs the fun out of it.

[Wingnut]

Yep - if you die!:lol::rofl::shutup::whistle:

Just wondering how it the system caters for people in employment is all?

[Akzle]

Just wondering how it the system caters for people in employment is all?

surely noone employed is a criminal??

with conditions, you're allowed out. it's basically a curfew. ie home by 7.
your proby may also breath or drug est you, as part of the conditions.

[unstuck]

Went for a fang on the DR along Wakapatu beach today, and gave the situation a bit of thought and all I keep getting is:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killing me:killingme:killingme:killingme

[Katman]

Here you go Ed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7xPmR8j4plw#at=170

[unstuck]

Here you go Ed.

But the stuff is EVIL....it turns you into a drain on the taxpayer. Oh wait, NO, thats the JUSTICE system.:laugh::laugh:

[scissorhands]

TV3 3rd degree tonight 8.30pm is about canna-business
and the billions of dollars of revenue.....

TV3's 3rd Degree to feature Cannabis Mums of Beverly Hills


Should New Zealand legalise pot for medicinal use? Across the Pacific, there’s a billion dollar industry growing in California – and it’s all legal. Sarah Hall takes a peek inside the pot-shops of Los Angeles and meets up with Cheryl Shuman - the “Martha Stewart of Marijuana” making millions from the cannabis boom.
- See more at: http://alcp.org.nz/vote2014/#sthash.rQ1jdRen.dpuf



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIzp0II3j88

[unstuck]

200 hrs pd and 9 months supervision.:msn-wink:

And I get to pick up rubbish for my pd, whoop whoop.:banana::banana::killingme

[Banditbandit]

200 hrs pd and 9 months supervision.:msn-wink:

And I get to pick up rubbish for my pd, whoop whoop.:banana::banana::killingme

It's the supervision that would get me .. nine months of being told when to fart and how high to jump .. fuck'em ..

[unstuck]

It's the supervision that would get me .. nine months of being told when to fart and how high to jump .. fuck'em ..

Supervision is just a 30 min meeting once a fortnight.:lol:
And I have to have drug and alcohol counseling once a week too, even though the counselor thinks its a waste of time.:wacko::brick:

[Banditbandit]

Yeah - counsellors never like court-ordered counselling - they know you're probably not serious .. and it wastes their time

[unstuck]

Yeah - counsellors never like court-ordered counselling - they know you're probably not serious .. and it wastes their time

I think its more the fact that weed aint really a problem for me, I can take it or leave it. I like a good smoke every now and then, but I certainly don't become a blithering mess if I don't have any. The justice department questionare makes me an addict, but the councilors questionare makes me an occasional user with no addiction.:wacko:

[Mushu]

I think its more the fact that weed aint really a problem for me, I can take it or leave it. I like a good smoke every now and then, but I certainly don't become a blithering mess if I don't have any. The justice department questionare makes me an addict, but the councilors questionare makes me an occasional user with no addiction.:wacko:

For anybody who thinks weed is terrible and addictive, I've been back smoking it daily for about 2 months but am currently in a very small town in Australia for a family thing and have been there for a week having no weed and zero ill effects, so how is it addictive, I miss my bikes more than my bong at this point.

[unstuck]

Some people get addicted to it and get all depressed and shit when they cant get it, I can understand that because I have been that way myself in the past. Is everyone who likes a beer or two after work or at a function an alcoholic? The law is an ASS when it comes to cannabis IMO, alcohol causes far more problems for society than dope, yet they allow it to be advertised on tv and other places. Stupid humans.:mad:

[Madness]

And so it begins...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/9572006/Long-queues-to-buy-Colorados-legal-marijuana

[mashman]

And so it begins...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/9572006/Long-queues-to-buy-Colorados-legal-marijuana

What does? Holidays in Colorado? The sniffer dogs at the airport'll be going ape shit when that flight arrives back in NZ. I can't see the puritanical NZer going for it for some unknown reason... we should know our place and know that unleashing such policy on this country would destroy it. It'd be reefer madness, Madness.

[Madness]

It'd be reefer madness, Madness.

Looks like you were right Mashy...

http://dailycurrant.com/2014/01/02/marijuana-overdoses-kill-37-in-colorado-on-first-day-of-legalization/

[Laava]

Looks like you were right Mashy...

http://dailycurrant.com/2014/01/02/marijuana-overdoses-kill-37-in-colorado-on-first-day-of-legalization/

bahahaha, good laugh thanks!

[unstuck]

bahahaha, good laugh thanks!

Dude who wrote that, was smoking too many currants methinks. :msn-wink:

[Mushu]

Looks like you were right Mashy...

http://dailycurrant.com/2014/01/02/marijuana-overdoses-kill-37-in-colorado-on-first-day-of-legalization/

lol nice Breaking Bad reference thrown in there. I'll be willing to bet that someone will take that article seriously and use it as proof that cannabis will destroy the world if legalized.

Pity I could never get a visa for America, I'd be on my way Denver right now.

[Edbear]

lol nice Breaking Bad reference thrown in there. I'll be willing to bet that someone will take that article seriously and use it as proof that cannabis will destroy the world if legalized.

Pity I could never get a visa for America, I'd be on my way Denver right now.

Why can't you?

[Akzle]

Why can't you?

minor drug conviction. My guess.