MotoGP 2016

[Oscar]

Damn straight. Never won a single race in real life! Oh no...that'd be you.:innocent:

So it's a dick measuring competition is it?









































































I'll have to concede that one, you are by far the bigger dick.

[Crasherfromwayback]

l have to concede that one, you are by far the bigger dick.

Whaaaaaa....whaaaaaaa. I'm so hurt.:weep:

You love to break out the insults and shit slinging, but certainly don't like it back. Just like your BF. Silly Old Poof.

[Oscar]

Whaaaaaa....whaaaaaaa. I'm so hurt.:weep:

You love to break out the insults and shit slinging, but certainly don't like it back. Just like your BF. Silly Old Poof.

As long as you keep adding substance to this thread with your vast knowledge of motorcycle racing...



...no, wait a minute...






....you're just here to bitch about VR and call people cunts.

[Hemi Makutu]

Will the Moto 2 machines at Phillip Island this week,
- finally be able to beat poor old Simmo's nearly decade old G.P. 250 P.Is quickest lap time?

Seems really lame, that they haven't yet done a sub 1.32 lap there.

[pritch]

Hemi, your KB name reminds me of an ad that appeared in 'The Northern Advocate' a few decades ago. The ad appealed to me.
" To the person who stole the oysters from such and such Bay, the makutu is on you."

[Crasherfromwayback]

....you're just here to bitch about VR and call people cunts.

And you're such a simple cunt, that has also done not a thing of note, that you don't understand how hypocritical that comment is. Apart from big noting 'bout Mike Webb. Whoa!!! Impressive!!!!

[BMWST?]

MM will win or bin it

[george formby]

MM will win or bin it

If it's rain, hail and shine I would have to be looking sideways at Ye Olde VR. He seems to have a good handle at PI when it's inclement. Er, usually. First time for awhile on French tires, I think that will be a big factor. Brains not balls for the win if the seagulls are flapping like hell and going nowhere.

[BMWST?]

If it's rain, hail and shine I would have to be looking sideways at Ye Olde VR. He seems to have a good handle at PI when it's inclement. Er, usually. First time for awhile on French tires, I think that will be a big factor. Brains not balls for the win if the seagulls are flapping like hell and going nowhere.

MM has nothing to lose,and maybe an itch to scratch

[pritch]

Random suggestion: Barbera will get over excited about having top class machinery and take somebody out with him. Or not. :scratch:

The forecast is still not great, particularly for Friday.

[BMWST?]

Random suggestion: Barbera will get over excited about having top class machinery and take somebody out with him. Or not. :scratch:

The forecast is still not great, particularly for Friday.
Will Nicky hayden be inside the top 10?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Listen to you guys! All having an opinion...like you're entitled to one!!! Like grizzled old racers.

Oscar will be here shortly to tell you why he's the only one that can have one. Because he knows Mike Webb.

[Crasherfromwayback]

MM will win it

$2.25 at the TAB. Bet your house on it.

[Berries]

Hemi, your KB name reminds me of an ad that appeared in 'The Northern Advocate' a few decades ago. The ad appealed to me.
" To the person who stole the oysters from such and such Bay, the makutu is on you."
Jeez, you calling her a thief?

[pritch]

Jeez, you calling her a thief?

No, unless it was Hemi who stole the oysters 40 odd years ago. :innocent:

[Oscar]

And you're such a simple cunt, that has also done not a thing of note,


Oh no! An unemployed bike salesman on the internet whom I've never met is impugning my self worth and credibility.....

Whatever shall I do...?:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:





Seriously, Sport - you should chill the fuck out. Your hysterical reaction to any bait with VR on it is getting embarrassing.

[roogazza]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2016/Oct/161019gardner.htm

Stroppy little Aussie ? Driving in traffic is still the easiest place to get into punchups :shit:

[Oscar]

A coupla pics from last time...

https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/MotoGP/2015-Aussie-MotoGP/i-BXF5Kwv/0/X2/Seagull-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/MotoGP/2015-Aussie-MotoGP/i-Xj6WjW7/0/X2/mm-X2.jpg

The last one nearly cost me my hearing (I forgot my earplugs).

[EJK]

I miss that seagull. Also last year's PI race was awesome! Double overtake by Iannone is something I'll never forget.

[Oscar]

I miss that seagull. Also last year's PI race was awesome! Double overtake by Iannone is something I'll never forget.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/MotoGP/2015-Aussie-MotoGP/i-Fcx6bwN/0/X2/Seagull%202-X2.jpg

Let's have a moment's silence.

I thought the way they left his head on the track was a bit tacky...

[Oscar]

https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/MotoGP/2015-Aussie-MotoGP/i-Kh5fckC/0/X2/JL-X2.jpg

How's Georgie gonna go?

[EJK]

Wait, you took those photos? :shit:

[Oscar]

Wait, you took those photos? :shit:

Yup.
I have to admit that at least one of them has been cropped and enhanced, and the one of Joe and the Seagull I almost deleted, coz I couldn't see the detail on the screen of my camera and I thought it was badly composed...

[EJK]

Yup.
I have to admit that at least one of them has been cropped and enhanced, and the one of Joe and the Seagull I almost deleted, coz I couldn't see the detail on the screen of my camera and I thought it was badly composed...

Well, didn't you get the best seat in the house. No I'm not jealous, at all.

[Drew]

Well, didn't you get the best seat in the house. No I'm not jealous, at all.

You can marshal the event really easily if ya wanna get that close.

[Oscar]

You can marshal the event really easily if ya wanna get that close.

+1000

Marshals are the unsung heros of motorcycle racing.

[EJK]

+1000

Marshals are the unsung heros of motorcycle racing.

Have you seen the Japanese flag marshals? :laugh:

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[pritch]

When I saw the seagull incident I was hoping that was karma at work and that was the same seagull that ate Lorenzo's finger.

I'm a bit jealous of those pics cause all mine (including my avatar) were taken from the outside of the track.

Funny thing, well Australian thing really. During practice the crowd was several people deep all around the track but there was a stretch of a good hundred metres with nobody there at the start of the final turn. I looked around and couldn't see any signs so I started taking photos, all the while expecting to be told to move. When I got back to the Honda marquee I had a look at the track map. The area I had been standing was the "alcohol free zone".

Last time there was another grandstand at that spot.

[Oscar]

When I saw the seagull incident I was hoping that was karma at work and that was the same seagull that ate Lorenzo's finger.

I'm a bit jealous of those pics cause all mine (including my avatar) were taken from the outside of the track.

Funny thing, well Australian thing really. During practice the crowd was several people deep all around the track but there was a stretch of a good hundred metres with nobody there at the start of the final turn. I looked around and couldn't see any signs so I started taking photos, all the while expecting to be told to move. When I got back to the Honda marquee I had a look at the track map. The area I had been standing was the "alcohol free zone".

Last time there was another grandstand at that spot.

I have spent some time in your alcohol free zone without realising what it was.
We usually base ourselves on the other side of that marquee on the inside of the second to last corner - "Teams Viewing Area" (which is a whole lot less grand than it sounds).
Then, depending on the type of pass I've been able to scag, we starting exploring the outer limits - "lively" discussions with security often ensue...

[Oscar]

Have you seen the Japanese flag marshals? :laugh:

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"you must spread some Reputation around before giving it to EJK again."

Awesome.
We're running a national this season - I'm taking that to the next organising meeting!!

[Autech]

"you must spread some Reputation around before giving it to EJK again."

Awesome.
We're running a national this season - I'm taking that to the next organising meeting!!

Yup I want to see the MCI flaggies rocking out like this at my next race. In fact I am about to put this on the FB page so they know the international standard.

[speights_bud]

You can marshal the event really easily if ya wanna get that close.


Well, didn't you get the best seat in the house. No I'm not jealous, at all.

Yup, even on the weekend they are looking for extras to help out. I spent a weekend on the outside of Siberia a few years ago. Got right under the podium after the race and could taste the Champagne in the air. The key is to keep your camera in your pocket, head down and look official. The pit lane security let us straight in and even apologized for having the gate shut haha.

If you are inerested hop onto motorcycling Australia's website and apply for next year. They provide free camping space and lunch, with a dinner BBQ and beers on most nights. The rest is up to you.

[speights_bud]

....you're just here to bitch about VR and call people cunts.

Hey! some of us are ok with that, in fact it might even be half the reason we visit this thread!

[EJK]

Yup, even on the weekend they are looking for extras to help out. I spent a weekend on the outside of Siberia a few years ago. Got right under the podium after the race and could taste the Champagne in the air. The key is to keep your camera in your pocket, head down and look official. The pit lane security let us straight in and even apologized for having the gate shut haha.

If you are inerested hop onto motorcycling Australia's website and apply for next year. They provide free camping space and lunch, with a dinner BBQ and beers on most nights. The rest is up to you.

Cheers, better start practicing my flag waiving skills.

[speights_bud]

Cheers, better start practicing my flag waiving skills.

Flag and crash crews are separate teams, as are bike recovery. You get some choice as to where you work (previous experience at c;ub level etc helps). Turn 10 points at phillip Island got the most action when I was there. Although when Dani threw it away (in the southern loop I think) one of the crash crew guys got 3rd degree burns on his thumb and finger. Picked up a rogue brake pad off the track that was fairly warm. One of the boys even souvineered it for him, he passed it around while we had a beer one evening. It weighed almost nothing :drool:

The Paramedic chicks are on point :love: that is until some of them Aussie girls start talking :facepalm:

Some snaps from my trip, I've put these up before but just in case you needed convincing for next year...

[EJK]

Flag and crash crews are separate teams, as are bike recovery. You get some choice as to where you work (previous experience at c;ub level etc helps). Turn 10 points at phillip Island got the most action when I was there. Although when Dani threw it away (in the southern loop I think) one of the crash crew guys got 3rd degree burns on his thumb and finger. Picked up a rogue brake pad off the track that was fairly warm. One of the boys even souvineered it for him, he passed it around while we had a beer one evening. It weighed almost nothing :drool:

The Paramedic chicks are on point :love: that is until some of them Aussie girls start talking :facepalm:

Some snaps from my trip, I've put these up before but just in case you needed convincing for next year...

2013? Wow, that does look like a real memorable once-in-a-lifetime weekend!

[speights_bud]

2013? Wow, that does look like a real memorable once-in-a-lifetime weekend!

Sure was, couldn't believe when I saw the black flag's coming out for the pit change mistakes :( The key is to befriend the big Island boys on the camp security, then they'll give you the first selection of beer from the confiscated pile and drive you anywhere in their golf cart, including pit lane :laugh:.

[Dadpole]

A little conundrum for Suzuki. It seems that another podium this year means they will lose any extra concessions that allow them to develop their engine and more freedom to test during next season.

[ecko_nzed]

Can't see there 2 current riders being too concerned about that if they have a chance of a podium.

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[Black Knight]

An Oz mate just e-mailed me with the latest weather-not looking good guys-thunderstorms and hail-oh well.

[pritch]

There's serious whinging about the weather at PI, with suggestions being made by all and sundry that the race needs to be moved to the start of the season. Of course they aren't aware of, or couldn't care about, the WSBK race which would need to be moved, or the Formula 1 race which would be a competing attraction.

David Emmetts look at prospects: https://motomatters.com/analysis/2016/10/20/2016_phillip_island_motogp_preview_a.html

Back to the future? This from 2006, #69 in the Repsol box.

[roogazza]

There's serious whinging about the weather at PI, with suggestions being made by all and sundry that the race needs to be moved to the start of the season. Of course they aren't aware of, or couldn't care about, the WSBK race which would need to be moved, or the Formula 1 race which would be a competing attraction.

Moving it would be great pritch,its a prick of a place for weather.
Let them move F1 too as they love their pit stops n shit.(who cares !)
Americans flag racing in the rain,which ain't a bad idea but not practical for television.
I'd be pissed to fly off to a GP only to have it flagged,it makes it an expensive exercise.

That said on a lovely day P.I. is a pretty place. :rolleyes:

[Dadpole]

Currently cold and a wet track, but a bit of sun appearing. Probably due for hail next.

[Dadpole]

And - the rain flag is out...

[Dadpole]

FP3 Drying track and dark clouds overhead. Who would want to be a GP rider?

[Dadpole]

And... The rain in Spain is falling at Phillip Island.

[Moise]

An Oz mate just e-mailed me with the latest weather-not looking good guys-thunderstorms and hail-oh well.
Forecast for the race is dry, but that may be the first time they run slicks all weekend.

Pleased I didn't go this year.

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Oh no! An unemployed bike salesman on the internet whom I've never met is impugning my self worth and credibility.....

Whatever shall I do...?:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Seriously, Sport - you should chill the fuck out. Your hysterical reaction to any bait with VR on it is getting embarrassing.

Never been unemployed for a day of my life you docile old cunt. Still being head hunted by other shops to this day. And bait? You simply get bitchier, and more personal every time you're up against it. From the very moment Stoner came onto the scene, gave your BF a hiding...you've had this massive chip on your shoulder ever since I stated that *Stoner is the fastest guy I've ever seen on a Moto GP bike!*

"No he isn't" you cried (and are still crying about). Rossi is! He's won more races you said. Used all sorts of stats to try and back you and hence, win a losing argument. But as time went by, and the stats even turned Stoners way...no...you still weren't even close to man enough to admit that yes, Stoner was indeed faster on a Moto GP bike. I was right...you were wrong. But to this day, you can't admit it. So Stoner was my BF, and Rossi never yours (Hypocrisy is incredibly feeble).

But the main difference between you and I Oscar? You don't have to go back that many posts of mine...to see my actually praising Rossi and his skill set. Yes I think he's a fuckwit. But I've never been shy in saying how good the guy is on a motorcycle.

You should try it sometimes. Who knows, you may even one day admit, that MM is the new Stoner. But I fucking doubt that.

Meantime...here's a lil Sat reading for your pleasure.

http://superbikeplanet.com/2016/Oct/161021mknsxza.htm

[Oscar]

Never been unemployed for a day of my life you docile old cunt. Still being head hunted by other shops to this day. And bait? You simply get bitchier, and more personal every time you're up against it. From the very moment Stoner came onto the scene, gave your BF a hiding...you've had this massive chip on your shoulder ever since I stated that *Stoner is the fastest guy I've ever seen on a Moto GP bike!*

"No he isn't" you cried (and are still crying about). Rossi is! He's won more races you said. Used all sorts of stats to try and back you and hence, win a losing argument. But as time went by, and the stats even turned Stoners way...no...you still weren't even close to man enough to admit that yes, Stoner was indeed faster on a Moto GP bike. I was right...you were wrong. But to this day, you can't admit it. So Stoner was my BF, and Rossi never yours (Hypocrisy is incredibly feeble).

But the main difference between you and I Oscar? You don't have to go back that many posts of mine...to see my actually praising Rossi and his skill set. Yes I think he's a fuckwit. But I've never been shy in saying how good the guy is on a motorcycle.

You should try it sometimes. Who knows, you may even one day admit, that MM is the new Stoner. But I fucking doubt that.

Meantime...here's a lil Sat reading for your pleasure.

http://superbikeplanet.com/2016/Oct/161021mknsxza.htm

As I said, chill out - it's the internet.

[Crasherfromwayback]

As I said, chill out - it's the internet.

Well...if you wanna make claims that I'm a full of shit cunt, talk a good race etc etc...expect some backlash. Simple as that. Don't forget...it's only the internet :facepalm:. So we (all of us on this site, and this thread especially), have our opinions. You wanna get all personal and bitchy because I express mine...that's cool. But as I say, don't go crying when you get it back.

The (never been in my life) unemployed salesman, qualified Mechanic. :msn-wink:

[Luckylegs]

...Still being head hunted by other shops to this day...

Starbucks and other fine coffee establishments...?




Note: For all the coffee bores out there. No I don't think Starbucks is a particularly wonderful coffee experience

[Oscar]

Well...if you wanna make claims that I'm a full of shit cunt, talk a good race etc etc...expect some backlash. Simple as that. Don't forget...it's only the internet :facepalm:. So we (all of us on this site, and this thread especially), have our opinions. You wanna get all personal and bitchy because I express mine...that's cool. But as I say, don't go crying when you get it back.

The (never been in my life) unemployed salesman, qualified Mechanic. :msn-wink:

Man, you should really switch to decaf.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Starbucks and other fine coffee establishments...?


Hate to take your job off you.


Man, you should really switch to decaf.

Don't do coffee. You should try accepting there are guys out there faster than Rossi now (and have been for a while).

[Luckylegs]

Hate to take your job off you.

Jeebus, I couldn't make a good coffee to save myself - My job is drinking it all day (while staring at my office cubicle walls. I'll just leave you taking steinlagers off me. Melandri back 2017 - what odds you putting on that (for another bet). Maybe worth picking up that convo in the WSBK thread!

Regards
PEANUT

[Crasherfromwayback]

Jeebus, I couldn't make a good coffee to save myself - My job is drinking it all day (while staring at my office cubicle walls. I'll just leave you taking steinlagers off me. Melandri back 2017 - what odds you putting on that (for another bet). Maybe worth picking up that convo in the WSBK thread!

Regards
PEANUT

Yeah. For some reason...your Steinies taste better than the ones I buy. :shifty:

[Oscar]

Don't do coffee. You should try accepting there are guys out there faster than Rossi now (and have been for a while).

Actually if you have a look earlier in this thread you should see me picking DP for the title.
You should probably consider that:


People move on.
Sometimes people don't mean what they say online.
You are very easy to wind up.
If you call people people "cunts" as much as you do, then you shouldn't be surprised when they call you names back.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuck me the weather is miserable again today. Red flagged Moto GP session 4. Poor cunts.

[Hemi Makutu]

Q done on a drying track, M.M. on slicks, got down to 1min & a 1/2, flat, for pole from crasher Cal..
The Asparagus bros helped each other riding echelon to pip local hero Mad Jack for a front row gig...

V.R. starts from 15th, due to his 'safety' infringements..

[Dadpole]

V.R. starts from 15th, due to his 'safety' infringements..

He starts from 15th for farting about with tyre changes in FP4

Edit - I mean Q1 of course.

[Crasherfromwayback]

V.R. starts from 15th, due to his 'safety' infringements..

That's ok. MM got DQed from the race for the same thing two years back.

[pritch]

Michelin took an extra extra soft rain tyre to PI in case of cold temperaturess. This tyre could never be a race length tyre and some thought that in that case it shouldn't even be there.

That tyre though is there for exactly the kind of weather that has happened yesterday and today. Due to concerns as to how long the tyre would last a conservative limit was set; maximum 10 laps IIRC? Rossi was enjoying himself, or whatever, and exceeded the 10 laps so all of his times were discarded.

I hope it's dry for the race though, the only thing we know for certain is that they won't be using that tyre.

As someone else said, Id rather be here tomorrow than at Phillip Island, must get some beer in... :drinkup:

[AllanB]

Arses are out to deny VR another championship as they did last year. May they contract a very severe dose of the crabs.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Arses are out to deny VR another championship as they did last year. May they contract a very severe dose of the crabs.

Lol. Think his several biffs of his own doing had seen to that long ago mate.

[malcy25]

That's ok. MM got DQed from the race for the same thing two years back.

As soon as I heard why, I thought There was no way Rossi could avoid that DQ when MM got red flagged out of the race in 2013 for the same.....

[Crasherfromwayback]

2013 for the same.....

Ahhh...13!

[pritch]

Apart from MM on pole that's an unusual looking grid. I hope it's going to be a good race but with a head start like that Marquez might disappear.

Ah well, it's a nice day so meantime I'm off up the Forgotten World Highway...

[BMWST?]

something like this? Nice

[pritch]

something like this? Nice

That's a bit more imaginative than my effort. NP - Stratford - Whangamomona. Beer, burger and return.

The pub staff were running off their feet, there were maybe twenty old yank tanks like 60s Thunderbirds, Corvettes, etc as well as several groups of bikes including Taranaki and North Habrbour Ulysses.

Now to the racing...

[Hemi Makutu]

Shortened to 10 laps for restart..

Adit: Sarfie new world champ Binder took it.

Weather is good, but there's a couple of hours to go 'til Moto 1...

[Maha]

He starts from 15th for farting about with tyre changes in FP4

Edit - I mean Q1 of course.

So look forward to at least a podium finish then?.... tis on soon.

[Hemi Makutu]

M.M. just threw it away, while ahead by a country mile - front end lose,
at the same right hand turn (4) where he'd done it before..

Michelin technical race-boss admitted that the front is their issue, ( & that P.Is is a real bastard to 2nd guess)..
both with the porky 4Ts, & choosing 17in tyres as - a commercial call.

Cal now inherits the lead by 3.5 secs, but V.R. is looming, having cut through the field..

[WNJ]

MM out DNF

[Hemi Makutu]

A. Sparagus just did a turn 4 front-end off, with 4 laps to go,
V.R. has cooled it, so its Cal's to win, or lose, now..

[Hemi Makutu]

Pomgolians will cream themselves over this..

Mad Jack stomped the KY-kid out of the way in yes, turn 4, for 10th! 'Move it or lose it, factory-bitch'
Hilarious..

V.R. earned the arse-grab from his long-term squeeze..

Sparraguts II got 3rd..

Lozenge finished ~20 seconds back..

[onearmedbandit]

Great race, rapt for Cal and LCR.

[Hemi Makutu]

He admits he was "terrified" when he saw M.M. drop it,
but says he felt "confident" he could've beaten him, anyhow..

He's the 1st Pom since Bazza in `79 to have won two big 'uns in a season.

1st 'down the road - racing incident' for M.M. this year too..

[BMWST?]

well there is still interest for me in the final points standings....if the weather is at all dodgy in the remaining two events george could still lose third in the standings to MVand Dani could lose out to Cal and Dovi

[ellipsis]

...MM was crowned, big cheese, last week, this week was secondary entertainment...and that is what it was, to the max...the old cunt hung in, the pom took it out, and the others had a fucking good race...

[pritch]

Lots of interest in that.

Rossi went through the field like a dose of salts. Amazing performance for a guy that some of you were saying recently was past it and going to quit. Apparently y'all forgot he was leading the championship last year until the final round. Without checking, I'd guess that most years he didn't win the title he was second. He may yet be second again this year.

Crutchlow is another who seems under appreciated hereabout. Rossi demolished the rest of the field but he couldn't match Crutchlow. According to the pundits Honda are known to seek and to value the opinions of Crutchlow.

Jack Miller may be slightly less appreciated by Honda tonight after taking down their remaining factory rider.

Marquez may be a riding deity but even he can commit unforced errors.

The Moto2 championship is still alive and Luthi has a good record at Sepang.

Bring it on.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hats off to Crutchlow! I may even owe someone beer? Awesome ride by him...and even more so by Rossi to come from 15th!

MM lost me my money at the TAB. Stupid cunt.

Be great to see CC get amongst the regulars next year, even though I never thought I'd see the day.

[EJK]

MM out DNF

Spot the Rossi cultist fanboy.

Meanwhile, Iannone must be like... "Damn it Barbera, stop crashing my bike!




...That's my job!"

[Maha]

I would money on a podium finish for Rossi even if he were to start from 20th... not forgetting Vinales finishing 3rd from grid position 13.

[Autech]

Some horrible crashes in Moto3.
Moto2 was actually worth watching, hope Luthi snatches the crown from Zarco, he's been close many times.
Shame asparagus buffed it, he was looking good. Shame he's only just got the bike sussed and will say goodbye to it next year.


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[speights_bud]

Hats off to Crutchlow!...

... Be great to see CC get amongst the regulars next year, even though I never thought I'd see the day.


I have to say it's been tough backing him, but I've been hoping he'd come good. He's the Mrs favourite.

Looks like he's started to get the package working a bit better for him.

So who's going to get Dan's seat when it comes up eventually? Miller or Crutchlow. Not sure what the feeling at Honda must be like for miller?

[Moise]

I have to say it's been tough backing him, but I've been hoping he'd come good. He's the Mrs favourite.

Looks like he's started to get the package working a bit better for him.

So who's going to get Dan's seat when it comes up eventually? Miller or Crutchlow. Not sure what the feeling at Honda must be like for miller?
They'll want someone who can score points regularly, as winning the manufacturer's title is very important to the Jap teams. Yes, they'll be very pissed off with Miller taking out Nicky when he was poised to score some good points.

I wouldn't be surprised if next year is Dani's last year, unless he can get the Michelins to work for him.

[Drew]

So that's it for Suzuki's testing/development consessions. The bike is proven and competitive, Iannone for a podium championship next year!

[pritch]

So who's going to get Dan's seat when it comes up eventually? Miller or Crutchlow.

The Poms on Twitter were vocal with the idea that it shoulda been CC who got Pedro's bike at PI. Crutchlow is sponsored by Monster, Team Repsol by Red Bull so no chance of that.

Wouldn't have made much difference anyway Crutchlow's bike is now apparently very little different to the Repsol bikes.

[pritch]

So that's it for Suzuki's testing/development consessions. The bike is proven and competitive, Iannone for a podium championship next year!

As Oxley and others were saying though, Phillip Island is more about riders than bikes. Bravery and skill on the part of the rider play a bigger part there. So the finishing order of the riders is a better indication than the finishing order of the machinery.

Which is not to say that iannone will not be competitive on the Suzuki. The more at the sharp end, the betterer for us.

[Dadpole]

If I had a pick before the race it could only have been MM. Just shows what I know.

Crutchlow deserved that win. Didn't put a foot wrong and had speed and confidence all weekend. VR and Vinales coming through from the back(ish) made for an entertaining race. Moto2 and 3 were brilliant (except for the nasty crashes and "bumping" off track)

Roll on Sepang. Marquez for pole anyone?

[Autech]

I wouldn't be surprised if next year is Dani's last year, unless he can get the Michelins to work for him.

He's signed till end of 2018 dude, considering he was the favourite to win at Motegi before he crashed I would think he's got them working now.

Crutchlow is too old and not as fast as Dani so I highly doubt he would be taking in his seat. Miller or Rins are my picks. Rabat hasn't shown any signs of stepping up yet unfortunately


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[Oscar]

If I had a pick before the race it could only have been MM. Just shows what I know.

Crutchlow deserved that win. Didn't put a foot wrong and had speed and confidence all weekend. VR and Vinales coming through from the back(ish) made for an entertaining race. Moto2 and 3 were brilliant (except for the nasty crashes and "bumping" off track)

Roll on Sepang. Marquez for pole anyone?


Meh - I was going to pick JL, but I had no funds in my TAB account.
I took that as a warning...

[FROSTY]

Am I remembering wrong or does CC always do well on a wet/damp track?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Am I remembering wrong or does CC always do well on a wet/damp track?

The track was as dry as yesterday.

[speights_bud]

The Poms on Twitter were vocal with the idea that it shoulda been CC who got Pedro's bike at PI. Crutchlow is sponsored by Monster, Team Repsol by Red Bull so no chance of that.

Wouldn't have made much difference anyway Crutchlow's bike is now apparently very little different to the Repsol bikes.
Also Harris I think mentioned that CC is contracted to LCR, not Honda.

[pritch]

Am I remembering wrong or does CC always do well on a wet/damp track?

Remembering wrong.


Somebody posted a list on Twitter this morning, a short list; Brits who have won two or more premier class GPs in a season.

The list looked something like this:

Les Graham
Geoff Duke
John Surtees
Mike Hailwood
Phil Read
Barry Sheene
Cal Crutchlow


Crutchlow probably won't be too offended to be added to that list.


(Added Phil Read)

[Moise]

Doesn't mean he can't decide to retire. But who knows, after the way this season has gone he could win the last 2 races.

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[husaberg]

Remembering wrong.


Somebody posted a list on Twitter this morning, a short list; Brits who have won two or more premier class GPs in a season.

The list looked something like this:

Les Graham
Geoff Duke
John Surtees
Mike Hailwood
Barry Sheene
Cal Crutchlow

If I have missed a name, feel free to add it. *

Crutchlow probably won't be too offended to be added to that list.


* Added it myself.

Bill Ivy
He did it at least 4 times. inc 8 in a season in one class.

Dave Simmonds 8 in a season one class.

Fergus Anderson
three times.

Cecil Sandford
twice

Bob McIntyre
once

whoops premier class missed that bit
So Phil Read thats one anyway (always thought he was a SAFFA)

[pritch]

So Phil Read thats one anyway

I think you're right. I'll add him to the list. Right now I can't find confirmation, but it was a very short list and I think we have it now.

There was an interview with Read, complete with fag hanging out of his face, in BIKE only a few years ago. Apparently he was still doing local races.

[husaberg]

I think you're right. I'll add him to the list. Right now I can't find confirmation, but it was a very short list and I think we have it now.

There was an interview with Read, complete with fag hanging out of his face, in BIKE only a few years ago. Apparently he was still doing local races.

He was never that popular though.
Hailwood psychologically destroyed him by passing him on the first lap (Read had a 50 second lead in starting position)
Beat him at his own game, considering he was rather prone to the mind games.
If you think really about it, if you factor in Grahams ,Duke, Surtess and Ago and Hailwords dominence in the 50-60-70s it would be bloody hard for someone out of that group to win a 500GP at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Read
73.74,75

[pritch]

if you factor in Grahams ,Duke, Surtess and Ago and Hailwords dominence in the 50-60-70s it would be bloody hard for someone out of that group to win a 500GP at all.


The commonwealth riders were very strong in most classes in the sixties. Gary Hocking won a 500cc world title before his early retirement. Hailwood and then Agostini had the only factory bikes in the class and dominated completely for some years.

[roogazza]

So, Sepang next,I would expect a more normal result ?
Certainly has been a funny old year,with Tyres,Temps and Weather,affecting the results.

Go Vale !!!!

[EJK]

So, Sepang next,I would expect a more normal result ?
Certainly has been a funny old year,with Tyres,Temps and Weather,affecting the results.

Go Vale !!!!

Already two more races left this season? :(

I wonder how Lorenzo will do at Sepang. Looking forward to FP.

[roogazza]

Already two more races left this season? :(

I wonder how Lorenzo will do at Sepang. Looking forward to FP.

Don't forget WSB Qatar is on as well.......:banana:

[EJK]

Also AI returning this weekend :banana:

[pritch]

So, Sepang next,I would expect a more normal result ?


You would? The MotoGP race is cunningly timed so as to coincide with the afternoon monsoon rains. It doesn't always happen, but it does happen.

Mike Jones didn't do himself any harm. He qualified faster than Aoyama in Japan, never having set eyes on the track, or even getting a chance to walk around it. Then he picked up a championship point at Phillip Island. He shouldn't have found that at all boring. It's always possible that his efforts were noticed.

[roogazza]

You would? The MotoGP race is cunningly timed so as to coincide with the afternoon monsoon rains. It doesn't always happen, but it does happen.

You'd think that an easy fix ? (I had fogotten that happens at Sepang).
Advance it an hour or so.
Ok, that's the weather and temps sorted, now we need a good batch of rubber? ;)

Christ we'll have an injured Bwadley winning one next . :wacko:

[Dadpole]

Christ we'll have an injured Bwadley winning one next . :wacko:

Nah. My mate Lorenzo will recover his mojo (When Ducati tell him they are reconsidering his contract)

[Drew]

I noticed as I watched the last race, that the slower guys don't ride the full 'get off the bike' style like Marquez. Miller looks like Andrew Stroud on the bike.

Vinales needs to catch a fucken taxi back to the seat as he stands the bike up.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Doesn't mean he can't decide to retire. But who knows, after the way this season has gone he could win the last 2 races.

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I see the Michelins seemed quite good. At a track where Bridgestone have struggled to get a tire to do more than 10 laps at a time...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nah. My mate Lorenzo will recover his mojo (When Ducati tell him they are reconsidering his contract)

Ducati could be the end of him...

[Drew]

I see the Michelins seemed quite good. At a track where Bridgestone have struggled to get a tire to do more than 10 laps at a time...

No one complained about tyres dropping off, and I don't think the commentators went on about it like they normally do either.

[BMWST?]

No one complained about tyres dropping off, and I don't think the commentators went on about it like they normally do either.
ahh the old familiar michelin tyre drop off eh!

[husaberg]

You'd think that an easy fix ? (I had fogotten that happens at Sepang).
Advance it an hour or so.
Ok, that's the weather and temps sorted, now we need a good batch of rubber? ;)


Race times like rugby world cup games are set to meet the Euro timetable for TV

[pritch]

You'd think that an easy fix ? (I had fogotten that happens at Sepang).
Advance it an hour or so.


Nah. They only recently unfixed it. They put the PI and Sepang programmes back to be better for European TV. So now the main race starts about when the rain is due if it's coming.

The later time can also effect Phillip Island as the temperature can drop dramatically in the afternoon there.

[merv]

No one complained about tyres dropping off, and I don't think the commentators went on about it like they normally do either.

Isn't the problem that the riders can't keep enough heat on the right side of the tyre? Did I see someone say Marquez levelled his speed off once he got in front and maybe he should have just kept pushing hard and kept the front tyre warmer.

Hey Honda usually innovate first, so is it time they introduced some sort of built in tyre warmers in the wheels, or is that against the rules already?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Did I see someone say Marquez levelled his speed off once he got in front and maybe he should have just kept pushing hard and kept the front tyre warmer.

?

Think MM himself fully admitted fault, and said he simply got in too hot and took the wrong option of trying to brake late and hard to make the corner. Should've used the escape road. Had that much of a lead, he could've rejoined and still won.

Won me my money. But I'm not bitter about that. Mumble mumble mumble...grizzle groan grizzle.

Cunt.

[Autech]

Mike Jones didn't do himself any harm. He qualified faster than Aoyama in Japan, never having set eyes on the track, or even getting a chance to walk around it. Then he picked up a championship point at Phillip Island. He shouldn't have found that at all boring. It's always possible that his efforts were noticed.

Properly impressive to finish ahead of a few of the full time riders. If I was a GP rider and some local superbike guy beat me I'd be shitting bricks come negotiation time.


I noticed as I watched the last race, that the slower guys don't ride the full 'get off the bike' style like Marquez. Miller looks like Andrew Stroud on the bike.

Vinales needs to catch a fucken taxi back to the seat as he stands the bike up.

Could be down to his physical condition perhaps?


Think MM himself fully admitted fault, and said he simply got in too hot and took the wrong option of trying to brake late and hard to make the corner. Should've used the escape road. Had that much of a lead, he could've rejoined and still won.

Won me my money. But I'm not bitter about that. Mumble mumble mumble...grizzle groan grizzle.

Cunt.

The age old debate: Stand it up or lean further? MM seems to be the lean further type unless there's a rider in front of him.

[Autech]

Speaking of Miller:
http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/hayden-wont-give-miller-a-kiss-after-phillip-island-clash-842040/

That Hayden is a nice chap isn't he?

[pritch]

No one complained about tyres dropping off, and I don't think the commentators went on about it like they normally do either.

There were comments about riders dropping off. Three riders chose the hard front, two of the three went down (ESP & MM) and the other (CC) was a worried man.

While Marquez said it was his fault it seems that the tyre may have been a contributing factor.

Oxley mentions that here: http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/cal-joins-pommie-pantheon

[Crasherfromwayback]

Speaking of Miller:
http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/hayden-wont-give-miller-a-kiss-after-phillip-island-clash-842040/

That Hayden is a nice chap isn't he?

I think he was going pretty well too considering.

[roogazza]

There were comments about riders dropping off. Three riders chose the hard front, two of the three went down (ESP & MM) and the other (CC) was a worried man.
While Marquez said it was his fault it seems that the tyre may have been a contributing factor. ]

Yes,Crashlow managed his hard front better than Esp and MM, keeping heat in it as temps dropped.Have to give him that. So many different winners this season has demonstrated the problems of tyres and conditions.
Rossi on the other hand, showed he probably cooked his soft front carving thru the grid from 15th.
(that's just my personal take ).:shifty:

[sugilite]

Yeah, respect to Crutchlow, he won fair and square. I know the pommie press are talking him up real big now, but I reckon he needs to be doing it consistently before any party hats are broken out in terms of him being a World championship contender. To be fair to the Pommie press, we would be doing the same if a kiwi were winning races - after all it was a very impressive ride from him. :yes:

As for for Lorenzo, he is riding a bike acknowledged as being the most forgiving and easy bike to set up for any given track - and next year he is moving to the opposite. I too believe the Ducati will destroy him. When in an interview earlier this year, Rossi was asked "Will Lorenzo move to Ducati in 2017" His reply was "A move to another bike takes balls, so Lorenzo will stay where he is" - I remember thinking at the time, you bloody cunning bugger Rossi, that little gauntlet/Jibe will be hard for Lorenzos ego to ignore. I know it will be far from the only reason Lorenzo jumped, but felt at the time it was very likely a real tipping point - if not THE tipping point for Lorenzo making his decision. I'm really looking forward to next year that is for sure! This year has been a stunner too - long may this action reign! :Punk:

[Autech]

This year has been a stunner too - long may this action reign! :Punk:

Hair hare!

Been a stonking GP season, best one since '13 when the Spanish trio were bashing fairings and traction control sensors.
May 17 be a year where all the riders are comfortable on the tyres and are swapping race wins. Might see a Ducati world champion?

[Dadpole]

That's why they hired Lorenzo. I think he will be under huge pressure (by both Ducati and himself) by mid-point next year unless he is in the top 3 point wise.

[EJK]

Hair hare!

Been a stonking GP season, best one since '13 when the Spanish trio were bashing fairings and traction control sensors.
May 17 be a year where all the riders are comfortable on the tyres and are swapping race wins. Might see a Ducati world champion?

Ducati world champion? Ya dreamin!

Next year I'm going to look out for:

New kids on the block Johann Zarco and Alex Rins. Have good feelings with Suzuki especially with AI on board. Hoping to see lots of Suzuki podium finishes.
MV on Yamaha
New KTM team
Yonny Hernández in Moto2. Wonder how he will perform on a Moto2 bike?

[Hemi Makutu]

I see the Michelins seemed quite good. At a track where Bridgestone have struggled to get a tire to do more than 10 laps at a time...


To be fair, that debacle happened due to a fresh resurface laid with high-abrasion hot-mix,
compounded by not yet having enough rubber laid on top/raced into it.

& the fact that testing limitations set by Dorna - meant that poor ol' Bridgie was left to carry the can/& eat the shit.

[Autech]

Ducati world champion? Ya dreamin!

Next year I'm going to look out for:

New kids on the block Johann Zarco and Alex Rins. Have good feelings with Suzuki especially with AI on board. Hoping to see lots of Suzuki podium finishes.
MV on Yamaha
New KTM team
Yonny Hernández in Moto2. Wonder how he will perform on a Moto2 bike?


I reckon the Ducati could have won a fair few races this year with an alien on board. Stoner would have wiped the floor with them given this years package. Power like that with good braking and ok corner speed?

Next year I look to:
Alex Rins: he adapted to moto2 as fast as MM so maybe he will to GP?
KTMs
MV: of course
Aleix Esparagrass



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[sugilite]

Hair hare!

Might see a Ducati world champion?
To my mind, only if they could have lured Stoner out of retirement. Definitely not with their 2017 rider lineup.

[ellipsis]

To be fair to the Pommie press, we would be doing the same if a kiwi were winning races



...I call bullshit on that...when have the NZ media ever given a fuck about our riders doing exceptionally well overseas in the Primo classes or on the Island...five eighths of fuck all is how much they give a fuck, unless it was a slow news day...Zarco and Rins etc could not get that close to Rabat in Moto2 for as long as he was on top so giving credence to riders from that class before they have actually been brutalised by a GP bike is a bit silly...Mike Jones did very well though...

[sugilite]

...I call bullshit on that...when have the NZ media ever given a fuck about our riders doing exceptionally well overseas in the Primo classes or on the Island...five eighths of fuck all is how much they give a fuck
I meant "we" as in us kiwibikers, the NZ media never ever entered my mind :lol:

[jasonu]

...I call bullshit on that...when have the NZ media ever given a fuck about our riders doing exceptionally well overseas in the Primo classes or on the Island...five eighths of fuck all is how much they give a fuck, unless it was a slow news day......

When was the last time an Unzudder actually did well overseas in a primo class?

[Autech]

When was the last time an Unzudder actually did well overseas in a primo class?

Jake Lewis won the EJC a few years ago
Avalon Biddle won the womens sub championship of that class 2 years running.

Any of our other riders out doing well? (excluding the god Bruce Ansty of course)


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[pritch]

Jake Lewis won the EJC a few years ago
Avalon Biddle won the womens sub championship of that class 2 years running.


I'm not sure what jason means by "primo" but while the results you mention are encouraging I wouldn't be calling them primo. We'd be looking a long way back to Croz or Slight or...

With nationalism to the fore and so much of racing ruled by big bucks now, it's hard to see a Kiwi kid getting a good ride - short of an absolutely outrageous talent.

It's interesting that Ducati went to Australia for a replacement, whether they were watching, or whether they phoned Bayliss and asked if there was anybody likely?
Who knows.

[James Deuce]

Jake Lewis won the EJC a few years ago
Avalon Biddle won the womens sub championship of that class 2 years running.

Any of our other riders out doing well? (excluding the god Bruce Ansty of course)


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Avalon won again this year too. She's racing all over Europe as well. She's not getting the support or recognition she deserves.

[Drew]

Nick Cole usually brings home some silverware from the classics event he attends overseas.

[Autech]

I'm not sure what jason means by "primo" but while the results you mention are encouraging I wouldn't be calling them primo.

In my eyes winning on a category like EJC would almost be more difficult that in any other class of racing in the world. You've got riders all on the same machinery, to win you really have to be the best rider, not the average rider on the best bike. Any racer in the world knows the frustration of getting out stripped by someone who's sunk more coin into their bike/car.

I do see your point though, most average Joes wouldn't even know what the EJC is, which is a shame as it's fucking good racing to watch.

[jasonu]

I'm not sure what jason means by "primo" but while the results you mention are encouraging I wouldn't be calling them primo. We'd be looking a long way back to Croz or Slight or...

With nationalism to the fore and so much of racing ruled by big bucks now, it's hard to see a Kiwi kid getting a good ride - short of an absolutely outrageous talent.

It's interesting that Ducati went to Australia for a replacement, whether they were watching, or whether they phoned Bayliss and asked if there was anybody likely?
Who knows.

The word 'primo' was used in the post I replied to.

[Crasherfromwayback]

When was the last time an Unzudder actually did well overseas in a primo class?

Simon Crafar on his Dunlop shod YZR. Then they switched to Michelin. Neck minute...

[ellipsis]

The word 'primo' was used in the post I replied to.

...pri·mo
(prē′mō)
a. Exceptionally good of its kind; first-class.
b. Highly or most valuable.

Italian, from Old Italian ;prīmus:

...edited to suit my whim...and I can assure you now, my whim definitely needs editing...

[pritch]

I was listening to the latest MotoPod podcast while doing the dishes, they reported an interesting paddock rumour. The buzz is that Criutchlow has received the offer of a factory ride. No details available so the guessing games kick off.

Most likely is a step up to full Honda support while staying with LCR as now. His bike is already virtually full factory but he'd get more technical support. He apparently already gets more visits from Honda technicians than is strictly normal.

A more fanciful suggestion is that Pedrosa is unable to continue and will announce his retirement to be replaced by Crutchlow.

Another option is that he's doing the Jonah Lomu thing and announcing a non-existent offer to boost his current offer.

Option A seems most likely? We'll see...

[Dadpole]

I imagine that all the factories will be giving more support to satellite teams next year. This year they will have been flat out sorting electronics for their own teams.

I bet Crutchlow stays with LCR. Nowhere else to go?

[James Deuce]

I imagine that all the factories will be giving more support to satellite teams next year. This year they will have been flat out sorting electronics for their own teams.

I bet Crutchlow stays with LCR. Nowhere else to go?
Bit of a shame really. Dani needs to retire before he's too crippled to move. Give Crutchlow a year on a factory Honda. He's the only other Honda rider who worked hard at figuring the thing out by crashing it for 6 races straight.

[BMWST?]

i think that CC will want to stay with LCR.I think he is very happy there and that is one reason for his recent success.He laready has a factory bike he just wants a bit more technical support.If (and i really hope he doesnt)Dani does retire i think Jack Miller has that seat.

[speights_bud]

i think that CC will want to stay with LCR.I think he is very happy there and that is one reason for his recent success.He laready has a factory bike he just wants a bit more technical support.If (and i really hope he doesnt)Dani does retire i think Jack Miller has that seat.
As much as I'd like to see CC in Dani's seat I have to agree with your theory. It makes sense that Honda's intentions from a few years ago would be to feed Miller into the factory team.

[James Deuce]

i think that CC will want to stay with LCR.I think he is very happy there and that is one reason for his recent success.He laready has a factory bike he just wants a bit more technical support.If (and i really hope he doesnt)Dani does retire i think Jack Miller has that seat.

Jack's case would have been helped by not knocking Nicky off. Expect another year in the wilderness as punishment. Also he has a bit too much "personality" for Honda. I think he's more likely to end up on a Suzuki.

[BMWST?]

Jack's case would have been helped by not knocking Nicky off. Expect another year in the wilderness as punishment. Also he has a bit too much "personality" for Honda. I think he's more likely to end up on a Suzuki.
I think long term you may be right,but for say next year he is the only candidate if Dani pulls the pin.

[Autech]

I think long term you may be right,but for say next year he is the only candidate if Dani pulls the pin.

Nooooo he can't!


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[Moise]

Hmm, interesting what CC said in the pre-event press conference about being happy with the level of factory support after his comments at PI about how Honda could support LCR better.

I'd say someone had a talk to him.



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[pritch]

Reports vary but John McPhee possibly has two punctured lungs and air trapped between his lungs and the wall of his chest. Whatever the exact details, he is stuck in Australia because he can't fly like that. There are other injuries but his lungs are the big problem.

Bastianini will also not be riding in Sepang. His place will be taken by Ayumu Sasaki, a young man in a hurry. Winner of the Asia Talent Cup and the Red Bull Rookie series, he has also had podium finishes in the CEV series in Europe. New tracks don't seem too much of a problem.

People don't like the extreme negative camber on the new corner in Sepang. Simon Crafar says that it's better than standing water which would stop the race.

[roogazza]

Reports vary but John McPhee possibly has two punctured lungs and air trapped between his lungs and the wall of his chest. Whatever the exact details, he is stuck in Australia because he can't fly like that. There are other injuries but his lungs are the big problem.

His crash didn't look too good did it ? Hate seeing those rag doll finishes.
Bring on the racing........... and Vale !!!!!

Crashlow 6th for this race, back to reality ???? :sweatdrop.
I see in FP1 he's 13th so could be right ?

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://superbikeplanet.com/2016/Oct/sp4/20161027-2250.htm

[Dadpole]

Moto2 FP1 interrupted by Typical Sepang pissydownitis.

Luthi looking good. Lowes managed two crashes on the same corner - on the same lap:eek5:

[pritch]

For Autech?

From Pedro overnight:
"Recently some journalists wrote they heard rumours about me retiring. These news are groundless and I can't wait to get back on track."

[Autech]

For Autech?

From Pedro overnight:
"Recently some journalists wrote they heard rumours about me retiring. These news are groundless and I can't wait to get back on track."

Of course. He still has a title to win...


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[Crasherfromwayback]

Of course. He still has a title to win...


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As much as I'd like to see the lil Battler win one, I doubt it'll ever happen.

[onearmedbandit]

Grabbed from BookFace. Interview with JL at PI.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Grabbed from BookFace. Interview with JL at PI.

Good find. Sounds fair to me.

[Autech]

Imagine that perfect rider? Cunt would dominate lol


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[Crasherfromwayback]

Imagine that perfect rider? Cunt would dominate lol




I hung my leathers up years ago mate... :bleh:

[Jin]

Funny he doesnt mention VR riding ability just basically says hes a cunning bastard :)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Funny he doesnt mention VR riding ability just basically says hes a cunning bastard :)

His race craft over the years has certainly proved to be as good as anyone's.

[Jin]

His race craft over the years has certainly proved to be as good as anyone's.
Its just age setting in unfortunately. Will be interesting to see if MM can beat his record and longevity.

[pritch]

Dovi done good. Rossi and Jorge on the front row. Crutchlow's qualifying effort was a bit special.

Might have to get some beer in for the race.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Its just age setting in unfortunately. Will be interesting to see if MM can beat his record and longevity.

Def. MM will easily beat his number of titles if he stays fit and hungry. He has five already. And owns a shitload records now too.

[jasonu]

As much as I'd like to see the lil Battler win one, I doubt it'll ever happen.

The modern Randy Mamola.

[Autech]

Go Dovi! 9!


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[Crasherfromwayback]

Go Dovi! 9!


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MV

MM

Rossi

Dovi

Lorenzo

[EJK]

Do a backflip!

Heres hoping to see more backflips in MotoGP next year.

[pritch]

I think these silly buggers have forgotten that it takes about eight laps to warm up the wets. They're into it from the get go.


Number nine! Whoda thunk it?

[Hemi Makutu]

Ist win for A.D. since 2009, & well deserved.. he saw off both V.R ( 2nd -with brake fade), & A.I. ( front end lose).

Hondas had front end loses ( C.C. out & M.M. out of contention, even though he still did better than Aoki).

J.L. rode a quiet race to 3rd on the box..

Resurface to the track seemed to offer good grip, to those who could use it..

[onearmedbandit]

Great win to Dovi, as said above well deserved too. And happy to see Vale secure second in the championship.

[BMWST?]

I couild see MM lose coming he lost a bit of grund and was a bit wide coming into the turn he was on it and was carrying a lot of speed.....really happy to see #04 win it i was a fan of his when he was on the Hondsa 250,made a good statrt to his Motgp carreer but he never quite seemed to make the last step.With a wee bit of luck he has done it!

[Dave-]

F1 has had 9 different winners in the last 5 seasons.

2016:
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Rosberg
Daniel Ricciardo
2015:
Sebastian Vettel
2014:
No new winners
2013:
Kimi Räikkönen
Fernando Alonso
2012:
Mark Webber
Pastor Maldonado
Jenson Button

What a shit show.

[EJK]

More reasons I don't watch F1.

Did you notice like UFC (which I also stopped watching), F1 gets plastered and wrapped with commercials? I just want to watch the race!

More reason I like MotoGP. No build up bullshit hype (UFC) and dodgy website-like annoying commercials.

[Hemi Makutu]

So, which anorak will inform us as to how long since the 1-2-3 Q-positions have also stepped up on the box - in that order?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Great win to Dovi, as said above well deserved too. And happy to see Vale secure second in the championship.

Agree with all of that.

[Autech]

Where's my positive rep for picking Dovi as the winner? Miserable cunts! :killingme

In all seriousness, must be a bloody relief for him to get a win, he's had a couple of bikes capable and never quite managed it. Great win and he beat one of the best fair n square to do it.

Just had a quick nosey at Aleix Espagaro's results in Valencia since he got on board a GP bike. He got some solid finishes on the crappy open class Yamaha there and beat Mav there last year (as he did most the year anyways).
Could we hope for 10 winners? Be a nice fuck you too Suzuki for dumping him for crash bandicoot. :banana:

[EJK]

EsA? He is quick on the clock no doubt but the top dogs (Lorenzo, Rossi, Marquez, Iannone even his current team mate etc) are just way too competitive for his chance to actually win. Long shot.

[Black Knight]

Two questions-

Doesn't Dovi come across as a nice and a humble guy?

When the fuck is someone going to murder Harris?

[Autech]

Two questions-

Doesn't Dovi come across as a nice and a humble guy?

When the fuck is someone going to murder Harris?

He sure is a nice guy. Probably why he's not as competitive as the others who have all come across as a cunt at some stage in their career.

As for Harris, time he hung up his lungs and fucks off. Problem is the others along side him are all using exactly the same words from the Harris dictionary (which is only 1 page long in 58pt font) so we'll be stuck with "very very" "crucial" "masterclass" "A little bit wide" for a very, very long long time.

[EJK]

Meanwhile in the world of marshalls...

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*Insert sweepers corner pun here*

[Autech]

Well at least Marquez thinks the same as I:

"With Dovi I have a good relationship and he deserves to win. He is a really important rider for Ducati, for improving their bike. He has worked very hard for them. We already said in the press conference, 'who will be the next winner?' Now maybe in Valencia, it will be Espargaro."

Which Espargaro?

"It could be Aleix or Pol. It would be nice to have a tenth winner… Actually no, I want to win in Valencia!" Marquez grinned.

While Marquez has already secured the riders' title, Honda also heads to Valencia with a 21-point lead over Yamaha in the constructors' championship - but is ten points behind Movistar Yamaha in the teams' standings.
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/234892/1/marquez-i-was-waiting-to-push-but.html#1MGX6lHhQK8TUexG.99

[pritch]

A nice touch, Rossi congratulates 3rd place getter in the Asia Talent Cup at Sepang.

[Hemi Makutu]

Did any 'keen larrikin' Aussies strip down to their 'budgie smugglers' in Sepang - or is that only a 'classy' F1 thing?

I saw 'Mad Jack' was muted, had HRC stuck his ECU on 'full wet' mode after the factory 'ross of face' at P.Is.,
- or did they give him the opportunity to be "chillin' 'n' shit" - just in case he lost the front end fangin' it, too?

He still made the last 250 GP champ who replaced the KY-kid on Pedro's bike, look 'a bit ordinary' - as the Aussies put it..

[Hemi Makutu]

A nice touch, Rossi congratulates 3rd place getter in the Asia Talent Cup at Sepang.

Might've been anglin' to show the wee bloke the benefits of his A-Style sponsorship program?

[roogazza]

A nice touch, Rossi congratulates 3rd place getter in the Asia Talent Cup at Sepang.

For so many reasons this guy is a great Champion. I can't imagine the paddock without him.

[Hemi Makutu]

For so many reasons this guy is a great Champion. I can't imagine the paddock without him.

Hey, even after the old goat is finally put out to pasture, likely his social media feed will have views
of him out standing in his field, ah "paddock", & showing the young bucks the biz, on his ranch..

[jasonu]

I can't imagine the paddock without him.

Prolly less bum sex...:niceone:

[pritch]

MotoGP electronics explained.
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/motogp/bradley-smith-motogp-electronics-explained-part-1/#more-121941

[roogazza]

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2016/11/07/after_valencia_who_is_testing_what_at.html

Still one round to go but something to read as its fallen flat around here.

[pritch]

I just listened to the 11.00AM news and sport on Newstalk ZB. They finished the bulletin with a comprehensive and accurate account of Pedrosa's injuries, his recovery, his comments on his return to riding, and his record at valencia. Almost unbelievable.

[Dadpole]

Meanwhile... Somewhere in Spain a race is about to break out. The final curtain. :weep:

At least in NZ the last race also means that summer is not far off. The poor northern hemispherers have a winter of dark and despondency ahead.

MM for the win for my money.

He will feel a burning need to make up for the last two races so I expect him to ride at 100% - no more and certainly no less. I can't see anyone being able to live with Marquez at that level.

[BMWST?]

be interesting to see how the KTM goes.Mind you Kallio is not really a known quantity so i guess the tuesday wednesday test with Smith and P Esparagaro

[Autech]

Promising start for the KTM only a few secs off the leader in fp1.

Lorenzo will dominate this race if its dry.


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[Crasherfromwayback]

Lorenzo will dominate this race if its dry.




My TAB account hopes so. Had a hiding this season.

[pritch]

KTM is lacking rear grip. Previously this had not been noticed but on track with the other bikes it became apparent, which is why they are there. Apparently the bike sounds great which gives the impression the engine is a screamer not a big bang.

Lorenzo wrote a very nice letter to Yamaha saying thanks and goodbye. It has been published in both English and Spanish.

Pity Pedro is injured, he has a good record at Valencia. Rossi says he has trouble with Valencia.

Dorna say having multiple GPs in Spain helps pay for the ones away from Spain.

Dorna are inviting manufacturers to offer engines for Moto2. Preference is for 600cc fours though which narrows the field.

[Dadpole]

Dorna are inviting manufacturers to offer engines for Moto2. Preference is for 600cc fours though which narrows the field.

Who still makes a 600 four that would be suitable?

I would love to see a 750 twin which would make a logical step between Moto3 and the top class. I can count the makers of that on the fingers of no hands though.

[roogazza]

KTM is lacking rear grip. Previously this had not been noticed but on track with the other bikes it became apparent, which is why they are there. Apparently the bike sounds great which gives the impression the engine is a screamer not a big bang

Nothing like getting on track with the oposition to compare huh ?
3 secs off tho ???????
Wait till next year with their rider choices,its all up hill from here. :rolleyes:

Rossi for President !!! :cool:

[yod]

not live on Sky? W T F ?!

[Kornholio]

My TAB account hopes so. Had a hiding this season.

For once mine is in the black, nothing to retire on but haha

Lorenzo huh :shifty:

[Crasherfromwayback]

For once mine is in the black, nothing to retire on but haha

Lorenzo huh :shifty:

Only wins I had this year were MM in Argentina, Texas, Germany and Aragon. Crazy Joe in Austria. The rest I've bombed. Need Lorenzo this weekend to make me (and my account balance) feel a lil better!

[James Deuce]

Only wins I had this year were MM in Argentina, Texas, Germany and Aragon. Crazy Joe in Austria. The rest I've bombed. Need Lorenzo this weekend to make me (and my account balance) feel a lil better!
Lol. Dude's done.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Lol. Dude's done.

Dunno 'bout that. He's been the fastest in both sessions so far by quite a bit, and his record round there is pretty good. Time will tell...

But I reckon he'll be well motivated to part with Yamaha with a big fuck you.

[sharp2183]

not live on Sky? W T F ?!

Don't understand why people continue with sky. MotoGP.com is such a good deal and you can watch anytime.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Don't understand why people continue with sky. MotoGP.com is such a good deal and you can watch anytime.

You're wasting your time mate. They'd rather get raped every year and continue to pretend they don't enjoy it by moaning non stop here.

[sharp2183]

You're wasting your time mate. They'd rather get raped every year and continue to pretend they don't enjoy it by moaning non stop here.

You're probably right, but people have got to move with the times. There's absolutely no need to be tied into service providers like sky. Especially not for MotoGP which offers an affordable and comprehensive package. It's like buying CDs for music. Sheer stupidity.

[onearmedbandit]

Stolen from Facebook.

[Hemi Makutu]

Who still makes a 600 four that would be suitable?

I would love to see a 750 twin which would make a logical step between Moto3 and the top class. I can count the makers of that on the fingers of no hands though.


This would be much better than a bloody supersport 600/4:

www.rotax.com/en/products/rotax-powertrains/details/rotax-600-e-tec.html

Slotted into something like this: http://www.bikebound.com/2016/10/17/gatto-nero/

[Crasherfromwayback]

This would be much better than a bloody supersport 600/4:

www.rotax.com/en/products/rotax-powertrains/details/rotax-600-e-tec.html

]

Considering 250's did around 100hp back in the day...113 from a 600 is a fail.

[Hemi Makutu]

Considering 250's did around 100hp back in the day...113 from a 600 is a fail.


Yeah, that figure is obviously a soft tune, with quiet 2-1 pipe & inlet muffling, yet what does a stock 600/4 make?
Nothing like that much torque, for sure..

A power tune, for racing, is going to liberate a fair bit more power.

[Hemi Makutu]

This is the new Indian 750 flat-track race engine, good for ~110 hp.

www.cycleworld.com/closer-look-at-indian-motorcycle-new-ftr750-dirt-track-race-engine-part-2#page-2

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, that figure is obviously a soft tune, with quiet 2-1 pipe & inlet muffling, yet what does a stock 600/4 make?
Nothing like that much torque, for sure..

A power tune, for racing, is going to liberate a fair bit more power.

If you're gonna use a snowmobile engine...

http://www.cycleworld.com/2016/02/28/rocket-science-professor-robin-tuluie-tul-aris-prototype-racebike-cycle-world-classics

[Hemi Makutu]

Of course the 800s make more power, but the FIM need not get complaints about filthy 2Ts if they kept the DI...

[jasonu]

Who still makes a 600 four that would be suitable?

I would love to see a 750 twin which would make a logical step between Moto3 and the top class. I can count the makers of that on the fingers of no hands though.

What about a 250 2 stroke?

[BMWST?]

JL seems to like the new front tyre which is supposed to give better feel and better edge grip,which is exactly what he has been missing all year.I persevere with Sky because it does offer other sports and all the other garbage(channels).Sky on demand has a bit of stuff too and sky go can be helpful when you away from home.Qualifying live on sky CH 56 7 30 pm edit.....not 7 30 pm,more like 12 30 am ...

[speights_bud]

Took it upon myself to start a MotoGP 2017 thread.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/181468-MotoGP-2017?p=1131012384#post1131012384

[Hemi Makutu]

What about a 250 2 stroke?


It would be a positive step for for racing, but Caramello would see it as 'loss of face' & couldn't do it..

[James Deuce]

Dunno 'bout that. He's been the fastest in both sessions so far by quite a bit, and his record round there is pretty good. Time will tell...

But I reckon he'll be well motivated to part with Yamaha with a big fuck you.

Yes, suprised by that.He's been limp in practice for the last few races. Tyres must have come good.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes, suprised by that.He's been limp in practice for the last few races. Tyres must have come good.

Also put a lot of fast laps together on the harder tyres in FP3 instead of putting in a soft and going for a time. Was 3rd that session. MM led the way. Qual should be good.

[Dadpole]

Moto3: One second covers the first 25 on the grid! I expect it to be the race of the weekend - again.

As an aside: The Aprilia. Isn't it nice to see a solid colour bike again.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fucking amazing effort by Lorenzo and Michelin. And for the wankers that last year cried about MM not even trying to pass Lorenzo. Get a grip. When he's on round there...ain't no one gonna get near enough to him to even try a pass. His pole lap was un fucking real to watch.

http://superbikeplanet.com/2016/Nov/161112rydernotes.htm

[pritch]

I think it was Oxley was saying that this track offers less overtaking oportunities than anywhere else during the year. Still, I hope we can get a good race to end a great season.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think it was Oxley was saying that this track offers less overtaking oportunities than anywhere else during the year. Still, I hope we can get a good race to end a great season.

Yep. Having been there..he's right. Didn't stop Stoner pulling the move from hell on the very last corner of the last lap on old Ben Spies!

[sugilite]

Fucking amazing effort by Lorenzo and Michelin. And for the wankers that last year cried about MM not even trying to pass Lorenzo. Get a grip. When he's on round there...ain't no one gonna get near enough to him to even try a pass. His pole lap was un fucking real to watch.

http://superbikeplanet.com/2016/Nov/161112rydernotes.htm
Haha, Wanker HQ Calling - Bull shit on that one. MM was plenty close enough to pull at least one lunge, but he saved that for his team mate when he passed him and it only took something like 1/4 of a lap to do it! :devil2:
The real MM will turn up this race me thinks

[James Deuce]

Haha, Wanker HQ Calling - Bull shit on that one. MM was plenty close enough to pull at least one lunge, but he saved that for his team mate when he passed him and it only took something like 1/4 of a lap to do it! :devil2:
The real MM will turn up this race me thinks
I is with you, brother!

[pritch]

Something Mat Oxley mentioned over night. At the European rounds there are some accomodation trucks available for those riders not exalted enough to have their own motorhome. Each of these trucks have four bedrooms and the rooms are available for hire - at the absolutely eye watering price of 56,000 Euros per season. That's close to NZ$85,500.

As Oxley pointed out, being at the track and avoiding the traffic jams is priceless, but that sum is still staggering.

[speights_bud]

As an aside: The Aprilia. Isn't it nice to see a solid colour bike again.

Have to disagree there, I personally think they look effing horrible.

[pritch]

Have to disagree there, I personally think they look effing horrible.

Don't worry, it'll be a one off. It's in support of an AIDS charity.

[speights_bud]

Don't worry, it'll be a one off. It's in support of an AIDS charity.

Yea I heard something about U2 and Bono...

I'm partial to a colourful bikes though, the LCR Honda when Bradl had it/Crutchlow took over was a favourite of mine.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Haha, Wanker HQ Calling - Bull shit on that one. MM was plenty close enough to pull at least one lunge, but he saved that for his team mate when he passed him and it only took something like 1/4 of a lap to do it! :devil2:
The real MM will turn up this race me thinks

I guess you haven't been watching much Moto GP then mate.

Because if you had been...you would've noticed that just about EVERY race Lorenzo wins, he's done so by getting a great start, and fucking off.

But hey...far be it from me to ruin the Rossi Fan Boi's conspiracy party!

[Dadpole]

And Lorenzo will certainly want to fuck off and win this time. I just watched Q2. Bugger me... Three stunning laps in that session. If they don't climb all over him in the first lap then Lorenzo will have been on the podium, collected his trophy and pissed off home before second place crosses the line.

[sugilite]

I guess you haven't been watching much Moto GP then mate.

Because if you had been...you would've noticed that just about EVERY race Lorenzo wins, he's done so by getting a great start, and fucking off.

But hey...far be it from me to ruin the Rossi Fan Boi's conspiracy party!

Not that race sport. Your memory must be on the wane, bit like Lorenzos career will be next year ;)

[Dadpole]

Interesting snippet during the BTSport Moto2 warmup: During the 3 fly-away races, Sam Lowes did a total of four (Yes four):eek5: race laps. Anyone putting money on Aprilia next year?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Not that race sport. Your memory must be on the wane, bit like Lorenzos career will be next year ;)

Ummmmm...last year...at Valencia. Lorenzo fucked off into the distance and won the race. But hey...maybe your conspiracy started at Phillip Island (that's where Rossi lost it mentally). You know...where MM over took Lorenzo on the last lap to help him win the title. By taking five valuable points off him. Oh hang on...that doesn't compute either!

Oh...no. Sorry. It was at Aragon...when Pedrosa roughed up Rossi, and took second place off him...to help Lorenzo win the title. Or was it...Crazy Joe beating Rossi at Phillip Island?

Fuck...I seriously can't remember which race...that Rossi got beat by who...that was the main conspiracy!

Oh hang on...was it...

That Lorenzo won twice as many races as Rossi? THAT one???

Yep...that's the one.

Check this lap...and weep.

Inch perfect.

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2016/11/12/lorenzo-s-pole-winning-lap/215907

[sugilite]

Ummmmm...last year...at Valencia. Lorenzo fucked off into the distance and won the race. But hey...maybe your conspiracy started at Phillip Island (that's where Rossi lost it mentally). You know...where MM over took Lorenzo on the last lap to help him win the title. By taking five valuable points off him. Oh hang on...that doesn't compute either!

Oh...no. Sorry. It was at Aragon...when Pedrosa roughed up Rossi, and took second place off him...to help Lorenzo win the title. Or was it...Crazy Joe beating Rossi at Phillip Island?

Fuck...I seriously can't remember which race...that Rossi got beat by who...that was the main conspiracy!

Oh hang on...was it...

That Lorenzo won twice as many races as Rossi? THAT one???

Yep...that's the one.

Check this lap...and weep.

Inch perfect.

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2016/11/12/lorenzo-s-pole-winning-lap/215907
lol, I've not mentioned any of the stuff you are going on about. But cool story :blink:
Are you calling 5 to 40 meters for most of the race fucking off?

[Crasherfromwayback]

lol, I've not mentioned any of the stuff you are going on about. But cool story :blink:
Are you calling 5 to 40 meters for most of the race fucking off?

Hope you enjoyed the race tonight mate. A repeat of last year. Except...this year, I won money on it.

Maybe...MM wanted Lorenzo to go out in style though eh?

I've no doubt he'd rather that...than win a home race in front of his fans.

:shutup:

[mulletman]

Cracker race indeed , great scraps going on behind Jorge :gob:

[roogazza]

Nice fine weather.
Horhay too good.
Zarco great.
Binder way too good.
Microphone jockeys enforce the use of the mute button.Are they really the best available ? :confused:

[James Deuce]

Nice fine weather.
Horhay too good.
Zarco great.
Binder way too good.
Microphone jockeys enforce the use of the mute button.Are they really the best available ? :confused:
I found a feed with no commentary. It was flipping great.

[roogazza]

I found a feed with no commentary. It was flipping great.

The ability to mute those babbling fuckwits and increase all the other sounds would be ideal for me.
Well that's it anyway, for another year ? (or 5 months !!).

[pritch]

Well I wasn't going to watch that until today, but twenty minutes after the rock 'n' roll I was still awake so I got up and watched. At that stage there was a real good four way scrap going on in Moto2.

Lorenzo's lap times were like a metronome, a series of laps with identical times. The comparison of styles, Lorenzo smooth as silk, or butter to use his own analogy, and Marquez as loose as (insert your own simile here), was stark. Both more rapid than anyone else though. It seems there is still no one fastest way around the track.

"Times in testing don't count" blah blah but we'll still be trying to find out what's happening.

[ecko_nzed]

Well despite helping Crasher stock his beer fridge, that was an epic season!

Binder was sensational in Moto3, Zarco all class in Moto2 and Lorenzo his usual boringly fast. Iannoe had a awesome race. I reckon he is going to go well on the Suzuki in 2017.

Can't wait to watch the test on Tuesday.

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[Badjelly]

Apparently Mika Kallio got a few good laps in but was then slowed and eventually stopped by electrical issues.

Electrical issue ruins Kallio’s historical race - happy weekend ends in bitter disappointment (http://www.mikakallio.com/content/en/36/24566/Electrical%20issue%20ruins%20Kallio%92s%20historic al%20race%20%2D%20happy%20weekend%20ends%20in%20bi tter%20disappointment.html#.WCj44sm4uPo)

Fairly encouraging.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well despite helping Crasher stock his beer fridge, that was an epic season!

Binder was sensational in Moto3, Zarco all class in Moto2 and Lorenzo his usual boringly fast. Iannoe had a awesome race. I reckon he is going to go well on the Suzuki in 2017.



Appreciate it mate don't worry. You were pretty bloody unlucky really.

And yeah...Binder is a fucking weapon.

[James Deuce]

Iannoe had a awesome race. I reckon he is going to go well on the Suzuki in 2017.



He'll go back to inserting motorcycle parts into low-earth orbit once the racing matters again.

[sugilite]

Hope you enjoyed the race tonight mate. A repeat of last year. Except...this year, I won money on it.

Maybe...MM wanted Lorenzo to go out in style though eh?

I've no doubt he'd rather that...than win a home race in front of his fans.

:shutup:

Yes, Great race! JL was imperious for the well deserved win. MM, VR and AI seemed to find plenty of passing places to make a good lunge. At the end of the day, at last years race, Rossi was never going to win - even if he did have a front row start, he simply was not good enough. All the other conspiracy theories I did not pay much into. However, that one race I still honestly believe MM ran wing man to JL. Hatred clouds perspective big time - especially when your private home has just been invaded by unhinged Rossi fans!

Looking at the Ducati overall this year, maybe it was an inspired move for JL to jump ship - the 2017 model could be the weapon. Had he done it earlier, it would of kicked his arse, just like it did everyone else bar Stoner.

[pritch]

Apparently Mika Kallio got a few good laps in but was then slowed and eventually stopped by electrical issues.


Electrical issues? Hmmmm Perhaps - or perhaps not. The factories trot that one out when the piston hits the spark plug. John Britten used it when having carefully worked out how much gas he needed for the race at Daytona he decided to save some weight...

They do it so often that even if it is true people regard the statement with suspicion.

[roogazza]

Oh , I forgot, Crashlots fired it into the shrubbery again !!

Tyres soft or let go

Hondas fault

coulda shoulda woulda

everything but the guy on the handlebars !!!!!!!!!!!!!:violin::tugger::tugger::yawn:

[BMWST?]

Well JL shows us again that talent is permanent and form is only to be regarded in the context of the last race,give him some predictability and edge grip........
But watching Marquez on the Honda get slaughtered by ALL the other bikes out of turn 14 make s me have few doubts about what will happen next year if the Honda is improved again

[pritch]

Two people have won consecutive championships on different makes of machinery apparently. Only one has won consecutive races on different makes.

Lorenzo would like to join either of those very short lists, and he does have a decent record at Qatar, Ducati will need to do something to make the bike turn though. Oxley said Iannone loooked like he was trying to steer a truck at times in Valencia. Dall'Igna said Lorenzo has a different style to everybody else, so Ducati is aware of what is required. Be interesting to see if Ducati - and Michelin - can give Lorenzo what he needs.

Mat Oxley posted this pic with just one word: "Obsolescence". He later suggested they could be used for aerodynamic crash bungs. Still it woulda been nice to grab a pair of those.