MotoGP 2016

[pritch]

Jorge Navarro has broken both tibia and fibia in one leg in training which may damage his championship hopes. The good news for him is that there are still two weeks to the next race, then a gap of three weeks followed by a four week break.

[Drew]

Jorge Navarro has broken both tibia and fibia in one leg in training which may damage his championship hopes. The good news for him is that there are still two weeks to the next race, then a gap of three weeks followed by a four week break.Worst case is a season with drawl. Most likely though he'll only miss one round.

[Erelyes]

Worst case is a season with drawl.

Didn't work so great for Nicky Hayden...

[ellipsis]

...who the fuck is 'drawl'?...

[merv]

...who the fuck is 'drawl'?...

It is not "is" it is how all those Southern boys speak!

[ecko_nzed]

Suzuki confirming what everybody in the paddock already had
http://www.suzuki-racing.com/motogp/ALEX-RINS-SIGNED-FOR-TWO-YEARS-WITH-TEAM-SUZUKI-ECSTAR.72488.cms

[pritch]

So Alex Briggs has posted a pic of his luggage. Once again the GP world is slowly coming to life. Thank you Lord :innocent:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Rossi

MM

Lorenzo

Mavrick

Pedro

[EJK]

Rossi

MM

Lorenzo

Mavrick

Pedro

Wow so confident, making bets even before free practice 1!

[Autech]

Rossi

MM

Lorenzo

Mavrick

Pedro

I'm going to go with:

VR
MM
DP
JL
AD
MV

Lets hope for a last corner clash again! VR will spank MM like the little brat that he is.

[pritch]

Overnight MM said that Assen is the first of several tracks that suit his style.

VR
MM
JL
DP
AD

Although ESA might surprise since he has a point to prove having been replaced at Suzuki. And for the first time the race will take place on Sunday.

[James Deuce]

And for the first time the race will take place on Sunday.
Bugger!!!!

[pritch]

Bugger!!!!

I'm OK, I'm retired. I can sleep in Monday. :whistle:

[James Deuce]

I'm OK, I'm retired. I can sleep in Monday. :whistle:
https://media.giphy.com/media/l0NwOkgTYRi30mT4Y/giphy.gif

[george formby]

I'm OK, I'm retired. I can sleep in Monday. :whistle:

Your retired and you can stay awake that long? Impressive.

I've gotten into the habit of watching the main race during breakfast on Monday morning. Brilliant way to start the day.

[pritch]

Your retired and you can stay awake that long? Impressive.


Sometimes no. Last time I made it right through and then cause there was excitement in the last few laps I was wide awake at 2.00 with no chance of going straight to sleep.

We'll see.

[george formby]

I'm generally exhausted after moto 3. :laugh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Wow so confident, making bets even before free practice 1!

Free practice one has fuck all to do with things. :headbang:

[roogazza]

I'm OK, I'm retired. I can sleep in Monday. :whistle:

and Tuesday and Wednesday and thursday.............:laugh::laugh:

Must admit I copy races that are on too late,gone are the days of waiting up.:rolleyes::confused:

[BMWST?]

MM for teh win.And dani for podium.

[Autech]

So Aleix Espagaro has been kicked to the curb. Silly move as he was the best on the bike last year before the tyres changed and has been getting stronger on the mitchies. That said, Alex Rins is an exciting prospect to see on a Suzuki, top class rider I wonder how long it will take him to show Ianonne how to ride a motorcycle. I'd have rather seen Aleix and Alex rather than Eahhnonne, hope they have a big crash budget!

Can't help but think that the Aprilia wont ever be as competitive as the Suzuki, Honda and Yams. They only did well (as I recall) in WSBK when they had Gigi developing the bike, he left and it turned to poos. Perhaps the KTM will be there to battle with them behind the Tech 3s?

[pritch]

Something to read while we wait for the action.


http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/assen-where-stuff-happens

[actungbaby]

Something to read while we wait for the action.


http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/assen-where-stuff-happens

Thankx for that

[pritch]

More history,
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2016/06/23/2016_assen_motogp_preview_sunday_sees.html

[pritch]

There has been an alteration to the final chicane at Assen. Dovizioso is unhappy about it because the white line that indicates the edge of the track is not a constant distance from the edge. No doubt this will be discussed at the Safety Commission.

The Safety Commission meeting will be better attended than usual this time because both VR and JL have indicated they will be in attendance, although it's possible their concerns relate more to Catalunya than to Assen.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Something else to sift through.

http://superbikeplanet.com/2016/Jun/160621skills.htm

[ellipsis]

...the body language during the pre race press conference was more revealing than the answers ...this weekend is open...anyone punting is only doing that...the more I see of Marc Marquez voicing his opines on everything, the more I like him...go Vale...

[roogazza]

Pos No. Rider Bike Time Gap Gap Previous
1 29 Andrea IANNONE Ducati 1'33.591
2 46 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha 1'33.595 0.004 0.004
3 93 Marc MARQUEZ Honda 1'33.724 0.133 0.129
4 25 Maverick VIÑALES Suzuki 1'33.892 0.301 0.168
5 99 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha 1'33.991 0.400 0.099
6 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Ducati 1'34.011 0.420 0.020
7 9 Danilo PETRUCCI Ducati 1'34.065 0.474 0.054
8 41 Aleix ESPARGARO Suzuki 1'34.087 0.496 0.022
9 44 Pol ESPARGARO Yamaha 1'34.163 0.572 0.076
10 45 Scott REDDING Ducati 1'34.172 0.581 0.009
11 26 Dani PEDROSA Honda 1'34.206 0.615 0.034
12 8 Hector BARBERA Ducati 1'34.404 0.813 0.198
13 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW Honda 1'34.480 0.889 0.076
14 38 Bradley SMITH Yamaha 1'34.531 0.940 0.051
15 50 Eugene LAVERTY Ducati 1'34.789 1.198 0.258
16 43 Jack MILLER Honda 1'35.008 1.417 0.219
17 6 Stefan BRADL Aprilia 1'35.056 1.465 0.048
18 68 Yonny HERNANDEZ Ducati 1'35.125 1.534 0.069
19 51 Michele PIRRO Ducati 1'35.220 1.629 0.095
20 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA Aprilia 1'35.284 1.693 0.064
21 53 Tito RABAT Honda 1'36.582 2.991 1.298

[Erelyes]

MM
AI
MV

10chars

[Crasherfromwayback]

MM
AI
MV

10chars

No way AI is gonna go from last on the grid to 2nd place.

[malcy25]

Vr
mm
jl
mv
dp
ad
ai

[pritch]

No way AI is gonna go from last on the grid to 2nd place.

LOL. Marquez and more recently Binder have produced stunning rides through the field but Ianone is playing with the big kids.

The weather forecast for race day was bad though, if it rains anything is possible.

[Crasherfromwayback]

LOL. Marquez and more recently Binder have produced stunning rides through the field but Ianone is playing with the big kids.

.

Yep. And yeah...fucking rain!

[pritch]

Yep. And yeah...fucking rain!

I was just reading David Emmetts comments, he lives in Holland so has local knowledge. He said the various apps and websites are being widely consulted to no avail. He can only narrow it down to, "This is Assen, anything can happen".

[Crasherfromwayback]

, "This is Assen, anything can happen".

And often does!

[pritch]

http://snpy.tv/28Y3cKU

Clip of a violent MM save. He didn't hit the deck but the rodeo act set his air bag off.

Hope Dorna haven't deleted it works now.

[mulletman]

That was a cracking session for sure esp the last few minutes with everyone trying to out do each others times., quite a few crashes and as said MM huge save under brakes . :headbang:

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://snpy.tv/28Y3cKU

Clip of a violent MM save. He didn't hit the deck but the rodeo act set his air bag off.

Hope Dorna haven't deleted it works now.

They guy is an animal!

[EJK]

Drizzle made FP4 and Q1/2 a complete new ball game. What a crash mayhem.

Assen's forecast for tomorrow looks as damp as today so it'll be quite interesting to see.

MM
VR
AD

JL DNF

Funny to see Marquez steal a scooter to get back to the pits :laugh: He should've ridden that around the track to score his qualifying laptime :lol:

[Dadpole]

VR
MM
MV

Lorenzo looks to be broken. Will be interesting to see if he can get it together for race day ala Rossi.

[Erelyes]

No way AI is gonna go from last on the grid to 2nd place.

You are 99% likely correct. Still, who knows what can happen when it rains, I'd wager he will be in the top 10 after a handful of laps, and from there it's not unlikely.

..... and I might have forgotten about his wrist slap.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You are 99% likely correct. Still, who knows what can happen when it rains, I'd wager he will be in the top 10 after a handful of laps, and from there it's not unlikely.

..... and I might have forgotten about his wrist slap.

Hey, I'm a fan, so I hope he goes wild! Been going great guns so far.

[Drew]

If it's wet.

VR
MM
Vin

Dovi to crash. Iannone to crash. Lorenzo to crash.

Flag to flag. There's no way to guess that shit. Every time it's F t F one of the aliens makes a monumental balls up of a decision.

Dry.

VR
MM
JL

[Autech]

So winglets are banned in 2017. Good!

Hard to pick the race result wet or dry but I think VR is the safest bet for the win


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[Crasherfromwayback]

If it's wet.

VR
MM
Vin



MM looked the best easily in the wet in FP4, so I'm going with him if it is wet.

[eelracing]

If it's wet then Vinales for the win.
He's young he's hungry and he's got nothing to lose.

[actungbaby]

Something else to sift through.

http://superbikeplanet.com/2016/Jun/160621skills.htm

That was amazing think thats most detail read in years

[actungbaby]

If it's wet.

VR
MM
Vin

Dovi to crash. Iannone to crash. Lorenzo to crash.

Flag to flag. There's no way to guess that shit. Every time it's F t F one of the aliens makes a monumental balls up of a decision.

Dry.

VR
MM
JL
if Mm crashs i think photo guy will taken his keys out the scotter ;-):baby:

[puddytat]

VR
MM
Petruci...if its wet.

VR
MM
Vinales

Jlo somewhere between 5-10

[Drew]

MM looked the best easily in the wet in FP4, so I'm going with him if it is wet.

I was pretty sleepy, but he didn't seem to be that good in the wet lying on his arse.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I was pretty sleepy, but he didn't seem to be that good in the wet lying on his arse.

Yeah but that wasn't FP4 either. Mind you, I didn't see qual.

[James Deuce]

Yeah but that wasn't FP4 either. Mind you, I didn't see qual.
I did. If it's wet he'll be stealing another scooter to gap it to the pits.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I did. If it's wet he'll be stealing another scooter to gap it to the pits.

I see the times in FP4 when he was smoking the field by over .6 of a sec were 2.48's. 2.45's in Qual. So I'm thinking it wasn't nearly as wet. But none of that will matter when the flag drops tonight. Bring it on I say. Might even put a few dollars on Redding and Espargaro. 51 & 81 respectively...

[Drew]

I see the times in FP4 when he was smoking the field by over .6 of a sec were 2.48's. 2.45's in Qual. So I'm thinking it wasn't nearly as wet. But none of that will matter when the flag drops tonight. Bring it on I say. Might even put a few dollars on Redding and Espargaro. 51 & 81 respectively...
A dry line developed in Q2. Marquez cocked it up and didn't really get a run. So he might have had the pace.

It'll be a good race I think.

[James Deuce]

If it rains, Vinales and Marquez will be donating parts to their manufacturer's respective museums and Lorenzo will come home about 12th if he just doesn't give up and park it.

[BMWST?]

well my confidence in Honda and Dani seem to be premature.In fact it has made me realise the Honda must be a bigger peice of poo than I can imagine.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If it rains, Vinales and Marquez will be donating parts to their manufacturer's respective museums and Lorenzo will come home about 12th if he just doesn't give up and park it.

http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/Netherlands/Assen-Circuit.aspx

[Autech]

well my confidence in Honda and Dani seem to be premature.In fact it has made me realise the Honda must be a bigger peice of poo than I can imagine.

There were circumstance around the weather etc which meant he never got a lap in within the right window. His usual luck. If its fully wet he will do ok though so don't stress


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[James Deuce]

http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/Netherlands/Assen-Circuit.aspx
That's a change from the thunderstorms predicted 12 hours ago.

But it is Assen. Anythng can happen.

[BMWST?]

There were circumstance around the weather etc which meant he never got a lap in within the right window. His usual luck. If its fully wet he will do ok though so don't stress


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he was out in q2 lap after lap.Reaing other material it seems as though the front rain tyre is very hard.Dani prolly cant get any heat into it,and is unwilling to try to force the issue by braking harder than is prudent

[Autech]

Skygo stream is fucked! So annoying!


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[mulletman]

Man another cracker Moto3 race phew :clap:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Man another cracker Moto3 race phew :clap:

Was a humdinger for sure.

[Pumba]

Skygo stream is fucked! So annoying!


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I fail to understand how there are hundreds of reliable streaming services worldwide that operate at a higher definition than Skygo, but they just seem to fail time and time again

[Pumba]

Hey given I am about to give sky the arse does MGP pass do discounts once the season is half way done?

[Drew]

Well done Nakagami. Superbly ridden, made his break perfectly. He was gonna win if the race went full distance.

[pritch]

Hey given I am about to give sky the arse does MGP pass do discounts once the season is half way done?

In previous seasons they have offered half price subs at the half way point of the season. Around $75 depending on how our currency is holding up at the time.

[pritch]

And it's pissing down in Assen.

[mulletman]

Lorenzo re starts on the LAST ROW....:baby:

[mulletman]

Great win JM :Punk:

[pritch]

Miller

Marquez

Redding

So who had that picked?

Was watching the finish with a big grin wondering what Pete would make of that.

[EJK]

Such a heart breaking/ warming race. Was awesome to see an underdog Hernandez lead the race for a bit.

Too many high profile crashes, each gave me a small heart attack. Feel so sorry for Dovi.

Well done to Iannone for not giving up.

Lorenzo... Hopeless in wet track. Saw him dropped to 19th position on first half of the race. The only reason he finished 10th place was because everyone else crashed out. Disappointing, so much for a "world champion".

[Tazz]

This old news? Think I'd read that it would probably happen like this but wasn't confirmed?

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/motogp-bans-aerodynamic-winglets-for-2017-791676/

[HenryDorsetCase]

Blimey. didnt expect that. Pete called it: "Anything can happen"

[HenryDorsetCase]

This old news? Think I'd read that it would probably happen like this but wasn't confirmed?

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/motogp-bans-aerodynamic-winglets-for-2017-791676/

fucking dumb. Like the UCI banning disc brakes. BACKWARDS - TO THE FUTURE!

[malcy25]

Miller

Marquez

Redding

So who had that picked?

Was watching the finish with a big grin wondering what Pete would make of that.

:headbang:. Lol, I had the same thought this morning about Pete when I saw the results!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Miller

Marquez

Redding

So who had that picked?

Was watching the finish with a big grin wondering what Pete would make of that.


:headbang:. Lol, I had the same thought this morning about Pete when I saw the results!

That'll learn me for letting personalities get the better of me. I did toy with the idea of putting a tenner on him knowing he's good in the wet. Think he was paying $500-1. Good on him though. And how many here said MM would bin it in the wet?

[roogazza]

Personally don't enjoy the tippy toe wet races these days.
The pom commentators seem to go on for ever.Mute button is my friend.
Knew something was up when I copied the race, cos it went on till 6am .

And then Vale went upside down,so I really got the shits and fast forwarded the thing !
@$$^&&*^%%$#$$%&@#$%^%$@#%$##$ !!!!!! :msn-wink:

[James Deuce]

And how many here said MM would bin it in the wet?
Me. He still got beaten by a customer bike ridden by a wanker though. I'll take that.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Me. He still got beaten by a customer bike ridden by a wanker though. I'll take that.

Indeed. But the MM of old would've put it into the kitty litter before he'd let that happen. This season, he's learnt to bring it home for the points instead. Tis why he'll win plenty more titles.

[malcy25]

Indeed. But the MM of old would've put it into the kitty litter before he'd let that happen. This season, he's learnt to bring it home for the points instead. Tis why he'll win plenty more titles.
Yep. He's done it a couple of times this year, gone for points. Points win championships.

[actungbaby]

Well done Nakagami. Superbly ridden, made his break perfectly. He was gonna win if the race went full distance.

brillent tatics well judged great to see him get his first race win.

And jack miller can ride gee i wonder why HRC gave hime a contract gee well we know why know

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yep. He's done it a couple of times this year, gone for points. Points win championships.

Fuck Lorenzo is a pussy in the wet eh!

[eelracing]

Fuck Lorenzo is a pussy in the wet eh!

An old cricketing adage say's 'form is temporary-class is forever' something like that anyway.
Lorenzo will always come back coz someone has to chase Marky Mark now that Rossi's championship bid is all but over.

[pritch]

I did toy with the idea of putting a tenner on him knowing he's good in the wet. Think he was paying $500-1.

I don't bet but have long had the impression that the TAB are too tight with their odds. The bookies were offering 1000 to 1 on Miller.

A one pound accumulator bet (whatever that is) on Bagnaia and Miller would have netted 192,000 quid. That's nearly NZ$300,000.
There's a reason for that though: the phrase "snowball's chance in Hell" comes to mind. Some snowball.

[Crasherfromwayback]

An old cricketing adage say's 'form is temporary-class is forever' something like that anyway.
Lorenzo will always come back coz someone has to chase Marky Mark now that Rossi's championship bid is all but over.

Yeah be a silly man to write Lorenzo off this early. But if it rains a lot more he's fucked. Like the season in World Dupers when Crazy John beat Slighty. Wetest season I've ever seen.


I don't bet but have long had the impression that the TAB are too tight with their odds. The bookies were offering 1000 to 1 on Miller.

A one pound accumulator bet (whatever that is) on Bagnaia and Miller would have netted 192,000 quid. That's nearly NZ$300,000.
There's a reason for that though: the phrase "snowball's chance in Hell" comes to mind. Some snowball.

I would've been happy with 5k back from a 10 dollar cheeky one.

[Dave-]

This old news? Think I'd read that it would probably happen like this but wasn't confirmed?

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/motogp-bans-aerodynamic-winglets-for-2017-791676/

This fucks me off so much. F1 here we come!

[malcy25]

Fuck Lorenzo is a pussy in the wet eh!

A Bit like me really !

[James Deuce]

Indeed. But the MM of old would've put it into the kitty litter before he'd let that happen. This season, he's learnt to bring it home for the points instead. Tis why he'll win plenty more titles.
He only did that because Rossi was out.

[Crasherfromwayback]

He only did that because Rossi was out.

Which was a shame.

[James Deuce]

Which was a shame.
Of the highest order. There was a load heartbreak in that race but by far the biggest tragedy is that Aussie-Italian blowhard can claim to be a MotoGP winner.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Of the highest order. There was a load heartbreak in that race but by far the biggest tragedy is that Aussie-Italian blowhard can claim to be a MotoGP winner.

Hah. I can't stand the cunt, but good on him. A win is a win!

[pritch]

by far the biggest tragedy is that Aussie-Italian blowhard can claim to be a MotoGP winner.

Oooh yer a hard man James. I thought the boy was Aussie/Kiwi, has an Italian jumped the fence? The journos like him, they say he's "old school", swears like a trooper and is a quote generator. He put in a good ride. He might have expected he'd receive congratulations from Nakamoto san, but he might have got a bollocking for taking five points off Marquez. :whistle:

One interesting statistic that was posted by one of the pundits: every single MotoGP rider fell at at least once at some point in the weekend. Just as well they've got three weeks until the German GP to get over the bruises.

For those interested in paying for a Dorna video pass: from memory the German GP is the ninth. After the summer break the Austrian GP will be the beginning of the second half of the season. Click on "Video Pass" top right on the MotoGP websiite to see what they're charging. Unless you're feeling rich, ignore the multi screen and other extras. They are currently offering twenty Euros off for access, but that's not much of a bargain if they are going to drop another thirty after the next round. That "if" is important though.

[denill]

Hah. I can't stand the cunt, but good on him. A win is a win!

Remember. Miller was born in Hawkes Bay

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/motor-sport/jack-miller-goes-from-riding-minibikes-in-townsville-to-luxury-lifestyle-of-motogp-star/news-story/b00ac1a796c72973e38f2437e23be749

[merv]

Remember. Miller was born in Hawkes Bay

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/motor-sport/jack-miller-goes-from-riding-minibikes-in-townsville-to-luxury-lifestyle-of-motogp-star/news-story/b00ac1a796c72973e38f2437e23be749

Were you born in the Bay too Bill?

[James Deuce]

Oooh yer a hard man James. I thought the boy was Aussie/Kiwi, has an Italian jumped the fence? . He's spent more time in Italy than NZ and accidentally slips from English to Italian to from time to time. Or twoime to twoime as a good Aussie would say. The journos like him because he's an idiot who can't keep his mouth shut. There's calling a spade a spade and then there's calling a spade, "the thing we hit Grandad on the head with and then used to to dig a hole to put him in because he kept forgetting where his teeth were". Jack Miller is good at the second one.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Remember. Miller was born in Hawkes Bay

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/motor-sport/jack-miller-goes-from-riding-minibikes-in-townsville-to-luxury-lifestyle-of-motogp-star/news-story/b00ac1a796c72973e38f2437e23be749

Yeah knew he had a bit of Kiwi in him. Doesn't make him any less of a cumdumpster.

[Rcktfsh]

Remember. Miller was born in Hawkes Bay

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/motor-sport/jack-miller-goes-from-riding-minibikes-in-townsville-to-luxury-lifestyle-of-motogp-star/news-story/b00ac1a796c72973e38f2437e23be749

He was born in Townsville in 1995, his parents moved from HB to Townsville in 1988.

[pritch]

He's spent more time in Italy than NZ and accidentally slips from English to Italian to from time to time.

He must be more multi lingual than I thought, he's been reported as living in the north of Spain for a year or three now. Whether he speaks any Spanish, or Catalan like the locals, I have no idea. I suppose we could ask him? As mentioned in the commentary he was in the IoM for a couple of weeks as a guest of Cal Crutchlow, but Spain is his home away from home.

There was previous discussion here about where he was born and that seemed to indicate that his older sibling was born in NZ, but Jackass was born in Oz.

[denill]

Were you born in the Bay too Bill?

Yes Merv. But the similarity ends there.......

[merv]

Yes Merv. But the similarity ends there.......

Same here, I just wasn't sure you were born there when I knew you way back when.

[speights_bud]

So should Rossi have been flagged for not having the red light? It wasn't on from the start of the first race. (They turned it on for the second race.)

Pretty straight forward safety issue. Gve the team given time to tell him to turn it on? or a ride-through to fix it?

Rule 2.4.4.2 (12d)
d) able to be switched on and off by the rider when seated on the machine.

It got pretty bad at times with the bikes and the spray being thrown up. Riders should be able to see, but not so easy when you expect it to have a dazzling light attached...

Thoughts? :jerry:

[Mike.Gayner]

Well that race was shit. There is no justice in these restart rules.

[merv]

So should Rossi have been flagged for not having the red light? It wasn't on from the start of the first race. (They turned it on for the second race.)



Yeah, get the Spanish mafia to disqualify him from say the next three rounds and then start from the back of the grid for the three after that lol :lol:

[speights_bud]

Yeah, get the Spanish mafia to disqualify him from say the next three rounds and then start from the back of the grid for the three after that lol [emoji38]
I have no doubts that the Spanish Mafia were to blame for Dovi and Rossi's wee accidents later in the day....

[BMWST?]

That'll learn me for letting personalities get the better of me. I did toy with the idea of putting a tenner on him knowing he's good in the wet. Think he was paying $500-1. Good on him though. And how many here said MM would bin it in the wet?
He was 1000-1 at one point they said!

[BMWST?]

You a hard bunch you fellas.Lorenzo himself has said he is hopeless uf the grip is low and or unpredictable.Miller has shown he has talent. For those that dislike him get over it.It is not a popularity contest.Half you didn't like the last aussie either

[BMWST?]

So should Rossi have been flagged for not having the red light? It wasn't on from the start of the first race. (They turned it on for the second race.)

Pretty straight forward safety issue. Gve the team given time to tell him to turn it on? or a ride-through to fix it?

Rule 2.4.4.2 (12d)
d) able to be switched on and off by the rider when seated on the machine.

It got pretty bad at times with the bikes and the spray being thrown up. Riders should be able to see, but not so easy when you expect it to have a dazzling light attached...

Thoughts? :jerry:
Doesnt matter now.

[Crasherfromwayback]

He was 1000-1 at one point they said!

Yeah. Hopefully someone somewhere made themselves a nice earn from the win!


.Miller has shown he's a total fuckhead

I know right!!??

[Autech]

Fucking epic race. Was a shame they red flagged the first as Dani and others were coming on strong. Bizarre how they red flagged it when the riders seemed happy.

So stoked to see Miller perform, totally in control of the bike, he rode with purpose.
Great to see the emotion from him after the win, top notch, always knew he had it in him.
You cunts that think he's a cunt, just remember he's a cunt who rode that bike incredibly well and did something that hasn't been done in a wee while.


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[Reckless]

I was shouting at the TV careful Rossi your pushing to hard, just manage the gap.........then 1/2 a lap and Bang down he went :(
Followed by a whole lot of expletives mainly containing you've blown it you silly old .........!
Ah well my son turned and said Dad what did you tell me all those years "To finish first first you must finish"
Rossi blew it but what a race had all the elements and drama aye :)
Moto2 was even exiting great night racing I reckon.

Not a Miller fan, but good on him, last eight laps where damn near perfect!
Patrucci tried, Redding tried, but Miller bought home the win.
Lorenzo's getting back the Karma he been giving out.
MM well he was coming at them before the restart and rode how he needed to ride for the Championship.

Rain aye the great leveler. Bring on the next round :)

[James Deuce]

You a hard bunch you fellas.Lorenzo himself has said he is hopeless uf the grip is low and or unpredictable.Miller has shown he has talent. For those that dislike him get over it.It is not a popularity contest.Half you didn't like the last aussie either
I thought Stoner was a class act and freakishly talented who had the balls to quit when he lost his motivation.

Miller crashes and burns as much as Iannone but at the opposite end of the field and for some reason has a fanbase out of touch with his real capabilities. The win in a race where people made bad tactical decisions and fell off left, right, and centre, is an anomaly. The bad sportsmanship at the end of his final Moto3 season was pointless and small-minded. He's about as engaging a sportsman as the Chappell brothers.

Aleix Espargaro put a comparatively less capable motorcycle into places it shouldn't have been. Miller is finishing, when he does, exactly where his customer bike should finish, EXCEPT for a race where professionals lost their rhythm and seemingly turned their brains off. And yet Aleix got the boot.

I think there's a better chance of Iannone learning how to stop crashing than Miller learning how to be fast on a MotoGP bike.

[Autech]

I thought Stoner was a class act and freakishly talented who had the balls to quit when he lost his motivation.

Miller crashes and burns as much as Iannone but at the opposite end of the field and for some reason has a fanbase out of touch with his real capabilities. The win in a race where people made bad tactical decisions and fell off left, right, and centre, is an anomaly. The bad sportsmanship at the end of his final Moto3 season was pointless and small-minded. He's about as engaging a sportsman as the Chappell brothers.

Aleix Espargaro put a comparatively less capable motorcycle into places it shouldn't have been. Miller is finishing, when he does, exactly where his customer bike should finish, EXCEPT for a race where professionals lost their rhythm and seemingly turned their brains off. And yet Aleix got the boot.

I think there's a better chance of Iannone learning how to stop crashing than Miller learning how to be fast on a MotoGP bike.

So last year was his first on a GP bike, it was the open Honda which no one managed to ride well... Great introduction. He's now on the customer Honda which even the aliens are struggling with with all the best engineers and technicians helping. The same bike which Redding couldn't ride last year.
This year he fucked up royally in the off season (he's young after all) and smashed his ankle, it is only now getting better and his results are starting to show it. He got tenth in Catalunya, was taken out in Mugello and crashed lots before then.
Lets just wait and see what the next few races bring before writing him off, we may be only just starting to see now what Miller can do on a GP bike.
We are all quick to praise Maverick Vinales, but where was he when the rain poured down?

Back with Lorenzo.

I agree on Aleix Espagaro getting dumped though, I hope Suzuki have a big crash budget.


Really enjoyed the podium ceremony, was hilarious when MM jumped on the back of Mr VDS to stop him running away from Miller.

[Erelyes]

if Mm crashs i think photo guy will taken his keys out the scotter ;-):baby:

He gave him a thumbs up and a wave if you look at the reply, as if to say "off ya go"

[pritch]

Half you didn't like the last aussie either

Funny enough it seems to be the other half. I just feel it's too early to write Miller off. How flash would we have looked if we had to grow up in front of cameras. In another season or so we should have an idea whether the "project" is working. As has been pointed out the MotoGP bikes he has had have not been easy.

Stoner was a brilliant rider but his strange upbringing left him unprepared for life in the public gaze. He had a simple but effective psychological approach for each race, but was fragile otherwise. Everything except riding pissed him off, and that's his fault. He seems to be enjoying himself now though, he's currently in Italy. If he's there for World Ducati Week he may not enjoy that quite so much. I'd still like to see him do some wildcard rides.

[actungbaby]

Fucking epic race. Was a shame they red flagged the first as Dani and others were coming on strong. Bizarre how they red flagged it when the riders seemed happy.

So stoked to see Miller perform, totally in control of the bike, he rode with purpose.
Great to see the emotion from him after the win, top notch, always knew he had it in him.
You cunts that think he's a cunt, just remember he's a cunt who rode that bike incredibly well and did something that hasn't been done in a wee while.


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I know there precious suzuki vinales hasint won a race in moto gp where was he or any o the duckatis.

[actungbaby]

Funny enough it seems to be the other half. I just feel it's too early to write Miller off. How flash would we have looked if we had to grow up in front of cameras. In another season or so we should have an idea whether the "project" is working. As has been pointed out the MotoGP bikes he has had have not been easy.

Stoner was a brilliant rider but his strange upbringing left him unprepared for life in the public gaze. He had a simple but effective psychological approach for each race, but was fragile otherwise. Everything except riding pissed him off, and that's his fault. He seems to be enjoying himself now though, he's currently in Italy. If he's there for World Ducati Week he may not enjoy that quite so much. I'd still like to see him do some wildcard rides.

Yes i cant understand how they havent put him on the bike already only way way going win any races this year.

Also being a professinal Moto gp rider is akin to being ceo of a your brand and the pressure must be huge to suceed.

probley more if you won a title and your expected to 100% at ever practice you can see how aged previous champions

I think mental challenges to improve times by hundreds seconds I dont think many have that abilty to be honest.

I think that more than abilty and confidence is what makes these so called (aliens] world champions

I dont think chould call him fragile and person can do what he has mentally just human nature something going give cant be perfect like a robot.

[actungbaby]

He gave him a thumbs up and a wave if you look at the reply, as if to say "off ya go"

yeah i thought he whould of i was only joking why whouldint you it be cool to be part of making history really

its mm to loose know the champiship i think ride by the numbers and bring the title back to Honda

[roogazza]

PUBLISHED
14 hours ago
Crutchlow: “I feel I would have won the race”

Crashalot seems to say this quite often. If only huh ??? :rolleyes::laugh:

[pritch]

its mm to loose know the champiship i think ride by the numbers and bring the title back to Honda

Yeah Marquez has a big lead. So too does Binder, but we aren't quite at the half way point yet so there are more points to come than have been awarded so far. There are still gaps of three or four weeks between races but in the second half of the season some races come in quick succession and an injured rider can easily miss several races. Then too the gremlins can go after them as with Danny kent.

Doohan won a title after three DNFs so it is not impossible.

[Autech]

Yeah Marquez has a big lead. So too does Binder, but we aren't quite at the half way point yet so there are more points to come than have been awarded so far. There are still gaps of three or four weeks between races but in the second half of the season some races come in quick succession and an injured rider can easily miss several races. Then too the gremlins can go after them as with Danny kent.

Doohan won a title after three DNFs so it is not impossible.

That's the one, and in 2014 from memory he had a fair few DNF's in the 2nd half of the season, so perhaps some of the tracks don't suit him as well. But if he placed 2nd in all the next races with Dani occasionally finishing ahead of either of the Yams, the championship is his.

[pritch]

Ducati are testing at Misano tonight and tomorrow night our time, Stoner and Pirro presiding. Aprila will also be testing and IIRC Sam Lowes will get his first ride on a MotoGP bike.

World Ducati Week will follow the test.

[actungbaby]

Yeah Marquez has a big lead. So too does Binder, but we aren't quite at the half way point yet so there are more points to come than have been awarded so far. There are still gaps of three or four weeks between races but in the second half of the season some races come in quick succession and an injured rider can easily miss several races. Then too the gremlins can go after them as with Danny kent.

Doohan won a title after three DNFs so it is not impossible.

Yes your right of course its not over to the fat lady sings i guess thats a opera saying .

Who whould thought at the start of the year as mm says . do you get the feeling yamaha wont be 100 % behind Lorenzo

It seems daft but whouldint hey want the tittle . i whould thought you back you riders no matter what.

Its going be exciting esp if goes to the wire like last year, in 80,s 90,s seemed be always one year yam then honda,s turn.

Remember back to worst years only being 12 bike on the grid. got pretty bad. looking alot better with ktm and apprila

[denill]

Matt Oxly wrote:

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/jackass-joins-aussie-pantheon

[pritch]

Here's Number 27 on track, we haven't seen that for a while.

[EJK]

Here's Number 27 on track, we haven't seen that for a while.

Do you think he'll ever race again in MotoGP?

[pritch]

Do you think he'll ever race again in MotoGP?

The possibility has been mentioned, but there are problems. He'd need to be fully up to speed by having done enough riding. Ducati will have his times from testing so they will know whether he's ready or not.

There are "political" problems as has already been mentioned. The current factory riders might get their noses out of joint if a test rider was beating their lap times. Then again, the factory may decide their 'stars' need a hurry up?

Odds are it won't happen but it'd be really interesting if it did. And it might sell some Ducatis so...

Afterthought: GP16s are in short supply. If it was late enough in the season though, say Phillip Island in October, he could possibly score of a brace of GP17s?

Oh, and it isn't just the number on that bike. There was a photo of an engraved metal plate with "Stoner" on it.

[Moise]

Do you think he'll ever race again in MotoGP?
I heard he was offered Petrucci's bike when he was injured but said no. But I won't be surprised if he races at PI.

There's probably something in Lorenzo's contract that says Stoner isn't allowed on a factory Ducati. :)

[denill]

The point that's been made, that the 27 plate could be Ducati's best chance of a win in 2016 is very valid. He is already an employee.

[Moise]

True, can't see a factory Ducati winning unless they get Stoner on it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

. But I won't be surprised if he races at PI.
)

Not sure Stoners ego would let him want to get beaten at PI.


True, can't see a factory Ducati winning unless they get Stoner on it.

I reckon Crazy Joe will win one before seasons end. Poss even PI.

[pritch]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/231735/1/casey-stoner-completes-very-positive-misano-test.html

“The next few days are going to be really interesting. I haven't been to World Ducati Week for a long time!” Stoner said. “It's hard to remember what it was like back then, but now I'm looking forward to the whole weekend and seeing so many fans, everyone who turns up, the amount of bikes


Who are you? What have you done with Casey?

[EJK]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/231735/1/casey-stoner-completes-very-positive-misano-test.html

“The next few days are going to be really interesting. I haven't been to World Ducati Week for a long time!” Stoner said. “It's hard to remember what it was like back then, but now I'm looking forward to the whole weekend and seeing so many fans, everyone who turns up, the amount of bikes


Who are you? What have you done with Casey?

What was he like previously?

[Autech]

What was he like previously?

WAAAHHHH WAAAAAHHHH WAAAAAAHHHHH THE WIDDDDLEE FWAAAANNNNSSS ALWWWWWAAAYYYY BWOOOTHHEEERRRRIIIINGGGG MEEEEEE. WAAAAAAHHHHH AAAHHHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA :crybaby::crybaby::crybaby::crybaby::crybaby::cryb aby::crybaby::crybaby:

IIII JUSSSSSSTTTTT WAAAANNNNNAAAA WACE THE MOOOOTACYCCLLLEEESSSSS WWWAAAAAHHHHHAAHAHAAAA :crybaby::crybaby::crybaby::crybaby::crybaby:

To which the world all got out their violins :violin:

[Dave-]

There are "political" problems as has already been mentioned. The current factory riders might get their noses out of joint if a test rider was beating their lap times. Then again, the factory may decide their 'stars' need a hurry up?

If the test rider isn't at least as fast as the racers then how do Ducati know whether their riders are capable of riding any faster than the test rider?

In engineering a tester should test the software/device/machine under all possible circumstances, for a motogp bike this includes the fastest lap times. The bike will be no good if under some lap time the wheels fall off will it?

[Crasherfromwayback]

[
Who are you? What have you done with Casey?

He certainly looks pretty relaxed and happy nowadays that's for sure.

[onearmedbandit]

If the test rider isn't at least as fast as the racers then how do Ducati know whether their riders are capable of riding any faster than the test rider?

In engineering a tester should test the software/device/machine under all possible circumstances, for a motogp bike this includes the fastest lap times. The bike will be no good if under some lap time the wheels fall off will it?

No disrespect but do you think Yamaha's test riders are as fast as Rossi and Lorenzo, or Honda's test riders as fast as Marquez?

[Erelyes]

Honda's test riders as fast as Marquez?

We have quantitative data on that from last season (Aoyama).... he wasn't even close to Dani, let alone MM.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Honda's test riders as fast as Marquez?

Last year sure! :headbang:

[pritch]

If the test rider isn't at least as fast as the racers then how do Ducati know whether their riders are capable of riding any faster than the test rider?

In engineering a tester should test the software/device/machine under all possible circumstances, for a motogp bike this includes the fastest lap times. The bike will be no good if under some lap time the wheels fall off will it?

Generally the test riders are not as quick as the GP riders and it isn't uncommon for faults to appear at a race which haven't appeared in testing because the pace is that much quicker. Or the rider is taller, shorter, weighs less or whatever. That's probably partly why the racers get a few chances to test the bikes themselves. Although that testing is strictly limited now in the name of cost savings.

Mike DiMeglio is testing for one of the factories, I seem to remember him clinching a title at Phillip Island and while he may have been able to compete with Lorenzo in the smaller classes I wouldn't see him doing that now. Presumably nobody else does either or he'd be racing not testing.

[Brett]

I would love to see Stoner back. Liked the guy back when, like him now. I reckon he would still be a pack leader.

Well done to MM for pulling off the win last weekend...he did bloody well.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I would love to see Stoner back. Liked the guy back when, like him now. I reckon he would still be a pack leader.

Well done to MM for pulling off the win last weekend...he did bloody well.

Think we all would. And I have no doubt he'd still be at the pointy end. Shame we're never gonna see it. He looks far too happy and relaxed doing what he is now. Enjoying his millions and hot wee wife!

[Grumph]

Generally the test riders are not as quick as the GP riders and it isn't uncommon for faults to appear at a race which haven't appeared in testing because the pace is that much quicker. Or the rider is taller, shorter, weighs less or whatever. That's probably partly why the racers get a few chances to test the bikes themselves. Although that testing is strictly limited now in the name of cost savings.

Mike DiMeglio is testing for one of the factories, I seem to remember him clinching a title at Phillip Island and while he may have been able to compete with Lorenzo in the smaller classes I wouldn't see him doing that now. Presumably nobody else does either or he'd be racing not testing.

Didn't one of Aprilia's test riders get a wildcard ride in the 250 italian a few years back - and win it....muttering something like "I'm too old for this shit' in Italian?

Edit - memory says a win but I could be wrong, podium at least though.

[pritch]

Enjoying his millions and hot wee wife!

Adriana says she still likes to watch him ride.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Adriana says she still likes to watch him ride.

Who wouldn't. He is poetry in motion.

[merv]

Well done to MM for pulling off the win last weekend...he did bloody well.

You mean coming second to Jack don't you?

[merv]

As for Stoner I always liked him especially the after race press conferences with his no bullshit approach and also talking "we" as in the team all the time. Those that called him moaner were the Poms and Europeans I reckon who didn't get his Aussie humour, particularly the Rossi fans that didn't like the ambition and talent thing.

Others say he was no good with the fans and maybe he wasn't so keen on some of them, but he met his mrs when she was only 14 at Phillip Island and he signed his autograph on her stomach - so he was happy to mix with some fans huh!

[Crasherfromwayback]

As for Stoner I always liked him especially the after race press conferences with his no bullshit approach and also talking "we" as in the team all the time. Those that called him moaner were the Poms and Europeans I reckon who didn't get his Aussie humour, particularly the Rossi fans that didn't like the ambition and talent thing.

!

We he got the factory Ducati and wasted every cunt to win the title, it was all "Stoner simply uses the Ducati's electronics and opens the throttle fully etc etc", none of them could handle the fact, that he was simply too fucking good, and fully deserved the title. The Rossi fans took his direct answers as moaning, but in fact, I can't really recall him moaning about many things at all. They (the haters) were all proven wrong regarding his use of electronics, and proven to be full of shit dreamers. So they simply stuck to the moaner bit, thinking it gave them something to be right about. All the while, backing one of the sports sorriest ever losers and cheats. One who's moaned more often and louder than any cunt ever. Go figure...

[actungbaby]

Here's Number 27 on track, we haven't seen that for a while.

Know its a good sight for sure

[actungbaby]

[QUOTE=merv;1130983315]As for Stoner I always liked him especially the after race press conferences with his no bullshit approach and also talking "we" as in the team all the time. Those that called him moaner were the Poms and Europeans I reckon who didn't get his Aussie humour, particularly the Rossi fans that didn't like the ambition and talent thing.

You got it in one its just a cultural thing i never had any probelm mixing with all races just people maybe my irish dna

I heard people say oh there snobs they dont look you in eye its bs its just there bloody low key and being poilte people can be such dicks

say hi hello speak for god sakes

[merv]

No sign of any moaning in this podium talk as an example:

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[merv]

No moaning in this podium talk either:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vitchzEMqSc

[Crasherfromwayback]

No sign of any moaning in this podium talk as an example:

>

Best overtake I've ever seen in my life that race. Balls the size of water mellons. Even Jorge shat himself, and he was the one being passed!

[Brett]

You mean coming second to Jack don't you?

Sorry, yes...am aware that he got second...I meant to say finishing on the podium! (SECOND winner, or first loser...depending on your position on the matter).

[Dave-]

No disrespect but do you think Yamaha's test riders are as fast as Rossi and Lorenzo, or Honda's test riders as fast as Marquez?


Generally the test riders are not as quick as the GP riders and it isn't uncommon for faults to appear at a race which haven't appeared in testing because the pace is that much quicker. Or the rider is taller, shorter, weighs less or whatever. That's probably partly why the racers get a few chances to test the bikes themselves. Although that testing is strictly limited now in the name of cost savings.

Mike DiMeglio is testing for one of the factories, I seem to remember him clinching a title at Phillip Island and while he may have been able to compete with Lorenzo in the smaller classes I wouldn't see him doing that now. Presumably nobody else does either or he'd be racing not testing.

Yes yes, sorry guys, meant to pose that more as a genuine question. My thought was that Stoner may not want the stress associated with racing every two weeks, let alone the politics. I imagine testing is less frequent, less stressful, more structured and essentially no politics. So if he's faster then the racers then that would be a really valuable goal, kinda of like the Honda/Audi method I mentioned a few weeks back except here Stoner is a real human, not a simulation. If the simulator/test rider can do it, then you can do it, if you cannot do it, then you are a part that needs replacing.

[James Deuce]

(SECOND winner, or first loser...depending on your position on the matter).

Cunt #1 and Cunt #2.

Happy Sunday.

[onearmedbandit]

Yes yes, sorry guys, meant to pose that more as a genuine question. My thought was that Stoner may not want the stress associated with racing every two weeks, let alone the politics. I imagine testing is less frequent, less stressful, more structured and essentially no politics. So if he's faster then the racers then that would be a really valuable goal, kinda of like the Honda/Audi method I mentioned a few weeks back except here Stoner is a real human, not a simulation. If the simulator/test rider can do it, then you can do it, if you cannot do it, then you are a part that needs replacing.

Possibly, but that could also turn the bike into one that only he can ride fast, which is something that was brought up about the Ducati. Guess it's a big balancing act.

[speights_bud]

Details are sketchy, but DP appears to be enjoying some street riding during the break...

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[Autech]

Details are sketchy, but DP appears to be enjoying some street riding during the break...

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I fucking knew it would be that clip before I even clicked lol


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[actungbaby]

Hope not a double post


http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/marquez-says-newfound-consistency-a-result-of-2015-mistakes-793772/

[george formby]

Hope not a double post
]


The big smile on MM's face finishing second for the last three races reeks of a rider focused on the title. MM is getting wiser and no doubt Honda will increase the bike's competitiveness.
Watch that space, I reckon.

[BMWST?]

i think it plain the honda is already better now than when they started

[pritch]

God knows where it is now, but overnight I read that three of the factories (Honda, Yamaha and Ducati?) are heading to Sepang for testing this weekend.
The track has been resurfaced along with changes to camber and curbing(?). The test is primarily to ascertain how the Michelins handle the new surface.

[Mental Trousers]

God knows where it is now, but overnight I read that three of the factories (Honda, Yamaha and Ducati?) are heading to Sepang for testing this weekend.
The track has been resurfaced along with changes to camber and curbing(?). The test is primarily to ascertain how the Michelins handle the new surface.

WSBK raced on the resurfaced track a few weeks ago. It's definitely improved, especially the last corner. Although many would say doubling the amount of negative camber is a horrible idea it actually works really well. There's been changes at just about every corner.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/230271/1/zaffelli-explains-new-turn-15-at-sepang.html

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bayliss getting it all wrong at World Ducati Week...

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[Mental Trousers]

WSBK raced on the resurfaced track a few weeks ago. It's definitely improved, especially the last corner. Although many would say doubling the amount of negative camber is a horrible idea it actually works really well. There's been changes at just about every corner.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/230271/1/zaffelli-explains-new-turn-15-at-sepang.html

One of the intentions of changing the last corner was to slow people onto the straight so that they get to the first turn a bit slower. However, it's had the opposite affect, they're getting to turn 1 faster now. Seems they're slower through turn 15 but are able to get on the throttle earlier and harder than before so they end up faster at the end of the straight.

[Drew]

One of the intentions of changing the last corner was to slow people onto the straight so that they get to the first turn a bit slower. However, it's had the opposite affect, they're getting to turn 1 faster now. Seems they're slower through turn 15 but are able to get on the throttle earlier and harder than before so they end up faster at the end of the straight.

On the positive side, ya can't go in hot and block pass someone on the last lap to take the win any more.

[EJK]

He maybe an idiot on the track sometimes but, I mean, is he actually gay? I'm following him on Facebook and time to time "friendly" shots get posted on the page timeline. I'm not homophobic, just curious.

[Jin]

He maybe an idiot on the track sometimes but, I mean, is he actually gay? I'm following him on Facebook and time to time "friendly" shots get posted on the page timeline. I'm not homophobic, just curious.
Based on rep comments i get there are plenty of faggots on kb who can satisfy your "curiosity".

[onearmedbandit]

He maybe an idiot on the track sometimes but, I mean, is he actually gay? I'm following him on Facebook and time to time "friendly" shots get posted on the page timeline. I'm not homophobic, just curious.

Not according to his own bio. Europeans tend to have less hang ups about same sex friendships than most other parts of the world.

http://www.andreaiannone.com/biography.aspx

[ellipsis]

...of what relevance is the overall theme of the post on here...just curious!...

[pritch]

'S funny. I follow Maniac Joe on Twitter and he hasn't posted those pics there that I recall. Rossi got lumbered with a gay meme without even posting pics like that.

This current thread just accentuates the point that we need a race to give us something apposite to discuss? :innocent:

[pritch]

OK in the absence of a race this: MM and Pedro take a couple of RC213V-S bikes to Austria.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWWZYxcZXWs

[speights_bud]

OK in the absence of a race this: MM and Pedro take a couple of RC213V-S bikes to Austria.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWWZYxcZXWs
Looks like an interesting circuit alright.

It is also nice to hear Dani talking about on track in a positive and enthusiastic way, no pressure to perform on that day .

[Erelyes]

Bayliss getting it all wrong at World Ducati Week...

Doing the second burnout was inspired. 'See, you can biff it up the road, and still give it a hiding afterwards'.

[pritch]

At last! The GP paddock is on the move.

Michelin are bringing an asymmetric front which is apparently the object of some speculation.

[Mental Trousers]

Michelin are bringing an asymmetric front which is apparently the object of some speculation.

Asymmetric fronts haven't gone down too well in the past. The riders don't like how it different it feels on one side to the other. That was with Bridgestone though so be interesting to see how the Michelin asymmetric goes.

[pritch]

MM
VR
JL

Or not?

[Autech]

MM
VR
JL

Or not?

JM? :D


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[roogazza]

This next one is a great GP, so my German mates say.
I've yet to get there,maybe next year.It's one that is fully booked out with around 130 thousand spectators.
love those loooong corners.:cool:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mm

dp

vr

mv

[BMWST?]

mm,jl,vr,dp,mv
I think Mr Lorenzo will be very motivated

[pritch]

JM? :D



If it rains that wouldn't be outa the question. It's those oiled dirt tracks the Strines learn on.

[pritch]

mm,jl,vr,dp,mv
I think Mr Lorenzo will be very motivated

There was a Dorna post overnight saying that JL wants to get back to a winning streak. Rossi also wants a better result than last time.
A peek at MM's record at this track though suggests that if he keeps it shiny side up he should win.

2015 MotoGP 1st
2014 " 1st
2013 " 1st
2012 Moto2 !st
2011 " 1st
2010 125cc 1st
2009 125cc 16th

Any other rider looking at that list must be fucking depressed, unless they decide that the 16th in 2009 provides cause for optimism. :whistle:



Update: The weather in Western Europe is crap. David Emmett planned to ride his bike to the GP and he was looking out the window at pissing rain wondering if he'd made the right choice. The photos ovenight looked depressing and the forecast for Sunday is rain. Although the weathermen don't always get the next days forecast right let alone several days out.

[roogazza]

Results:

Pos. Num. Rider Bike Time Gap 1st Prev.
1 93 Marc MARQUEZ Honda 1'21.160
2 8 Hector BARBERA Ducati 1'21.572 0.412 0.412
3 46 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha 1'21.666 0.506 0.094
4 9 Danilo PETRUCCI Ducati 1'21.666 0.506
5 44 Pol ESPARGARO Yamaha 1'21.738 0.578 0.072
6 25 Maverick VIÑ‘ALES Suzuki 1'21.784 0.624 0.046
7 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Ducati 1'21.858 0.698 0.074
8 41 Aleix ESPARGARO Suzuki 1'21.883 0.723 0.025
9 29 Andrea IANNONE Ducati 1'21.890 0.730 0.007
10 26 Dani PEDROSA Honda 1'21.892 0.732 0.002
11 99 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha 1'22.088 0.928 0.196
12 68 Yonny HERNANDEZ Ducati 1'22.346 1.186 0.258
Results of Q1
Q2 9 Danilo PETRUCCI Ducati 1'21.712
Q2 99 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha 1'21.737 0.025 0.025
13 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW Honda 1'21.783 0.071 0.046
14 38 Bradley SMITH Yamaha 1'21.994 0.282 0.211
15 45 Scott REDDING Ducati 1'22.236 0.524 0.242
16 43 Jack MILLER Honda 1'22.382 0.670 0.146
17 6 Stefan BRADL Aprilia 1'22.493 0.781 0.111
18 50 Eugene LAVERTY Ducati 1'22.567 0.855 0.074
19 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA Aprilia 1'22.670 0.958 0.103
20 76 Loris BAZ Ducati 1'22.860 1.148 0.190
21 53 Tito RABAT Honda 1'23.075 1.363 0.215

[Autech]

Good quali. JL looks to be slipping out of contention. Fell in both qualis!


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[Crasherfromwayback]

Good quali. JL looks to be slipping out of contention. Fell in both qualis!


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Looks to be having a bit of a confidence crisis....

[Drew]

Looks to be having a bit of a confidence crisis....

I wonder if he isn't trying to ride differently in preparation of getting on the Ducati. Prolly not though, he's still got a shot at the #1 plate this season.

[pritch]

There were some odd front end crashes, Lorenzo says one of his was a mistake because he hadn't warmed the front tyre properly. It didn't look as if was doing anything wrong but down he went. Again. Three crashes in a weekend is very unusual for him.

David Emmett has been trackside with John Laverty again:
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2016/07/16/john_laverty_s_pace_notes_sachsenring.html

And the forecast is still for rain.

[James Deuce]

There were some odd front end crashes, Lorenzo says one of his was a mistake because he hadn't warmed the front tyre properly. It didn't look as if was doing anything wrong but down he went. Again. Three crashes in a weekend is very unusual for him.

David Emmett has been trackside with John Laverty again:
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2016/07/16/john_laverty_s_pace_notes_sachsenring.html

And the forecast is still for rain.
One of them was because he was a bit imprecise with the curb in the fastest corner on the track.

[James Deuce]

he's still got a shot at the #1 plate this season.
I just squirted coffee out of my nose. His head is done in. If he recovers and does take the #1 plate, that's an achievement worthy of a champion. He's managed to Gibernau himself though. I think we'll see a season on the Ducati and then retirement.

[Crasherfromwayback]

One of them was because he was a bit imprecise with the curb in the fastest corner on the track.

Agree 100%. Ran a terrible line and paid the price.


I just squirted coffee out of my nose. His head is done in. If he recovers and does take the #1 plate, that's an achievement worthy of a champion. He's managed to Gibernau himself though. I think we'll see a season on the Ducati and then retirement.

Agree 0%. I think you underestimate the man.

[James Deuce]

Agree 0%. I think you underestimate the man.

Which bit do you agree with? The bit worthy of a champion if he undoes his head damage? Or the bit where he's Gibernau'ed himself?

[Crasherfromwayback]

He's managed to Gibernau himself though. I think we'll see a season on the Ducati and then retirement.

Don't agree with any of that.


Which bit do you agree with? The bit worthy of a champion if he undoes his head damage? Or the bit where he's Gibernau'ed himself?

He's already a three times Moto GP Champion. Think he's already proved to us he's no Gibernau. You know the old saying..."Form is temporary, class is permanent"

[onearmedbandit]

Moto3 WUP just about to finish, very wet conditions.

[Dadpole]

Bloody 'ell. What a dilemma trying to pick a top 3 for this.

If wet:
VR
DP
MM

[puddytat]

Vale
Petrux
MM....

DNF for Jlo cause he 's lost his mojo bro.....

[Erelyes]

JLo 20th fastest (if you can call it 'fastest') in warm up.

Paying $31 at the TAB!

[puddytat]

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.........is every motherfucking cunt bastard on the planet playing fucking pokemon retard game...wheres me fucking motoGP gone.!!!
Right Im going to blow Nintendo up first thing tomorrow morning.
Fuck you & your retard augmented reality. bastards!!

[WNJ]

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.........is every motherfucking cunt bastard on the planet playing fucking pokemon retard game...wheres me fucking motoGP gone.!!!
!

Watching it stream ok on my device:Punk:

[Grashopper]

The Moto3 race was fun. Did that guy even realise he was on a bike and not on a jetski? :gob:

[pritch]

The Moto3 race was fun. Did that guy even realise he was on a bike and not on a jetski? :gob:

He did the same thing last time it was wet. He goes for it regardless, and must give the team palpitations. I was wondering if he could see the pit board through his misted fairing. He looked over his shoulder as he crossed the line, but there was nobody in the same county.

[mulletman]

Honda rolled the dice and MM does the rest impressive..

Gotta feel for Scott Redding so close for a podium

Good work from Jack Miller to

[Drew]

Rossi waited way too long to come in.

[EJK]

Not a fan of MM but riding a GP bike like a mx bike was impressive. Great save.

[James Deuce]

Not a fan of MM but riding a GP bike like a mx bike was impressive. Great save and win.
Spoiler Alert! But yeah, that was otherworldly.

[puddytat]

Seeing Briggs wave his hands in frustration was quite a telling moment during the race....I wonder if they told off you know who after the race:mad:
Someones arrogance & desperation got the better of him maybe....?

[pritch]

Seeing Briggs wave his hands in frustration was quite a telling moment during the race....
Someones arrogance & desperation got the better of him maybe....?

The guy I saw wave his arms in frustration was Brent Stevens, the Kiwi in the crew.

None of that leading bunch were going to come in, they were totally involved with racing each other. They had no idea that MM suddenly had a rocket up his arse. I've never done it, but the experts say reading a pit board isn't always easy, especially in the wet and when it's placed close to a blind corner. Some of the riders have said they didn't even try during the race.

Rossi must be aware of what happened now because he wants to float the idea of radio coms at the next safety meeting. Apparently that was tried early in the MotoGP period but not considered worthwhile. Difficult to see how it would work with the noise level.

Funny comment of the weekend was attributed to Crutchlow. A dignitary presented him with a ring for the fastest lap around the "Ring".
"Sorry mate, I'm already married".

[Autech]

As far as Rossi was concerned he was racing the guys around him, until they went in he did the right thing and kept with them. Any one of us would have done the same. Frustrating for his crew as they knew something he didn't, that slick tyres were fucking rapid.
That said MM was on the limit and could have easily crashed, so lets not kid ourselves that we know better than any of them.

Once again MM showed why he is where he is, he is gelled with his crew like very few other riders, that's why he's got that Honda hooked up better than Pedrosa and that is why they knew to fit slick tyres for him. Motogp is a team sport after all.

Jack Miller raced a very mature race too, stoked to see him finish well again. As for Lorenzo, WTF? I mean the man has shown he can win in the wet before, but all I can see now is a man not able to perform when the skies open, which in theory could happen at every round of the year so he's going to have to work on that mes thinks.

I can't see the point of intermediates unless the track is raining on one side of the circuit and not the other. I mean it's either wet and raining or wet and drying...

[sugilite]

Wow, what a master class performance by MM and the Honda team.
Was surprised Valentino got sucked into the "must beat the guy in front" and not think about the overall race. I wonder if his pit crew had put MM+ 6 if he would of got it?
Redding just lost the plot when CC went past, gave up for a few seconds and gave a sure podium away.
Lorenzo may have class, but as he gets older has less and less mongrel in him to overcome issues. If his ducks do not line up, then he is nowhere. I'm picking the Ducati will suck all his confidence out of him nest year.

[EJK]

As for Lorenzo, WTF?

So much for a 3 times reigning world champion...

Well at least given his 3 crashes during the weekend he didn't make whiny excuses and admitted his faults. I give him that.

[Autech]

So much for a 3 times raining world champion...


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Yes, I did go there. :bleh:

[EJK]

Corrected for pun implementation.


Yes, I did go there. :bleh:

His dignity went down the drain? :innocent:

ba dum tss!

[malcy25]

Wow, what a master class performance by MM and the Honda team.
Was surprised Valentino got sucked into the "must beat the guy in front" and not think about the overall race. I wonder if his pit crew had put MM+ 6 if he would of got it?
Redding just lost the plot when CC went past, gave up for a few seconds and gave a sure podium away.
Lorenzo may have class, but as he gets older has less and less mongrel in him to overcome issues. If his ducks do not line up, then he is nowhere. I'm picking the Ducati will suck all his confidence out of him nest year.

Rossi, yeah, have yet to watch and am a big fan, but I suspect he tends to race by the seat of pants once on the bike. Misano last year, he stayed out too long and ignored the team call to swap. One of his few foibles I suspect.

[Autech]

His dignity went down the drain? :innocent:

ba dum tss!

His performance was a wash out and he rode like a wet behind the ears rookie. I'd hate to rain on his parade but he's looking like he's on a slippery track to losing this title.

I can do this all day.

[pritch]

Jack Miller's thoughts on the Sachsenring, the race, the meaning of life and what's on next week.

It seems that he has swelled the ranks of riders residing in Andorra.

http://www.redbull.com/au/en/motorsports/motogp/stories/1331806550447/jack-miller-his-review-on-motogp-round-9-in-germany

[Autech]

Jack Miller's thoughts on the Sachsenring, the race, the meaning of life and what's on next week.

It seems that he has swelled the ranks of riders residing in Andorra.

http://www.redbull.com/au/en/motorsports/motogp/stories/1331806550447/jack-miller-his-review-on-motogp-round-9-in-germany

He's been there a while. Puts some cool pics up on fb


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[Crasherfromwayback]

How much cock are you MM haters eating now? Prob the same amount as when you had Stoner to hate.

Eat.

A.

Dick.

[Drew]

How much cock are you MM haters eating now? Prob the same amount as when you had Stoner to hate.

Eat.

A.

Dick.
I don't understand where this came from.

[ellipsis]

I don't understand where this came from.

...probably from the same direction as, 'carbondicks boyfriend has just fucked up again'...

[Crasherfromwayback]

I don't understand where this came from.

For someone that thinks this site doesn't have enough personal abuse anymore, you sure have gone soft yaself!:crazy:

[Badjelly]

How much cock are you MM haters eating now? Prob the same amount as when you had Stoner to hate.
Eat. A. Dick.


I don't understand where this came from.

It came from Crasher. 'Nuff said.

[pritch]

How much cock are you MM haters eating now? Prob the same amount as when you had Stoner to hate.


The Stoner haters are still around. During the weekend Stoner posted on Twitter that Scott Redding was wearing gloves and boots the same as his own new items. The Stoner haters came out to play, and he copped a serve of abuse.

Apparently he didn't realise that Redding is the GP rider now, and he Stoner, is the one in the "replica" kit.

I probably wouldn't have taken any notice of Reddings extremities but for the excitement. Nah. Didn't like the colour.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It came from Crasher. 'Nuff said.

Thank you! The day we can't abuse each other in this thread will be a sad day indeed.

[onearmedbandit]

Thank you! The day we can't abuse each other in this thread will be a sad day indeed.

Typical tripe from you, wouldn't expect anything less :msn-wink:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Typical tripe from you, wouldn't expect anything less :msn-wink:

Thanks! Must say, that was one of the classiest race wins I've ever seen.

[onearmedbandit]

Thanks! Must say, that was one of the classiest race wins I've ever seen.

Hey cut that out, don't want to start agreeing with you too much.

[Moise]

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/marquez-took-a-lot-of-risks-on-way-to-german-gp-victory-799606/

So it wasn't a great strategy call, mostly luck. And the ability to get heat into slicks on an almost nonexistent dry line! I doubt that any other rider could have got those tyres working like Marquez did.

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[pritch]

Thank you! The day we can't abuse each other in this thread will be a sad day indeed.

But some care is needed. Seemingly random posts sent after midnight, around the time of a full moon, can ummm create an impression(?). :innocent:

[jasonu]

Thank you! The day we can't abuse each other in this thread will be a sad day indeed.

You're all a pack of thick cunts!!!

[Drew]

For someone that thinks this site doesn't have enough personal abuse anymore, you sure have gone soft yaself!:crazy:

I had read the post wrong and thought you'd only mentioned Stoner, ya fucken fanboy.

[Crasherfromwayback]

But some care is needed. Seemingly random posts sent after midnight, around the time of a full moon, can ummm create an impression(?). :innocent:

Yeah entertaining myself whilst waiting for the GF to get out of the fucking bathroom!


You're all a pack of thick cunts!!!

Too right.


I had read the post wrong and thought you'd only mentioned Stoner, ya fucken fanboy.

Fucking Sifter!

[actungbaby]

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/marquez-took-a-lot-of-risks-on-way-to-german-gp-victory-799606/

So it wasn't a great strategy call, mostly luck. And the ability to get heat into slicks on an almost nonexistent dry line! I doubt that any other rider could have got those tyres working like Marquez did.

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I read where yamaha camp moaning and saying the honda pushs its front end that,s why has advantage of getting tires up to temp

crikey talk about weak excuse . whats with that crazy joe seemed to kick out with his foot into another rider when left the pits

what a dick .also rossi was saying was mistake to go to inter tires he just chouldint get going so that was more of a mistake
from the team not him i guess . was a cool race to watch . the moto 2 was crazy all those crashes .

[Moise]

Seems we're in F1 tyre territory now with everyone talking about getting heat into the tyres. That seems to be the problem with the Michelin fronts - no feel when cold.

Assen was a mess with the 2 races but this one will go in the Marquez highlights reel!

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[pritch]

Seems we're in F1 tyre territory now with everyone talking about getting heat into the tyres. That seems to be the problem with the Michelin fronts - no feel when cold.


The Bridgestones didn't work when cold either. Remember a few years back when Rossi slowed for bit, then when he went back to race pace the bike spat him off and he broke his leg. There was also an occasion at Phillip Island with the wind seemingly coming straight from the Antarctic, the Bridgestones couldn't get up to temp and the riders were all complaining it was dangerous.

Not sure about race day, but this last weekend there were a lot of crashes in practice due to the low temperatures. The pundits were saying that Michelin had brought the right tyres but the conditions were unexpectedly cold. Too warm they won't last, too cold they won't work; it would seem there is a fairly restricted performance envelope for race tyres.

And you still occasionally come across someone on KB who is using race tyres on a road bike. Good luck with that! :whistle:

[Badjelly]

The Bridgestones didn't work when cold either....And you still occasionally come across someone on KB who is using race tyres on a road bike. Good luck with that! :whistle:

Where can I get race tyres for the Scorpio? Today looks perfect for them. :shit:

Seriously, i remember this Aussie bloke who was quite good at getting warmth into the tyres. Perhaps Yamaha should get him.

PS: to the Firefox/Kiwibiker spelling checker, yes I do mean "tyres".

[puddytat]

crikey talk about weak excuse . whats with that crazy joe seemed to kick out with his foot into another rider when left the pits

.

Looked to me that Crutchlow did the same when he passed one of the satellite dukes ...

[Moise]

Where can I get race tyres for the Scorpio? Today looks perfect for them. :shit:

Seriously, i remember this Aussie bloke who was quite good at getting warmth into the tyres. Perhaps Yamaha should get him.

PS: to the Firefox/Kiwibiker spelling checker, yes I do mean "tyres".
They are getting a real Spanish rider next year, so that could be interesting. Something tells me Vinales isn't going to like the current M1. It took Rossi a year and supposedly hours of study of Lorenzo's lap data before he could get any speed out of it.

[roogazza]

Yeah entertaining myself whilst waiting for the GF to get out of the fucking bathroom!

PREGNANCY TEST ??? :confused: Oh Boy !

[Oscar]

How much cock are you MM haters eating now? Prob the same amount as when you had Stoner to hate.

Eat.

A.

Dick.

Switch.

To.

Decaffeinated.

[george formby]

The thought has grown for me over the last few races that MM is truly racing with his heart and his head this season. Less red mist but more points.

No doubt the debacle of last season occupied many hours of discussion over the winter.

If Honda come to the party MM could start a dynasty.


Re tyres? The teams can't use different pressures. Fix the tyres I say.

[Crasherfromwayback]

PREGNANCY TEST ??? :confused: Oh Boy !

Hardly mate.


Switch.

To.

Decaffeinated.

Don't even do coffee! Was wondering where you'd been you Old Goat! Not looking too good for your man to make it ten sorry. Think MM may do though...:innocent:

[codgyoleracer]

Wow, what a master class performance by MM and the Honda team.
Was surprised Valentino got sucked into the "must beat the guy in front" and not think about the overall race. I wonder if his pit crew had put MM+ 6 if he would of got it?
Redding just lost the plot when CC went past, gave up for a few seconds and gave a sure podium away.
Lorenzo may have class, but as he gets older has less and less mongrel in him to overcome issues. If his ducks do not line up, then he is nowhere. I'm picking the Ducati will suck all his confidence out of him nest year.

Yep - Tend to agree the +6 idea may have been worth a shot, as it would be easy to get sucked into the "im part of the lead group - and MM aint in it train of thought"
Redding was on inters? - had no chance, - but i do like his syle on a bike.
Gotta say MM had big balls in those early laps with a wet track in sections of the track - very impressive.
CC

[pritch]

Looked to me that Crutchlow did the same when he passed one of the satellite dukes ...

Yeah i saw that, it was Scott Redding IIRC. It did look a bit odd at the time, almost as if he aimed a kick at Redding's front wheel. We heard several times what great mates Crutchlow and Miller are, haven't heard how CC and Redding get on.

[russd7]

just watched the moto2 race, what a finish, but high attrition rate. still a bloody good race especially given the dampness.

starting to lose faith in lorenzo, should be able to ride in the rain. but gotta take ya hat off to MM, that young fella has some seriously big dangley bits to start pushing the slicks as quick as he did.

another good night of racing

[jasonu]

Hardly mate.:

Back door only?:niceone:

[trev]

From Motomatters
"There is persistent paddock gossip that Stoner is using this test to gauge his competitiveness, with a view to racing as a wildcard at the Austrian Grand Prix. Given Stoner's long association with Red Bull, and the fact that nobody has raced at the Red Bull Ring (except for Valentino Rossi, who raced a 125 there in 1996 and 1997, and Jack Miller, who raced a 125 there in 2011 in the German IDM championship), it gives him the best chance of being competitive."
Please let it be true.

[sharp2183]

I don't post on this thread but feel compelled to now there are rumours of Stoner racing next round. I'm actually going to be next door riding in Hungary but a quick trip to The GP would be seriously tempting... Stoner is a riding idol of mine. I love how people hate him and love that he does what he wants. Mentally stronger than most fans I'd wager.

[pritch]

It was thought prior to the test that the Ostereichring would favour Ducati. Basically it resembles a series of drag strips with a few corners. Two left and the remainder right?

The top riders are concerned about the safety of the track, Marquez and Rossi among others have expressed concern at the limited run-off. Some of the run-off is painted so things won't slow down much at all, particularly in the wet.

[Autech]

It was thought prior to the test that the Ostereichring would favour Ducati. Basically it resembles a series of drag strips with a few corners. Two left and the remainder right?

The top riders are concerned about the safety of the track, Marquez and Rossi among others have expressed concern at the limited run-off. Some of the run-off is painted so things won't slow down much at all, particularly in the wet.

Yeah I have driven it on a racing sim, not much of a track to be honest so was surprised to hear they would be going there. Very old track too so i'm guessing not very safe.


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