Tales from the Emporium [Archive] - Page 4

cooneyr

8th May 2008, 13:00

.......
We've created a monster!
You just can't leave the carb alone now can you :D

:whistle:never :D I've discovered that it is very easy to "adjust" the card and have had good results so far (much more mid range - I want low end and mid range there is plenty of top end for the riding I do). I have a feeling I can do better still using the info MX_robs thread re getting rid of the lean spot just of idle, getting the needle in the right position (and stopping needle/needle jet wear which isn't good at the moment) and getting the pilot screw set correctly (very easy now I know how to do it).

The only modification I've made so far that is not easily reversed is the hole in the slide (which I do doubt the worth of) and the only other one I plan at this stage is the spring cut. Maybe one day I'll get the ktm 640 needle and make an extra hole in the air box but for now I want to get the stock parts to work correctly.

It seems that Suzuki were so close with the Yanky spec and with three very minor improvements can make the bike not only run better have less wear in the carb!!!! Interesting that MX-rob found the stock yanky main and pilot jets to perfect for the close to stock set up though - who needs dyno jet jets :whistle:

Cheers R

NordieBoy

8th May 2008, 17:27

who needs dyno jet jets :whistle:

Anyone who has opened their airbox up :whistle:

NordieBoy

10th May 2008, 16:58

Should be good for a couple of HP :D

marks

10th May 2008, 17:50

Should be good for a couple of HP :D

homemade or what?

Padmei

10th May 2008, 19:58

was that you riding along pasr atawhai about 430 pm sat avo nordie?

cooneyr

10th May 2008, 19:59

Did the 7mm spacer, pilot jet and spring cut today. The spring cut works really really well. I can now ride around at 45kph in third gear the the bike is running smoothly. The spring makes a huge difference to smoothness.

I measured how much the needle was protruding from the bottom of the slide before and after the mod. The needle is about 3mm higher with the mode so I'm not sure about the needle lift yet. I'll give it a tank full and see what happens to the fuel economy before I make a judgement on this. The wear on the needle and needle jet means it is probably a bit rich. Seems to pull well but I wouldn't say it has strong wheely grunt though -feels very similar to when the needle was 3mm lower.

Cheers R

NordieBoy

10th May 2008, 21:50

was that you riding along pasr atawhai about 430 pm sat avo nordie?

;)

Testing out the high-flow header up to the Whangamoa Saddle and back.

NordieBoy

10th May 2008, 21:52

Did the 7mm spacer, pilot jet and spring cut today. The spring cut works really really well. I can now ride around at 45kph in third gear the the bike is running smoothly. The spring makes a huge difference to smoothness.

7mm spacer? Ah yes...
I didn't do that as I felt that by shortening the spring about 3mm (or less) you're increasing stiffness and reducing preload which will let the slide respond quicker off the bottom but slower through the midrange.

Just realised I've been riding around for a week with the needle and spacer in my pocket :doh:

cooneyr

11th May 2008, 09:07

7mm spacer? Ah yes...
I didn't do that as I felt that by shortening the spring about 3mm (or less) you're increasing stiffness and reducing preload which will let the slide respond quicker off the bottom but slower through the midrange.

Just realised I've been riding around for a week with the needle and spacer in my pocket :doh:

Dont worry. After reading all 61 pages of MX_robs thread I realised that I need to stay with the 6f23 needle anyway.

I'm half tempted to get a set of plastic washers about .5mm thick and make a stack 6.5mm thick. This is to allow for the wear in the needle and needle jet i.e. needle .5mm lower and the plastic stack so I can easily adjust the height. I have to file a spacer to length at the moment which is a PITA.

Cheers R

Padmei

11th May 2008, 09:16

;)

Testing out the high-flow header up to the Whangamoa Saddle and back.

mate you looked like a greek god aboard your steed. All the women in a 10km radius simultaneously turned at the sound of that manly exhaust note and sighed as you rode into the sunset.

NordieBoy

11th May 2008, 09:37

mate you looked like a geek god aboard your steed. All the women in a 10km radius simultaneously turned at the sound of that manly exhaust note and sighed as you rode into the sunset.

The manly exhaust is in the shed :D

Whilst taking off the exhaust yesterday I was reminded just how heavy the stocker is...

7.5kg vs 2.5kg supertrapp.

Padmei

12th May 2008, 07:44

whats a supertrapp worth?

NordieBoy

12th May 2008, 08:58

Worth? Bugger all.
Cost? About $300 new.

NordieBoy

12th May 2008, 09:06

homemade or what?

Homemade-ish...

High flow in that the air will now flow past it faster now it's shiny :D

<img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080510%20Header%20shine/slides/20080510-124346-000003.jpg>

<img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080510%20Header%20shine/slides/20080510-152816-000008.jpg>

marks

12th May 2008, 12:24

Homemade-ish...

High flow in that the air will now flow past it faster now it's shiny :D

wont it rust?

NordieBoy

12th May 2008, 16:31

wont it rust?

The stock header is stainless :devil2:

NordieBoy

18th May 2008, 21:13

Right...
Just accidently (honest) did the Ben Nevis - Boundary Road loop today.
The loop itself is just over 11km but there's about 10km of gravel up the Wairoa Gorge from Brightwater to get to the start and another 4-5km of Pig Valley gravel out the other end into Wakefield as well.

http://photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/trails/tracks/Ben Nevis - Boundary Rd Loop.kml

It's been added to my Google Earth <a href="http://photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/trails/trails.kmz">TRAILS DATABASE</a> as well.

Pretty much all forestry roads (public easement) with the odd challenge section if so inclined :D

You can spend all day up there if you wanted...

marks

19th May 2008, 21:22

whats Eighty Eight Valley Rd like?

cooneyr

19th May 2008, 21:52

whats Eighty Eight Valley Rd like?

Just recently about 1/3 of the gravel was sealed. Still it is better than the highway with all the other vehicles. Some fun open by winding sections for that "I'm a motard god" feeling.

Cheers R

twotyred

20th May 2008, 06:54

Right...

http://photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/trails/tracks/Ben Nevis - Boundary Rd Loop.kml
...

I just get HTML gibberish when I open that page

Oh I see why now,it's a kml page.. as you were :Oops:

NordieBoy

20th May 2008, 07:34

Just recently about 1/3 of the gravel was sealed. Still it is better than the highway with all the other vehicles. Some fun open by winding sections for that "I'm a motard god" feeling.

Cheers R

We were doing a classic mx about half way up 88 Valley once and my brother needed to zap around to Pig Valley to get some spares and took my Nordie.

When he got back the mirror had vibrated loose (from slightly excess speed) and he had this stupid grin on his face and said "man I'm glad I don't have one of them, I'd be in soooo much trouble". :D

NordieBoy

20th May 2008, 08:03

marks

20th May 2008, 08:17

NordieBoy

20th May 2008, 08:44

whats wrong with bar risers?

They is already rizzed pretty much as far as they can be with the stock cables...
That was Project IXV :D

<img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20071205%20Bar%20clamps%20and%20front%20guard/slides/20071205-092738-000005.jpg>

Seated the bars are at the right height for me but standing I'm hunched over too much.
It's the peg to seat distance that needs tuning now.

talbertnz

20th May 2008, 08:54

cooneyr

20th May 2008, 09:06

Time to do something to make it easier to stand without being so hunched over.

2.5cm down and 2.5cm back.
1cm thick steel...
It will hang down a bit but only as much as the shock linkages.
Any rock that gets in it's way will have the bruises to show for it.

Haha - I knew that was comming. Saw the posts on Adv Rider yesterday. Let me know what you think. This is one mod I'm thinking of giving ago and can easily do in the shed as home.

Cheers R

NordieBoy

20th May 2008, 09:41

i like the idea of putting the pegs lower as it will improve the seating position for those gifted with long legs. incl myself. feel its wee bit buched up at the moment, also i guess it will lower the center of gravity a bit too esp. when standing. Wats the reason you want to put the further back? would you have to mod the rr brake and shift lever?

The DR pegs are quite close to the bars and I find myself holding the bars quite close to my body which dosn't feel as stable as I'd like esp. compared to my XR250.
I'd also like a little more weight over the rear wheel when going up steeper hills.

How about adjustable ones then :D

NordieBoy

20th May 2008, 09:42

Haha - I knew that was comming. Saw the posts on Adv Rider yesterday. Let me know what you think. This is one mod I'm thinking of giving ago and can easily do in the shed as home.

Cheers R

It was first posted a while ago and the other option was the MaxKool style cutting/welding the pegs but that just lowers them and isn't reversable.

Don't like the idea of using 6mm alloy though :D
I think the original used 1cm steel.

And I found an old CAD drawing of my Nordie dash and thought "that was fun, hmmm, I'll give it a burl."

cooneyr

20th May 2008, 11:02

The DR pegs are quite close to the bars and I find myself holding the bars quite close to my body which dosn't feel as stable as I'd like esp. compared to my XR250.
I'd also like a little more weight over the rear wheel when going up steeper hills.

How about adjustable ones then :D

With the adjustable ones make sure the head of the bolts holding the plates to the frame don't clash with the peg risers. You might need spacers (couple of washers) or a bolt head grind to get around this.

The other positive I see about this is that the pegs should be further out from the bike and should support my size 13's more evenly rather than just the inside 30mm or so.

Cheers R

marks

20th May 2008, 14:09

They is already rizzed pretty much as far as they can be with the stock cables...
That was Project IXV :D
Seated the bars are at the right height for me but standing I'm hunched over too much.
It's the peg to seat distance that needs tuning now.

Hmmm a DR650 with ape hangers....

Is the little slide in mount cable tied to the bars for your vid camera?

NordieBoy

20th May 2008, 16:42

Hmmm a DR650 with ape hangers....

Is the little slide in mount cable tied to the bars for your vid camera?

eTrex Legend mount.

NordieBoy

20th May 2008, 16:44

With the adjustable ones make sure the head of the bolts holding the plates to the frame don't clash with the peg risers. You might need spacers (couple of washers) or a bolt head grind to get around this.

That's where the 2.5cm down comes in.
You should be able to have them directly below and still clear the bolt heads.

The other positive I see about this is that the pegs should be further out from the bike and should support my size 13's more evenly rather than just the inside 30mm or so.

Yep. The slightly wider stance is a bonus too.

NordieBoy

30th May 2008, 08:12

RK 525 XSO

About 8500km and it's shot.
Dead.
Gone.
It's an ex-chain.

First noticed it having problems coming back from the Mangarakau ride with jatz when I was hearing a lot of noise and feeling the vibes through the footpegs and it took 2 steps on the adjuster to re-tension it.

After tuesdays 250km ride around Nelson with marks it needed 3 steps to re-tension and has a few tight links.

The DID x ring that was on the bike when I got it did over 30000km and never got this bad.

NordieBoy

30th May 2008, 08:16

My little bro says it's about time we went around the spooners again as the last time we did it was my first ride on my XR250 and Shane was on the Nordie and we did over 100km of pure(ish) gravel and forestry roads/firebreaks/bogs/shell piles :scooter:

NordieBoy

30th May 2008, 08:27

I got up bright(ish) and early(ish) on tuesday and headed off through the Maungatapu to meet marks in Pelorus for a hot choccy (with 2 marshmallows) for a day of riding.

The Maungatapu was a bit slippery in the 6-7 deg temps but we got back to Nelson without issues.

A quick stop at home to check tyre pressures and drop off some luggage and we were off...

We headed off around the Coastal Highway to Apple Valley Road, Old Coach Road, Riverside, Chings, Waiwhero, Rosedale, Orinoco (my first complete bike slide due to diesel), Mt Arthur, West Bank, Sunday Creek, Dovedale Hill, Church Valley, Pig Valley, Wairoa Gorge and back home via the Port Hills.

Temps went from 6-20-7 deg through the day.
250km in 6 1/2 hrs of cruising and taking photos.

I had to take out about 2 hours of gravel as we didn't have time.
As it was, we only finished at about 6:30pm.

A good fun day mate, glad you could stop by.

NordieBoy

30th May 2008, 08:33

Looks like that if you want to "hunt" in the forestry around the Spooners Range you just need to drop in to the guardhouse at the MDF plant and ask for a "hunting" permit (dunno about cost).

Remember to sharpen an end of a tyre iron for sticking pigs though :D

NordieBoy

30th May 2008, 19:24

New RK 525 XSO chain went on today.
Whites want my old one back to have a look at it.

Much less vibes through the footpegs now :D

NordieBoy

1st June 2008, 21:36

Went for a tiki-tour up Northbank Road with the intention of maybe finding out how to get up past Lake Chalice to Mt Patriarch but only got as far as Pine Valley/Mill Flat before I had run out of time (5 hours riding from NSN-NSN as it was).

The first 3 shots are from Mill Flat and then from Havlock and the Maungatapu Summit.

tri boy

1st June 2008, 22:47

Ow cum you get sun rays dancing on water, an I git f00king fog n rain.
you got some kind of connection wit da weather gods DR boy?:Oi:

NordieBoy

1st June 2008, 23:14

We have an understanding.
They give me good weather when I need it and I don't publish the nazi orgy photos.

NordieBoy

1st June 2008, 23:26

The weather on Tuesday with marks was a bitch too...

That ride went from 6-18-7 deg over the day.
Friday over to Pelorus was 3 deg turning up to the caretakers up the Maitai.
Today was 10 deg at the same spot.

:D

Shot from Flora Carpark.

marks

2nd June 2008, 00:06

deanohit

2nd June 2008, 08:27

Shot from Flora Carpark.
I've got that same shot on film, but with the trees covered in snow, been a few years since I was up there. :niceone:

GaZBur

5th June 2008, 09:02

Hi Nordie
I just looked back to see what speedo you put on your DR and followed your link to the ACE-3100 (http://www.acewell-meter.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?osCsid=094de918c1405deb3c5c771994 e5ed73&currency=UKP&cPath=47&products_id=118&osCsid=094de918c1405deb3c5c771994e5ed73)
I am just trying to get some 17in wheels fitted so need a speedo and better still a tacho. Are you still happy with yours and if not what would you change to? I have no plans for creating a SuperNordieWonderDash just need the basics for legal WOF reasons - but would love a Tacho for the track.
By the way thanks to you and others for the advice from this thread and the DR650 thread, I have learned heaps in the last year.
GaZBur.

NordieBoy

5th June 2008, 13:00

I'm happy with mine but I'd go with the Trailtech Vaypor(sp?).
They're available in NZ as opposed to getting it from overseas.

There's one on TradeMe at the moment with the DR mounting kit.
Speedo/RPM/temp/shift-light etc.

Bonus with the Acewell is that it bolts to the existing speedo backing plate and doesn't require an adapter.

NordieBoy

10th June 2008, 21:23

Just got some new gloves (Scott Sandiego - Red) and some neoprene grip washers to try and prevent blistering.

Got a Classic MX this weekend and a 3-hour Cross Country next.

JATZ

10th June 2008, 21:35

Just got some new gloves (Scott Sandiego - Red) and some neoprene grip washers to try and prevent blistering.

Got a Classic MX this weekend and a 3-hour Cross Country next.

Where's the classic ?

NordieBoy

11th June 2008, 07:26

Where's the classic ?

Hinetai Road Tapawera (The hop gardens on the right just before Tap coming up through from Stanley Brook).
Racing from 10am to 3:30pm.
Kids track as well.

JATZ

11th June 2008, 20:17

Hinetai Road Tapawera (The hop gardens on the right just before Tap coming up through from Stanley Brook).
Racing from 10am to 3:30pm.
Kids track as well.

might see you there then:niceone:

NordieBoy

11th June 2008, 21:15

might see you there then:niceone:

What year is the Big?

You may be able to race :devil2:

JATZ

11th June 2008, 21:31

20 years old this year, I donn't think it's quite a classic but I have a part worn tkc80 in the shed I might be able to get on it if the need arrises

NordieBoy

15th June 2008, 07:47

Race day and I'm as nervous as an English rugby supporter.

Should have some better video footage 'tho as I've finally mounted the camera on the helmet :D

GO THE HONDAS!

Padmei

15th June 2008, 09:33

take no prisoners Nordie

I wouldn't mind getting an old thumper to play around with off road & do the odd event.

NordieBoy

15th June 2008, 19:09

That was fun.
Not as much fun as the ANZAC classics meet but still fun.
I had to stop after 7 races as I couldn't hold onto the bars properly through the bumps anymore :D

NordieBoy

15th June 2008, 19:32

Also had to take the DR around for a lap when they were pulling the track in.

I blew past the CR80 on the straight/sweeper - looser :D

JATZ

15th June 2008, 21:51

Was on my way there Nordy but Mrs JATZ took a wrong turn, the results are below.:Oops:
Maybe next time I'll drive

NordieBoy

16th June 2008, 07:38

Was on my way there Nordy but Mrs JATZ took a wrong turn, the results are below.:Oops:
Maybe next time I'll drive

A bit of flooding on the Moutere Highway then :D

NordieBoy

18th June 2008, 20:21

Oh dear :(

As of today I'm only half the boy I was.

(Bling for anyone who can work that one out :D)

GaZBur

18th June 2008, 20:34

Oh dear :(

As of today I'm only half the boy I was.

(Bling for anyone who can work that one out :D)
You have sold one of the Nordies? Was it painful?

NordieBoy

18th June 2008, 21:30

Yeah it was painful.
A guy over in Blenheim has got one he's going to race and needed one for parts.

Well, at least it's not my baby...

The one in the front is the one that sold (broken cambelt and whonoze what else :().

<img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/nordwest/slides/2-nordies-2.jpg>

I kept this one...

<img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/nordwest/HighGuard/slides/higuard-2.jpg>

NordieBoy

20th June 2008, 18:46

It's exhausting work this stuff.

NordieBoy

21st June 2008, 12:43

Forcast for rain all day for the 3-hour cross country.

Got the roll-offs on and more importantly the camera mounted :D

NordieBoy

21st June 2008, 22:37

Forcast is for...

"Rain, heavy and thundery falls with hail. Northerlies."

:(

Kornholio

21st June 2008, 23:11

This must be the longest 'newbie thread' I've ever seen :D

Welcome aboard Nordie :p

p.s Nelson is cool, have a heap o rellies down there :D

twotyred

22nd June 2008, 07:00

Forcast is for...

"Rain, heavy and thundery falls with hail. Northerlies."

:(

sounds perfect!:rofl:good luck!:ride:

NordieBoy

22nd June 2008, 08:34

It's the 45min ride just to get to the start line I'm not looking forward to and another one of them to get home after 3 hours of racing in the mud on a drum braked bike :D

marks

22nd June 2008, 10:35

It's the 45min ride just to get to the start line I'm not looking forward to and another one of them to get home after 3 hours of racing in the mud on a drum braked bike :D

I thought I saw a nice warm dry looking van sitting in your back yard - thats what I wold be in :)

we expect lots of high quality photos

NordieBoy

22nd June 2008, 17:52

Van? I've only got my learners for the car :(

That was the toughest most exhausting race I've ever done.
Mud, mud, mud and for variety, clay.

A 1979 XR250 was possibly the worst choice of bike.
It's a tractor and works best at low and mid revs and to get up the slopes/hills/north face of the eiger you needed lotsa revs to dig down and also keep the knobs clear. Get it right and the section may take 5 seconds. Get it wrong and it may take 5 minutes.

Rained on and off throughout the race but only lightly.

My 1st lap was mainly spent pushing up hills and resting at the tops.
My 2nd lap was a bit better and there were 2 hills I got up first time :)
My 3rd lap was my best. I only got stuck on 4 sections and came past the finish line in about 3hr 5min.

I spent 15min getting up 1 hill on the 1st lap.

Most people lapped me whilst I was still on my first lap but I finished and quite a few didn't. They probably did more laps than me though.
Warewolf kept lapping me regularly :D

My helmet cam didn't want to turn on for the start of the race so no pics or movies :(

It's working fine now of course.

Dinner time....

Bye bye...

NordieBoy

23rd June 2008, 08:11

I rode home in my MX gear and waterproof kayak top as it was covered in mud and I couldn't be bothered changing.
At Foxhill someone turned the lights onto dim and it started to rain.
Just before Wakefield the big light in the sky went out and it was like hitting a solid wall of water.
Within seconds the rain was inside my visor and visibility had reduced to about 20m and there were still cars without lights on!
It took about 3 seconds of this before I was completely soaked through and getting a bit cold.
3 hours of on and off rain and creek crossings during the race hadn't managed to get the water through my boots to my bread bag protected footsies. They were now soaked.

The ride home was almost harder than the race.

GaZBur

23rd June 2008, 09:51

I rode ...was covered in mud ....dim and it started to rain......like hitting a solid wall of water...rain was inside my visor and visibility ...20m ...3 seconds ...completely soaked through ...cold. 3 hours of on and off rain and creek crossings during the race ....footsies....soaked.

The ride home was almost harder than the race.

Sounds like a heap of fun. Bikers are funny, I bet that in two weeks time it will be all fond memories and a laugh! We can put up with a heap of discomfort for a few moments that are jewels of memory.

Nice one Nordie, its good to see people having a go!

NordieBoy

27th June 2008, 18:10

Helmet-cam time...

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JATZ

27th June 2008, 18:51

:clap::clap::2thumbsup

Padmei

27th June 2008, 19:29

wahoo go Nordie. Thank god you weren't leading!!

NordieBoy

27th June 2008, 20:22

Leading makes for boring footage :D

Transalper

27th June 2008, 20:51

Leading makes for boring footage :D

Indeed it does, as does getting left so far behind you can't see anyone anymore. I sometimes struggle with these issues a bit with the guys down here when adventuring with camera.

NordieBoy

27th June 2008, 21:40

Indeed it does, as does getting left so far behind you can't see anyone anymore.

Or if the camera is broked.

:D

That Black Birch Track footage would have been sweet.

I went to turn the camera on whilst heading over to the shotgun start at the 3-hour and it wouldn't turn on at all.
Just needed the batteries popping and reinserting :(
Didn't have the time though...

deanohit

28th June 2008, 18:48

Very cool Nordie!

FLYMO

28th June 2008, 18:51

hey nordy its flymo here
met u today
how much for the heated grips?

NordieBoy

28th June 2008, 20:02

What heated grips?

marks

28th June 2008, 20:55

Cool video - was with your oregon scientific thingy?

I hope you didn't choose the music because you liked it.....

NordieBoy

28th June 2008, 21:02

Cool video - was with your oregon scientific thingy?

I hope you didn't choose the music because you liked it.....

Yep - ATC2K 320x200 @ 15fps.
Next MX race I'll try 640x480 @ 30fps.

It's helmet mounted now and in no way involves drilling a 4mm hole in the helmet and drilling and milling an appropriate hole in the ATC mount and bolting it to the helmet next to the metalwork from the chinstrap.
No not at all.

I'm working my way through the different popcorn versions on my vids :D
That was the Hot Butter techno mix from 1999.

warewolf

29th June 2008, 12:08

That was the toughest most exhausting race I've ever done.
Mud, mud, mud and for variety, clay.
...
Warewolf kept lapping me regularly :D...and I was too busy trying to stay upright that I didn't even notice!! It was very, very greasy everywhere, which made it a lot of fun. Glad I had pretty decent tyres. I reckon it was as hard as the 6 hour last year, run in similar weather conditions - but with a better surface so it wasn't as intense.

Very, very good practice for bike control.

deanohit

29th June 2008, 12:45

Yep - ATC2K 320x200 @ 15fps.
Next MX race I'll try 640x480 @ 30fps.
Ah, was thinking it may have been Youtube, as mine was clearer than that in the short time I've used it, good to see it's still a reasonable quality still on the lower settings.

NordieBoy

29th June 2008, 13:19

Over 3hours of footage at 320x240-15

I'll find out next weekend.
1st round of the South Island Classic MX Series.

deanohit

29th June 2008, 14:31

Over 3hours of footage at 320x240-15

I'll find out next weekend.
1st round of the South Island Classic MX Series.
Yea? What size is your memory card?
I've got a 2gb, I think it takes an hours footage on the highest settings.

NordieBoy

29th June 2008, 17:04

Yea? What size is your memory card?
I've got a 2gb, I think it takes an hours footage on the highest settings.

Yep an hour on 640x480@30fps
3 hours on 320x240@15fps

NordieBoy

2nd July 2008, 09:03

The ATC3K is out and the ATC5K is on the way :D

Uses 4Gb cards finally and the 5K will have a small screen on the back :D

Nordy

2nd July 2008, 09:06

Now thats awesome, gotta look into one of them.

NordieBoy

2nd July 2008, 09:27

4Gb brings it up to 2 hours of 640x480@30fps footage.

Nordy

2nd July 2008, 09:30

how long do the AAs last though? especially on the ATC5K with the view screen?

couldnt find anything that said how long batterys will last just that it took AA batteries.

will still be cool though. can use it for mountain biking as well as motorbiking

NordieBoy

2nd July 2008, 09:43

It can be used for everything.
The video quality isn't the best and the sound is awful but people keep using them :D

The batteries (I use 2300maH AA's) last about 3 hours - less when it's cold.

Nordy

2nd July 2008, 09:51

sweet, i have a heap of energiser rechargeables which I can probably use in the camera.

Will wait and see when the ATC5K comes out and how reviewers find it first :P

deanohit

2nd July 2008, 10:48

Damn, just after I get an ATC3K as well, I would much rather have waited for this!

NordieBoy

2nd July 2008, 17:38

Damn, just after I get an ATC3K as well, I would much rather have waited for this!

Swap ya my 2K for the 3K and you won't feel as bad :D

deanohit

2nd July 2008, 18:04

Swap ya my 2K for the 3K and you won't feel as bad :D
Sorry, no deal! :lol:

NordieBoy

5th July 2008, 12:54

OK...

This was the view from home this morning.
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So I quickly cancelled all my plans and jumped on the mighty DR and headed off up the Maungatapu.

The view going up the track was amazing.
Nikau and cabbage tree fronds covered in snow with the dark background and the track winding through the snow dusted manuka.
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I thought "Right, I'll get those photos on the way back cause there'll be a 4wd up my chuff if I keep stopping for shots.

At the summit it was sweeeeet...
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Some obligatory bike poseing...
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Some bike and me poseing...
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Some of the local vegetarian wildlife...
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And then my camera battery died due to the cold.

Hope it's freezing tonight :D

chanceyy

5th July 2008, 13:06

great pics Nordie .. heard on the radio it was snowing in Nelson .. :clap:

deanohit

5th July 2008, 13:20

Very nice, been a fair while since I was up the Mangatapu last in my 4wd.
Cool shots mate.

cooneyr

5th July 2008, 15:13

Did you happen to see a tan swb 40 series (late 70's/early 80's) Landcruiser as you were heading down. They were gunning for you but missed :D

Cheers R

NordieBoy

5th July 2008, 16:26

Nope. I was going far to fast to notice anything :D

Padmei

5th July 2008, 17:18

Was it icy/really slippery or ok to ride on. I'd love to go overin the snow but didn't think It'd be possible to stay upright.

NordieBoy

5th July 2008, 17:28

No problem at all.
Mostly just a wet track with some boggy slick clay bits and a few icy bits but no problems even with my bald rear tyre.
You're only riding on the snow at the summit.

marks

5th July 2008, 21:13

No problem at all.
Mostly just a wet track with some boggy slick clay bits and a few icy bits but no problems even with my bald rear tyre.
You're only riding on the snow at the summit.

Are you trying to make a back tire last as long as one of your oil changes??

Great photos :)

NordieBoy

5th July 2008, 23:35

It's a 2nd hand tyre so it dosn't count :D

NordieBoy

15th July 2008, 08:52

Testing my new helmetcam mount up the Maungatapu.
It was pointed a little lower than I'd have liked but the sound has no induced vibration this time and what little audio there is actually came out(ish).

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deanohit

15th July 2008, 09:37

What setting was it on Nordie?

NordieBoy

15th July 2008, 10:02

deanohit

15th July 2008, 10:12

This time it was on 640x480@30fps and exported at 320x240@25fps
I'm trying different codecs for encoding and if you change the embed code for the clip to 320x265 it's much clearer.

Next time it's going to be a test at 320x240@30fps and see the difference.

I don't like only 1 hour of footage available at 640x480.

Cool.
Yea, only one hour means you have to be pretty selective of what you film, to bad if you've just filmed something, turn the corner and WOW! Damn, outta memory. :Oops:

NordieBoy

16th July 2008, 08:27

I like the "loop" feature of some of the recorders.
Always recording and when you press the button it saves the last 3min (customizable) onto the card.
It's much easier to press a button after something cool than before :D

NordieBoy

16th July 2008, 08:36

Cycletreads bunged on an IRC GP110 rear yesterday.
Looking at the tread and thinking about it, I like some of the things they've done with it.

An almost solid centre bead but only about 1cm wide.
Wider spaced knobs as you're just leaned over a bit and then closer spacing when you lean over to the edge.
The knob edge is tapered to a wider base so there should be no tearing.

Impressions...
I havn't fallen off in the 10km so far.

The carcass of the TW42 is much thicker than the E-07.
In the centre of the tread on the 07 you could almost feel your own fingerprints it was so thin and compliant whereas the 42 is much thicker and stiffer.
I think that compliance is one reason the 07 gripped so well even when bald.

NordieBoy

28th July 2008, 17:30

Loop from Nelson over to Mapua and over to Murch, St Arnaud etc via the seal, dirt, gravel and snow :D

I need another little camera. I missed sooo many shots on this ride...

Oh, heated grips too...

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XF650

28th July 2008, 17:46

Fantastic composition there Fran. No dust to contend with either !!
What tyres were on the Beemer?

twotyred

28th July 2008, 17:57

great stuff! really enjoyed that.

NordieBoy

28th July 2008, 18:07

Fantastic composition there Fran. No dust to contend with either !!
What tyres were on the Beemer?

Nope, no dust at all.

E-09's on the GS.
The rear looks quite nice but the front looks to be more off road biased than the rear.
I'd match the rear up with something more like an IRC GP21 or TKC80 to give a bit more confidence in the front on the seal.

Padmei

1st August 2008, 17:48

Looked like a great ride Nordie. I'm still getting over this mother of all flus but will be ready for an adventure soon!!

Who's playing the guitar in that clip?

NordieBoy

1st August 2008, 19:14

James Wilkinson.
Most of his stuff is played on a 12 string fretless bass.

NordieBoy

5th August 2008, 22:13

Hewn out of 10mm steel bar by Tibetin Monks using only a fingernail file...
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Remove the footpegs...
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Bolt the new mount up (and find the bolts are 10mm but a weird thread so you can't use the ones you bought)...
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I think it'll actually work!
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Hopefully tomorrow I'll get a chance to do the other one :D

cooneyr

5th August 2008, 22:23

Dinn ya make some alloy ones? Did they not handle the jandle?

Cheers R

NordieBoy

6th August 2008, 08:25

Alloy? For footpeg mounts? :wacko:

Nah, someone on ADV did but I found a chunk of 10mm scrap at li'll bro's work that I could scive off with.

Got meself a drill press now so wanted to have some fun.

About an hours hacksawing involved in that one though.
Hope the other one dosn't take as long :D

NordieBoy

6th August 2008, 17:43

Hacksaw time...
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Roughed out...
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Polished up and drilling the last hole...
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Just fits. The back slope just misses the front of the stand thingy...
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They hang down a bit but will protect my bashplate from caseing out damage :D
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Lowered the brake pedal and have left the shifter alone for the time being.
Having the peg mount flat against the adapter also means there is no cushioning effect from the rubber dampers anymore and apart from a bit of buzz through the pegs, I like it.

Seated feels fine and standing...

All I can say is...

Why the hell don't they come like this from the factory?

Just the 2.5cm back would make a huge difference to the shorties out there.
The bike feels more planted and with the weight further back, where you would be lightening the front over a rise it now comes up over horizontal which never used to happen with me :2thumbsup

My seat is now slightly the wrong shape and needs to stay a bit skinnier a bit longer but it'll do.

Total cost...
4 10x40 bolts $8
4 10x40 bolts + nuts $3.95 (charged me the wrong price)
8 10mm washers 80c
Steel bar scrap $0
================
Lowered footpegs $12.75

:2thumbsup

Crisis management

6th August 2008, 17:53

deanohit

6th August 2008, 18:07

Looks like a good idea, the only bit I'm a bit unsure of is the fact they hang below the bash plate. Keep clear of big rocks I suppose?

How often does your bashplate actually hit?
I reckon with the angle on the front of the hanger and being made from some sturdy steel like that, they'd be all good.

NordieBoy

6th August 2008, 18:24

I'll have a pair, what's your account number for the $12.75 Nordie?

I need them for saturday, so allowing 2 days for post you better get onto them NOW!

Looks like a good idea, the only bit I'm a bit unsure of is the fact they hang below the bash plate. Keep clear of big rocks I suppose?

I don't case out much but as it's 10mm thick steel...
Rocks should look out for me :D

3-4 hours of work involved though :apint:

JATZ

6th August 2008, 19:22

you should get a grinder with a cutoff disk (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Building-renovation/Tools/Power-tools/Grinders/auction-169605802.htm) then you could start mass production. :dodge:

NordieBoy

6th August 2008, 19:59

you should get a grinder with a cutoff disk (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Building-renovation/Tools/Power-tools/Grinders/auction-169605802.htm) then you could start mass production. :dodge:

Shane said to get down to Pykels and get some cut-off blades to rough out the shape but I already had a hacksaw :D

Crisis management

7th August 2008, 07:50

How often does your bashplate actually hit?

You're right, it certainly is a rare occurence but when it occurs it is memorable! :shit:

Another option is to just move them back (depends on your leg length) which will maintain the clearance but still get your feet more under your body and help get rid of that armchair seating position.

I use the term "armchair" fairly loosely when refering too DR's and seating. :mellow:

NordieBoy

7th August 2008, 08:22

Moving back would be do-able but it would have to also be dropped 1.5cm or so but not the 2.5cm of mine.

Just cranked up qCAD and the current peg bolts are on a 40mm centre so 20mm back and 20mm down would be an absolute minimum and even then you may have to grind a bit out of either the bolt heads or the back of the footpegs.
If you go 25mm back then you have to go 25mm down to clear the bolts.

Crisis management

7th August 2008, 09:32

My thinking was to reuse the existing mounts by relocating the pegs back one hole (front bolt goes into rear frame mount) and fitting a piece of thin angle, with 3 holes in it, between the frame mounts and the footpegs.
Front hole lines up with the front frame mount, second hole aligns with rear frame mount and carries the front peg mount, third hole carries the rear peg mount.
Admitedly, this cunning plan has been developed with a cursory glance at the mounting arrangement and no measurements but I still like it!

NordieBoy

7th August 2008, 10:00

You could probably do it with just the 10mm bar.
The rear peg mount would have to be threaded into the bar but not a biggie.
Only issue is that then the pegs would be 40mm back and unless you've got size 30 boots the levers may be a bit far away.

I would have happily gone with cutting the existing pegs down 25mm or so untill I tried it with them back 25mm as well.
The bike feels more balanced with them back and standing feels much better with them lower.

NordieBoy

8th August 2008, 18:58

A bit more of a play today and I think I'm hooked.
I don't think I could go back to the standard height/placement now.

I think I would have been happy with just shortening the pegs but down and back is even better.

Long term I'm going to have to trim the seat a bit more but I think I'll ride it for a couple of months and see which bits annoy me first just to make sure before I cut up the seat (again).

talbertnz

12th August 2008, 11:15

Shane said to get down to Pykels and get some cut-off blades to rough out the shape but I already had a hacksaw :D

...your poor shoulder.....

NordieBoy

22nd August 2008, 19:51

Bike was fine this morning but now...

:(

JATZ

22nd August 2008, 19:58

:doh: :doh: :doh:

Padmei

22nd August 2008, 20:29

Oh bum.....

warewolf

24th August 2008, 23:41

Don't panic, there's still a few good rides left in it before the oil gets on the brake disc. :doctor:

NordieBoy

25th August 2008, 07:51

I hope so.
The first job this week is in Mot.
It's got to last untill Friday.

fatbarstard

25th August 2008, 08:19

you seem to have stumbled upon what modern trials bike manuacturers have been doing for years. results are better manouvering of the bike throug foot input and the bike commingup under power with less effort and more control!

warewolf

25th August 2008, 09:37

And sportsbike manufacturers are raising the footpegs to create more leverage to lean the bike.

But I guess comfort comes first, and a big strapping lad like Nordie needs the legroom more than he needs assistance tipping the bike, eh?

NordieBoy

26th August 2008, 18:34

No stumbling involved. I knew what would happen just not the extent :D
The bike was easier to flick around when the pegs were higher partly because I was attached to the bike closer to the centre of mass and partly because I had shaped the seat to suit me for that riding style.
Now I find I don't have the room to let the bike move under me as much (I hate gripping with my knees) and need to trim the sides of the seat 2.5cm or so each side for an additional 10cm or so back keeping it narrower for longer.

NordieBoy

26th August 2008, 18:36

Blasted out the crud from the fork seal with brakecleaner and ran a feeler gauge around it and there's no extra leakage yet after a run through Pig Valley/Wairoa Gorge.

NordieBoy

5th September 2008, 10:03

Snow hunting up the Maungatapu...
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NordieBoy

6th September 2008, 18:23

Bled the brakes today (yay for fast bleeder valves) the front was fine but the back (never done) was black.

I'd set the compression damping to max when I put the stronger springs in and had a think about it today and set it to minimum to see what happens.

The front Golden Boy SR244 has done 17200km now and has another couple of thousand in it.

I've got the new fork seals but they're not in yet.

warewolf

10th September 2008, 22:30

Bled the brakes today (yay for fast bleeder valves) the front was fine but the back (never done) was black.That rear calliper will be full of that black shite. Time for a rebuild, otherwise you'll be up for a new piston and seals... or more likely a trip to the wreckers for a good used one. (Bleeding is designed to clear air bubbles at the top, it won't lift the black muck out of the bottom of the piston.)

You could try a couple of partial bleeds (bit more than the piston volume) after getting it hot and bouncing it around to agitate the crap sitting in the piston. With your speed bleeders it won't be a big job to do once or twice to see what comes out.

Bren

10th September 2008, 22:40

Gotta laugh...this has to be the biggest newbie thread ever...good on ya Nordie:headbang:

NordieBoy

11th September 2008, 08:26

That rear calliper will be full of that black shite. Time for a rebuild, otherwise you'll be up for a new piston and seals... or more likely a trip to the wreckers for a good used one. (Bleeding is designed to clear air bubbles at the top, it won't lift the black muck out of the bottom of the piston.)

You could try a couple of partial bleeds (bit more than the piston volume) after getting it hot and bouncing it around to agitate the crap sitting in the piston. With your speed bleeders it won't be a big job to do once or twice to see what comes out.

I bled it until it was clean. Over half a bottle of DOT4 went through.
I'll do another in a couple of days once it's been given a workout and the crud has been diluted a bit.

NordieBoy

11th September 2008, 08:40

Gotta laugh...this has to be the biggest newbie thread ever...good on ya Nordie:headbang:

Yeah it's getting there :D

I'll have to start another one over in the off-road thread for my XR rebuilds.

NordieBoy

20th September 2008, 13:08

Finally got me a "proper" adventure helmet.

It's a Zeus 2100B titanium colour and cost $199.
I like it so far...

For slower stuff and day to day use the Oxford open face will still be my favorite though.

Padmei

20th September 2008, 21:44

thats pretty reasonable -where from?

NordieBoy

20th September 2008, 22:24

Nelson Motorcycle Centre.

Also had another toy arrive today :devil2:

Mountainbike suspension bushes and DR carb spring/needle retainer are the first projects.

Toys are fun :niceone:

PS: Anyone know how to use one of these? I'm just guessing.

JATZ

21st September 2008, 07:38

Now that looks like a handy gadget to have in the work shop

NordieBoy

24th September 2008, 15:58

Got a surprise little courier package from the States today.
A Hindle mid pipe...
<a target=_new href=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/slides/20080924-124414-000002.jpg><img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/thumbs/20080924-124414-000002.jpg></a>

To attach to the $60 GSXR600 can off TradeMe...
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The midpipe is soooo light it isn't funny.
'Specially as it cost $30US postage :rolleyes:

It's quite a bit lighter than the stocker even though it's alloy and not the titanium GSXR1000 pipe.
<a target=_new href=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/slides/20080924-130710-000008.jpg><img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/thumbs/20080924-130710-000008.jpg></a>

The holes in the ends are a bit bigger too :D
<a target=_new href=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/slides/20080924-130722-000009.jpg><img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/thumbs/20080924-130722-000009.jpg></a>

Mount it up...
<a target=_new href=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/slides/20080924-124630-000006.jpg><img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/thumbs/20080924-124630-000006.jpg></a> <a target=_new href=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/slides/20080924-131148-000012.jpg><img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/thumbs/20080924-131148-000012.jpg></a>

<a target=_new href=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/slides/20080924-131928-000019.jpg><img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/thumbs/20080924-131928-000019.jpg></a>

Getting it mounted properly next week.

But...
<a target=_new href="http://photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/dr650/Stock pipe with holes.mp3">BEFORE</a> and <a target=_new href="http://photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/dr650/GSXR600 pipe with hindle midpipe.mp3">AFTER...</a> :devil2:

warewolf

24th September 2008, 16:34

and AFTER... (http://photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/dr650/GSXR600%20pipe%20with%20hindle%20midpipe.mp3) :devil2:Niiiiiiice!

NordieBoy

24th September 2008, 17:23

It's nice and deep. No real "bark" to it like most after market pipes and at speed it's apparantly still quite mellow.
Pushes about 94dB according to mx_rob's meter.

cooneyr

24th September 2008, 17:58

Have you seen the thread about factory exhaust or certification test sticker. Little bit concerned about this but don't have to test the water till Febish (I think).

Cheers R

NordieBoy

24th September 2008, 18:20

It is factory. For a Suzuki mumble mumble.
Well under 100dB and has "Suzuki" on the side of it :D

thommo77

24th September 2008, 19:53

Nice helmet and good price. Might have to invest in one for road/easy riding. Like the colour, but are there any other colours?

pete376403

24th September 2008, 20:58

Got a surprise little courier package from the States today.
A Hindle mid pipe...
Who did you purchase it from? I've got a Micron can just begging to be fitted to the KLR but needs a mid pipe (and a few other things but the pipe is the main one)
Thanks

cooneyr

24th September 2008, 21:34

It is factory. For a Suzuki mumble mumble.
Well under 100dB and has "Suzuki" on the side of it :D

Was waiting for that.

Cheers R

NordieBoy

24th September 2008, 21:46

Nice helmet and good price. Might have to invest in one for road/easy riding. Like the colour, but are there any other colours?

Black......

NordieBoy

24th September 2008, 21:46

Who did you purchase it from? I've got a Micron can just begging to be fitted to the KLR but needs a mid pipe (and a few other things but the pipe is the main one)
Thanks

From someone in the States who has just got a TwoBrothers midpipe (easier to fit than the Hindle).

NordieBoy

24th September 2008, 21:47

Was waiting for that.

I know :done:

warewolf

25th September 2008, 09:57

It's nice and deep. No real "bark" to it like most after market pipes and at speed it's apparantly still quite mellow.
Pushes about 94dB according to mx_rob's meter.It reminds me of the Staintunes on the Triumph. They are actually quieter than stock, according to the tests in NSW, done at 50% of max power rpms. But they are louder/sweeter than stock at idle and high rpm. And 3.5kg lighter each and liberate a few ponies... without being offensively loud.

What did you use to get the sound bites, they sound clearer than most? I would like to get some samples done of the 640A, with the EU/AU standard exhaust, US standard exhaust (supertrapp) and then the modified US exhaust.

NordieBoy

25th September 2008, 10:11

What did you use to get the sound bites, they sound clearer than most? I would like to get some samples done of the 640A, with the EU/AU standard exhaust, US standard exhaust (supertrapp) and then the modified US exhaust.

I used my highly sensitive Treo :D

cobber

25th September 2008, 20:40

It is factory. For a Suzuki mumble mumble.
Well under 100dB and has "Suzuki" on the side of it :D

Ah yous fellas like to make it difficult for us wof issuers, while we are getting squeezed by the authorities, But I suppose you have noticed like us, these noise laws dont seem to apply to hogs .

NordieBoy

25th September 2008, 20:45

Ah yous fellas like to make it difficult for us wof issuers, while we are getting squeezed by the authorities, But I suppose you have noticed like us, these noise laws dont seem to apply to hogs .

You need to put Murray's Termi on your DR :D

NordieBoy

30th September 2008, 07:20

Bar riser (only the little roundy bit at the bottom) :D
<a target=_new href=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080929%20Bar%20risers/slides/20080929-150512-000005.jpg><img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080929%20Bar%20risers/thumbs/20080929-150512-000005.jpg></a>
35mm base, 28mm top, 30mm rise, 12mm hole down the middle.
Takes forever to spin out of 38mm alloy.

Next is one for the other side :pinch:

Next next is a wheel spacer to replace the oem speedo drive.

Next next next is the holder for the carb needle/spring.

cooneyr

30th September 2008, 07:58

.....Next next is a wheel spacer....

Hmmm, I could do with a couple of spacers for the XTZ as the stockers are rather badly worn and trashing the seals. Wanna go into business? :D

Cheers R

NordieBoy

30th September 2008, 08:26

cooneyr

30th September 2008, 09:36

Going to have to do a bit of research into what material to use for the spacers as there's quite a bit of pressure on them and they wear.
The alloy I've got won't be up to the job.
My little lathe can do up to 25mm according to the manual but I can get 38mm in there OK :D

Yep defiantly need some sort of steel - no idea what sorry. 38mm might be a little small for the rear wheel spacer on the XTZ - it is thin but large diameter.

Cheers R

NordieBoy

2nd October 2008, 17:46

Are now done.
Only problem with these is I don't want to drill and tap the top clamps for my GPS as they're a bit thinner than the ones on the bike.
I may make up a mount higher up inside the screen Dakar style.
<a target=_new href=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080929%20Bar%20risers/slides/20081002-141504.jpg><img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080929%20Bar%20risers/thumbs/20081002-141504.jpg></a> <a target=_new href=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080929%20Bar%20risers/slides/20081002-180344.jpg><img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080929%20Bar%20risers/thumbs/20081002-180344.jpg></a>

Spinning and grinding the bolt heads down to the right size/shape was a mission. The little lathe is not good for steel :laugh:

Padmei

2nd October 2008, 19:47

They are really pretty Nordie - the next project could be salt & pepper shakers shaped as pistons:laugh:

NordieBoy

2nd October 2008, 20:12

Nah, too easy.

Anyone want pistons shaped as salt & pepper shakers?

talbertnz

3rd October 2008, 11:12

are they the original bar clamps you are using? :scratch:

NordieBoy

3rd October 2008, 15:13

are they the original bar clamps you are using? :scratch:

Nope.

They're Zeta ones if I recall.
Got them on some fat bars on TradeMe.

Better than my existing risers and adapters etc etc etc...

NordieBoy

3rd October 2008, 17:37

Oh yeah :D

It's http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/thumbs/20080924-130710-000008.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/slides/20080924-130710-000008.jpg) finally http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/thumbs/20081003-132302.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/slides/20081003-132302.jpg) welded http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/thumbs/20081003-134128.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/slides/20081003-134128.jpg) and braced http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/thumbs/20081003-134519.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/slides/20081003-134519.jpg) and on http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/thumbs/20081003-135528.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/slides/20081003-135528.jpg) the bike http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/thumbs/20081003-170236.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20080924%20GSXR%20exhaust/slides/20081003-170236.jpg)...

NordieBoy

4th October 2008, 17:09

160 main, needle 4th from top, 45 pilot, 1.2 pilot air. Big time bogging.
155 main, needle 4th from top, 45 pilot, 1.2 pilot air. Big time bogging.
155 main, needle 4th from top, 42.5 pilot, 1.2 pilot air. Big time bogging.
155 main, needle 2nd from top, 42.5 pilot, 1.2 pilot air. Minimal(ish) bogging - pronounced popping on the overrun.

70-100kph in 4th gear was about 3 secs which is the equal of anything I got out of the dynotuned SuperTrapp setup.

45 pilot going back in when it cools down to check the difference on the overrun...

45 pilot made quite a difference to the popping.
It's still there but not as intrusive.

NordieBoy

5th October 2008, 10:41

Aaaaaannnnnnddddd...

I need to replace a collapsed(ish) brake side rear wheel bearing.

Again...

Tony W

5th October 2008, 15:16

Aaaaaannnnnnddddd...

I need to replace a collapsed(ish) brake side rear wheel bearing.

Again...

Waddayamean AGAIN ???

How many months/ km's ago did you do the last one?:confused:

I have suspicions and possibly answers depending
on your reply.

NordieBoy

5th October 2008, 17:14

Waddayamean AGAIN ???

How many months/ km's ago did you do the last one?:confused:

I have suspicions and possibly answers depending
on your reply.

I replaced all the rear wheel and cush bearings only 20,000km ago.

Tony W

5th October 2008, 18:02

I replaced all the rear wheel and cush bearings only 20,000km ago.

Hmmm...that's a reasonable distance.

The DRZ 400 we had problems with would destroy rear bearings in only
1000 Km. Inspection revealed a munted spacer tube which was replaced
with a new one ordered in from Japan.
The new bearings then only lasted 600 Km ! :shit:
Further inspection showed that the new spacer tube was 3mm
too short, causing undue lateral pressure on the bearings when the axle
nut was tightened.:confused:

I doubt this is your problem, but it's worth a look I suppose.

NordieBoy

5th October 2008, 21:05

Hmmm...that's a reasonable distance.

The originals lasted 30,000.

Will check the spacer length though.

talbertnz

6th October 2008, 08:37

i just stripped my DR down to the frame over the weekend am planning to build it up from scratch. so also got the wheels of.

1. how can one tell the bearings are gone?? i checked mine yesterday. they seem pretty sollid with no movement. so i guess they are good??

2. i've got 2 broken spokes on the rear wheel again.. had this twice before now! is this commen?? dont do any "harsh" off road stuff much at all.
(I do like my wheelies... :eek: )

3. (as i'm typing anyway...) Am planning to paint the frame a different colour prob black. dont really want to powder coat as i like doing stuff myself. was planning on using CRC zink paint stuff and then metal protect clear coat out of spray cans. any idea's on that???

4. My GF was most upset when I told her the purple frame would be gone :laugh:

NordieBoy

6th October 2008, 09:06

1. how can one tell the bearings are gone?? i checked mine yesterday. they seem pretty sollid with no movement. so i guess they are good??
Grab the back of the wheel and move it side-to-side. You'll know if the bearing is going/gone :D

2. i've got 2 broken spokes on the rear wheel again.. had this twice before now! is this commen?? dont do any "harsh" off road stuff much at all.
(I do like my wheelies... :eek: )
Havn't done a spoke yet but I don't hit anything with any "speed" either.

3. (as i'm typing anyway...) Am planning to paint the frame a different colour prob black. dont really want to powder coat as i like doing stuff myself. was planning on using CRC zink paint stuff and then metal protect clear coat out of spray cans. any idea's on that???
As some may have noticed I like doing stuff myself too :innocent: but I'm going to get my XR250 frame powdercoated for robustness.

cooneyr

6th October 2008, 09:36

.....4. My GF was most upset when I told her the purple frame would be gone :laugh:

My wife never gave up hassling me about the purple frame of my one either. I did put a purple sprocket (chain gang) and gold chain (EK) on it to go with the purple and yellow seat. Cant do a half hearted job now :D

Broken spokes may be because they are not all at the correct(ish) tension so are overloading one or two. Check all of the spokes when replacing one or two.

Cheers R

talbertnz

6th October 2008, 10:00

Thank U Nordie and Cooney !

...My wife never gave up hassling me about the purple frame of my one either..

Yeah mine said if i'd change it she wouldn't go for a ride with me anymore.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!! :argue:

talbertnz

6th October 2008, 10:01

Aaaaaannnnnnddddd...

I need to replace a collapsed(ish) brake side rear wheel bearing.

Again...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Other/auction-180948999.htm

something for u??

NordieBoy

6th October 2008, 15:33

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Other/auction-180948999.htm

something for u??

Tempted as they come with dust seals and I've had stuff from him before.

The other bearings are smooth and sweet so I just did the 1 for just $18 and I re-used the seal.

JATZ

6th October 2008, 17:15

Tempted as they come with dust seals and I've had stuff from him before.

The other bearings are smooth and sweet so I just did the 1 for just $18 and I re-used the seal.

1: Rubbish bag for wet weather gear:gob:
2: Warehouse toolbox for a top box:gob:
3: Budget tyres that last for 100,000,000 k's:gob:
4: Replacing one bearing 'cause the others sound sweet and re-using the rubber seal:gob:

I thought I heard you squeeking when you walked past at the 6 hr the other w/end, not Dutch are you ?:yes:

NordieBoy

6th October 2008, 17:22

1: Rubbish bag for wet weather gear:gob:
It works!

2: Warehouse toolbox for a top box:gob:
I got it from the Plastic Box thank you very much!

3: Budget tyres that last for 100,000,000 k's:gob:
$0.0025 per Km :Punk:

4: Replacing one bearing 'cause the others sound sweet and re-using the rubber seal:gob:
I did them all last time and when I went in today the SKF guys said they should last 50-60000km easy.

I thought I heard you squeeking when you walked past at the 6 hr the other w/end, not Dutch are you ?:yes:
Scottish. Why?

:laugh:

NordieBoy

6th October 2008, 17:29

I've always wanted to go through here and finally today got a chance.

No problem, how deep could it be...

Answer...
20-30m of top of wheel type deep with a mud base :D

Damn 4WD's :2guns:

JATZ

6th October 2008, 17:33

.

Scottish. Why?

:laugh:

AAAHHHH, 'nuff said:laugh:

warewolf

6th October 2008, 20:16

when I went in today the SKF guys said they should last 50-60000km easy.Is that the same SKF guy that tells me he replaces all his in road touring bike every second tyre change (around 20,000km) because they should really be done then?!

NordieBoy

6th October 2008, 20:47

Ahhh...
Road Touring is much harder on the bearings.

If I get 2 tyre changes out of my bearings I'd be happy :D

topo

6th October 2008, 21:20

nordie, where did you find that little puddle then?

NordieBoy

7th October 2008, 06:59

nordie, where did you find that little puddle then?

Top turn-off to the main track up the first pylon track.
Looks a lot bigger in person :D

Padmei

7th October 2008, 20:12

I went out the other day on one of the driest days yet & got stuck in the muddy patch by the top:Oops: Was a bit too far left & got complacent.

Took my helmet off ready to drag gonzo out when another rider turned up & gave us a push:woohoo:

NordieBoy

7th October 2008, 20:42

Was that in that good boggy bit on the 1st pylon track?

If so, that's a really good boggy one :D

You've got MT21's on haven't you?

JATZ

10th October 2008, 01:15

Wotcha done with the old muffler of the 650 ?

NordieBoy

10th October 2008, 06:28

Sitting in the shed just in case.

Padmei

10th October 2008, 06:36

Was that in that good boggy bit on the 1st pylon track?

If so, that's a really good boggy one :D

You've got MT21's on haven't you?

No it was on the main track... You know, the bit where all the boring people go right instead of challenging themselves :laugh:

yeah The Mt21s were acting like a paddle steamer.

NordieBoy

16th October 2008, 16:29

Got to my first job this morning and noticed there was no neutral light :shit:

Click - click - click... :no:

So after a careful ride home I laid it over and then picked it up again and laid it over on the proper side :doh:
<a target=_new href=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20081016%20NSU%20problem/slides/20081016-112504-000035.jpg><img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20081016%20NSU%20problem/thumbs/20081016-112504-000035.jpg></a>

The fiddly bit was opening up the split-pins on the brake lever...

Finally got the cover off...
<a target=_new href=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20081016%20NSU%20problem/slides/20081016-115904-000036.jpg><img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20081016%20NSU%20problem/thumbs/20081016-115904-000036.jpg></a>

And what did I see!
<a target=_new href=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20081016%20NSU%20problem/slides/20081016-115918-000037.jpg><img src=http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20081016%20NSU%20problem/thumbs/20081016-115918-000037.jpg></a>
Nothing.
It was fine.
Both screws were tight.
I undid the accessible one and put some studlock on it and did it back up and if I'd had a 29mm? socket I would have had the clutch off and done the other as well.

The bonus is that the light works now <_<

EDIT: Just a thought but I wonder if anyone has used some metal epoxy/JB Weld and put some wire mesh over that hole below the NSU. Should stop anything larger than oil getting into the gearbox?

cooneyr

16th October 2008, 16:51

NordieBoy

16th October 2008, 17:31

4 10mm bolts and one 29mm and the clutch is off.
I was going to go to hex heads but that'll wait untill next time I'm in there.

I was going to make one of those tools but as it was still tight and I needed to get to my next job I just studlocked the one I could get to and bolted the case back up.

They normally start to get loose about 10,000 miles or so and mine has done about 50,000km and they were still tight and now one is tight and loctited as well :)

NordieBoy

16th October 2008, 17:40

Noticed the 14T JT front sprocket is getting past it.
It's basically done 15,000km and is about as worn as the PBR 14T at 6,000km.
22,000km on the 43T rear and it still looks good.

Next time I replace the chain I'll go to a 520 setup.

The first RK 525 XSO chain was dead at 8,500km (after the last ride I did on it I had to adjust it 3 notches) and the current chain has done just over 8,000km and is still sweet even with 2up trips through the Maungatapu, Mt Duppa, etc and lots of river crossings which is what I think killed the last one.
The DID X-Ring that was on the bike when I got it got pulled off at 30,000km and is still in pretty good condition length-wise but had a few tight links.

talbertnz

16th October 2008, 17:53

You need the "tool". I got a 6mm ring spanner and a Phillips head bit (from a multi bit screwdriver set) and hammered it in (was a nice tight fit). By grinding some of the top of the bit there was just enough room to fit it between the screw and the clutch basket. I could bring the tool up at Xmas if you want (you still got it Transalper?).

Alternatively and possibly better would be to remove the Phillips head screws completely and replace them with hex head bolts. Much easier to tighten. Once lock tighted there seems to be no problems from my reading.

Cheers R

I just had my one fall of a couple of months back and ended up pulling the clutch of. the worst part was i could not find the screws andthe other bits....

took me long time to get them out!!!!!!!

I ended up making a magnetic probe. I cut up one of those magnetic screw bit holders (have about 10 of them anyway..) got the tiny magnet out (3x5mm) wich was verry strong for its size! I used a piece of wire and made a tiny little basket for the magnet on the end of it using needle nose pliers. i poked it into the oil drain hole and got all the bits out 2 screws spring and switch pin thing.
Best fishing i've ever done!!!! still have the probe, has proven handy ina few other occasions.

ah... then after i got all my bits out i decided to fish a round a bit more just in case... and uhm.... ended up fishing another small screw out of there..... problem is i realy dont know what that one would be from...... so i asumend it must have been a screw from the neutral light switch that would have fallen out before with the previous owner... and his lazy mechanic did not go looking for it.... I hope...... cant find anything else in the manual that looks like that screw inside the engine

NordieBoy

16th October 2008, 21:05

I also finally did something about the ringing sound the washer under the shock bump-stop was making and dribbled superfix all over the top of the washer and jammed the bumpstop down on it.

Fixt :D

Only problem now is without the noise back there the tingling from something loose around the dash area is grabbing my attention dammit!

talbertnz

17th October 2008, 06:19

I hate rattles!!!! :violin:

Padmei

17th October 2008, 06:36

your exhaust is obviously not loud enough:mellow:

NordieBoy

17th October 2008, 07:14

Actually when idling it is a good mellow thump but as it revs up the pulses blend a bit and it effectively gets quieter.

Having no "edge" to the pulses it gets lost in the wind noise at open road speeds.

It's booked in for a 15T sprocket and oil change today.

NordieBoy

21st October 2008, 20:58

Wow.

Just got an email from bro #1 today.
He's driving around on the owner of the Force India F1 Team's yacht.
95m long with a crew of 30!
It's powered by 3 V20 engines each putting out 10,000Hp.
12L per cylinder and 5 turbos per engine...

talbertnz

21st October 2008, 21:21

Wow.
...It's powered by 3 V20 engines each putting out 10,000Hp.
12L per cylinder and 5 turbos per engine...

...I wish i owned a petrol company...

cooneyr

22nd October 2008, 06:34

....He's driving around on the owner of the of the Force India F1 Team's yacht.....

Hes driving around on the owner - thats kinda sick :bleh:

Or is it that he is driving around on the yacht - that must get boring pretty quick and the car must be small :bleh:

Oh you mean sailing around on the yacht - :blank: Damn who am I to be making comments like this.

10,000 hp each per engine is pretty impressive. Is half the yacht fuel tanks?

Cheers R

NordieBoy

22nd October 2008, 06:47

...I wish i owned a petrol company...

I bet the owner does as well.
Although he is a billionaire and owns Kingfisher beer...

NordieBoy

23rd October 2008, 16:58

New shoes for my baby.

The GoldenBoy SR244 front has been officially retired.
If I didn't want to look at some of the slipperyerer side tracks I'd still get another 1,000km out of it.

cooneyr

23rd October 2008, 17:36

New shoes for my baby.

The GoldenBoy SR244 front has been officially retired.
If I didn't want to look at some of the slipperyerer side tracks I'd still get another 1,000km out of it.

MT21's :niceone: now you'll have no excuse not to go exploring the nasty tracks.

Cheers R

NordieBoy

23rd October 2008, 18:10

MT21's :niceone: now you'll have no excuse not to go exploring the nasty tracks

No excuse if there's no deep water and my new 14t front sprocket arrives :banana:

NordieBoy

28th October 2008, 20:39

Decided to take them for a test drive today.
Up to the first pylon track(ling) on the left that overlooks Rabbit Island up the Maungatapu.

24f/26r psi.

First impression on the seal is a bit more noise and vibration and you can really feel the front knobs under braking but seem nice and stable.

On the gravel up to the caretakers they worked quite nicely. Probably the best gravel combo I've tried so far but with that knob spacing and depth they should be. Smooth and progressive when they do slide and a nice positive front.

Standing up in 2nd gear under power going up the first steep bit after the ford at the start and it's just spinning up. No traction or drive even compared to the GP110.

Along the middle section past the head of the dam and at the speeds I went with the very worn GP110 the rear and to an extent the front was very prone to deflection off all and sundry rocks.

The steep shaley bit up to the first bridge was another exercise in wheelspinning frustration with forward progress being half that of the SR244 or GP110 that seemed to use rocks for traction rather than just shove them out of the way in an attempt to get down to the good stuff below.

Onto the hard clay and they went better and in the wet clay proved to have more grip than the other non-knobblies (duh).

Going back down the loose shale and I liked the rear a lot. Better than the SR244.

If you're a wheelspinner or don't do much steep loose stuff then they'd be sweet but I found myself wishing I'd had a rear E-07 or even a $70 SR244 on there.

Next outing will be at 18f/20r to see how they go at those pressures.

Padmei

29th October 2008, 18:34

Have you taken them along maunga rd? If not let me know if it is really sippery or just me having a few moments:msn-wink:

NordieBoy

29th October 2008, 18:53

What pressures were you running?

nerdneh

29th October 2008, 20:13

Hi Fran , Be interested to hear your comments after running tyres at lower pressures, have got mt 21 front for drz but not sure what to fit on rear e07, 606, e09 ,mt21 ?.

NordieBoy

29th October 2008, 20:21

I've got a 150x17 TKC80 if you want to give it a try?
Should match your rim width nicely.

Padmei

29th October 2008, 20:49

What pressures were you running?

About 21 - 22 as per bike specs. Does the pressurs make any difference to wear as if it will save them for a bit I'd put them at higher pressures for road then drop them for gravel.

Did you like the TKCs as I've been eyeing them or 606s for my next tyre trial

warewolf

30th October 2008, 07:21

Does the pressurs make any difference to wear as if it will save them for a bit I'd put them at higher pressures for road then drop them for gravel.Yep, very much so. Less pressure means more carcass flex means more heat means faster wear. .

Unfortunately, off-road you want carcass flex to aid traction through conforming to the surface, increasing the contact area, and flexing to clear the tread.

So it's a bit of a juggling act. Changing tyre pressures from road to off-road is common. Also, increase the pressure to suit the load.

Crisis management

30th October 2008, 07:29

You trying MT21's Fran? I found them not as good as TKC's on the road, slid a bit earlier and similar off road but they have a stiffer sidewall which makes them less adjustable with pressure. The TKC's are very sensitve to pressure and, as Colin says, will wear very quickly if underinflated on the seal. I ran 25 front & 30 rear on the DR650 on the seal, 20 & 24 off road without rim locks.

NordieBoy

30th October 2008, 09:04

Next Maungatapu ride I'll be trying 18f/20r psi on the MT21's.
My next rear will I think be a Mitas E-09 and then back to ones I've tried before (E-07/SR244) to see if they still ride like I remembered.

I'm using 28f/30r on the road at the moment and with the Shinko SR244's and E-07's I was using 34f/36r on road and 18f/20r off.

I don't ride hard enough on the road to get any sliding...

NordieBoy

31st October 2008, 22:28

Well 18f/20r is much better mannered. Far less deflection off rocks but still breaks loose quite easily going up or down (or flat for that matter).

It's the first rear tyre I've run that has broken loose engine braking into a downhill corner.

It'll take some getting used to but I think it'll stay on 'till it's dead and then a couple of thousand more as per usual.

Should have about 1/3 tread left for the Dusty so should be sweet.

NordieBoy

1st November 2008, 11:17

Well as it's raining I'm not going over to the drags so I'll get a chance to pull the shock and re-do it with 10W...
Should be fun :D

NordieBoy

1st November 2008, 17:04

Right...

Let's get started...
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Out with the airbox and carb boot...
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Make sure the shock has enough dust on it...
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Check the current nitrogen psi - 60 - Hmmmmm...
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Annoying little punch marks...
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Slowly fill it up working the shock to get the air out and then into the vice and top it up...
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Slowly do up the compression valve...
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Pressurised the bladder to 140psi and next week will get it gassed up with nitrogen.

And put the shock back in after cleaning/greasing the lower linkages...
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Carb boot and airbox back on...
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3 1/2 hours later it's all finished. Looks much better...
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Wonder how it'll go though?

NordieBoy

1st November 2008, 20:10

Well it seems to track nicely and goes well over the bumps seated and standing.
I need to find some washboards to really test it out though.

Did a bit of foggy poseing...
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Seems like there's a lot of bikes up the Maitai with black clad riders.

talbertnz

1st November 2008, 20:11

Nice one Nordie!
I did mine as well a few weeks ago, my bike is still apart so havent tested it yet.

was your shock still full of oil?
My 96er only had about quater of a cup of verry dirty grey drainwater looking stuff left in it. how was yours??

NordieBoy

1st November 2008, 20:49

Fairly similar.
I flushed it out with some 10W first and then filled it up.

NordieBoy

2nd November 2008, 22:49

Well now the shock is done(ish) I can say that with 22f/24r and 10W oil it rides the bumps better than 18f/20r and 5W oil. Bearing in mind I'm using a 7.6kg/mm rear spring.

18f/20r should be very nice in the gravel/hills now :D

You don't get bumped around as much in seated washboard sections but you can hear/feel the engine revs playing up/dropping but what I liked was that if you were leaned over a bit and gassing through the washboards it tracked nice and smoothly with little variance in revs.

Next suspension mod (eventually) is emulators in the front.

NordieBoy

4th November 2008, 16:39

MT21's front and rear.
28f/30r psi and it rides over rocks like a rubber ball, bouncing everywhere...
Up Ben Nevis yesterday and the back was jumping around on anything larger than gravel (which it went fine on at those pressures). Down to 18f/20r and it is soooo much better it isn't funny.

Got the shock gased up with 150psi of nitrogen today for $28. Would have been cheaper but it's a bugger to do on the DR with the shock in-situ and the valve sooo close to the mid-pipe clamp.

I'm also going to get another emulsion tube for the carb and see how much wear is on the original. I'm consistantly running leaner settings than expected and it's still feeling a bit rich.

warewolf

5th November 2008, 09:05

I'm also going to get another emulsion tube for the carb and see how much wear is on the original. I'm consistantly running leaner settings than expected and it's still feeling a bit rich.I'd be interested in that. I've got 9 of them in the shed, from the Triumph's BST36 carbs. Reckon I'm (over)due to replace the one in the 640A's BST40, because the exhaust has a hint of smoke. The Triumph went from blowing black smoke, to utterly clear, just from replacing the emulsion tubes.

While it is apart, check the piston guide for wear. If worn, it will wear the new needle jet in short order.

talbertnz

5th November 2008, 09:51

....emulsion tube..... ????????

warewolf

5th November 2008, 12:24

....emulsion tube..... ????????As in the tube that has the needle jet at the top, and the main jet screwed into the bottom. Holes in the sides to help atomise the fuel, creating an emulsion of fuel & air.

NordieBoy

5th November 2008, 14:30

....piston guide..... ????????

warewolf

5th November 2008, 15:56

....piston guide..... ????????aka "Throttle Valve Guide", the plastic bit that holds the piston (aka Throttle Valve) in place against the carb body.

Pressure pulses shake the piston back and forth in the carb throat. Since the Jet Needle is held in the piston, and the Needle Jet is fixed in the carb body, eventually the needle ovalises the jet orifice, causing a hopelessly rich mixture that can't be tuned out by faffing with the other jets.

In the case of my Triumph, at 155,000km there was 1.5mm of wear in the piston guides, which meant it took <5,000km to destroy a new $140 set of emulsion tubes and send the fuel consumption skyrocketing by 50%. :weep:

Another problem is that the needle can wear at the (nearly-closed) contact point with the jet, and in a worst-case scenario can break off and be ingested by the cylinder.

NordieBoy

5th November 2008, 18:26

Ahhh.....

sed s/Throttle Valve/carb slide

Makes sense though.

aka "Throttle Valve Guide", the plastic bit that holds the piston (aka Throttle Valve) in place against the carb body.

Pressure pulses shake the piston back and forth in the carb throat. Since the Jet Needle is held in the piston, and the Needle Jet is fixed in the carb body, eventually the needle ovalises the jet orifice, causing a hopelessly rich mixture that can't be tuned out by faffing with the other jets.

Def. sounds like what's happening.

marks

6th November 2008, 07:38

are you still running the footpeg lowering brackets?

Any negatives?

cheers

Mark

NordieBoy

6th November 2008, 09:15

are you still running the footpeg lowering brackets?

Any negatives?

I've had some rocks hit them but I had rocks hit the originals.

The only reason to pull them off would be if I made some new ones that did the same but didn't drop below the frame rails.

NordieBoy

8th November 2008, 16:50

Finally got around to removing the side stand kill switch this morning.
The bike feels much lighter now.

To celebrate I went out and got my first flat tyre since 2004...

NordieBoy

10th November 2008, 21:35

Up town on the mtb and buy a couple of tyre levers...

And we're off!
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9 mins later...
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20 min later it's all back together...
With 3 big pinch holes :stupid:

1:25 hr later...
After a cycle to CycleTreads and back with the wheel under my arm...
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Checking the rear and...
How the hell did this happen?
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