Tales from the Emporium [Archive] - Page 7

NordieBoy

20th September 2009, 19:23

Before today the Works Performance rear shocks were much nicer than the front stock forks.

Today the stock front forks with YSS PD Valves (emulators) are improved so much the rear now feels crap compared :D

The front brakes are total crap and have a new cable and shoes but the cable has no teflon liner...

Played around with rear shock air pressure from 90psi to 200psi and settled on 180psi which was plush(ish) over the stones but still resisted bottoming over the whoops.
The springs are far too heavy though and kick the back up in the whoops.

Still is a lot better than before :love:

dino3310

20th September 2009, 21:58

Hello, my name is NordieBoy and I've just bought a DR650.

Be gentle with me.

:scooter:

shit Fran 2006 you started this thread 1500 posts later and still going strong:Punk:,

bart

20th September 2009, 22:05

shit Fran 2006 you started this thread 1500 posts later and still going strong:Punk:,

Yeah, I started reading through from the start. Got to about page 25 (short attention span). I see it's up to page 101 now. Good effort.

NordieBoy

20th September 2009, 22:23

It's easier to post here and it keeps me out of the other threads...

Padmei

21st September 2009, 07:44

We like having you contained

NordieBoy

21st September 2009, 16:33

I checked the DR's rev tell-tale and with with Shane riding it yesterday it hit 7,500rpm...

Redline is about 7,500rpm...

Padmei

21st September 2009, 17:26

Did you expect any different. What about the front wheel airtime log?

Speaking of which can DRs be held in long wheelies? - standard ones that is...

NordieBoy

21st September 2009, 18:01

Did you expect any different. What about the front wheel airtime log?

Too many whoops on the track for long wheelies.

Speaking of which can DRs be held in long wheelies? - standard ones that is...

They can be but not sure how good it is oil-wise...

The Intiminators really worked well out there. The rear needs a gold valve as it's got good low speed damping but too much high speed damping. Or something.

It was fun to do a few laps on the DR after the XR :D

NordieBoy

21st September 2009, 18:02

Warewolf on the XR for the first time...
Finally a dirt bike he can flatfoot :D
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topo

21st September 2009, 18:15

Whats the story with the mx track, can anyone use it?

NordieBoy

21st September 2009, 18:23

Shane dealing to the DR...

I like this track.
No big jumps that could be attempted on inappropriate bikes...

It's a hell of a workout armpump wise though...
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NordieBoy

21st September 2009, 20:19

Whats the story with the mx track, can anyone use it?

Pretty much.

It's more of a testing/practice track.

I should have got some side-on footage of the XR through the whoops at different speeds to see how the suspension was going :D

NordieBoy

21st September 2009, 20:22

Looking at the XR footage the back hasn't got enough sag (rear can't drop into holes) and the spring rate is to high (kicking up).
The damping is pretty good though.

Problem is I have no idea what the current spring rate is.
Anyone got a spring dyno in Nelson?

NordieBoy

23rd September 2009, 18:31

Oh dear.
There's enough room on the dash for one of these... :(

http://www.super-visor.com/tiresupervisor.htm

Monstaman

23rd September 2009, 19:25

Your suspension looks very fluid Nordie, great track to play on too by the looks of that, we need something like that here.

warewolf

23rd September 2009, 20:25

spring rate is to high (kicking up).
The damping is pretty good though.KTM PDS often has the same problem, described as insufficient high-speed rebound damping.

If you think the damping is okay, you're probably observing the low-speed damping... maybe?

tate35

23rd September 2009, 20:31

Congratulations Nordieboy, on your new bike. :niceone:

Was going to welcome you to KB but I see you have been around for a while with a zillion posts :Punk:

NordieBoy

23rd September 2009, 21:34

KTM PDS often has the same problem, described as insufficient high-speed rebound damping.

If you think the damping is okay, you're probably observing the low-speed damping... maybe?

The springs are overpowering the damping so lighter springs/same damping would be closer to good.

Maybe...

NordieBoy

23rd September 2009, 21:36

Your suspension looks very fluid Nordie, great track to play on too by the looks of that, we need something like that here.

Both ends have been worked on and they still work.

NordieBoy

23rd September 2009, 21:38

Congratulations Nordieboy, on your new bike. :niceone:

Was going to welcome you to KB but I see you have been around for a while with a zillion posts :Punk:

Well it was new(ish) when I got it in 2006 :D

cooneyr

24th September 2009, 08:10

Well it was new(ish) when I got it in 2006 :D

Bit like grandads axe now aye. New headlight, seat, motor, wheel bearings, chain, sprocket, mod suspension, mod carbie, new exhaust, mod foot pegs, mod handle bars . Maybe frame and wheels are all that you haven't played with yet. Better shut up I might be giving you ideas! :laugh:

NordieBoy

24th September 2009, 08:42

Plastics, tank, frame are original(ish)...

NordieBoy

24th September 2009, 20:15

Well the battery was only $80 which is good 'cause it looks like the other batteries are fine :(

Just finished replacing the starter motor with my old '01 one that I overhauled when the brushes stuck after 1 month of ownership and the bike started right up no problems at all :woohoo:

Looks like it was the brushes in the '97 starter motor.

NordieBoy

24th September 2009, 22:28

Right. Let's get this bugger apart...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/thumbs/20090924-170636-000001.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/slides/20090924-170636-000001.jpg)

Clutch off...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/thumbs/20090924-171547-000002.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/slides/20090924-171547-000002.jpg)

Oil line off...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/thumbs/20090924-172400-000003.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/slides/20090924-172400-000003.jpg)

Camchain tensioner and starter motor out...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/thumbs/20090924-173731-000004.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/slides/20090924-173731-000004.jpg)

Starter motor and tensioner from the '01 engine installed...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/thumbs/20090924-174910-000005.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/slides/20090924-174910-000005.jpg)

Oil line back on...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/thumbs/20090924-180148-000007.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/slides/20090924-180148-000007.jpg)

Clutch and exhaust back on...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/thumbs/20090924-184337-000008.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20090924%20Starter%20motor%20replacement/slides/20090924-184337-000008.jpg)

Hit the button and it starts :woohoo:

To quote George Peppard - "I love it when a plan comes together".

Ally67

25th September 2009, 14:49

CrazyFrog

25th September 2009, 15:56

oh wise one I have a question
Does a DR 250 have an 18 inch rim?
I have spotted whats left of a DR in a shed and both rims look good,the forks are there to,but the frame looks like theres only enough room in it for a small motor so I'm thinking it may be a 250.
If the rims are the same as jatz 750 then I will grab them if I can.

Yes, the DR250's have a 18" rear wheel. Well, since 1987 anyway. Still 18" rim on the new DR-Z's too.
Check the width though, the 750 has most likely got a wider rim.
Mrs Jatz, it's called Google. :bleh:
But just don't believe everything you see on the intraweb thingy.

Ally67

25th September 2009, 16:08

Mrs Jatz, it's called Google. :bleh:

Thanks for that will check it out

If I googled it I wouldn't have an excuse to be on here now would I :laugh:

dino3310

25th September 2009, 22:03

Ally67

26th September 2009, 08:18

the BIGs a 17", although i've been looking to convert it to an 18"

That what jatz tells me too.
Could always whack it on the CT if need be :laugh:
Will see if I can get all the bits that are there if we can't use them someone else may be able to.

warewolf

26th September 2009, 10:43

Does a DR 250 have an 18 inch rim?
I have spotted whats left of a DR in a shed and both rims look good

Yes, the DR250's have a 18" rear wheel. Well, since 1987 anyway. Still 18" rim on the new DR-Z's too.The bush pig in my shed is a mid-eighties DR250 with 17" rear. My 2001 DR-Z250 had a proper dirt-size 18" and that bike was unchanged (except for badges) back to 1995 maybe earlier.

The second set of wheels came from a 1991 DR350 - they were virtually identical.

Willdat?

26th September 2009, 13:19

Yes, the DR250's have a 18" rear wheel. Well, since 1987 anyway. Still 18" rim on the new DR-Z's too.

My 1988 DR250 has a 17" rear, but I think it was more likely just registered in 88....

proper dirt-size 18"

The DR250's are sensitive y'know :bleh:

Maybe that's why my one still isn't home...

NordieBoy

9th October 2009, 10:13

My baby bucket seat is here!

Monstaman

9th October 2009, 11:46

My baby bucket seat is here!

Noice .. stepped up in the world what a treat!!!

NordieBoy

9th October 2009, 13:24

Monstaman

9th October 2009, 14:45

Edit: I love that smiley :D

He is a dude, never seen that one before.

He must have a new bashplate as well :headbang:

gpcustom

9th October 2009, 15:07

:niceone: is it on yet................................what about now.....................................:Pokey:wha t about now........:sweatdrop come on come on :drool:...........

JATZ

9th October 2009, 17:05

I've just gone out to the shed and pretended to put it on and made vroom vroom noises and pretended to case the bike out over some rocks and a small log and it came through with flying colours.

http://www.mobilecomputing.co.nz/images/smiley/vroom.gif

Edit: I love that smiley :D

O.M.G. your not retiring the 50k sign :gob:

let us know when you've prtended to case it on a big
log, be interested to see how it handles it

http://www.mobilecomputing.co.nz/images/smiley/vroom.gif http://www.mobilecomputing.co.nz/images/smiley/vroom.gif
that is a cool smiley

NordieBoy

9th October 2009, 20:20

These are my bashplate generations from the mighty 50K sign to the Suzi one to the GP Custom...

The GP Custom needed a little... customizing to fit with the centre stand :D

Things to tweak now are...
File a bit off as it's a leeetle close to the oil filter.
Strip of HD tube between the front mount and the plate.
Shorten the front c/s bolts as they just touch the engine case.
Strips of foam rubber between the plate and the frame rails.

Got some other ideas too...

Be interesting to see if there's any audible difference. I'm expecting a bit of resonance before I get some foam strips in there.

Got some sealsavers today too.
Tomorrow I'll pull the forks and see how they look...

:cool:

NordieBoy

10th October 2009, 10:28

Right...
Shorten the front screws - Check.

Loctite on all screws - Check.

Foam rubber under rails - Check.
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20091009%20Bash%20Plating%20again%20again/thumbs/20091010-104249-000007.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20091009%20Bash%20Plating%20again%20again/slides/20091010-104249-000007.jpg)

HD tube under front mount - Check.
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20091009%20Bash%20Plating%20again%20again/thumbs/20091010-104318-000009.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20091009%20Bash%20Plating%20again%20again/slides/20091010-104318-000009.jpg)

Better clearance from oil filter - Check.
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20091009%20Bash%20Plating%20again%20again/thumbs/20091010-104118-000003.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20091009%20Bash%20Plating%20again%20again/slides/20091010-104118-000003.jpg)

Looking good - Check :D
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20091009%20Bash%20Plating%20again%20again/thumbs/20091010-104147-000006.jpg (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20091009%20Bash%20Plating%20again%20again/slides/20091010-104147-000006.jpg)

Woodman

10th October 2009, 10:30

NordieBoy

10th October 2009, 10:33

I've just pretended to go over a big log and although it got hung up on the footpeg mounts and ripped quite a bit of bark off it went well with no undue noise.

Shit. I could work for MCN with these reviews.
Who needs to go out and actually ride it. Saves on insurance and reg too.

gpcustom

11th October 2009, 18:10

just woundering why you thought it would make noise??
Would have been interesting to see if it did or not.

On the drz400 the whole plate touchs on the frame. I use to make my self a new plate every now and then and there was only one time that it was a little noise there but i just tightend the bolts a little more and it went away.

:spanking:Anyway i will trim the right hand wing a little for more clearance for the filter and shorten the bolts :headbang:

oh yea befor i forget i better add this :ride:

gpcustom

11th October 2009, 18:17

:slap: where did you get that smilie from

Transalper

11th October 2009, 18:27

He's http://www.mobilecomputing.co.nz/images/smiley/vroom.gif an off site smiley.
Certainly is a dude, me like, me like.

Some people reckon the engine noise gets reflected back off bashplates up at the rider making them sound noisier.
Can't say I ever noticed a difference myself although I have been known to stick a bit of rubber in between plate and frame to kind of protect the frame a bit from scratches or gouges from the plate. Probably kidding myself but seemed like a good idea at the time.

Squiggles

11th October 2009, 18:41

Probably kidding myself but seemed like a good idea at the time.

Man, i did it coz the rest of you were... :p

gpcustom

11th October 2009, 19:48

:doh:....its good to get feed back then i can make the changes

NordieBoy

11th October 2009, 20:51

Some bashplates reflect the noise/resonate something chronic.

CooneyR had a Suzi one on and it sounded like the gearbox was filled with 3in1 oil. You could hear everything.

My Suzi one was fine but it did have some rubber strips along the frame rails.

I like to isolate any metal on metal contact.

My 50K plate was silent until I bolted it up to the rear bolt holes you used and then it was loud...

I'd be tempted to use some 2-3mm tube on the rear mounts as well but it's working fine as it is :woohoo:

Cased on a couple of logs/rocks/dirt humps today and the bashplate sailed through no issues at all.
My footpeg mounts are 25mm lower than the bashplate however and gouged out quite a bit of terrain :D

I did however hear several good sized rocks ping off the plate so it's doing the job too.

Woodman

11th October 2009, 21:08

I couldn,t believe the resonance when i fitted mine, seriously thought something was coming adrift.

might try some insulation of some sort noe.

snodpete

11th October 2009, 21:17

I was interested in your observations about bash plates and noise, I've noticed some weird resonances from the Strom since fitting my beefy B & B plate and wondered if it was just new (to me...) bike paranoia. Stroms DO have a rep for a vibe around 6K revs which is 'amplified' by Givi crash bars (I think mine are Givis - can't find any ID on them, but they look like the pics). Adding the 'plate just enhances the whole mechanical symphony... as they say - if you use protection the sensation will be different :rolleyes:

Have done a few kms over the school hols - to Nelson and back via backroads (in the rain!) and a joyful blast down the coast to Greymouth and back today. It's a comfort having wise thoughtful riders like Nordie to explain some of the 'symphony' is probably not sign of imminent metallic death! Cheers for the ideas, keep 'em coming.

NordieBoy

12th October 2009, 17:32

Looks like I got 11 months out of the brake side rear wheel bearing.

Cost $42 last time and $22.32 today for a pair (20x47x14 SKF).

warewolf

12th October 2009, 18:07

The OEM bashplate on the 640A is aluminium, bolted solidly to the front frame down tube and to mounts under the engine. There are 4 rubber 'bumpers' between the plate and the frame rails.

I haven't noticed the plate itself vibrating or resonating, but it definitely reflects engine noise. And is sand-blasted from detritus thrown by the front wheel.

Box'a'bits

12th October 2009, 20:15

NordieBoy

2nd November 2009, 07:30

I was all ready to try a set of Shinko 705's and my damn brother says "I've got an almost new 130x80x17 Avon Gripster you can have".

The E-07 rear is almost flush with the centre strip at 11,000km so still has a couple of thou left in it.

Been sitting in the shed for a few years and it's a tubeless carcass but mounted up well and when I finally got the bead seated it looked OK.

Quick ride up Sharlands last night and it seems to go fine on the gravel if a bit more slippery leaned over than the E-07.

Fine in the hills and rough stuff except for wet rock climbs where it didn't have much traction at all but it hadn't got any real temperature into it yet.

It gets worse.

He's got a matching front hidden away somewhere too :(
Once it's had a few heat cycles through it it may soften up a bit.

CrazyFrog

2nd November 2009, 10:53

Ahhhhh, summer is coming, it'll heat up just fine. Either that or start to ride motard syle, spinning it up hanging the back out:woohoo:
What's the manufacture date on it?

NordieBoy

2nd November 2009, 17:00

Ahhhhh, summer is coming, it'll heat up just fine. Either that or start to ride motard syle, spinning it up hanging the back out:woohoo:
What's the manufacture date on it?

J416

41st week of 1996?

CrazyFrog

2nd November 2009, 18:50

J416

41st week of 1996?

Lets hope it's 41st week 2006 rather than 1996. Otherwise I'd be riding reaaal careful until they really scrub up. Good thing the road temps are creeping up now winter is behind us.
You could always put on a show for the boys and use it as a burnout tyre:headbang:

warewolf

2nd November 2009, 22:39

You could always put on a show for the boys and use it as a burnout tyre:headbang:Be sure to use 4th... not 3rd :Oops:

NordieBoy

3rd November 2009, 08:06

Lets hope it's 41st week 2006 rather than 1996. Otherwise I'd be riding reaaal careful until they really scrub up. Good thing the road temps are creeping up now winter is behind us.
You could always put on a show for the boys and use it as a burnout tyre:headbang:

He hasn't had a road bike for over 10 years...

In 2000 they changed to a 4 digit number for the date code.

warewolf

3rd November 2009, 10:02

I would expect they are hard all the way through, ie not just the top layer that could be 'burned' off or warmed up. I've got an IRC TR8 front that is a similar age, it's quite tough. The TR8 was unused when I got my grubby mitts on it. A tyre that's been used will likely be worse due to the vagaries of heat cycling the rubber.

CrazyFrog

3rd November 2009, 13:04

He hasn't had a road bike for over 10 years...

In 2000 they changed to a 4 digit number for the date code.

Ooooooh, goody, burnouts then:yes:
Do ya want me to get it warm for ya, c'mon, just a bit of smoke. Demonstrations given free of charge.

NordieBoy

3rd November 2009, 15:17

Looks like it wasn't originally his tyre.
Was on a bike he fixed up for someone and he put a knobblie on and pulled this one off.

Seems to grip OK.
Impressed with the sidewall. Nice and soft. Over some tarseal judders that would normally see the rear skip slightly at 28psi the Avon rolled through them.

Wouldn't buy one new though... >$200 :gob:

NordieBoy

8th November 2009, 18:12

Unofficially that is... :innocent:

Was on a Suzi 50 chasing my little nephew on his 80cc quad around the kids track and was getting both knees down in the corners :D

Then I went out on the DR for a lap or 2 and passed the fast little shit down the straight and was going to brake slide into the corner...

Avon Gripsters slide really well on green grass...
When you're sideways they don't slow down at all...

Nice little lowside. Some people saw it and laughed but as there were no cameras around (apart from the ones I was carrying) it's only an unofficial off...

Picked the grass out of the shifter and footpeg and was off again.

warewolf

8th November 2009, 18:39

Nice one! :woohoo:

They're not called Avon Slipsters for nothing :Oops:

NordieBoy

8th November 2009, 20:57

Nice one! :woohoo:

They're not called Avon Slipsters for nothing :Oops:

I don't think any other 70/30 tyre would do any different on green grass :D

I love the softness of the sidewall. 25psi and it handles the bumps better than MT21's at 18.

Grip on the seal is fine. A little slipping accelerating leaned over on painted lines as per normal and fine on gravel.

Not bad for a 13 year old tyre.

I think it'll stay on 'till shot but I won't get another...

NordieBoy

8th November 2009, 21:03

Also noticed an oil leak at the head today.
The DR was parked at the EnduroCrossslightly nose down and there were a couple of drips from the left side of the head dowm onto the bashplate.

Head-bolts/gasket is the primary suspect.
It's always been dirty up there but not fresh oil type dirty...

Woodman

8th November 2009, 21:05

Soooo you fell off aye?

NordieBoy

9th November 2009, 06:51

Soooo you fell off aye?

Maybe. ...

Willdat?

9th November 2009, 08:40

Was on a Suzi 50 chasing my little nephew on his 80cc quad around the kids track and was getting both knees down in the corners :D

Sounds like a good place for a 50, I'm not sure if my Motard tyres would be up to it on grass either!

Went exploring yesterday, Maungatapu still closed, then headed up to some of the pylons up to the side, awesome fun!

Went to a small way into Sharlands too, but it's a real bugger not knowing where I can and can't go...Anyone want to play guide? Not so quick on the gravel (due to rider skill rather than bike ability) but the clay is great!

Ally67

9th November 2009, 17:23

Went exploring yesterday, Maungatapu still closed

Jatz came over there Saturday evening on his way home with the boys new bike,tapes still up but does'nt appear to be anything going on,you might have to do a sneak mission.:eek5:

JATZ

9th November 2009, 19:21

Jatz came over there Saturday evening on his way home with the boys new bike,tapes still up but does'nt appear to be anything going on,you might have to do a sneak mission.:eek5:

What she said.....If it's good enough for pig hunters to be going through then it's good enough for bikes. Besides I wasn't gunna turn around and go back

Padmei

9th November 2009, 20:15

I went for a trundle along the new motorway yesterday. cruised past the roller thingies still working on a Sunday evening & gave them a wave. They waved back with a "WTF" look on their dials.

Woodman

9th November 2009, 20:21

I went for a trundle along the new motorway yesterday. cruised past the roller thingies still working on a Sunday evening & gave them a wave. They waved back with a "WTF" look on their dials.

Were they doing that specialwave with 2 fingers.??

NordieBoy

11th November 2009, 11:29

I decided to open up the airflow through the peak a bit.
Red line is original.

No extra noise and noticeably less lift.

XF650

11th November 2009, 11:38

How did you cut the plastic?

NordieBoy

11th November 2009, 15:21

Dremel with a sanding drum.

NordieBoy

10th January 2010, 21:54

Looks like for the same speed 1 rear tooth is about 100rpm difference...

eg.
14/41 @ 100kph = 4500rpm
14/43 @ 100kph = 4700rpm
14/44 @ 100kph = 4800rpm

NordieBoy

10th January 2010, 22:08

They're installed now but I'm going to have to cut open my bars if I ever want to remove them.

They've definitely changed the vibes but I have a suspicion they're touching the bars inside somewhere and defeating the purpose.

Stuck a pair in the XR as well but havn't had a chance to ride it yet.

NordieBoy

15th January 2010, 20:42

It's finally started playing up and dropping satellites.
Overseas it can happen after as little as a month and it's been sweet on the DR since March 2008.
It's had a shitload of vibration in that time.
I may pull it apart and solder an external aerial in on a 50cm lead and see how it goes.

dino3310

15th January 2010, 22:26

what about an aerial wire hooking up to the bars useing the bike as the antenna...

that sounds really dumb when i read it back.

NordieBoy

16th January 2010, 07:00

that sounds really dumb when i read it back.[/SIZE]

:D

I've already got an external aerial but just clipping it in broke the connector dammit :(

NordieBoy

19th January 2010, 08:15

DR650 3rd gear blowups.

NordieBoy (NZ) 2001 60,000km
Transalper (NZ) 2001 55,000km
Rosscoact (AU) 2004 13,000km
Mardy (US) 1997 53,000km
Haddon (NZ) 1999 40,000km
RubberCow80 (AU) 2001 25,000km
Philth (AU) 3 bikes <20,000km
BikeRooter (AU) 2006 10,200km
Madsdad (US) 2005 16,000km
briangv99 (AU) 2006 21,000km
bluebye (US) 2004 37,000km
Coyote X (US) 2007 33,800km
DRjoe (AU) 1997 100,000km
DRJens (SE) 2001 23,000km
DRjoe (AU) 2003 15,000km
Helicopter (NZ) 2002 ???km
Klay (US) 2001 29,000km

Thought I had a separate thread here with this info but can't find it...

Woodman

19th January 2010, 10:26

Stopped and said gidday to helicopter as he was waiting for the AA to arrive. He didn't know that drs had this issue, but said that someone else stopped before me and told him as well. he seemed happy enough.

NordieBoy

24th January 2010, 14:57

Got an FCR39 on the way :D

It's taken a few years but finally one came up at an appropriate price.

NordieBoy

27th January 2010, 10:43

My old Keihin FCR38 is off to a new home and it's place on the gargre wall will soon be taken up by it's bigger brother the '39.

Eddieb

27th January 2010, 11:35

What difference does the 1mm make besides being able to say mines bigger than yours?

buggsubique

27th January 2010, 11:46

cooneyr

27th January 2010, 12:38

My old Keihin FCR38 is off to a new home and it's place on the gargre wall will soon be taken up by it's bigger brother the '39.

Surely you can do better than a space on the garrage wall ;-) Zerax is showing you up!!!

dino3310

27th January 2010, 13:21

shite Fran you got the 13th highest post count, when do you get time to ride.

NordieBoy

27th January 2010, 17:10

What difference does the 1mm make besides being able to say mines bigger than yours?

Stock is 40mm but a huge butterfly+shaft in the way.

All the instructions for setting up pumpers on the DR are for either the Mikuni TM40 or Keihin FCR39.

The 38mm I would have had to work out all the jetting myself and the pilot and pilot air were fixed which didn't help.

Perfect carb for a DRZ400/XR400/DR350 though.

NordieBoy

27th January 2010, 17:12

shite Fran you got the 13th highest post count, when do you get time to ride.

Every day.
Had time to ride and loose a hook, soft plastic bait, sinker and 20m of line between jobs today.

Eddieb

27th January 2010, 19:29

Every day.
Had time to ride and loose a hook, soft plastic bait, sinker and 20m of line between jobs today.

Gizajobmista

dino3310

27th January 2010, 20:41

Gizajobmista

yeah Gizajobmista, and can i stay in your shed.

NordieBoy

12th February 2010, 19:18

OK you can stay but you've got to clean the shed first...

Got a new numberplate and decided to mount it somewhere less ...gorseable...

I seem to damage them most by turning around in thick gorse.

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100212%20New%20number%20plate%20and%20mount/slides/20100212-194634.jpg

NordieBoy

12th February 2010, 19:21

Also got one of these to go on sometime...

196040

Eddieb

12th February 2010, 19:37

Well pull finger. You can't leave this one hanging on the wall for 2 years.

NordieBoy

12th February 2010, 19:47

Ah but this is almost the right one :D

Waiting on a TT member to send be an adjustable leak jet for 1/3 retail...

Eddieb

12th February 2010, 19:54

Are you related to Arkwright or Dell Boy?

NordieBoy

12th February 2010, 20:18

Are you related to Arkwright or Dell Boy?

Steptoe .

NordieBoy

24th February 2010, 18:44

Just been building a seat extension for Jenni to use next weekend after the Clarence ride.
She intends going through from Hanmer to Nelson via the Molesworth on the back of the DR...

Got 2 different densities of foam, a sheepskin covering and built-in bungy straps for mounting...

Only going to be "after" pics as once I'd decided to build it it was done.

20min..

It's going to take longer to get the ADOS spray off my fingers.

Padmei

24th February 2010, 19:00

NordieBoy

24th February 2010, 19:55

Does she know what she's getting herself in for?

No :D

Furthest she has been is Dove Hill, Sunday Creek, Panic Mac, Spooners and back to Nelson.

I'm going to gear the DR down and cruise...

We're intending to head out to Hori Bay Friday evening to test it out.

NordieBoy

25th February 2010, 06:57

Got 2 different densities of foam, a sheepskin covering and built-in bungy straps for mounting...

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100224%20Pillion%20Seat/slides/20100224-203243.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100224%20Pillion%20Seat/slides/20100224-203259.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100224%20Pillion%20Seat/slides/20100224-203310.jpg

Padmei

25th February 2010, 19:23

Looks like a sheep's sat on a possum.

If she rides on that you will know she is the one...

NordieBoy

25th February 2010, 19:40

:D

It's a lot better than the old offcut of foam that we've been using for the last few years...

I'll post up a pic of it on the bike soon...

Just worked it out...
24,000km in the last year on the '97 motor.
52,000km total on it.

The '01 motor let go at 56,000km.

Padmei

25th February 2010, 20:45

Well at least Jenni will have something comfy to sit on while a KLR goes for help.

NordieBoy

25th February 2010, 21:24

Very comfy...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100224%20Pillion%20Seat/slides/20100225-193105-0001.jpg

warewolf

25th February 2010, 22:00

So there's gonna be three of you on that bike then? Yourself, Jenny and Baa-aaa-bara! :D

NordieBoy

26th February 2010, 06:59

So there's gonna be three of you on that bike then? Yourself, Jenny and Baa-aaa-bara! :D

Baa-aaa-bara has already done the 2009 DB1K so she is an old hand at this sort of thing.

NordieBoy

26th February 2010, 21:02

Looks like Jenni won't be going through the Molesworth on the back :(

Went out to Hori Bay this evening and whenever I throttled off for a corner she was getting a real lungfull of exhaust.

May need to look at a turndown tip on the pipe...

Oscar

26th February 2010, 21:04

I see there's one of those Gilera Nordwest thingies on Tardme.

Padmei

26th February 2010, 21:07

Why is it everytime I turn on the computorer it changes colour?
You're a comp geek Nordie get it sorted!!

Oscar

26th February 2010, 21:11

Why is it everytime I turn on the computorer it changes colour?
You're a comp geek Nordie get it sorted!!

Try to remember to take your sunnies off when you come inside...

warewolf

26th February 2010, 21:22

Why is it everytime I turn on the computorer it changes colour?You're supposed to READ the coloured bits. If it stayed black, it wouldn't be very useful, would it?

warewolf

26th February 2010, 21:24

whenever I throttled off for a corner she was getting a real lungfull of exhaust.Lay off the beans and ride at a less puckering pace.

JATZ

26th February 2010, 21:36

She could always sit on the front:whistle:

NordieBoy

26th February 2010, 22:01

I see there's one of those Gilera Nordwest thingies on Tardme.

Looks like he's modded the exhaust a bit.
I'd be very tempted if I was still into motards...

It's worth $4500-5000.

There's no way I'd be allowed to buy it though :(

Padmei

27th February 2010, 06:33

Then get rid of yours so you can buy more farkles:yes:

NordieBoy

27th February 2010, 08:19

I wouldn't be allowed to buy it 'cause I'm the one who sold it to him :D

Lester is holding out 'till I ask a "more reasonable" amount for mine.
Unfortunately we all know what bike shop owners are like when they buy bikes...

And he knows I'll crack before he does :D

Padmei

27th February 2010, 16:04

Checked the paper last nite?

NordieBoy

27th February 2010, 16:10

Nope ?

Don't get the paper.

JATZ

27th February 2010, 20:26

Checked the paper last nite?

Ohhhhhh come on Paders........ the suspense is killing me

Padmei

27th February 2010, 21:50

its up for sale.

JATZ

27th February 2010, 22:05

its up for sale.

what's up for sale ? and stop being so coy about it ya smart bugga :D

NordieBoy

28th February 2010, 08:08

Ahhhaaaa...

That may be a slow process.
Who'd want to buy it in this economic climate.

Woodman

28th February 2010, 08:15

Wtf is up for sale??????????????

NordieBoy

28th February 2010, 09:18

I'm guessing a bike shop...

Padmei

28th February 2010, 11:31

Yeah I haven't talked to them about i. Mrs Padmei said I'm not allowed to buy it. Would be cool tho. Got heaps of ambience in there.

warewolf

28th February 2010, 17:43

C'mon... details. I've read the papers and haven't spotted anything interesting? :scratch:

Padmei

28th February 2010, 19:07

Macleans was listed under businesses for sale.

Woodman

28th February 2010, 19:52

been up for sale for a long time. have you seen the new bike rego figures lately? Scary if you rely on sales.

Box'a'bits

28th February 2010, 21:23

Actually its been a lumpy ride over the past few years. New bike regos soared (particularly scooters) when fuel increased. But the uncertainty generated by changes to ACC have made this summer one to forget for most dealers.

NordieBoy

2nd March 2010, 15:42

Finally got it sort of sorted...
Hopefully this will stop the "water in the face" problems associated with speedier water crossings.

I can see how I can get it a bit wider too but am waiting on a black donor mudguard.

Front of spare mudguard...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100227%20Front%20guard%20extension/slides/20100227-125932-0001.jpg

And installed...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100227%20Front%20guard%20extension/slides/20100227-133735-0005.jpg

TangoCharlie

2nd March 2010, 16:48

Nice mod mate, where did you get your bigger tank?

NordieBoy

2nd March 2010, 17:13

The IMS tank came with the bike but the best place is www.justgastanks.com

Eddieb

2nd March 2010, 17:46

You installed that FCR carb yet?

Eddieb

2nd March 2010, 17:47

NordieBoy

2nd March 2010, 18:49

Pulled the aerial out, cleaned and lubed up the connector and it's been sweet since.
It's been on the DR for 2 years now.

The 2 screws beside the antenna come out and the small bit of case comes off then you can pull the whole antenna away from the internal hinge which is actually an MCX connector.

NordieBoy

2nd March 2010, 18:53

You installed that FCR carb yet?

No need yet :D

Still got to get the adjustable leak jet, stronger pumper spring, main jet, needle, intake adapter and mod the cable bits for the DR's throttle cables.

Eddieb

13th March 2010, 08:04

Hey Nordie

Who did you send those magnets to up here and are there any left?

I lost the one on the PD front rim for my speedo sensor and was wondering if they would do the job.

NordieBoy

13th March 2010, 08:12

Hey Nordie

Who did you send those magnets to up here and are there any left?

I lost the one on the PD front rim for my speedo sensor and was wondering if they would do the job.

Aslan.

Been wondering that myself.
My speedo magnets are pushie ones and are hot-glued to the disc.

NordieBoy

13th March 2010, 11:19

Padmei

13th March 2010, 12:47

I've just drilled my front disc with a 5mm hole and the almost drilled through with a 6.5mm one.
The magnet sits in there nicely and if there are any issues I may JB weld/epoxy it in but I think it'll stay there OK.

Thats what you were doing bent over your bike. I went past & tooted. Hey can I have one of those maggy things too please?

NordieBoy

13th March 2010, 13:58

I dunno. I'm down to my last 14...

200273

NordieBoy

13th March 2010, 15:40

Got the wheels swapped over, 14/44 gearing, the magnet works, the "enduro" seat and side covers are on, the GSXR can is back on and performing much better than the stocker.

Apart from the side covers being white and the seat yellow and purple, it's ready to rumble tomorrow.

Woodman

13th March 2010, 16:03

Got the wheels swapped over, the magnet works, the "enduro" seat and side covers are on, the GSXR can is back on and performing much better than the stocker.

Apart from the side covers being white and the seat yellow and purple, it's ready to rumble tomorrow.

Spotted you in town with the purple seat. Did any one shoot at you? Not for having a purple seat, but for thinking you were a hells Angel

NordieBoy

13th March 2010, 16:33

A hells angle on a jappa with a purple and yellow seat and wearing a purple enduro top :Punk:

200272

Hell, even I'd shoot at me.

thepom

13th March 2010, 16:43

Sweet looking bike......

Padmei

13th March 2010, 17:05

I actually like the seat. Weird aye.
Shit you got me worried about the Hells Angels now. You reckon we'll be safe?

warewolf

13th March 2010, 17:23

You reckon they'll be adventurererererering up the wairoa on their hardley-rollingsons???

NordieBoy

13th March 2010, 17:45

And on the way back we can drop by Pig Valley where they're Classic MX'ing tomorrow.

kiwifruit

13th March 2010, 18:13

Welcome to the site

Eddieb

13th March 2010, 18:26

Welcome to the site

:) Nordie, I think someone else didn't look closely at the thread's first post date or your post count.

Woodman

13th March 2010, 18:50

A hells angle on a jappa with a purple and yellow seat and wearing a purple enduro top :Punk:

200272

Hell, even I'd shoot at me.

No shit, but I saw the Angels outside smugglers tonight and no shit one of them was on a DR 650 and no shit again, it was the purple seat model.

Padmei

13th March 2010, 18:58

No shit, but I saw the Angels outside smugglers tonight and no shit one of them was on a DR 650 and no shit again, it was the purple seat model.

No shit really? Was he wearing a purple jacket taking lots of photos?

Woodman

13th March 2010, 19:05

No shit really? Was he wearing a purple jacket taking lots of photos?

Na none of them looked like they were about to fall off.
I thought the HA had a harley only rule. Mind you I have a book at home about the life of Sonny Barga who started the HA and he states that he didn't actually like harleys and thought they woulda been betterer off and faster on Hondas.

cooneyr

13th March 2010, 19:07

A hells angle on a jappa with a purple and yellow seat and wearing a purple enduro top :Punk:

200272

Hell, even I'd shoot at me.

Hey that's a bit rought. Put a white front guard on it and paint the frame a similar purple and you've got my old DR. Purple, yellow and white DR's are the best ones. :yes: I even got a gold chain and purple chain gang sprocket for it. :sick:

NordieBoy

13th March 2010, 19:45

Hey that's a bit rought. Put a white front guard on it and paint the frame a similar purple and you've got my old DR. Purple, yellow and white DR's are the best ones. :yes: I even got a gold chain and purple chain gang sprocket for it. :sick:

I've got a chunk of '97 white front guard on the bottom of my front guard :D

The purple frame with white rear guard and half a front guard is sitting in the shed minding it's own business.
Patiently waiting for a GSX400 donk to arrive from santa :D

NordieBoy

13th March 2010, 19:46

Welcome to the site

Thanks.

I think I'll like it here.

NordieBoy

26th March 2010, 19:54

Just got a set of front and rear GoldFren brakepads installed.
The old ones (rear from the '97 bike and front from Warewolf) were getting a bit thin.
The fronts lasted about 45,000km.

I'll find out tomorrow how the new ones feel :D

NordieBoy

26th March 2010, 20:31

Edbear

26th March 2010, 20:40

Had a scary moment today.

Was heading to Cycletreads and passed a cop at the roundabout who followed me...
I'm thinking he's seen my number plate mounted directly to the rear guard...

Pulls up beside me around the back of Cycletreads for a chat...

About my aftermarket seat. He can't stand his stock one :D

Sometimes we forget, Cops are human too, though some have their doubts about Scummy... He has an unusual rep...

bart

26th March 2010, 20:44

Had a scary moment today.

Was heading to Cycletreads and passed a cop at the roundabout who followed me...
I'm thinking he's seen my number plate mounted directly to the rear guard...

Pulls up beside me around the back of Cycletreads for a chat...

About my aftermarket seat. He can't stand his stock one :D

Haha...I've had my not quite stock number plate mounting thing going on for a while now, and no problems. Kind of coincides with the 'not quite regestered' bit nicely.

Woodman

27th March 2010, 07:39

warewolf

28th March 2010, 21:50

yeah mine (OEM) look like they'll get to that. Dunno what you use in your beastie Woodman but you seem to go through them pretty fast.

Woodman

29th March 2010, 17:36

yeah mine (OEM) look like they'll get to that. Dunno what you use in your beastie Woodman but you seem to go through them pretty fast.

So far i have put in 2 sets of rears and one front and they both need replacing soonish. They are Vesrah pads . Had the bike for 18000kms. is this excessive or do others go through them too.

Padmei

29th March 2010, 17:44

Nah
We're just hardcore
FTW

dino3310

29th March 2010, 19:48

or nanas who use them too much

Padmei

29th March 2010, 19:56

or nanas who use them too much

Nah just hardcore
FTdinos

dino3310

29th March 2010, 20:07

Nah just hardcore
FTdinos

ok .

Padmei

29th March 2010, 20:14

ok .

Is that it? You just gonna roll over like that? FFS Not even a "my dad can bet up your dad?"

dino3310

29th March 2010, 20:26

is that it? You just gonna roll over like that? Ffs not even a "my dad can bet up your dad?"

" beat" .

pete376403

29th March 2010, 20:33

Had a scary moment today.

Was heading to Cycletreads and passed a cop at the roundabout who followed me...
I'm thinking he's seen my number plate mounted directly to the rear guard...
:D
So when did that become illegal? I've got the plate mounted on the rear guard, a white led strip mounted untder the rack illuminates the plate, the standard stop/tail light is in the orginal position and the reflector is below the plate. Plate is perfectly visible from the rear night and day.

dino3310

29th March 2010, 20:38

all my dual sport bikes have had the plates direct mounted to the plastics

NordieBoy

29th March 2010, 20:52

So when did that become illegal? I've got the plate mounted on the rear guard, a white led strip mounted untder the rack illuminates the plate, the standard stop/tail light is in the orginal position and the reflector is below the plate. Plate is perfectly visible from the rear night and day.

Meant to be as close to vertical as possible and white light illuminated.

Mine is visible from the rear day and night as long as they don't turn their lights off.

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100212%20New%20number%20plate%20and%20mount/slides/20100212-194634.jpg

dino3310

29th March 2010, 21:00

how you get around not having the white light for wofs

Squiggles

29th March 2010, 21:01

So far i have put in 2 sets of rears and one front and they both need replacing soonish. They are Vesrah pads . Had the bike for 18000kms. is this excessive or do others go through them too.

Nah i go through them at about the same rate, not quite as tough on the rears though

Woodman

29th March 2010, 21:08

Nah i go through them at about the same rate, not quite as tough on the rears though

probly cos your front brake actually works. Klr is chronically under braked and I am no lightweight either.

NordieBoy

29th March 2010, 21:22

how you get around not having the white light for wofs

Carefully .

Padmei

31st March 2010, 18:37

Ah I see now where you got your front guard extender.
Midnight shopping was it? (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-280318807.htm)

NordieBoy

31st March 2010, 19:55

Ah I see now where you got your front guard extender.
Midnight shopping was it? (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-280318807.htm)
You've gotta be in to win :D

Paging Willdat?
Willdat? to the white courtesy phone!

Suzuki DR 1982
Asking price: $500

Willdat?

1st April 2010, 09:19

I paid $800 for my running reg and wof 'project' and look where I am now :oops:

I'm only buying previouslyrestoredbysomeonewithdeeppockets now...plus the GB should be here over the weekend (otherwise I'm going to get it next week!)

dino3310

1st April 2010, 20:10

NordieBoy

1st April 2010, 20:20

sooo how much have you thrown at the old girl since the original 800

You never want to do that...

My $800 bike has had $600 shocks stuck on the back end.

NordieBoy

2nd April 2010, 17:23

Had some fun today :D

The throttle is very heavy on the mighty DR and has a several second return time :blink:
When road riding I have to use the throttle rocker as otherwise I have to hold on so tightly it hurts.
Off road you don't notice it so much as you're not at constant throttle as long.

Took the throttle cables off the spare DR and cleaned them up.
Removed the sucky ones and both were sticky but the return cable was very bound up with gunk.

Put the new(ish) ones on and it wasn't much better :angry:
Until I fine tuned the adjuster up by the master cylinder :Punk:

Also put on the blinkers from the spare bike...

They're a little smaller...
202572

Normal...
202573

Betterer...
202571

dino3310

2nd April 2010, 17:33

i got a set of those tiny LED's on the back, there great, brighter than the originals too. was looking at a set for the front but they around $60 retail

cooneyr

4th April 2010, 10:03

No wonder you were worried about the copper the other day. You don't have a white light illuminating the number plate let along the angle of the number plate.

NordieBoy

4th April 2010, 17:38

No wonder you were worried about the copper the other day. You don't have a white light illuminating the number plate let along the angle of the number plate.

Yep. That was the worry :D

pete376403

6th April 2010, 00:06

I made a number plate light for the KLR after relocating the plate - white LEDs from Dick Smith Electronics, they have an integral current limiting resistor so connect directly to 12v, a few dollars for a pack of 6. Mounted in holes drilled in a strip cut from a plastic chopping board.
This is mounted under the luggage rack. Nice and bright, no WOF problems so far. Would weigh all of 2 ounces, if that.

NordieBoy

6th April 2010, 07:38

Used those led's for my dash lights. The high beam and aux light ones kept stuffing up my night vision. I've had to cover half the led up they're so bright.

NordieBoy

6th April 2010, 19:52

Shinko E705 time.

90/90/21 (TL) front ($104).
120/90/17 (TT) rear ($114).

I didn't read the fine print as I would have rather gone for a 130 rear but guess I can't compare unless I've tried the 120 first :D

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100406%20Shinko%20705/slides/20100406-134348.jpg
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100406%20Shinko%20705/slides/20100406-152729.jpg

I put 28 psi in the front and 30 in the rear and headed up the Maitai.
Initial impression on the seal is of a fairly neutral ride.
Initial impression on hardpack gravel is of a fairly neutral ride.
Initial impression on loose grit/gravel is of a fairly neutral ride.

The front inspires confidence even in the loose corner grit.
The rear seems to have more traction leaned over than the SR244.

Next test is to take them back up there with 20f/22r psi and see the difference over the corrugations and in the corners.

snodpete

6th April 2010, 22:51

Just watch out for the 'hidden feature' -

203144203145

Pix of 'Stroms rear tyre after 4000km 2-up to Cape Reinga and back and a bit more... Keep an eye on those treads, Nordie!

(Replaced free of charge by supplier mind you)

Howie

6th April 2010, 23:27

I've used the Shinko E700 17x5.10 203149 on the rear of the KLR and found it reasonably good, got about 6000km out of it

NordieBoy

7th April 2010, 07:03

The good thing about the 705's is the sidewall pressure is actually more than I'd normally run.
The 120 should be a little more sensitive to pressure than the 130 or 150 as well.
I'd hope to get 10-12,000 out of them.

I've also got to get some more wd-40. I used crc on the bead of these and didn't have the same "drying to stickyness" you get with wd-40.

I'll do an oil and filter change this weekend and may pop the cam cover off and re-seal.

umopom

7th April 2010, 10:35

Hi Nordie
Just discovered that the Dunlop D908RR is going to be available in NZ in May. Looks the part and reviews seem to be good.
Cheers
JC

203167

NordieBoy

7th April 2010, 10:47

What sort of price though?

umopom

7th April 2010, 10:51

Will try and find out - but in the $200-$250 range I guess. Will get Clive to investigate unless you have a better idea?
Cheers
JC

cooneyr

7th April 2010, 13:32

Will try and find out - but in the $200-$250 range I guess. Will get Clive to investigate unless you have a better idea?
Cheers
JC

I've heard $300+ but will wait and see. I'm keen as to try one of these as they are apparently the only semi agressive knoblie that lasts more than a little bit under a 950.

NordieBoy

7th April 2010, 17:12

Wow that's pricey. Almost as much as a TKC80 in 150 section.

I tried the 705's at 20f/20r and they went well. Next test is 18 in the rear...

I'm definitely going for a 130 next time. Normal use for a day with the 120 and no chicken strip at all.

dino3310

7th April 2010, 20:47

i see Dunlops brought out a D605, less aggressive than the 606 but looks like a goodie... anyone seen or heard about them

dino3310

7th April 2010, 21:06

had a looksey out of interest, not a bad looking rubber http://shinkotire.co.kr/english/02product/sub01_detail.asp?pcode=AA00050047

cooneyr

7th April 2010, 21:50

i see Dunlops brought out a D605, less aggressive than the 606 but looks like a goodie... anyone seen or heard about them

Been round for ages. The D603 looks like a more interesting one. Basically a more open D605 but not quite as open as a D606. Dont think they are brought into NZ though.

Best pic but too big for this site - wet bus ticket territory!!! :shit: http://takaj.blogdns.com/share/images/2005/050925_TTR_TIRE_CHANGE/DSC20050925_002.jpg

http://www.bike.ne.jp/shopping/img/dp-d603.jpg

dino3310

8th April 2010, 09:27

they lookin hot

NordieBoy

8th April 2010, 18:39

Valve clearances checked, spark plugs cleaned, air filter done...

1 tight inlet and 1 tight exhaust but still within spec.
Replaced valve inspection caps with spares and good o-rings as the old o-rings were very old and not so good at the "stop the oil from going past" bit...

Cleaned up the spark plugs with the wire wheel and put them back in (3 years old now).

The leak on the head is from the cam cover just above the spark plugs. I've smeared a bit of gasket maker along the join to see if that helps in the meantime.

Amz

10th April 2010, 12:03

A little help guys! I can't get a new air filter for my XL250 in NZ (it's an L shape as the battery sits over the top of the air box) so have had to buy some No-Toil foam filter material. Going to cut out the paper from the plastic frame and fit it but not to sure what glue to use. Ive got a glue gun and hot glue, some silicon sealant or some black silastic gasket silicon. What would you guys recommend? Also how do you go about oiling it? I don't know how it's going to affect the performance as someone has already put a homemade exhaust can on it as well. How can you tell if it's too lean or rich? spark plug? I am venturing into new territory here.

Amber

NordieBoy

10th April 2010, 17:04

Rubber cement (tixotrope) should be the stuff but No-Toil should have a recommended glue.

It'll be difficult to oil/clean it if you can't remove it from the frame.

NordieBoy

10th April 2010, 17:06

Put the knobblies on for tomorrow and the front wheel has a bearing on the way out :(

So I pulled the new E705 off the road rim and put the MT21 on that.

Clean oil filter, oil change, dirt seat, dirt panels, dirt tyres...

:Punk:

dino3310

10th April 2010, 18:31

sounds dirty

NordieBoy

10th April 2010, 19:36

sounds dirty

Hopefully :D

"So I pulled the new E705 off the road rim and put the MT21 on that."
Doesn't really indicate how long it actually took either :lol:

Padmei

10th April 2010, 19:50

Hopefully :D

"So I pulled the new E705 off the road rim and put the MT21 on that."
Doesn't really indicate how long it actually took either :lol:

It's amazing how fast that clock moves when you want to see how long it takes yo to change a tyre.
Changing my rear I thought I had done it in about 10mins - the clock showed 25mins - I got rid of it -dang thing must be busted.

NordieBoy

23rd April 2010, 22:30

I've used some gasket sealer on the head/cam cover interface above the spark plugs and it stopped all the oil from making a bid for freedom.
I also did the outside of the stator cover bung but found it was leaking from inside the hex hole for the allen key!
As it's so rounded off it's useless, I filled the hole with goop too.

NordieBoy

23rd April 2010, 22:41

Installed a new GPS and mount today.
It's a Garmin Nuvi 500 and RAM mount.

My little Quest has stopped transferring tracks back to the computer and it was easier to buy a new GPS than just delete the tracks on it :D

Bigger screen, better geocache support and I can position it a little higher/further forward and easily change the angle/position compared to my bodged Quest mount.
I've set it so I can still see the speedo/tacho.

Buuuut the Quest has far more features and is more customisable as you can't even do the normal editing of fields that are displayed on the Nuvi :(

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100423%20GPSing/slides/20100423-135724-0007.jpghttp://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100423%20GPSing/slides/20100423-142833-0011.jpg

NordieBoy

28th April 2010, 19:02

Anyone thinking the valves on the DR650 are just the right size and that Suzuki engineers can do no wrong...

The DR650 valves are the same part number as DR200 valves...

A 1985 TT600 has 36mm in and 32mm ex valves.
A 1996 DR650 has 33mm in and 28mm ex.

This has been a pubic service announcement.

cooneyr

28th April 2010, 19:05

Yer but there is an extra two DR200 valves i.e. four in total on the DR650 isn't there?

NordieBoy

28th April 2010, 20:20

Yer but there is an extra two DR200 valves i.e. four in total on the DR650 isn't there?

Sooo.... It'd be good sizes for a 400cc then :D

NordieBoy

6th May 2010, 19:39

I've had some bits arrive...

1 GSX400F chassis.
1 GSX400F engine.
1 GSX400F rear wheel.
1 GSX400F 4 into 2 exhaust headers.
1 GSX400F tank.
and several small boxes of stuff that probably has nothing to do with this bike...

Pics to follow...

Padmei

6th May 2010, 19:42

Don't forget the shiny blue thing with suzuki written on it. Gonna put the kx125 forks on the front?

NordieBoy

6th May 2010, 20:50

Yeah, the blue Suzuki scooter bit. But he's never had a Suzuki scooter :D

Nope, going to put the "spare" DR650 front end on. The forks are beefier than the KX125 USD's and the brakes are much bigger. The finished article is going to weigh around 180kg or more and will take some stopping.

Now I need to find a crashed/trashed 81/82 GSX400F to raid for parts...

Eddieb

6th May 2010, 20:59

NordieBoy

6th May 2010, 21:44

You had a spare front end lying around and you didn't tell me? you bastard.

"Spare" in the sense of that they're my dirt wheels.
The forks are "spare" as they're on the spare DR650 chassis.
Everyone should have a spare rolling chassis to nick parts from.

Now if you want some USD's for the R100 we can talk :D

warewolf

7th May 2010, 21:08

Now I need to find a crashed/trashed 81/82 GSX400F to raid for parts...Buy Jen's, crash it yourself. Sorted.

Padmei

7th May 2010, 21:49

Borrow Jen's, crash it yourself. Sorted.

Fixed :shifty:

NordieBoy

8th May 2010, 13:32

Oh dear...
I may have to use the USD front end after all...

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100508%20Fork-tank-seat-swingarm%20mockup/slides/20100508-090727.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100508%20Fork-tank-seat-swingarm%20mockup/slides/20100508-090818.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100508%20Fork-tank-seat-swingarm%20mockup/slides/20100508-090914.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100508%20Fork-tank-seat-swingarm%20mockup/slides/20100508-101647.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100508%20Fork-tank-seat-swingarm%20mockup/slides/20100508-102907.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100508%20Engine/slides/20100508-111355.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100508%20Engine/slides/20100508-111426.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100508%20Engine/slides/20100508-111435.jpg

cooneyr

8th May 2010, 16:57

Woohoo :woohoo: Love this sort of thing. Keep it comming!

Cheers R

Woodman

8th May 2010, 17:03

Um.... What are you trying to build?

Padmei

8th May 2010, 17:36

Um.... What are you trying to build?

a new coffee machine?
That Pezzz has got a lot to answer for.

Umm Nordie it's getting into winter & it'll be cold & dark...is there a reason you aren't building it in the garage?

NordieBoy

8th May 2010, 17:49

Um.... What are you trying to build?

A smaller capacity, heavier, more inappropriate adventure bike.

NordieBoy

8th May 2010, 17:49

Umm Nordie it's getting into winter & it'll be cold & dark...is there a reason you aren't building it in the garage?

Not enough....

Ummm...

Light...

That's it! Not enough light.

dino3310

8th May 2010, 19:09

A smaller capacity, heavier, more inappropriate adventure bike.

what like a KLR :lol:

NordieBoy

8th May 2010, 19:36

what like a KLR :lol:

More KLE'ish...

Woodman

8th May 2010, 19:51

what like a KLR :lol:

I was waiting for that...

bart

8th May 2010, 20:43

Nice. Will rev like hell. I likey.

cooneyr

9th May 2010, 08:00

...That Pezzz has got a lot to answer for....

Pezzz is a legend :Punk:

I reckon this sort of thing will make a great gravel road sweeper.

NordieBoy

9th May 2010, 08:09

Nice. Will rev like hell. I likey.

The manual says keep below 4,000rpm for the first 800km, 6,000rpm until 1,500km and 10,000rpm from then after.

It's only done 800km since 1981.

Possibly a bit of dirt and some burnouts when it was stolen though.

NordieBoy

21st May 2010, 21:40

I may have to use the DR front end after all.
Just measured up and the DR swingarm is 5mm wider and 100mm longer than the GSX one.

Mmmmmmm....
DR brakes instead of twin single pot fronts and drum rear....

NordieBoy

22nd May 2010, 18:26

OMG!!!

The bugger fits (sorta).

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100508%20Fork-tank-seat-swingarm%20mockup/slides/20100508-102145.jpg http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100522%20DR%20swingarm%20test/slides/20100522-131235-0002.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100522%20DR%20swingarm%20test/slides/20100522-131254-0004.jpg
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100522%20DR%20swingarm%20test/slides/20100522-131218-0001.jpg

Oh dear, looks like I'm going to have to use the DR front end and a high guard...

NordieBoy

27th May 2010, 16:18

JATZ

27th May 2010, 20:58

Mounted up the 650 front end to the 400 today.

It works better brakes and height wise but the steering stem will need replacing with something that suits the bearings for the 400.
Also makes it look more old school and the skinnier uppers mean more turning before hitting the tank..

Photos to come.

Just a thought.......... but could you not swap the stem over ?
I know a couple of guys on the BIG forum have put new/machined up 750/800 stems into ktm/wr or wp front forks

NordieBoy

27th May 2010, 21:23

Just a thought.......... but could you not swap the stem over ?
I know a couple of guys on the BIG forum have put new/machined up 750/800 stems into ktm/wr or wp front forks

Was thinking of that but will ask Shane which route would be easier.

If I actually had a GSX stem to play with it'd be easier.

The DR stem could possibly be made to fit with a bit of work too but it may be easier to make up a new stem to suit the ID and length of the GSX bearings.

Woodman

27th May 2010, 21:35

Was thinking of that but will ask Shane which route would be easier.

If I actually had a GSX stem to play with it'd be easier.

The DR stem could possibly be made to fit with a bit of work too but it may be easier to make up a new stem to suit the ID and length of the GSX bearings.

Googl KLR fork swap for some ideas on which way to go. For some reason its a popular thing to do. Can't think why.

NordieBoy

27th May 2010, 22:25

Googl KLR fork swap for some ideas on which way to go. For some reason its a popular thing to do. Can't think why.

Looks like the favoured way is to use the original stem and mod the triples to fit it.
I don't have an original stem :(

topo

28th May 2010, 07:28

Just go into into the bearring and acc centre in either richmond or the port with both sizes that you need, it's amazing the different sizes they can get/have.

Beats the hell out of swapping stems/trees/forks.

cooneyr

28th May 2010, 07:36

New bearings may work if sizes available but if the length is an issue machining is required anyway so why not start from scratch.

I'm curious how your going to put mounts for the twin shocks onto the DR swing arm. Is the alloy really going to handle the loadings or does it need beefing up?

NordieBoy

28th May 2010, 11:37

I'm curious how your going to put mounts for the twin shocks onto the DR swing arm. Is the alloy really going to handle the loadings or does it need beefing up?

The shocks will mount as far back as possible along the swingarm.
The alloy can handle the loads from landing a jump with the shock mounted right up the front.
With the shocks mounting very close to the line of the axle there's almost no stress on the swingarm at all.

I'm also thinking that with the exhaust I can use the original layout of the headers (4-into-2) under the engine and have the collector (2-into-1) coming up through the gap in the front of the swingarm where the shock was to the SuperTrapp or similar exhaust.

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100528%20DR650%20front%20end/slides/20100528-104952-0003.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100528%20DR650%20front%20end/slides/20100528-105021-0005.jpg

Padmei

28th May 2010, 14:56

You rent a new shed?

NordieBoy

28th May 2010, 16:03

:D

No XR, XL or XR.

Frees up a bit of space.

Monstaman

28th May 2010, 16:11

Saweet, messy man space ... glad mine is not the only one :Punk:

...... but I do know where everything is!

NordieBoy

28th May 2010, 17:10

Saweet, messy man space ... glad mine is not the only one :Punk:

...... but I do know where everything is!

"On the floor!"

Monstaman

28th May 2010, 17:15

"On the floor!"

I upgraded to a bench as well WOH HOH, free timber of course.

I gotta clean some crap off that for my bench grinder now. .. n e e d more space, got 110 m2 of garaging ... and its full!

NordieBoy

29th May 2010, 16:52

Test fitted the rear brakes and found I'll have to mount the shocks to the outside of the swingarm to clear the caliper...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100529%20Engine%20test%20fit/slides/20100529-144001-0006.jpg

Also bunged the engine in there to have a look...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100529%20Engine%20test%20fit/slides/20100529-153757-0009.jpg
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100529%20Engine%20test%20fit/slides/20100529-153817-0011.jpg
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100529%20Engine%20test%20fit/slides/20100529-153829-0012.jpg

I wanna go riding!
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/smiley/revit.gif