The DR650 thread

[NordieBoy]

So pulled stock carb off........ slides been already drilled. 140 main and needle at third clip, factory pilot and air screw 2 1/4 turns out, pretty factory stock.......
Was using alot of fuel in the weekend and what i'd say not running 100%

Lowered the float level, looked to be a tad high , but wasn't over flowing and will give carb a clean out. needle and jet look ok no major wear from what i see.

snorkel on airbox looked pretty small so have taken it off.

Are these bikes pretty lean at factory setting? plugs look certainly show no signs of over fueling.

Worth lifting needle before putting it back in?

Float should be parallel with the bowl surface.
Raise the needle a notch if the snorkel is out.

Slide has one hole stock.

[XF650]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/138830-Suzuki-DR650-Dynojet-Kit-c-w-Extended-Mixture-Screw-Brand-New

[Transalper]

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Are these bikes pretty lean at factory setting?....
Yes they super lean when stock.
J's DR was super hard to start when cold and worse when been sitting for several weeks, also ran like shit for ages until warmed well. We had the jetting messed with by Phil Parash Mechanical (ex DAS) and now starts easy and runs well.
My DR already had been re jetted by previous owner so has always been easy to start for me.
We generally get 320+ km on our tanks (the IMS ones) before reserve. The two worst mileage rides I've had were 1- using a lower ratio set of sprockets (14/43 IIRC) and chasing guys going faster than I usually like on the easy straights... and 2 - Doing a trip mostly at walking speed with a lot of stopped idling waiting for J who was having a very bad day.
Economy normally is fine with our setup (what ever that is) under 110km/hr (indicated).
I leave my snorkles in place because I hate the extra noise without them in and occasionally the puddles get deep enough worry me if it were out.

[Squiggles]

240510

*Does a little dance* :woohoo:

[gazzerklr]

Has anyone tried putting two snorkels in, with the top bit cut a bit shorter? would double the intake without any disadvantages (assuming two would fit)?

[Squiggles]

Has anyone tried putting two snorkels in, with the top bit cut a bit shorter? would double the intake without any disadvantages (assuming two would fit)?

I saw it mentioned here (http://www.procycle.us/info/questions/dr650/fuel_system.html#jet_quest_1)the other day so at least one person has done it...

[cruza]

Yes they super lean when stock.
J's DR was super hard to start when cold and worse when been sitting for several weeks, also ran like shit for ages until warmed well. We had the jetting messed with by Phil Parash Mechanical (ex DAS) and now starts easy and runs well.
My DR already had been re jetted by previous owner so has always been easy to start for me.
We generally get 320+ km on our tanks (the IMS ones)

Yeah motoradical said similar too. i ran dry going into oamaru from chch . choke plunger was dry and dirty, so now wondering if it wasn't shutting properly and causing it to run bit rich. lifted needle one notch before putting it back in too.
see how it goes when rain stops here in chch

[gazzerklr]

I saw it mentioned here (http://www.procycle.us/info/questions/dr650/fuel_system.html#jet_quest_1)the other day so at least one person has done it...

Thanks, anyone know where I can get hold of a DRZ400 snorkel?

[cruza]

What a difference! short blat yesterday thru the chch swamp.
engine smoother, alot less chain slap, more grunt down low.
Took off ignition retarder? on carb too.
Noticed I need more choke to start , so stuck choke theory may have been right:2thumbsup

[Squiggles]

240953

Woooh! :banana::banana::banana:

[Magnum Noel]

Nordie or some one. Trying to install DJ kit but instructions are a bit cofusing. Have put in the new main jet and extended air screw thingy but when it comes to the needle I need help. Do I modify the white washer so that it has one flat side and if so into which groove would you recomend the cilp goes? Put this on ADV but thought local knowledge might be better. cheeers

[NordieBoy]

Nordie or some one. Trying to install DJ kit but instructions are a bit cofusing. Have put in the new main jet and extended air screw thingy but when it comes to the needle I need help. Do I modify the white washer so that it has one flat side and if so into which groove would you recomend the cilp goes? Put this on ADV but thought local knowledge might be better. cheeers

Remove the white spacer. Not for use with the DJ kit.
What muffler are you running and have you opened up the top of the airbox?

Basically ignore the DJ instructions as to jet size too.
Far too rich.

[Aslan]

Nordie or some one. Trying to install DJ kit but instructions are a bit cofusing. Have put in the new main jet and extended air screw thingy but when it comes to the needle I need help. Do I modify the white washer so that it has one flat side and if so into which groove would you recomend the cilp goes? Put this on ADV but thought local knowledge might be better. cheeers

Magnum Noel - just fitted a ProCircuit pipe and DJ kit - removed snorkel and opened airbox somewhat - gave this task to Don Treloar of Motorcycle Maintenance in Stokes Valley - I was happy from him to do the task for me and I'm pleased with the result - yet to establish the impact on fuel consumption - cheers Aslan aka Stephen O

[Magnum Noel]

Remove the white spacer. Not for use with the DJ kit.
What muffler are you running and have you opened up the top of the airbox?

Basically ignore the DJ instructions as to jet size too.
Far too rich.

Nordie just the OEM exhaust. Have put in the DJ 155 main jet. What do you think?

[Magnum Noel]

Magnum Noel - just fitted a ProCircuit pipe and DJ kit - removed snorkel and opened airbox somewhat - gave this task to Don Treloar of Motorcycle Maintenance in Stokes Valley - I was happy from him to do the task for me and I'm pleased with the result - yet to establish the impact on fuel consumption - cheers Aslan aka Stephen O

Cheers for that but on a tight budget and can't afford different pipe or third party mechanic. Look forward to a heads up on fuel consumption/
Noel

[NordieBoy]

Nordie just the OEM exhaust. Have put in the DJ 155 main jet. What do you think?

3rd clip from top?

I'd be tempted to use the 150 main (same as stock) if the air box only has the snorkel removed.

[spannermad]

Cheers for that but on a tight budget and can't afford different pipe or third party mechanic. Look forward to a heads up on fuel consumption/
Noel

My loud CRF muffler for the DR is on trade me. Make an offer if you think it might suit you. I can`t sneek home with it on , it wakes the Mrs up.

[Woodman]

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An inmate here "cobber' who lurks a bit but doesn't post much (probly out riding) purchased his brand new DR650 9 years and 4 months ago and took this pic to celebrate a milestone.

[Magnum Noel]

3rd clip from top?

I'd be tempted to use the 150 main (same as stock) if the air box only has the snorkel removed.

Thanks Nordie have cut the airbox but can't get back down to garage because of baby sitting duty. Man did I have trouble getting the carb back inplace. Will report back.
Cheers Noel

[Magnum Noel]

My loud CRF muffler for the DR is on trade me. Make an offer if you think it might suit you. I can`t sneek home with it on , it wakes the Mrs up.

Whats it listed under?

[bart]

241037


An inmate here "cobber' who lurks a bit but doesn't post much (probly out riding) purchased his brand new DR650 9 years and 4 months ago and took this pic to celebrate a milestone.

Good effort. Will be worth good money now that it's 'low km'. :clap:

[Magnum Noel]

OK have finished install. Omitted white spacer and used third groove down as suggested by Fran. Left the main jet at .155DJ cos couldn't be bothered changing right now. Took bike for a ride and its great. Pulled to 160kph whilst sitting bolt upright and riding slowly was fine with no surging. Got back and adjusted fuel mixture screw as set out in scriptures. So right now I'm happy, but will be very happy if fuel consumption remains the same or better.
cheers Noel:banana:

[NordieBoy]

Got back and adjusted fuel mixture screw as set out in scriptures. So right now I'm happy, but will be very happy if fuel consumption remains the same or better.
cheers Noel:banana:

When adjusting the mixture screw, I crank up the idle a bit and wind the screw out to best revs, then in back half a turn.
Then idle back to 1,500rpm.

[Magnum Noel]

When adjusting the mixture screw, I crank up the idle a bit and wind the screw out to best revs, then in back half a turn.
Then idle back to 1,500rpm.

Is this for fuel consumption reasons?

[NordieBoy]

Is this for fuel consumption reasons?

Otherwise it's too rich off the bottom.

[Squiggles]

Took a bit of twisting and a few washers but the sideracks are now fitted along with the rear one :banana:

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[spannermad]

Whats it listed under?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=384644572

[Eddieb]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=384644572

What are the forks you have fitted? details and pics?

[spannermad]

What are the forks you have fitted? details and pics?

Forks are 2003 KX250, rear shock is DR body with KTM250 internals, muffler is 2004 GSXR1000 shortened (cat removed), carb is DRZ400E.
Forks were an easy fit, stock ignition switch wasn`t. Pegs lowered (cut and weld), fatbars, barkbusters, vapour spedo, DR djebal indicators, HID headlight conversion, 2x 10watt LED spot lights, made my own side racks & bash plate and refoamed and reshaped my arse killing seat.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27/Spannermad/DSCF0709.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27/Spannermad/DSCF0974.jpg

[Magnum Noel]

Otherwise it's too rich off the bottom.

Fran I would have thought that winding it out would have made it richer? I started at 2x turns out, took bike for a ride, came back and slowly turned the srew in until engine revs decreased, stopped and wound it back out until revs increased and then adjusted the idle screw to were I wanted.:scratch:

[NordieBoy]

Fran I would have thought that winding it out would have made it richer? I started at 2x turns out, took bike for a ride, came back and slowly turned the srew in until engine revs decreased, stopped and wound it back out until revs increased and then adjusted the idle screw to were I wanted.:scratch:

If you wind it out to best revs then it's too rich, so in half from there.

[Pikey]

14 Tooth 525 Sprocket available at Levin Motorcycles

[Eddieb]

Someone get in quick.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/fuel-tanks/auction-387351170.htm

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/75/177271175_full.jpg

IMS tank, $250 buy now.

[NordieBoy]

Someone get in quick.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/fuel-tanks/auction-387351170.htm

IMS tank, $250 buy now.

The bike pic is in the USA?

Bloody good price though.

[Eddieb]

The bike pic is in the USA?

Bloody good price though.

You are correct, that is a US pic of the bike.

[Squiggles]

only its a 14L clarke tank and he's probably taken the last pic from this auction (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/fuel-tanks/auction-386586453.htm). Close but only that pic is of an ims

[NordieBoy]

Thought there was something wrong with the front view...

[marks]

this auction (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/fuel-tanks/auction-386586453.htm).

how typical

a local bikeshop wants $600 for a tank that you can buy direct for about $400nz (maybe $500 tops if you get stuck with gst etc)

lets see ...
support my local dealer or buy direct .... ummm

[Pikey]

OK guys. I'm fitting a GSXR600 pipe and cut top airbox:)
Then Dynojet kit. Which jet size to use with this set up? DJ170 or DJ160:confused:

[NordieBoy]

OK guys. I'm fitting a GSXR600 pipe and cut top airbox:)
Then Dynojet kit. Which jet size to use with this set up? DJ170 or DJ160:confused:

160 max.

I don't know of anything that'd require a 170.




Other than a 780 maybe...

[Pikey]

DJ160 it shall be:2thumbsup

[gav24]

160 max.

I don't know of anything that'd require a 170.




Other than a 780 maybe...

Sorry Nordie, you must get so bored of answering these type of queries, but...
My DR650 with Pro circuit, open airbox etc. Dyno jet kit recommends 170 (DJ170-presumably just the initials and not the size is different from the std jet size system?) for that set up.
But 160 would be better....? what about clip position still number 4?
170 has seemed fine for last year or 2, but I do only get 130- 140 (max) kms to reserve...

I bow to your superior knowledge of all things DR650:innocent:

[NordieBoy]

Stock 142 main is the same as the DJ150

DJ160 and 4th down on the needle as a start point.
Mixture screw to suit.

If you stick you finger up it's bum, is there a lot of poo on it or just a light smear?

[dino3310]

its back http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-388860208.htm :corn:

[888]

Finally got a DR650- used with 9k on it, pre-farkled with: FMF Q4 slip on, Happy Trails pannier racks, bash plate, Easton 909 fat bars, Dyno-kit, IMS 18ltr tank. Top chain roller has been removed (good call) and has some bar risers as well. Everything is in pretty good order, with the only areas needing attention being some superficial rust on the frame, left side pannier rack not welded on top side, and two of the rivets on the FMF show gas leakage. How does it run? Absolutely amazing! Have not been off road (asides from figure-8's in between the trees on the front lawn) but even with knobby Pirelli RallyCross tyres it absolutely kicks ass. 150kph top speed with 14/42 sprocket set up, cracks on the power with the slightest twist of the throttle, and sounds amazing. Snorkel has been removed as well. Will be replacing the stock air filter with a NoToil, adding some barkbusters, HD tubes, and replacing the tires with some more road worthy ones to see out the winter. Long term? Full suspension upgrade from the master- Rober Taylor, HID light, magnetic sump plug, lite guard, and whatever other "must have" farkles from Pro-Cycle, Kientech, Happy Trails, and Dual Star. I missed the MMMM run due to work, but will be taking "Thumper Fidelis" off to the Coromandel next fine weekend...:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[Eddieb]

Finally got a DR650- used with 9k on it, pre-farkled with: FMF Q4 slip on, Happy Trails pannier racks, bash plate, Easton 909 fat bars, Dyno-kit, IMS 18ltr tank. Top chain roller has been removed (good call) and has some bar risers as well.

Good buy, having ridden that bike not long before the owner wimped out and got a road bike I can agree it goes very well.

[dino3310]

Good buy, having ridden that bike not long before the owner wimped out and got a road bike I can agree it goes very well.

yeah 5150 was getting that ride pretty sorted looks like you got a goodie there 888 and with the extra mods your looking at its gonna have the wow factor.
was eyeing it up myself but the accountant said F#@k of no more bikes :lol:

[888]

Yeah, I'm pretty stoked with my purchase! I'm putting on a Shinko 700 rear this week (hoping to get under the 30 minute mark, it's those damn beers that keep slowing my tire changing) and putting in HD tubes. I got some wrap around Oxford hand warmers on the way, and will report on them shortly. Net reviews say they work pretty good- just have to turn them off/on as they get pretty damn hot. I just love the sound of the exhaust- I've removed the spark arrestor....:innocent: Scared the shit (literally) out of the cows in the paddock last night when I blasted up the driveway. The TTR just never seemed to faze them....:facepalm:

[Squiggles]

looks like a well sorted dr :niceone:

[Phreaky Phil]

Time for new chain and sprockets. What options of 520 sprockets are available in NZ. I think i'll go for the520 over the 525 so I can run 14/15&16 front sprockets. Reckon on a 44 rear. Got a 45 rear at the moment.

[bart]

Time for new chain and sprockets. What options of 520 sprockets are available in NZ. I think i'll go for the520 over the 525 so I can run 14/15&16 front sprockets. Reckon on a 44 rear. Got a 45 rear at the moment.

You can get a 16 in 525. One of my mates runs 16/39. I think he had the 39 made though.

Do you sacrifice wear by going 520? The chain width is noticably different.

I bought a cheap 525, thinking that a cheap 525 would be as good an average 520. How wrong was I. It's still stretching after 5000km. Have to adjust it every ride. :facepalm:

[Phreaky Phil]

You can get a 16 in 525. One of my mates runs 16/39. I think he had the 39 made though.

Do you sacrifice wear by going 520? The chain width is noticably different.

I bought a cheap 525, thinking that a cheap 525 would be as good an average 520. How wrong was I. It's still stretching after 5000km. Have to adjust it every ride. :facepalm:My chain has syarted to stretch like mad in the last few rides. It was on the bike when I got it and ive done another 7000km on it. With equivalent chains, the 525 sprockets should last longer. If I can get a 16 tooth 525 I mite go that way.

[NordieBoy]

Kientech do a 16/45 in 525.

The only thing I don't like about the 525's is the price of the chain.
16/45 is the same as 15/42 but you have the choice of running a 14-15 too.

[888]

Just put a Shinko 700 on the rear, looks like it will a slightly better grip than the Pirelli A/T90 I've run in the past. Pirelli rallycross in the front- will be testing on this combo on the coastal gravel roads in the Coromandel this weekend. :yes::yes:

[NordieBoy]

Just put a Shinko 700 on the rear, looks like it will a slightly better grip than the Pirelli A/T90 I've run in the past. Pirelli rallycross in the front- will be testing on this combo on the coastal gravel roads in the Coromandel this weekend. :yes::yes:

I like the mt21 on the front. As it's non-directional, when the rear of the knobs wear, spin it around and even it up. Lasts a lot longer...

[Squiggles]

Is your airbox stock Nordie?

[888]

I've cleaned out the small circular air filter under the seat as it was pretty dirty, how the hell do I get it apart to re-oil the little foam filter? I was considering cutting up a piece of an old (but cleaned/oiled) ttr air filter and inserting it on top to improve the filtration. I see that ProCycle have an improved after market design but that will have to wait...:crybaby: Anyone have an clever ideas?

[NordieBoy]

Is your airbox stock Nordie?

Not likely.
The top is gutted to within an inch of it's life.

[NordieBoy]

I've cleaned out the small circular air filter under the seat as it was pretty dirty, how the hell do I get it apart to re-oil the little foam filter? I was considering cutting up a piece of an old (but cleaned/oiled) ttr air filter and inserting it on top to improve the filtration. I see that ProCycle have an improved after market design but that will have to wait...:crybaby: Anyone have an clever ideas?

It doesn't come apart.

You can rip the foam out and push in some air filter foam or I used a small unifilter type breather filter.
The pumper carbs don't use it at all.

[888]

Thanks for that, sounds like I'm on the right track. Where did you source your small unifilter?

[888]

pumper carbs....have to google that. Sounds like something that I want, actually it sounds like something I must have!

[Squiggles]

Not likely.
The top is gutted to within an inch of it's life.

Had any issues with water crossings?

[NordieBoy]

Had any issues with water crossings?

Not yet.

I had it up to the bottom of the seat once though.
Must have been a gnats whisker away from drowning it.
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/Trips/slides/20081006-172141.jpg

The snorkel only makes it 5mm higher...

[Squiggles]

The snorkel only makes it 5mm higher...

Yeah but i doubt the snorkel will let water flood in :eek:
I'm thinking of cutting the top off mine soonish.

Saw the XT in colebatch's thread ended up with water in the crankcase after submersion, the DR seems to have a similar setup but a quick google didn't bring up any sad tales

[888]

I would hate to have to change the shinko 700 in the field- spent about an hour last night, sweating like a rapist, trying to get the final 30cm to go on. No luck. Just drove in to the local bike shop and a an experienced staff member had a crack with tire levers and rubber mallet- no luck. He finally put in on the machine and finally got it on. Looks like it's going to be a great tire...just hope like hell I never get a flat....:apumpin::apumpin:

[888]

it gets better- I've just realized that the tire was put on against the direction of travel arrow. I'll try and reverse it tommorow:cry::cry:

[Willdat?]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/fuel-tanks/auction-389367065.htm

[gazzerklr]

New IMS for a good price
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=390506642

[dino3310]

it gets better- I've just realized that the tire was put on against the direction of travel arrow. I'll try and reverse it tommorow:cry::cry:

:clap: i've seen mechanics on here do the same, no names offcourse:msn-wink:
another good excuse to crack into some beer:laugh:

[tri boy]

:clap: i've seen mechanics on here do the same, no names offcourse:msn-wink:



Careful. I'll poke ya with a stick where your tender:Pokey::wacko:
(and it's not ya eyes)

[Pikey]

It's easy look! http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UMEYTtfC2TwuDu8qTUZPVACEexcI_8NhCKE2_pURFYjxfVqRVp Wfd2EUawN6YYisltN2En4fwyEaWMRm_wq5smtPxMMbPpE/TireChangeTR.pdf
:apumpin: Yeah Right!:no:

[Eddieb]

It's easy look! http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UMEYTtfC2TwuDu8qTUZPVACEexcI_8NhCKE2_pURFYjxfVqRVp Wfd2EUawN6YYisltN2En4fwyEaWMRm_wq5smtPxMMbPpE/TireChangeTR.pdf
:apumpin: Yeah Right!:no:

Come on! Thats not a 5 minute tyre change, she changed clothes in the middle of it.

[dino3310]

It's easy look! http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UMEYTtfC2TwuDu8qTUZPVACEexcI_8NhCKE2_pURFYjxfVqRVp Wfd2EUawN6YYisltN2En4fwyEaWMRm_wq5smtPxMMbPpE/TireChangeTR.pdf
:apumpin: Yeah Right!:no:

mx tires are a shit load easier than most DOT rated

[Night Falcon]

it gets better- I've just realized that the tire was put on against the direction of travel arrow. I'll try and reverse it tommorow:cry::cry:

...no you right the first time....backwards is the right way on DR's :laugh:

[TangoCharlie]

Need a new dirt focused rear tyre as the Kenda 760 has MAJOR wear after only a few 100 road k's. Looking at a Dunlop 606, but thought the 605 might last a bit long if I can get it in. 17". Anyone tried these bad boys?

[Phreaky Phil]

Mitas E09, Michelin T63, Pirelli MT21 & Dunlop 606 are all good dirt focus tyres. The Dunlop 605 and others arent really dirt focus.(:argue: ready for the onslaught, ive taken mine here & there with bla bla tire ) BUT if its wet they arent too good. Gravel road tyres IMO.

[NordieBoy]

Need a new dirt focused rear tyre as the Kenda 760 has MAJOR wear after only a few 100 road k's. Looking at a Dunlop 606, but thought the 605 might last a bit long if I can get it in. 17". Anyone tried these bad boys?

What do you people do to your tyres?

My 760 rear isn't down to half yet and has done a thousand km or so...

[Phreaky Phil]

What do you people do to your tyres?

My 760 rear isn't down to half yet and has done a thousand km or so...The last 760 I ran, which was a few years back on my !st DR650 did 2500km in the Sth Isl and still had some left. Ive got 1 on at the moment that I used for our Liquifaction ride, but I mite take it off and save it for later.

[NordieBoy]

Ive got 1 on at the moment that I used for our Liquifaction ride, but I mite take it off and save it for later.

Mine is on my dirt wheelset but may last for some time now the TT350 is being used for the dirtier riding...

[JATZ]

What do you people do to your tyres?

My 760 rear isn't down to half yet and has done a thousand km or so...

:gob: MrsJ's done somewhere in the region of 15000k's on the 350 and she's about 3/4 way through her 2nd 760

Mind you I'd only get about 2500k's on the 750 before they were next to useless

[Eddieb]

I see procycle are listing lots of new goodies for the DR including but not limited to:

Oversize valve and seat kits $360
high output stators $220
Their own replacement seat padding and cover kit, in the same vein as the seat concepts one $149 - $165
FLY TEKKER helmets $135 - $145 There's quite a cool yellowy green one too

All prices are $US

[Squiggles]

FLY TEKKER helmets $135 - $145 There's quite a cool yellowy green one too

If they were on a month ago when I made my last order i'd be even poorer for it :violin:

The tkc80 i've got on the rear has now done ~13k and is pretty much finished, might pick another one up next time they're on special at cycletreads

[Eddieb]

If they were on a month ago when I made my last order i'd be even poorer for it :violin:

The tkc80 i've got on the rear has now done ~13k and is pretty much finished, might pick another one up next time they're on special at cycletreads

You get 13k out of a rear TKC80?

Do you ride on the front wheel only a lot?

[Squiggles]

You get 13k out of a rear TKC80?

Do you ride on the front wheel only a lot?

I don't know how I've managed it unless everyone else throws em away before the blocks are gone...

[bart]

I must be doing something wrong. I don't think I've seen more than 4k out of any rear tyre, road or knob. :gob: Even MT60's and similar only last FA. :blink:

[bart]

I currently have a small puddle of oil under the front wheel of my bike. How big a job is replacing fork seals? I don't have a lot of time at the mo, so is it an easy fix, or should I support my local bike mechanic (wifeys still grumpy after the last $350 bill).

[Eddieb]

I currently have a small puddle of oil under the front wheel of my bike. How big a job is replacing fork seals? I don't have a lot of time at the mo, so is it an easy fix, or should I support my local bike mechanic (wifeys still grumpy after the last $350 bill).

Last time I did one, many years ago, it took about 1 1/2 hours. If you have to undo the bolt under the bottom of the fork leg it can be a right dog unless you have a special tool or a rattle gun.

[Woodman]

I currently have a small puddle of oil under the front wheel of my bike. How big a job is replacing fork seals? I don't have a lot of time at the mo, so is it an easy fix, or should I support my local bike mechanic (wifeys still grumpy after the last $350 bill).

Its easy as bro, but first try what Nordie did and get a real thin feeler guage and push it between the seal and the fork and slide it right around. It must clean it or something cos he reckons it stopped his leaking for ages. He will be along shortly to clarify anything I missed.

[NordieBoy]

Its easy as bro, but first try what Nordie did and get a real thin feeler guage and push it between the seal and the fork and slide it right around. It must clean it or something cos he reckons it stopped his leaking for ages. He will be along shortly to clarify anything I missed.

Been fine since August 2008.
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/thumbs/20080822-194606-000002.jpg

[NordieBoy]

I currently have a small puddle of oil under the front wheel of my bike. How big a job is replacing fork seals? I don't have a lot of time at the mo, so is it an easy fix, or should I support my local bike mechanic (wifeys still grumpy after the last $350 bill).

Brake side seal?

[Phreaky Phil]

Been checking out the shops for chain and sprockets. Seems the suzuki dealer and another shop only have 41-43 rear sprocets available and 14-15 fronts. Im not sure where the 45 sprocket thats on my bike came from.
Ive also checked out Chaingang sprockets. They make there own sprockets and they are Flame hardened and last for yonks. ( I had one on my old DR and sold it with the bike ) They are a bit pricey though @ $150
Do you want a sprocket that will outlast the chain. ?
Hmmmmm

[NordieBoy]

41 is NZ DR
42 is US DR
43 is XF650

45 in 525 is Kientech?

[fridayflash]

:gob: MrsJ's done somewhere in the region of 15000k's on the 350 and she's about 3/4 way through her 2nd 760

Mind you I'd only get about 2500k's on the 750 before they were next to useless

interesting what you folks are saying about the kenda 760stheyre a good trail tyre and were originally a copy of the then legendary allrounder dunlop d752 (rip, boohoo:violin:)

im running one one my dr and find it great but only done about 1200kms and its rooted (run at 20 psi)

so like the other bloke im torn between buying another 760 (i need it this weekend)
or trying a dunlop 606, can anyone advise what sort or mileage to expect from the joey? (dunlop :facepalm:)

i dont even know how much they are, but i like dirt oriented tyres

[Phreaky Phil]

41 is NZ DR
42 is US DR
43 is XF650

45 in 525 is Kientech?Just found VSM do 44's for $A60 That will cost about $NZ100 to get here. Forgot to ask what the 41-43's cost at the bike shop.

[Steelie]

I got a 44 from VSM a couple of days ago with other bits. Took a fookin long time to arrive. They did appoligise for the delay. Havnt fitted it yet. Waiting to go for a ride then do a quick change to have a comparison.

[Phreaky Phil]

I got a 44 from VSM a couple of days ago with other bits. Took a fookin long time to arrive. They did appoligise for the delay. Havnt fitted it yet. Waiting to go for a ride then do a quick change to have a comparison.What is your current gearing ? I'm running 14/45. I like it, especially 2up. I want a 44 rear then can use 14-15 & maybe 16 fronts. With the 16 front that will give me almost the same gearing as standard

[JATZ]

interesting what you folks are saying about the kenda 760stheyre a good trail tyre and were originally a copy of the then legendary allrounder dunlop d752 (rip, boohoo:violin:)

im running one one my dr and find it great but only done about 1200kms and its rooted (run at 20 psi)

so like the other bloke im torn between buying another 760 (i need it this weekend)
or trying a dunlop 606, can anyone advise what sort or mileage to expect from the joey? (dunlop :facepalm:)

i dont even know how much they are, but i like dirt oriented tyres

Now I'm suspicious :blink:

My Idea of rooted is.... I can see canvas :shit:

I generally run em till there's no tread left in the middle.
D606 were a bit spendy for me when the 760 will do the job and last o.k.

[Steelie]

What is your current gearing ? I'm running 14/45. I like it, especially 2up. I want a 44 rear then can use 14-15 & maybe 16 fronts. With the 16 front that will give me almost the same gearing as standard

I think its stock 15? up front. Stock all round anyway at the moment.

[TangoCharlie]

Just fitted a dynojet kit and drilled the carb slide. Seems a bit more responsive but haven't ridden it since end of summer. TM40 Pumper Carb is still on my must have summer 2011/12 things

[Eddieb]

What is your current gearing ? I'm running 14/45. I like it, especially 2up. I want a 44 rear then can use 14-15 & maybe 16 fronts. With the 16 front that will give me almost the same gearing as standard

Don't you find that really buzzy? I put the 14 on with stock 41 rear and found that annoying. My bike is a little more vibey that DR's usually are though.

[Steelie]

Fitted my new screen and went for quick spin in the wind and rain. Was pretty impressed. Will make big difference at open road speeds. Got the clear one so I can possibly mount my Garmin phone/camera/gps and take the odd photo/ video through it on fine days

[Phreaky Phil]

Don't you find that really buzzy? I put the 14 on with stock 41 rear and found that annoying. My bike is a little more vibey that DR's usually are though.No, not to vibey. On long road trips it could be taller,but on gravel and backroads I like it. Especially with the pillion. I am probably using a gear higher than what i would be withi stock gearing. I may run higher gearing once I get the 780 installed, but if we're going to be doing off roadstuff I reckon I will use the 14/45 or 14/44.

[888]

Dual, that screen looks great, who sells them?

[DR650gary]

After the sale of my DR650, I have been clearing out the spares but kept a few aside for my son's bike but no longer requires them.

I have a screen cowl in white which I bought so I could hard mount a windscreen but retain a stock one as well without holes, a yellow front guard and a right rear sidecover (unmelted). I also have a set of trail wings in as new condition but based on all the comments here they are probably not wanted but I found them ok for all but muddy/sandy riding. The guy I bought them off motarded his bike from new so when I say as new, I mean almost unworn at all.

Any interest, text me 0272245261 or drop a PM here.

If no interest, I'll file them away in the barn for the day he does drop the bike.

Cheers

[dino3310]

aint nothing wrong with the trailwings, just too many fussy fellas on here:yes: i've been getting 4k out of my rear TW's:woohoo:

[Steelie]

Dual, that screen looks great, who sells them?

Godiva Windscreens.
There in Hamilton too!

http://www.godiva.co.nz/index.html

[Phreaky Phil]

aint nothing wrong with the trailwings, just too many fussy fellas on here:yes: i've been getting 4k out of my rear TW's:woohoo:They dont call them "Death Wings" for nothing :shit:

[Phreaky Phil]

Been checking out the shops for chain and sprockets. Seems the suzuki dealer and another shop only have 41-43 rear sprocets available and 14-15 fronts. Im not sure where the 45 sprocket thats on my bike came from.
Ive also checked out Chaingang sprockets. They make there own sprockets and they are Flame hardened and last for yonks. ( I had one on my old DR and sold it with the bike ) They are a bit pricey though @ $150
Do you want a sprocket that will outlast the chain. ?
HmmmmmToday I stopped in at the Suzuki shop and priced the Suzuki sprockets. Got a pleasent surprise, the 43tooth rear Genuine sprocket is only $56. Fronts $28. hard to beat that:yes:

[NordieBoy]

Some good info here.
<iframe width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xzLpG2Cxj5U?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The brake line is meant to go on the inside of the leg though...

[fridayflash]

Now I'm suspicious :blink:

My Idea of rooted is.... I can see canvas :shit:

I generally run em till there's no tread left in the middle.
D606 were a bit spendy for me when the 760 will do the job and last o.k.

yep, its got no spare rubber left down the centre, not down to canvas yet
but basically useless now

i might try another 760 and see how long it lasts

[Aslan]

Some good info here.


The brake line is meant to go on the inside of the leg though...

thanks for posting Fran - entertaining and informative - to quote Dino 'gotta love those DR's'

[Shewolf]

+1 they'll cut down things on the spot too about $40 to get this trimmed for the AX, need to get it done slightly more for the DR


Godiva Windscreens.
There in Hamilton too!

http://www.godiva.co.nz/index.html

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/Trips/Coromandel%20Nov%202010/DSCN1059.jpg

[Eddieb]

Today I stopped in at the Suzuki shop and priced the Suzuki sprockets. Got a pleasent surprise, the 43tooth rear Genuine sprocket is only $56. Fronts $28. hard to beat that:yes:

A 47T off an '95 DR won't fit?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/chains-sprockets/auction-391558856.htm

[NordieBoy]

94-95 350 rear sprockets and pre 96 650 front sprockets.

[bart]

I'm owed a few hours at work, so taking Friday off. I thought I'd better have a look at this puddle of oil under my bike. Ordering some fork seals tonight. What oil is best, and what traps are there with putting in new fork seals? :facepalm:

Will I need the whole 3 day weekend to change them, or will I actually get a ride in? :shutup:

Cheers for any help. :scooter:

[Steelie]

I got a 44 from VSM a couple of days ago with other bits. Took a fookin long time to arrive. They did apologise for the delay. Havnt fitted it yet. Waiting to go for a ride then do a quick change to have a comparison.

Finally fitted 44 tooth rear sprocket - with standard front on. Been for decent ride and its real good. Perfect gearing for me. Cheap- what feels like a power upgrade with bugger all sacrifice with the higher revs at 100km+ speeds.

[Eddieb]

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/08/30/suzuki-dr650-street-tracker/

http://thekneeslider.com/images/2010/08/dr650-street-tracker-2.jpg

[Crim]

The world's first cool DR :woohoo: - be careful Eddie any more work and the bloke will end up with a KLR

[thepom]

Looks cool actually.....

[Woodman]

Like it, like it a lot.

[gav24]

Few hours off work this morning...
US $ still weak...
couldnt help it....

...cant ...

...resist....

...procycle website...

...TM40...

...$590 NZ to the door...

...must...

..not...

...click!...

...Damn it...:facepalm:

On its way now:woohoo::woohoo:
Just got to tell the missus now... Text or email?:innocent::shutup:
I'm about to test the maxim "Easier to beg forgivness than ask permission":love:

[Eddieb]

Bugger, had I known we could have shared postage.

I'm going to order Intiminators and a few other bits in the next week or so.

[gav24]

Youre the second person who's said that to me since I placed the order:facepalm:
Sorry Guys!
I'm no financial whizz, but I didnt want to hang about, the exchange rate was great (or shit depending on your point of view) 2 days ago ahead of the US government deciding on a way to not run out of money. Seems that their crap solution of adding a trillion or so to the debt ceiling and spending a trillion less has abated the markets a little and the usual US/NZ exchange rate is slowly returning - for now! Thought I would jump in quick rather than wait for everyone else to sort their orders out. Plus I had to do it under cloak and dagger secrecy, as the cash came from the house fund:innocent::shutup:
Like I said I'm no expert, but I suspect the rate will reduce slightly and when that trillion is spent up - probably 1 or 2 days time, depending on military spending:gob: - we'll be back to the higher rates again.
As a side, the yearly USA military spend is more than the rest of the worlds combined military spend! 1 Trillion bugger all to those guys:shit:

[Eddieb]

Youre the second person who's said that to me since I placed the order:facepalm:
Sorry Guys!

I had to do it under cloak and dagger secrecy, as the cash came from the house fund:innocent::shutup:


No worries, I wouldn't want to be guilty by association in a murder anyway ;)

[Crim]

as the cash came from the house fund:innocent::shutup:


rename the house fund to the "motorbike & house fund" problem fixed

[Eddieb]

rename the house fund to the "motorbike & house fund" problem fixed

and how well would that go down with your wife Crim?

[Crim]

and how well would that go down with your wife Crim?

Eddie, Eddie, Eddie I could do that no problems




she's not looking is she???????:shit:

[gav24]

Confirmation email sent, carb is already on its way:woohoo:
I'm still at work...
Missus is at home....
Shared email account:facepalm::shit: (I know, a rookie error!)
Noticed it had already been read when I found it... to late to delete it now...:bye:
...There may be trouble ahead:shit:

Send out a search party if I dont post within 24 hours.
Begin the search in the dog house, failing that look at stuff that I may be strung up by my balls on...

[Phreaky Phil]

Few hours off work this morning...
US $ still weak...
couldnt help it....

...cant ...

...resist....

...procycle website...

...TM40...

...$590 NZ to the door...

...must...

..not...

...click!...

...Damn it...:facepalm:

On its way now:woohoo::woohoo:
Just got to tell the missus now... Text or email?:innocent::shutup:
I'm about to test the maxim "Easier to beg forgivness than ask permission":love:Unless you're really lucky, thats guna cost you about another $ 120 in GST and other BS charges:facepalm:

[gav24]

Yeah I know!
Motorcycle parts are exempt from customs duty though. I checked:yes:
So should be GST only, 15%of $590 is just under $90 isnt it?
MAF shouldnt have any interest in new stuff like that should they?
Any other charges I've missed?

[gav24]

...There may be trouble ahead:shit:

Send out a search party if I dont post within 24 hours.
Begin the search in the dog house, failing that look at stuff that I may be strung up by my balls on...

Call off the search party! Its all OK! I'm alive, and not in any trouble:blink:

I thought this approach may be worth a try - and it worked, a recommended course of action to counter unplanned spending, feel free to try it yourself (no promises though - not sure if its 100% efective) :-

Told her that the US/NZ $ meant it was a good time to spend on luxuries, put her onto www.etsy.com and then retreated to a quiet corner with both kids in my arms as protection...

...Leanne was so impressed that she even bought me a couple of T-Shirts off the site as well. :shit:

She must be about to leave me, as she gave me beer and took the eldest up to bed for his stories - usually my job. Not back down yet, and her new shopping hasnt arrived so I presume its me thats moving out...:bye:

Seriously though - she is friggin' awesome! :love::love:

[cruza]

Carbs.....

is it the american spec dr's have slightly different carb? non adjustable needle or something?
Couple of good ones floating round at mo, may upgrade.

both look like they have km on speedo and small taillight/brakelight.

[gav24]

Nah, no major differences. Mine is a Canadian spec bike and came with a Mph speedo originally, and still has the Fugly big back light.
Some of the bracketry around the choke looks a bit different to an NZ bike's version, but the carb itself is the same underneath.
Not worth swapping an NZ spec carb for a US one. Fitting a dynojet kit (or procycle kit) is certainly worth it, but only if you make the pipe and airbox mods as well.

[Phreaky Phil]

Yeah I know!
Motorcycle parts are exempt from customs duty though. I checked:yes:
So should be GST only, 15%of $590 is just under $90 isnt it?
MAF shouldnt have any interest in new stuff like that should they?
Any other charges I've missed?Wishful thinking. They charge gst + import transaction fee $22 + biosecurity levy $11.10 + gst on the last 2 items. So for a $450 US item thats another $127.62 NZ :angry::angry::angry::angry: Get this feeling:buggerd: ??

[bart]

I thought this approach may be worth a try - and it worked, a recommended course of action to counter unplanned spending, feel free to try it yourself (no promises though - not sure if its 100% efective) :-
:

Man, that is so tempting. We're currently between houses. Having sold and not bought yet, there's a reasonable lump of $$$$ sitting idle in the bank. Interest rate is shit, so perhaps I should invest in bike parts....:blink:

I somehow think my missus wouldn't be so forgiving. :shit:

[Phreaky Phil]

There is a DRZ250 front end on TradeMe. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/suspension/auction-395852116.htm I'm sure these are a 43mm set of forks and have the compression and rebound adjusters like late DR350 forks. Being 43mm they would fit the stock triple clamps.

[NordieBoy]

There is a DRZ250 front end on TradeMe. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/suspension/auction-395852116.htm I'm sure these are a 43mm set of forks and have the compression and rebound adjusters like late DR350 forks. Being 43mm they would fit the stock triple clamps.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=397263614

This one too..

USD's

[bart]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=397263614

This one too..

USD's

Do you reackon they would fit? I'm after something that would bolt straight up without too much shagging around.

[Phreaky Phil]

Do you reackon they would fit? I'm after something that would bolt straight up without too much shagging around.Anything can be made to fit. With MX forks there's no speedo drive so your'e up for a digital speedo. Also need brackets for the ignition switch and steering stop mods usually. Also with 300mm of travel it will sit the front quite high if you do nothing with the back. And making the DR wheel fit will involve a lot of shagging around or get a RMZ or whatever wheel to fit.
Thats why I posted the DRZ250 front end. I'm pretty sure they are 43mm cartridge forks, same size as the DR650 so would bolt into the original triple clamps saving a lot of work. The DR650 wheel may fit without too much work, otherwise use the DRZ250 wheel and fit a bigger disc kit if the brake isnt good enough. Ive still got the drz400 brake on mine. Its OK :shit: just with 2 of us on it. I will swap it for a 320mm supermoto setup soon.

[NordieBoy]

Got a complete 2003 YZ250 USD front end including an excel wheel and new axle and spacers here...
The DR stem can be pressed straight in and the DR brake system bolts up with a tiny bit of calliper grinding....

Got the forks from a dodgy phreak though...

I'd swap the lot for a complete XR400 front end...

[bart]

Anything can be made to fit. With MX forks there's no speedo drive so your'e up for a digital speedo. Also need brackets for the ignition switch and steering stop mods usually. Also with 300mm of travel it will sit the front quite high if you do nothing with the back. And making the DR wheel fit will involve a lot of shagging around or get a RMZ or whatever wheel to fit.
Thats why I posted the DRZ250 front end. I'm pretty sure they are 43mm cartridge forks, same size as the DR650 so would bolt into the original triple clamps saving a lot of work. The DR650 wheel may fit without too much work, otherwise use the DRZ250 wheel and fit a bigger disc kit if the brake isnt good enough. Ive still got the drz400 brake on mine. Its OK :shit: just with 2 of us on it. I will swap it for a 320mm supermoto setup soon.

Cheers. I'm just weighing up some options. The DRZ250 sounds like a good option, but shipping from the mainland may negate any saving. Best option may be to modify my existing forks (intiminators or whatever). I'd love to go to upside down jobbies, but if it cost a couple of hundy to make it fit, it's not worth it. I'm not planning on jumping table tops....often :facepalm:

[bart]

BTW, fitting new fork seals tomorrow (well, atempting too).

Mentioned on the packet:

CR125R 84-86
CR250R 82
CR480R 82
KX500 83-88
DR650SE 96-11
DR800 (Euro) 91-97
RM125 84-88
RM250 83-88
RM465 81-82
RM500 83-84
IT200 84-86
IT250 83
IT490 83-84
TT600 83-86
TTR250 99-06
YZ125 86-88
YZ250 81-88
YZ465 81
YZ490 82-90

I guess that says the DR is pretty old tech :shit:

[Woodman]

Not a DR but relevant all the same. There must be literally hundreds of klrs with usd forks on them. The conversions can be a bitch apparently, especially with steering locks /key etc but most say its worth it, in fact i suspect a lot are done for looks only. I thought about it and looked at Nordies yz ones, but in the end decided that if I did a front end swap then the rear would feel inadequate and then more $$$ to do that etc etc. Would be better off just selling it (never) and getting a ktm or something that already handles without having to go down the frankenbike route and it still not being all that great. Would be a good project though, but at the moment my money is better spent on gas, tyres and rego.

[dino3310]

BTW, fitting new fork seals tomorrow (well, atempting too).

I guess that says the DR is pretty old tech :shit:

it was new Tech in 1990 :laugh:

[bart]

it was new Tech in 1990 :laugh:

Sad thing is that my bro has a mint 1980 something CR125 in his shed, and I'm thinking about butchering it for parts. :shutup:

(Might be an '88 though, not an '86.... I'll have to check)

[Pikey]

Made this from template on ADVRider. Thanks Lincoln.
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[NordieBoy]

Made this from template on ADVRider. Thanks Lincoln.
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I notice he's removed the pics (patent pending) now...

[Pikey]

Was not a problem :yes:
Just sent him an email and he emailed template etc to me :niceone:

[Squiggles]

Made this from template on ADVRider. Thanks Lincoln.
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What is it made of?

[gav24]

Looks good!
Better than most of the bought ones. Let us know how it works after a test ride...

[gav24]

Sad thing is that my bro has a mint 1980 something CR125 in his shed, and I'm thinking about butchering it for parts. :shutup:

(Might be an '88 though, not an '86.... I'll have to check)

Mint 80's bike:yes:... Butcher it for parts:gob::shit:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Wait til bikes are crashed / blown up first man!

If he doesnt want it, I may have room in the cave for it...

[NordieBoy]

What is it made of?

Made mine from a rubbish bin...

[Pikey]

Acrylic shower lining :2thumbsup
Seemed to provide some protection. Bit weird not seeing the front end though?
May try clear or tinted one?

[bart]

Mint 80's bike:yes:... Butcher it for parts:gob::shit:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Wait til bikes are crashed / blown up first man!

If he doesnt want it, I may have room in the cave for it...

He bought it new. A couple of years ago he put in the spare piston/rings etc, thinking he'd get back into trail rides, then it was retired as he bought a new CRF250R. Mint bike.

I started pulling my forks to bits today. Didn't get far. I'm going to have to borrow some tools. Looks a little more complex than I thought.

[Shewolf]

it'll look very Dakar :woohoo: - I always wondered how they see the front bits with all that stuff mounted on?


Acrylic shower lining :2thumbsup
Seemed to provide some protection. Bit weird not seeing the front end though?
May try clear or tinted one?

[The Pastor]

what's the benefit of the dr650 over the dr400? Looking to sell my GSX1200 and get a gravel bike.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/140804-2000-Suzuki-GSX1200-FS

[gijoe1313]

Ahahaha thought RM would end up in here ... :msn-wink:

[dino3310]

what's the benefit of the dr650 over the dr400? Looking to sell my GSX1200 and get a gravel bike.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/140804-2000-Suzuki-GSX1200-FS

depends on how much fun you wanna have offroad, 650 got longer legs and more weight, 400 a shit load lighter with better suspension, might pay to ride around on them both see what suits you

[Phreaky Phil]

what's the benefit of the dr650 over the dr400? Looking to sell my GSX1200 and get a gravel bike.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/140804-2000-Suzuki-GSX1200-FSOn road capability for the DR650. You can do big miles on a DRZ400 but its nicer on the 650. The 400 has it off road though, so its a toss up. For mainly gravel roading get a 650, a big tank and a better seat

[The Pastor]

On road capability for the DR650. You can do big miles on a DRZ400 but its nicer on the 650. The 400 has it off road though, so its a toss up. For mainly gravel roading get a 650, a big tank and a better seat

this is what Im thinking, because although i love gravel roads, i'd mainly be riding on sealed roads most of the time :(

[dino3310]

or you could get both attributes in a BRP:2thumbsup

[Eddieb]

or you could get both attributes in a BRP:2thumbsup

Your opinion doesn't count, everyone knows your dreams contain DR's, you're just living in denial.

[The Pastor]

or you could get both attributes in a BRP:2thumbsup

what is a brp?

[dino3310]

Big Red Pig http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/88273-XR650r-owners-thread

[Phreaky Phil]

this is what Im thinking, because although i love gravel roads, i'd mainly be riding on sealed roads most of the time :(We ride gravel roads most of the time :yes:to get to the OTHER bits where it can get a bit dirty sometimes:facepalm:then you wish you had a WR250:woohoo:

[888]

Anyone lowered their DR650 using the upper rear shock hole? Looks like a relatively simple operation of shorter side stand/raise front forks 3/4"/mount rear shock to upper hole. From the different forums I've read, it won't affect performance (unless thrashing off road...)and could actually help on road riding. Any opinions?

[Eddieb]

Mine was in the lowered position when I got it and it was a relatively simple procedure to change it back, once I, or rather BMWRSNUT was able to get the bolt undone. The forks were raised in the clamps to compensate at the front.

It gave a bit of extra confidence on the road and light gravel, but I ground out the bashplate half a dozen times each way going over Maungatapu track with the Nelson boys.

[NordieBoy]

Anyone lowered their DR650 using the upper rear shock hole? Looks like a relatively simple operation of shorter side stand/raise front forks 3/4"/mount rear shock to upper hole. From the different forums I've read, it won't affect performance (unless thrashing off road...)and could actually help on road riding. Any opinions?

The quick way is to loosen off the spring, flip the bottom collar to limit the travel and put bolt in the upper hole.
The front can just be raised through the clamps but to reduce the travel you need to move the spacer on the top of the spring to under the damper rod.

It takes it to KLR type ground clearance.

It's only 26cm to start with.

[888]

Thanks for that, looks like I'll wait till my Procycle supermoto wheels get fitted before I lower it, doesn't seem like there is any real gain for dual sporting. I can keep the focus on the immediate HEL brake lines upgrade. Can't wait to feel the improved braking.

[Phreaky Phil]

The quick way is to loosen off the spring, flip the bottom collar to limit the travel and put bolt in the upper hole.
The front can just be raised through the clamps but to reduce the travel you need to move the spacer on the top of the spring to under the damper rod.

It takes it to KLR type ground clearance.

It's only 26cm to start with.What Nordie said is the right way to lower the forks. By just sliding the up through the clamps, there will be a point at which the tire will bottom out under the guard. This can result in the wheel locking when it contacts the guard. Bad idea:shit:

[MXNUT]

The quick way is to loosen off the spring, flip the bottom collar to limit the travel and put bolt in the upper hole.

Can you just flip the bottom collar over on the rear spring ???.
The Workshop manual says that you need to buy a different spring collar.:shifty:

Just bought a mint DR650 last weekend for SUZI GIRL to replace her DR200 and i will need to lower it for her.

[Pikey]

I lowered mine. Followed the instructions in the manual (downloaded from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DR650) Flipped over the rear shock spacer and relocated the spacer in the forks. Suits me fine now:)

[NordieBoy]

Can you just flip the bottom collar over on the rear spring ???.
The Workshop manual says that you need to buy a different spring collar.:shifty:

Just bought a mint DR650 last weekend for SUZI GIRL to replace her DR200 and i will need to lower it for her.

There is no collar to buy.

Do the rear, push the front through the clamps and do the front properly some time before doing jumps...

[Magnum Noel]

I lowered mine. Followed the instructions in the manual (downloaded from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DR650) Flipped over the rear shock spacer and relocated the spacer in the forks. Suits me fine now:)

Thats what I did too. Can touch the ground now and havn't fallen over in the drive like i used to.:laugh:

[Pikey]

Thats what I did too. Can touch the ground now and havn't fallen over in the drive like i used to.:laugh:

I hear ya! :shit:

[888]

So.. a local motocycle shop has quoted me $90.00 for a set of SBS front brake pads for my DR650- seems pretty pricey to me- they reckon it is a "normal" price for brake pads. What's the verdict? Anybody bought front brake pads and how much did they pay?:shit:

[Transalper]

Well IIRC my last brake pad purchase was DR650 rears at $38 for sintered pads - Delta braking brand I think I got from from Pitlane (was ChCh Cycletreads).
Price varies on Brand and compound ie sintered/ceramic/what ever.
The last fronts I have recorded was December 2009, they were sintered pads (not sure of the brand but not SBS) for $45 for the set of two pads.

[Eddieb]

This guy on Trade me is advertising sets for $24.

Front: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/brakes/auction-400580644.htm

Rear: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/brakes/auction-400623740.htm

Dunno what brand pads they are though.

[Monstaman]

This guy on Trade me is advertising sets for $24.

Front: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/brakes/auction-400580644.htm

Rear: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/brakes/auction-400623740.htm

Dunno what brand pads they are though.

I don't know either but I am using them with good results, got some extra ones to chuck in our spares kit for the trip too. :Punk:

[888]

The trade me ones will be the go; especially with the recommendation. I'm none to impressed with the local bike shops price....UPDATE: I've called up another Suzuki dealership and they gave me two prices: $50 bucks for basic pads (carbon is what he said, I think?) and $87 for sintered which are much higher quality and will bite harder. So it actually looks like my local boys have quoted on the top of the line pads. I am tempted to see what sort of improvement the expensive ones give, especially when the DR is loaded up with all the camping gear.

[Shewolf]

this was waiting for me today ... :woohoo:

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/Bikes/DR650/DSCN1418.jpg

[Eddieb]

this was waiting for me today ... :woohoo:

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/Bikes/DR650/DSCN1418.jpg

Woohoo, have you sat on it yet?

[Shewolf]

hell yeah, ripped it out of the packet, had it farkled on and up the road in about 5 mins flat. It is sweeeeeet
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/Bikes/DR650/DSCN1421.jpg
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af144/Shewolfnz/Bikes/DR650/DSCN1423.jpg

[DR650gary]

Few good deals around at the moment.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-395711494.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/other/auction-399980416.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-387252010.htm

[The Pastor]

I Got me one

[gav24]

Got the procycle TM40 flatslide carb kit last week...
...So good! Feels like a YZF/CRF/KXF 450 on acceleration now:laugh::Punk:
So responsive!
Most of the fitting went super smoothly - even got round to T -ing (pet shop has the parts) off the 3 vent hoses and putting extra breathers up under the seat, and used the old carb vent container for the hose ends - perfect fit!
Only hiccup was the new motion pro throttle cables that come in the kit. Took me ages to get those set so the throttle snapped back well, but also with not too much freeplay in the twistgrip - still not perfect, will keep fiddling... <_<
The new throttle feels a bit stiff as well, not like its binding, but due to the stronger spring I guess, not quite used to it yet. May lube the new cables next to see if that helps, shouldnt need any lube though?
Think I'm gonna take the tank and seat off again and re-fit the cables again to put my mind at rest.
Am I missing a trick here? or am I just limp-wristed? :laugh::laugh:
Even with the (much) stronger spring and (slightly) fiddly new cables, this carb is awesome!

[Eddieb]

May lube the new cables next to see if that helps, shouldnt need any lube though?

Check that the cables can be lubed first, some cables have an inner sleeve that once lubed is stuffed, you may make your issues a lot worse.

[The Pastor]

Check that the cables can be lubed first, some cables have an inner sleeve that once lubed is stuffed, you may make your issues a lot worse.

really? I've always lubed my cables. (not on a dr650, just got one yesterday). I always thought you have to lube cables... you learn new things every day i guess

[Eddieb]

really? I've always lubed my cables. (not on a dr650, just got one yesterday). I always thought you have to lube cables... you learn new things every day i guess

BMW cables you never ever lube. A quick google indicates Motion Pro do their own brand of cable lube so I guess with those you can.

On a related note though I also wouldn't expect brand new cables to require lubing.

[NordieBoy]

I've got some brand new Motion Pro DR650 throttle cables here.

I have a sneaking suspicion they're for a TM40 though as there's no way in hell you can use them with the FCR.

They're also very tight and inflexible...

[86GSXR]

Hi all

I recently got myself a new DR, 2010 model in white. Love it and couldn't be happier with it, except for the seat of course.

5700 kms in 2 1/2 months, a decent percentage of that on gravel. I've fitted a Ventura rack, gp custom bashplate (awesome) and an IMS 18.5 tank arrived and went on on Friday. Next up will be a Scottoiler and heated grips.

Nearly time for the 6K service and tyre change. I'm still on the OEM Bridgestones which have actually been quite impressive onroad but now have nothing left on anything remotely slippery.

Question - I'm keen on any advice on the next tyre. I'm leaning toward something a bit more knobbly but still durable and safe on the road. Anything outstanding on the market atm? Cheers :yes:

[The Pastor]

Hi all

I recently got myself a new DR, 2010 model in white. Love it and couldn't be happier with it, except for the seat of course.

5700 kms in 2 1/2 months, a decent percentage of that on gravel. I've fitted a Ventura rack, gp custom bashplate (awesome) and an IMS 18.5 tank arrived and went on on Friday. Next up will be a Scottoiler and heated grips.

Nearly time for the 6K service and tyre change. I'm still on the OEM Bridgestones which have actually been quite impressive onroad but now have nothing left on anything remotely slippery.

Question - I'm keen on any advice on the next tyre. I'm leaning toward something a bit more knobbly but still durable and safe on the road. Anything outstanding on the market atm? Cheers :yes:

how much was the tank and where did u get it from?

[86GSXR]

how much was the tank and where did u get it from?

Got it here

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/fuel-tanks/auction-400842075.htm

$420 + 19 p&p, easy to fit and looks great!

[NordieBoy]

Question - I'm keen on any advice on the next tyre. I'm leaning toward something a bit more knobbly but still durable and safe on the road. Anything outstanding on the market atm? Cheers :yes:

Shinko 705's :shifty:

[86GSXR]

Shinko 705's :shifty:

Now there's a thought, hearing pretty good things about Shinko's lately :yes: I'll google em and see how they're doing :)

[Eddieb]

Shinko 705's :shifty:

So predictable.

Something round, black, cheap and knobbly, though Nordie really is the the person with his wallet on the pulse on that one.

Otherwise Dunlop 606 get good reviews on the front, Mitas E-07 last a good while on the rear.

[86GSXR]

So predictable.

Something round, black, cheap and knobbly, though Nordie really is the the person with his wallet on the pulse on that one.

Otherwise Dunlop 606 get good reviews on the front, Mitas E-07 last a good while on the rear.

Cheap is good lol, thanks chaps, looks like I have a bit of research to do. I'd better hurry up as I've only got 300 kms left to decide :cool:

[Squiggles]

Am I missing a trick here? or am I just limp-wristed? :laugh::laugh:
Even with the (much) stronger spring and (slightly) fiddly new cables, this carb is awesome!

Mine felt a bit stiff at first but has freed up a fair bit since then, the spring is definitely stronger so takes a bit of getting used to

[gav24]

Mine felt a bit stiff at first but has freed up a fair bit since then, the spring is definitely stronger so takes a bit of getting used to

Just checked my routing and I'm gonna re do that. Did you lube the new cables? They do feel a bit stiff and notchy for brand new - says not to lube on the procycle website...
Better just ride it!:laugh:

[The Pastor]

squigs was telling me of a bash plate made out of a road sign?

[NordieBoy]

squigs was telling me of a bash plate made out of a road sign?

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20070402%20Bash%20Plating/index.html

Rubbish bin screens and road sign bash plates are my speciality.

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20070402%20Bash%20Plating/slides/20070402-184613.jpg

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110204%20No%20Right%20Turn/slides/20110206-145530.jpg

[The Pastor]

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20070402%20Bash%20Plating/index.html

Rubbish bin screens and road sign bash plates are my speciality.

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20070402%20Bash%20Plating/slides/20070402-184613.jpg

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110204%20No%20Right%20Turn/slides/20110206-145530.jpg

nice, what did you use to cut the speed sign? Is a speed sign strong enough?

[NordieBoy]

nice, what did you use to cut the speed sign? Is a speed sign strong enough?

Jigsaw with a wood bit in it.

2.5mm alloy with a plastic skin.

Any rock impacts can be bashed out with a rubber mallet.
It's more for flicked up rock and stone protection than casing out on rocks.
The DR one was held on by zip-ties and the TT one by a bolt at the front and a pair of zip-ties each side at the back. Used it for 2 years before upgrading to a Suzuki then GP Customs one.

[thepom]

quality workmanship mate.....:Punk:

[Eddieb]

Just checked my routing and I'm gonna re do that. Did you lube the new cables? They do feel a bit stiff and notchy for brand new - says not to lube on the procycle website...
Better just ride it!:laugh:

There's exactly this same discussion on the DR650 thread on advrider right now, it sounds like that's just the way the TM40 is.

There is mention that the return spring had 3 tension settings, maybe there's a possibility of adjustment there?

[The Pastor]

sup,

ripped off the snorkel from the Dr, runs really well.

read / got told to raise the needle 1-2mm, so i whipped out the needle.

its an adjustable clip type on the 3rd setting (from top of needle). Is this the stock setting?

I couldn't get the damn clip off so i put a 1mm washer under it. Ran like shit, so took it off.

[NordieBoy]

sup,

ripped off the snorkel from the Dr, runs really well.

read / got told to raise the needle 1-2mm, so i whipped out the needle.

its an adjustable clip type on the 3rd setting (from top of needle). Is this the stock setting?

I couldn't get the damn clip off so i put a 1mm washer under it. Ran like shit, so took it off.

Normally it's snorkel out, raise needle. But not always. It's a CV carb. Constant Variance.

[The Pastor]

Normally it's snorkel out, raise needle. But not always. It's a CV carb. Constant Variance.

do u know what the stock setting is for the carb? I have a feeling its already been raised, as its on setting 3, could be a 4th one (i.e., max height) that's hidden under the washer

[NordieBoy]

do u know what the stock setting is for the carb? I have a feeling its already been raised, as its on setting 3, could be a 4th one (i.e., max height) that's hidden under the washer

3rd is stock.

[gazzerklr]

Great alternative to GSXR exhaust, weighs a couple of kg less than stock
Sounds ten times better, nice deep sound, not too loud. NZ$350 landed.
Made in Italy, bought in England from wemoto.com
245604

[gav24]

There's exactly this same discussion on the DR650 thread on advrider right now, it sounds like that's just the way the TM40 is.

There is mention that the return spring had 3 tension settings, maybe there's a possibility of adjustment there?

Thanks Eddie, havent had time to re-do my routing yet, but will definately have a look at that spring tension setting whilst I'm at it.

[Eddieb]

FCR39 for sale on KB: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141456-Keihin-FCR-MX-39mm-carb

DR cylinder: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141458-DR650-cylinder-2001-model

[The Pastor]

What is the nut size on the front sprocket? Is it reverse thread?

[NordieBoy]

What is the nut size on the front sprocket? Is it reverse thread?

On the DR650?

3 * 8mm head bolts, normal thread.

[Quasievil]

Im thinking about getting out of sportsbikes and back into my adventure riding, Im seriously considering a DR650 this time round, in the first instance what sort of range you guys getting out of a standard tank of gas?

[Eddieb]

Im thinking about getting out of sportsbikes and back into my adventure riding, Im seriously considering a DR650 this time round, in the first instance what sort of range you guys getting out of a standard tank of gas?

~200km to reserve on the stock tank
~300km to reserve on the 18l IMS tank (if your gentle).

[NordieBoy]

~200km to reserve on the stock tank
~300km to reserve on the 18l IMS tank (if your gentle).

I get about 340km to reserve with the IMS. The pumper carb has increased the mileage fractionally.

Gentle is as gentle does.

[Woodman]

I get about 340km to reserve with the IMS. The pumper carb has increased the mileage fractionally.

Gentle is as gentle does.

Also depends on how much time your bike is upside down leaking fuel.:facepalm:

[Eddieb]

I get about 340km to reserve with the IMS. The pumper carb has increased the mileage fractionally.

Gentle is as gentle does.

I'm getting about 320km most tanks, but not many others seem to be getting that sort of mileage.

[Quasievil]

whats an IMS ??

[Eddieb]

~200km to reserve on the stock tank
~300km to reserve on the 18l IMS tank (if your gentle).


whats an IMS ??

It's an 18 litre fuel tank made by IMS.

[Magnum Noel]

I'm getting about 320km most tanks, but not many others seem to be getting that sort of mileage.

I'm getting to about 190klm before reserve or around 21klm per litre.

[bart]

I'm getting about 320km most tanks, but not many others seem to be getting that sort of mileage.

260 (offroad/gravel) to 280 (road) with IMS. :(

[Eddieb]

FCR39 for sale on KB: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141456-Keihin-FCR-MX-39mm-carb

DR cylinder: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141458-DR650-cylinder-2001-model

The FCR has been reduced in price to $220, there's a bargain for someone.

[Squiggles]

I think I could squeeze 340 out of the IMS with a TM40 fitted, used to get a bit more with the CV so I think i'm running a little bit rich <_<

[86GSXR]

whats an IMS ??


It's an 18 litre fuel tank made by IMS.

Sometimes advertised as 18.5 or 4.9 US gals which should be right given 3.785 lts/US gal.

HOWEVER, I ran the tank dry on Sunday 9km from the nearest servo :doh:

By lying the bike on its side I managed to transfer enough gas from the other side of the tank to get another 7 kms at 100kph on a flat road. That only left me 2kms to push it (good exercise).

When I filled up from zero it took 17.58 lts! Hmmmm. I read that you can fill it with hot water which gives it another litre or so, might get brave enough to try that one day, maybe summer might help expand it.


260 (offroad/gravel) to 280 (road) with IMS. :(

I got 304 with about 1.5 lts left. When I ran it dry though I'd only managed 280. This was because of the high speed 50km run I'd given it the day before. Seem to be getting 17km/lt road and 19 on the gravel but haven't given it the berries offroad yet..........

[Monstaman]

I read that you can fill it with hot water which gives it another litre or so, might get brave enough to try that one day, maybe summer might help expand it.

I didn't hot water mine but it has spent some time in the sun, tie off the cap tub or block it off, leave half a tank of fuel in and let the sun expand it, I can fit 20 L in mine now :woohoo: , tried at a few different place now and it is correct.

[86GSXR]

I didn't hot water mine but it has spent some time in the sun, tie off the cap tub or block it off, leave half a tank of fuel in and let the sun expand it, I can fit 20 L in mine now :woohoo: , tried at a few different place now and it is correct.

Awesome! Very pleased to hear that, thanks! Bring on summer :yes:

[JATZ]

I'm getting about 320km .


I'm getting to about 190klm before reserve .


260 (offroad/gravel) to 280 (road) with IMS. :(


I think I could squeeze 340 out of the IMS

Bwahahahaha......Pussys :2guns:
I got 512 to empty last time I ran out....and thats with twin carbs :shutup:

[The Pastor]

how much do you have to grind off the sprocket holding plate when going down to a 14 tooth?

[NordieBoy]

how much do you have to grind off the sprocket holding plate when going down to a 14 tooth?

Lots.

I just took it down 'till it was well clear of the sprocket.

All you need is a triangle with the screws as the points...

eg. Procycle's one...
http://www.procycle.us/images/bikepages/dr650/retainer-dr.jpg

[bart]

how much do you have to grind off the sprocket holding plate when going down to a 14 tooth?

I didn't bother originally.

My latest elcheapo chain seems wider/chunkier than standard, so I hacked off a couple of mm recently with the grinder. It wore little notches, so used that as a guide. :laugh:

[XF650]

how much do you have to grind off the sprocket holding plate when going down to a 14 tooth?

or use a circlip - a search should find the discussion on that option.

[NordieBoy]

or use a circlip - a search should find the discussion on that option.

I've been using the same pair of circlips for 2 years now...

[The Pastor]

or use a circlip - a search should find the discussion on that option.


I've been using the same pair of circlips for 2 years now...



But that would mean no bolts holding the sprocket on :S just seems so wrong.

totally going to do it :D :Punk:

[The Pastor]

I didn't bother originally.

My latest elcheapo chain seems wider/chunkier than standard, so I hacked off a couple of mm recently with the grinder. It wore little notches, so used that as a guide. :laugh:

yeah i didnt do it either, but i can see where its wearing on the chain lol

[The Pastor]

Lots.

I just took it down 'till it was well clear of the sprocket.

All you need is a triangle with the screws as the points...

eg. Procycle's one...
http://www.procycle.us/images/bikepages/dr650/retainer-dr.jpg

cheers that picture helps heaps

[The Pastor]

ordered a couple of circlips from saeco, $3.00.

regarding the sprocket cover, one guy reckons to removed it, I'd be kinda tempted to do this, is it a wof issue? Will my pant leg get caught in it? Might get grease on my jeans, but Im not worried about that!

[Eddieb]

ordered a couple of circlips from saeco, $3.00.

regarding the sprocket cover, one guy reckons to removed it, I'd be kinda tempted to do this, is it a wof issue? Will my pant leg get caught in it? Might get grease on my jeans, but Im not worried about that!

If you ride in mud a huge amount of crud gets stuck up behind that cover, I dunno whether removing it would made that any better or worse.

[NordieBoy]

ordered a couple of circlips from saeco, $3.00.

regarding the sprocket cover, one guy reckons to removed it, I'd be kinda tempted to do this, is it a wof issue? Will my pant leg get caught in it? Might get grease on my jeans, but Im not worried about that!
Trim it. then you can at least see the condition of the toofs.
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20071026%20Chain%20and%20Sprockets%20etc/slides/20071027-155636-000002.jpg

[The Pastor]

Trim it. then you can at least see the condition of the toofs.
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20071026%20Chain%20and%20Sprockets%20etc/slides/20071027-155636-000002.jpg

hey thats cool

[ducatijim]

ordered a couple of circlips from saeco, $3.00.

regarding the sprocket cover, one guy reckons to removed it, I'd be kinda tempted to do this, is it a wof issue? Will my pant leg get caught in it? Might get grease on my jeans, but Im not worried about that!

Yeah, remove sprocket cover and use 2 circlips, you will never look back!

[The Pastor]

just cut my sprocket cover, should of made it rounded like the photo but cut it square, oh well still looks primo :)

[Eddieb]

just cut my sprocket cover, should of made it rounded like the photo but cut it square, oh well still looks primo :)

Well post a pic.

[The Pastor]

Well post a pic.

ok so it doesnt look THAT good :P

[NordieBoy]

just cut my sprocket cover, should of made it rounded like the photo but cut it square, oh well still looks primo :)

I'm going to cut out the ovals as well just to make it look more blingy...

[The Pastor]

I'm going to cut out the ovals as well just to make it look more blingy...

then get it chromed ;)

[NordieBoy]

then get it chromed ;)

The bolts are already chrome.

Some flames however...

[Pikey]

Tried the search for circlip :confused: but didn't have any luck?
Can someone please enlighten me to the size that's needed :sherlock:

[NordieBoy]

Tried the search for circlip :confused: but didn't have any luck?
Can someone please enlighten me to the size that's needed :sherlock:

22mm I seem to recall.
I use a pair to fill the gap.