Waving - the neverending saga (multiple threads merged into one)

[Drum]

Motu, come back. This ones for you!

Edit: Don't mean to laugh at ya there mate, but this is a bit of an inside joke. The 'nod or wave' threads are a bit of a sore point!

[carbacca]

i got a nod the first time i went riding

really helped my confidence

[McJim]

Deja Vu?

Welcome to KB dude.

Waving threads have been done to death - seriously.

Don't be offended but be prepared to field some abuse for not searching the topic first.

(edit) Is it just me or is that 2 waving threads in one night? Must be the phase of the moon or summat.:rofl:

[zeocen]

I dare not take my hands off my handlebars!
How will I stay up otherwise !?

[BigRed2007]

The more the better :P

[BigRed2007]

i got a nod the first time i went riding

really helped my confidence

exactly :P

[peasea]

As I have said before in other waving threads... I wave or nod at everyone... cruisers, sporty types, little kids if they are waving... even shock/horror scooterers if I see them. :scooter:

Word of the day, "scooterers". Love it.

Some kids are cute huh? They see a bike and can't help themselves. A wave costs nothing.

[Lissa]

Word of the day, "scooterers". Love it.

Some kids are cute huh? They see a bike and can't help themselves. A wave costs nothing.
Kids are the best, they love it.... my kids get excited if someone on a bike waves at them... and its not me. :yes:

[zeocen]

Don't worry about it mate, it's suprising no one's waved to you but I rarely get waves from cruisers, even though I wave at them.. You'll find after riding a bit more that a good population wave/nod/toot.

It doesn't matter, soon you'll be doing rides with KB, and riding with bikers is far more satisfying than waving at ones going the opposite direction!

[BigRed2007]

Suggestion for the mods

Pin a topic about nods, waves and wink in the noobie forums

So we all know since we are noobies

[kiwifruit]

yep, kids love it....

"woooow, cool mooootobike Mr!"
"can you do a wheelieee?"

*why yes, yes i can*

"hey, the motorbike man is gonna do a wheeeeelieeeee!!!!"

:sunny:

[BigRed2007]

^^^^

very true bro

So the KB wave is the right hand wave??? or is there an actual thread for kb ?

[Drum]

Better off keeping that right hand where it is. Nod or left hand is better.

Welcome to the site, by the way.

[BigRed2007]

WOOO i found the thread

NOD FOR LIFE K ?

BIG RED out

[BigRed2007]

lol yeah i just realised right hand is for throttle lol

thanks drum bro

[TerminalAddict]

I'd like to post a retraction about my earlier post tonight suggesting the KB wave is with the right hand...

that's the hand that holds my cigarette .. its busy .. so I wave with my left hand

[Steelhorse]

I find i wave/nod most riders but may be less toward the end of the ride depending on the feed back i have had that day

[Donor]

I'd like to post a retraction about my earlier post tonight suggesting the KB wave is with the right hand...

that's the hand that holds my cigarette .. its busy .. so I wave with my left hand

Don't be silly...

...your left is busy texting, isn't it?

[Squiggles]

you can buy kb patches, i've got one on my other jacket but not on my new one

[riffer]

Damn I still dont know what lane splitting means... shall I pm McJim??? :mellow:


Damn. I could get you on the back of the RF and show you if you like.

Ask Colapop. He really enjoyed being pillioned while lanesplitting on the back...






except the bit where his knees banged against a car. :shutup:

[Theatre]

I always use my right hand to wave, on a 2 stroke theres hardly any engine braking and you want the left hand where it is incase something goes wrong :lol:

[peasea]

yep, kids love it....

"woooow, cool mooootobike Mr!"
"can you do a wheelieee?"

*why yes, yes i can*

"hey, the motorbike man is gonna do a wheeeeelieeeee!!!!"

:sunny:

Well, when it comes to the 'wheelie' question I just have to point to the sticker on the tank and say "it's not how fast you go, it's how cool you look".

Kids buy it every time, shame about the adults tho.........

I don't care, mock me if you will, I still love my bike, a 17 y/o HD. I do heaps of k's on it and I've got heaps of appointments tomorrow, to which I'm gonna ride.

Life is good.

[Matt_TG]

I think this fits better in here than the sticky mega waving post, sorry if it's a repost::shit:

This has had me in giggles for a while... :yes:

Top Ten Reasons Why Harley Riders Don't Wave Back

10. Afraid it will invalidate warranty.
9. Leather and studs make it too heavy to raise arm.
8. Refuse to wave to anyone whose bike is already paid for.
7. Afraid to let go of handlebars because they might vibrate off.
6. Rushing wind would blow scabs off the new tattoos.
5. Angry because just took out second mortgage to pay luxury tax on
new Harley.
4. Just discovered the fine print in owner's manual and realized H-D
is partially owned by Honda.
3. Can't tell if other riders are waving or just reaching to cover
their ears like everyone else.
2. Remembers the last time a Harley rider waved back, he impaled his
hand on spiked helmet.
1. They're too tired from spending hours polishing all that chrome to
lift their arms.


Top Ten Reasons Why Gold Wing Riders Don't Wave Back

10. Wasn't sure whether other rider was waving or making an obscene
gesture.
9. Afraid might get frostbite if hand is removed from heated grip.
8. Has arthritis and the past 400 miles have made it difficult to
raise arm.
7. Reflection from etched windshield momentarily blinded him.
6. The espresso machine just finished.
5. Was actually asleep when other rider waved.
4. Was in a three-way conference call with stockbroker and accessories
dealer.
3. Was distracted by odd shaped blip on radar screen.
2. Was simultaneously adjusting the air suspension, seat height,
programmable CD player, seat temperature and satellite navigation system.
1. Couldn't find the "auto wave back" button on dashboard.


Top 10 Reasons Sport Bike Riders Don't Wave:

10. They have not been riding long enough to know they're supposed to.
9. They're going too fast to have time enough to register the movement
and respond.
8. You weren't wearing bright enough gear.
7. If they stick their arm out going that fast they'll rip it out of
the socket.
6. They're too occupied with trying to get rid of their chicken strips.
5. They look way too cool with both hands on the bars or they don't
want to unbalance themselves while standing on the tank.
4. Their skin tight-Kevlar-ballistic-nylon-kangaroo-leather suits
prevent any position other than fetal.
3. Raising an arm allows bugs into the armholes of their tank tops.
2. Its too hard to do one-handed stoppies.
1. They were too busy slipping their flip-flop back on.


Top Ten Reasons Why BMW Riders Don't Wave Back

10. New Aerostich suit too stiff to raise arm.
9. Removing a hand from the bars is considered "bad form."
8. Your bike isn't weird enough looking to justify acknowledgement.
7. Too sore from an 800-mile day on a stock "comfort" seat.
6. Too busy programming the GPS, monitoring radar, listening to ipod,
XM, or talking on the cell phone.
5. He's an Iron Butt rider and you're not!
4. Wires from Gerbings is too short.
3. You're not riding the "right kind" of BMW.
2. You haven't been properly introduced.
1. Afraid it will be misinterpreted as a friendly gesture.

[BigRed2007]

add me on msn guys and talk with me on there lol i wanna know where u get KB patches from :O

Will be cool :P

[smoky]

you can buy kb patches, i've got one on my other jacket but not on my new one

Where do get them from? do they sell them at the same place as nicoteen patches? I'm desperate to try anything to break the kb habit.

[TerminalAddict]

patches are for wusses :nya:

[BigRed2007]

lol at the nicoteen patches lol

[BigRed2007]

Man cant wait till after exams and we can catch up with all the kb riders!!!!

[Cr1MiNaL]

So the KB wave is the right hand wave???

Lol wtf bro ! just keep ur hands on the bars! do a search on this topic int he search bar up top....thye usually dont like it when the forums are clogged with issues that have already been discussed.... on that note u might want to try starting one on lane splitting id love to c the feedback ;)

PS: ur not that dude who met me outside da warehouse n asked me all those questions aye?

Cheers Raj.

[ZeroIndex]

I think this fits better in here than the sticky mega waving post, sorry if it's a repost::shit:

This has had me in giggles for a while... :yes:

Top Ten Reasons Why Harley Riders Don't Wave Back

Top Ten Reasons Why Gold Wing Riders Don't Wave Back

Top 10 Reasons Sport Bike Riders Don't Wave:

Top Ten Reasons Why BMW Riders Don't Wave Back


You're lucky this is well into a thread, and not starting a new one otherwise I would say:
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Bwahahaha :yes: *evil grin*

[shcabbeh]

There go my corneas...

[howdamnhard]

Ha,ha very funny,wish I could copy it .I've noticed cruiser riders hardly ever wave back,thats why I won't get a cruiser for my next bike.

[ZeroIndex]

Ha,ha very funny,wish I could copy it .I've noticed cruiser riders hardly ever wave back,thats why I won't get a cruiser for my next bike.

YES!!!!!! We saved another soul before it is too late :)

[ZeroIndex]

There go my corneas...

haha on my 37" monitor, I just realized that when I have that extremely red post covering my entire screen, the lighting in the room actually changes to a red-ish color, so i apologize for your corneas, accept some green rep :p

[NighthawkNZ]

REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST REPOST
Bwahahaha :yes: *evil grin*

errr so is that... BIGGER EVIL GRIN Bwahahaha

[Matt_TG]

Arrrrgggh I've been burnt by the Repost police with the big (but not flashing) red lights!!!!

Hehehe.

Worth it though :P

[MVnut]

Well I wave & like it when others wave. Never had a wave from a Hardly Dangerous tho, mind you, only done a couple of million ks so there's plenty of time yet. I've even been out riding & spotted a mate on a HD & he didn't even wave. It's probably just me

[BigRed2007]

Raj I cant remember

But yeah cant wait to meet up with KB riders

[007XX]

[QUOTE=BigRed2007;1078369]lol yeah i just realised right hand is for throttle lol

Sorry mate, but that was very sweet. Don't think I've had a blond moment like that in a while:innocent:

[Dooly]

Found this on another forum I belong to.

Top Ten Reasons Why Harley Riders Don't Wave Back

10. Afraid it will invalidate warranty.
9. Leather and studs make it too heavy to raise arm.
8. Refuse to wave to anyone whose bike is already paid for.
7. Afraid to let go of handlebars because they might vibrate off.
6. Rushing wind would blow scabs off the new tattoos.
5. Angry because just took out second mortgage to pay luxury tax on new Harley.
4. Just discovered the fine print in owner's manual and realized H-D is partially owned by Honda.
3. Can't tell if other riders are waving or just reaching to cover their ears like everyone else.
2. Remembers the last time a Harley rider waved back, he impaled his hand on spiked helmet.
1. They're too tired from spending hours polishing all that chrome to lift their arms.


Top Ten Reasons Why Gold Wing Riders Don't Wave Back

10. Wasn't sure whether other rider was waving or making an obscene gesture.
9. Afraid might get frostbite if hand is removed from heated grip.
8. Has arthritis and the past 400 miles have made it difficult to raise arm.
7. Reflection from etched windshield momentarily blinded him.
6. The espresso machine just finished.
5. Was actually asleep when other rider waved.
4. Was in a three-way conference call with stockbroker and accessories dealer.
3. Was distracted by odd shaped blip on radar screen.
2. Was simultaneously adjusting the air suspension, seat height,
programmable CD player, seat temperature and satellite navigation system.
1. Couldn't find the "auto wave back" button on dashboard.


Top 10 Reasons Sportbikers Don't Wave:

10. They have not been riding long enough to know they're supposed to.
9. They're going too fast to have time enough to register the movement and respond.
8. You weren't wearing bright enough gear.
7. If they stick their arm out going that fast they'll rip it out of the socket.
6. They're too occupied with trying to get rid of their chicken strips.
5. They look way too cool with both hands on the bars or they don't want to unbalance themselves while standing on the tank.
4. Their skin tight-kevlar-ballistic-nylon-kangaroo-leather suits prevent any position other than fetal.
3. Raising an arm allows bugs into the armholes of their tank tops.
2. It's too hard to do one-handed stoppies.
1. They were too busy slipping their flip-flop back on.


Top Ten Reasons Why BMW Riders Don't Wave Back

10. New Aerostich suit too stiff to raise arm.
9. Removing a hand from the bars is considered "bad form."
8. Your bike isn't weird enough looking to justify acknowledgement.
7. Too sore from an 800-mile day on a stock "comfort" seat.
6. Too busy programming the GPS, monitoring radar, listening to ipod, XM, or talking on the cell phone.
5. He's an Iron Butt rider and you're not!.
4. Wires from Gerbings is too short.
3. You're not riding the "right kind" of BMW.
2. You haven't been properly introduced.
1. Afraid it will be misinterpreted as a friendly gesture.

And Finally...

Top Ten reasons Metric Cruiser Riders don't wave back

10. New leather jacket was purchased at the same size as suit jacket.
9. Didn't know that the bike wouldn't fly off the road if left hand was removed.
8. Was looking at the handle bars wondering what accessory could mount where.
7. Was wildly grasping at some valve under seat. (3.7 gals BAH!)
6. Rider was actually pulling up black socks and pulling down on jeans trying to close a few air gaps.
5. Rider was too caught up in reciting his mantra 'Left hand clutch' 'Right hand Gas AND Front brake' 'Left foot Gears' 'Right foot Rear brake' 'And for Gods sake Both feet down at light'.
4. Waved after you went by. You just thought they didn't wave.
3. Was searching GPS to find local Bike wash.
2. Rider wasn't really waving, was doing wind airfoil test with hand and arm.
1. Rider was involved in trying to get new throttle stop to STOP.

[Insanity_rules]

Hey wouldn't it be funny at the next KB ride to get a riding mexican wave going?

[peasea]

I mainly go for the nod over the wave. Found the same thing as most.....Harley riders almost never respond. Stuff 'em.

Bullshit, we respond all the time.

[TerminalAddict]

waving goodbye with your butt cracks doesn't count :nya:

[Warr]

Found this on another forum I belong to.

Top Ten Reasons Why xxxxxxxx Don't Wave Back


Great post. Bling for you.

Now my only wish is that the thread could be closed :yawn:

[SwanTiger]

I don't like weirdo's who dig up threads of by gone.

[BigRed2007]

yeah I nod or wave if i cant

[FkNAmerican]

I try to wave. Its just part of the tradition of being on a motorcycle. To me its a sign of respect and acknowledgment to other bikers out there. Its basically saying "hey, good on ya mate.....be safe out there" all in one simple hand gesture.

To restate the case, waving is simply a small part of what makes motorcycling such a great thing in general. Its an acknowledgment of the community spirit and comaraderie that goes hand in hand with getting on a bike.

Case in point: I've broken down in my car before out in the middle of nowhere. About 500 cars passed me by before somebody stopped to offer a hand. Ounce I went out riding on a Sunday and misjudged my petrol levels and the engine started to shut off so I stopped to check it out and then switched to my reserve ounce I made sure it was my petrol level andn ot something else. First bikers to come by stopped to offer a hand. They were total strangers. You just dont get that with much else.

Case #2: I was just up on the Blue Ridge last weekend and stopped at a particular lookout with a great view of the mountains. There were about 5 or 6 bikers stopped there doing the same thing. All of them were from way up north and were cruising down to a big bike meet down in Florida. A couple were looking for a place to eat and stay in the local town (Boone, NC) and I ended up suggesting a great vegetarian restaurant and a decent motel. They ended up inviting me to eat with them and we had a great time just chatting about life up north (Im from New York originally). In all my travels by car on the parkway I've never just met up with strangers like that and ended up having dinner with them. It just doesnt happen in a car. Only on bikes my friends.

So thats why I wave. Its part of that whole spirit of biking. Sounds lame I know.....but its true. And as long as Im on a motorcycle I will always wave when its safe to do so......always. Those who dont wave back just dont get it. Its their loss anyway.

[dmouse]

ok i ride a harley i wave at all bikers no that dont include them womens whizzer hairdryer things, and to be honest most bikers dont wave back some nod and thats ok, but we users on KB have to have a wave of our own maybe a salute or touch ya helmet like the knights of old did anyone got any ideas on this it would be nice to see fellow KB`ers on the road and at least know there a KiwiBiker what you all think !!!!!

i was going to put it too a vote if its a good idea maybe KB staff could start it off ?.

[SpankMe]

Already decided upon.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=789973#post789973

[riffer]

Ah ... the shocker.

How did I know that was coming?

[dmouse]

ok i will learn to use the search next time just going to extract my foot from my mouth :spanking:

[HTFU]

This has been discussed on previous posts. From memory general comments along the lines of, oh no not another waving thread, just wave if you want to wave, don't be offended if they don't reply and it is too hard to have a specific KB wave etc. There were a couple of ideas for a wave but they got slammed by many.

I remember in the early 80s dad waving to quite a few cars on our journeys especially to the drivers of the 1950s holdens like ours. Ahh the good old pre crips days.

I quite enjoy turning on my right blinker when a truck comes past especially if I am following a truck who has just blinked his fellow trucker. I wave to bikes if I see them in time (or nod if going around a corner). I just love seeing others out riding, warms the cockles of my heart.

[breakaway]

I got one for ya right here: <img src="http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4844/birdiesse0.gif"/>

[Toaster]

How about jousting sticks... just to really spice things up a bit on the motorway.

[Drum]

So we're not doing the Hitler salute anymore? Well don't I feel stupid.

[stify]

fark have i been here that long

[skidMark]

When I was younger, when walking around town at night I would correct the "West side" tagging with "no, actually this is the southeast side of this building" or whatever side it was.
I must have corrected a hundred or so, and the local west-side youths began threatening me with death. They never found out who I was though. Well, it was fun at the time.


man, that explains so so much.

[idb]

So...are we all agreed then?

[Mikkel]

Well, I guess we are... noone in their right mind can blame HD riders for their reluctance towards taking their paws off the handlebars...

[EJK]

I wave...

.... sometimes with my both hands up in the air...

.... but that happens normally outside the city area :) ....

... or also when I am on a very good mood :D

Edit: Oh, I've been thinking.... How about a high five? (Ofcourse at slow speeds lol)

[Mikkel]

Edit: Oh, I've been thinking.... How about a high five? (Ofcourse at slow speeds lol)

Good idea, IF we were somewhere where we drove on the right side of the road as opposed to the wrong...

[AndyGinNz]

I'm new to this site and have a question.This one has been puzzling me for a while.

Generally I wave to other bikers. Should one wave to bikers who wear gang colours?

Hopefully that's not the [biking] world's daftest question.

Cheers, Andy

[jrandom]

Never hurts to be friendly eh.

;)

[The Stranger]

Should one wave to bikers who wear gang colours?


Not a silly question at all.
It is generally best though if you wave with one finger pointing up.

[NighthawkNZ]

I'm new to this site and have a question.This one has been puzzling me for a while.

Generally I wave to other bikers. Should one wave to bikers who wear gang colours?

Hopefully that's not the [biking] world's daftest question.

Cheers, Andy

I usually wave or nod to all bikers

Big thread to read here
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=37236

And I have had a wave back from a biker wearing gang colours...

[crashe]

I'm new to this site and have a question.This one has been puzzling me for a while.

Generally I wave to other bikers. Should one wave to bikers who wear gang colours?

Hopefully that's not the [biking] world's daftest question.

Cheers, Andy

Welcome to KB............


I wave or nod to all bikers out on the roads......
It is then up to them whether they wave or nod back.

Whether they be in a gang or not, they are still bikers.

Heck I even wandered over to a few (about 8 of them) the other day in Wellsford (north of Auckland) to let them know about road works down SH16 should they be going that way. They thanked me and smiled. They were appreciative of the info. We chatted about where the police were out on the roads as well.

I have waved to many gang members out there riding, some wave back some don't. No biggie.

Heck you never know, one day your bike may break down or you may have a accident out there on the roads, and they will stop to help you out.

The one thing that we have in common is that we all ride bikes.

[MSTRS]

Better to wave to all or none. As motorcyclists, we all face the same issues out there, so why differentiate??

[007XX]

Yep, what Jrandom said...:yes:

Some riders don't bother and I think that's pretty rude, but then again who cares?...if they want to be grumpy, then that's their problem.

I say hi and enjoy my ride...:2thumbsup :sunny:

[jrandom]

Heck you never know, one day your bike may break down or you may have a accident out there on the roads, and they will stop to help you out.

Those scum-sucking patched-up bottom feeders can eat my shit. I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

Help with a breakdown is why I have AA membership.

In all seriousness, I would never wave to any of them, particularly not the 'ethnic' gangs, Tribesmen and the like. They're cowardly predators, every last one.

Get some perspective on just who it is you're being so sweet and friendly to.

[Blue Velvet]

Housesitting next door to the Mongrel Mob has ensured my bike has not been stolen. Wave to everyone.

N.B. I didn't know they were there before I started housesitting... And they're friendlier than the scatty cage driving monster who lives upstairs. But then they're older, not young patched bandana wearing freaks.

[jrandom]

Housesitting next door to the Mongrel Mob has ensured my bike has not been stolen. Wave to everyone.

They're filth.

No point intentionally antagonising them, but I don't believe in pretending to be the friend of those animals.

[Blue Velvet]

They're filth.

No point intentionally antagonising them, but I don't believe in pretending to be the friend of those animals.

I've met lots of disappointing people lately, both in and outside of the biker communi-tay. There are scum who wear patches and there are scum that don't.

Waving doesn't make me anyone's friend, nor does it mean I'm pretending to be their friend.

[Headbanger]

Uh, To qualify for the patch you have to be scum.

Make no mistake.

And even those that shy away from the violence are masters at using and burning people.

Watched from the fringes for many years.

[jrandom]

Waving doesn't make me anyone's friend...

That's bullshit; of course it does. It's a friendly gesture.

Open your eyes. The men you are waving so happily at would rape you and steal everything you own without a second thought if it was convenient to them.

[LilSel]

I personally dont... *shrugs*... each to their own I guess tho...

[LilSel]

Open your eyes. The men you are waving so happily at would rape you and steal everything you own without a second thought if it was convenient to them.

well said!... :niceone:

[Blue Velvet]

That's bullshit; of course it does. It's a friendly gesture.

Open your eyes. The men you are waving so happily at would rape you and steal everything you own without a second thought if it was convenient to them.

My eyes are very open you condescending prat. Plenty of non-patched men would also do as you've stated above.

Regardless of the patch, the people living next door have been great neighbours, more so than the non-patch wearing cage driving monster living upstairs from me who knocked my bike over.

And a patch doesn't have to say 'mongrel mob' to be a patch.

Yes waving is a friendly gesture, but only a gesture. It's not a commitment to being someone’s friend, nor acceptance of someone’s fucked up behaviour should they be that way inclined. I've probably waved to plenty of non-patched bikers who are scum.

[Finn]

I don't wave to people on lesser bikes than my own. I also don't give to charity. I mean, what's in it for me?

[jrandom]

My eyes are very open you condescending prat. Plenty of non-patched men would also do as you've stated above.

A vanishing minority of non-patched men would do as I stated. Maybe one in a thousand? One in ten thousand?

Every patched member of the Mongrel Mob, however, has almost certainly done such things.


Regardless of the patch, the people living next door have been great neighbours...

So you're fine with people who murder, rape, lie and steal, so long as they don't do it to you?

I'm not condescending - I just think you're an idiot.

[James Deuce]

One day I'm going to buy a BMW just so I can give other BMW riders the finger, because they only seem to wave at each other. You can see the sniffy buggers stick their nose in the air when you wave at them from a lowly Suzuki or Kawasaki because they all ride round with their fliptop helmets open.

[Blue Velvet]

A vanishing minority of non-patched men would do as I stated. Maybe one in a thousand? One in ten thousand?

Every patched member of the Mongrel Mob, however, has almost certainly done such things.

ALMOST certainly.


So you're fine with people who murder, rape, lie and steal, so long as they don't do it to you?

Now you're twisting things that haven't been said and making assumptions. And you've missed what I typed previously, when I said that anyone can do those things.

Please don't assume that I condone anyone's behaviour. My posts have not implied that. I've merely stated that I wave to all bikers and that my neighbours have been good. The guy next door just happens to wear a patch. I'm not saying I think the mongrel mob are awesome, so back off.

The guy wearing branded bike leathers that I waved to yesterday could be a rapist or wife beater or the chick in the pink helmet might have put her kid in hospital cos he wouldn't eat his dinner. Who the fuck am I to judge someone based on misinformation?

And why are you so bitter anyway? Get broomsticked by the mob in prison or something?


...I just think you're an idiot.

Ditto. When you can learn to not pre-judge people (i.e. me), then maybe you won't be such a miserable bastard.

[jrandom]

ALMOST certainly.

You wave to people who are 'almost certainly' murderers, rapists, liars and thieves, and are happy to have them as your neighbours?


... anyone can do those things.

Utterly fallacious. Anyone can, but very few do.


The guy wearing branded bike leathers that I waved to yesterday could be a rapist or wife beater or the chick in the pink helmet might have put her kid in hospital cos he wouldn't eat his dinner.

Gimme a break. The likelihood that your average person on the street is a violent criminal is tiny. Don't justify your ambivalence toward and acceptance of patched gang members by trying to claim that they're not the only scumbags in the world. How on earth does that make anything better?


Who the fuck am I to judge someone based on misinformation?

The gang patch isn't misinformation; it's a clear statement telling the rest of society to be afraid.


Get broomsticked by the mob in prison or something?

Not personally, but I know a few folk who've been hurt pretty bad by that sort. Perhaps if you did too, you'd change your tune.


When you can learn to not pre-judge people (i.e. me), then maybe you won't be such a miserable bastard.

When you can learn not to talk with your head up your arse, then maybe you won't be such a naive nincompoop.

[Blue Velvet]

...Don't justify your ambivalence toward and acceptance of patched gang members...

Again, you're twisting words. This is not what I've said, YOU are assuming this and typing crap to provoke. Good on ya, I've got all day. No wait, I have to go pick up my bike soon so make it quick eh?

I consider my neighbour a person before I consider the patch. That is not acceptance of patched gang members. Get your fucking facts right and go crawl up your moral arsehole, ooops I mean highground.

[idb]

Are you two married?

[Blue Velvet]

Are you two married?

No, thank fuck. :niceone:

[Tank]

The upshot is that all gang members are scum - they have to be in order to join the other filth.

They don't deserve the acknowledgement of a wave.

Ever wonder how so many of them (who generally dont have a job) can afford to ride that expensive Harley? Drugs, stand over, theft - but "Hey" give them a wave coz its all OK. They choose to live outside of society - leave them there.

And the reason that your neighbour is all OK? Generally they dont shit where they sleep. They go elsewhere make the lives of others miserable.

It may be OK for you now - but Im sure the families who have been the unfortunate victims having bullets thru their window simply because they live next to a patched gang member thought it was 'all good' as well.

I hope that it never happens to you.

[jrandom]

I consider my neighbour a person before I consider the patch.

I consider people based on what I know about them, and when they wear a sign saying "I'm scum", I treat them accordingly.


That is not acceptance of patched gang members. Get your fucking facts right...

Waving to them when you see them on the road and being happy about living next to them doesn't constitute 'acceptance'?


... go crawl up your moral arsehole, ooops I mean highground.

Give it a few hours, let yourself fizz down. You fucked up by admitting that you deal with patched MMM guys as though they're regular human beings, and now you're in a tizzy because I called you on it.

They're not regular human beings, that's all there is to it.

[Finn]

I have to side with Jrandom here. Patched members are scum and would you believe our loverly leader is now funding them for programs targeting youth... while they are still members? They are laughing all the way to the bank.

However, I do have an "acquaintance" that is a patched member of one of the nasties that I have used once when the legal system let me down. I got all my money plus interest and they cost much less than a lawyer.

[Blue Velvet]

I consider people based on what I know about them.

Ditto.


Waving to them when you see them on the road and being happy about living next to them doesn't constitute 'acceptance'?

Not unless you're Freud.


Give it a few hours, let yourself fizz down. You fucked up by admitting that you deal with patched MMM guys as though they're regular human beings, and now you're in a tizzy because I called you on it.

No tizzy. Enjoying a debate with someone who seems to be very narrow minded and unaccepting of differing points of view. I must say, it's a tad sad that you've taken some things I've said out of context but oh well. As I said. I've got all day.


They're not regular human beings, that's all there is to it.

I never said that. I said that there are many disappointing people both in and outside of the biker community. You have misconstrued this all to mean that I condone rape and murder and broomsticking. So uh maybe you should take a step back and stop reading things that aren't there?

Just a thought.

[Tank]

I consider my neighbour a person before I consider the patch.

So using that logic - Out late at night by yourself and break down.

A group of patched gang members come out of a house, they see you and start approaching. Are you saying you would not feel any more apprehension then if it was any other group of 'normal' people?

Im sure that you couldn't - and that's because you know they are scum and sadly, yes, people should be afraid of them.

You are simply presenting a pathetic argument to be bloody minded.

[Blue Velvet]

Waving to them when you see them on the road and being happy about living next to them doesn't constitute 'acceptance'

Perhaps waving means different things to different people. My waving does not mean acceptance of patched gang members. Nor does it mean I'm anyone's friend. I'm acknowledging a biker. My neighbours are who they are. They live there and I live there. End of story. The only thing I've said is they have been more pleasant than the fat cage driving monster upstairs. That is not saying I condone whatever the hell they get up to. So your righteousness is not justified.

Also, I never said I was happy about living next door to the patched people. Throughout your messages you have accused me of accepting their behaviour and judged me because of how YOU have interpreted my posts. The written word can be misconstrued, as from some of your older posts I'm sure you're aware.

Don't judge me because of what you have inserted between the lines.

[Blue Velvet]

...to be bloody minded.

Perhaps it is you who is doing this?

The things I am being accused of have not been said so I'm standing up for myself. Simple.

[Tank]

Nope - Im only been here for a couple of post having read the last few pages. I havnt had the chance to be bloody minded yet.

I was questioning your comments about them being treated as people first patched members second.


So using that logic - Out late at night by yourself and break down.

A group of patched gang members come out of a house, they see you and start approaching. Are you saying you would not feel any more apprehension then if it was any other group of 'normal' people?

Im sure that you couldn't - and that's because you know they are scum and sadly, yes, people should be afraid of them.

You didnt answer - and I would be interested.

If you are more apprehensive - it shows that you know they are generally trouble and that you do indeed judge them for the patch before what they are like as a person.

If you dont - well (and very sadly) - Im guessing that you have the ability to be a victim in the making.

[jrandom]

The things I am being accused of have not been said so I'm standing up for myself. Simple.

Your antagonistic response makes it sound as though you're simply being stubborn, rather than that you're trying to clarify your position and make it clear that you do not, in fact, approve of gang members in any way.

If you're happy to agree that they are, in fact, scum, then I'm sure we have nothing further to argue about.

Getting upset and attacking someone who takes issue with your statements is not "standing up for yourself"; it's just letting your annoyance get in the way of a clear agreement on something that we should all share the same view on.

[Blue Velvet]

Your antagonistic response makes it sound as though you're simply being stubborn, rather than that you're trying to clarify your position and make it clear that you do not, in fact, approve of gang members in any way.

If you're happy to agree that they are, in fact, scum, then I'm sure we have nothing further to argue about.

Getting upset and attacking someone who takes issue with your statements is not "standing up for yourself"; it's just letting your annoyance get in the way of a clear agreement on something that we should all share the same view on.

See that's just it though. I found YOUR response very antagonistic. And I wasn't getting upset. I'm debating in an online internet forum. I get upset when something happens to my bikes. I don't get upset shooting the shit online, so stop telling me what I am and what I'm not. Stop telling me I approve of and condone stuff I don't. Just accept I have different views on waving. To me it appears you find it a very friendly, accepting gesture. I don't. The issue re patched gang members got taken out of context.

[Blue Velvet]

If you are more apprehensive - it shows that you know they are generally trouble and that you do indeed judge them for the patch before what they are like as a person.

If you dont - well (and very sadly) - Im guessing that you have the ability to be a victim in the making.

If it's late at night it'll probably be dark and because of this I may not notice the patches at first, especially if they're on the back of their jackets or vests. Any group of people approaching me in that situation is going to make me apprehensive. A group of big hairy bikers would elicit the same apprehension. I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm trying to be objective.

[devnull]

I remember, quite a few years ago now, working for ambulance at a concert at Western Springs.

Someone that didn't want to pay jumped the fence way up the back by the zoo.
The fence was higher than he anticipated, and he broke a leg on landing. And he wasn't a small guy.

We needed to get him from where he was all the way down to the backstage area.

A group of Black Power that were there saw us, and one of them came over to see if we wanted help. They carried the stretcher for us all the way down - the crowd were only too happy to open a path for them.

Generalisations are bad.... you can meet good people and scumbags anywhere...

[Headbanger]

Sad, I can't believe people are so blind that they would give any defense to the shitbags.

Still, They generally turn on even those they befriend, so a night of bash,rape and theft maybe on the cards on the future.

I hope that sounds revolting, But that is what they do, The patch is their reward.

[ManDownUnder]

If it's late at night it'll probably be dark and because of this I may not notice the patches at first, especially if they're on the back of their jackets or vests. Any group of people approaching me in that situation is going to make me apprehensive. A group of big hairy bikers would elicit the same apprehension. I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm trying to be objective.

So while we're on the topic of making up the scenario... they walk under a street light ands lo - there's a full facial tatto you can wuite clearly make out, and a specific tatoo on the their forehead saying "JPS" in olde english writing.

Your reaction now?

To be human you'd be scared because of the additional uncertainty int he situation. But it's ok - you judge the person before the patch... no?

[autos]

as a newbie biker of 12months can you please explain to me who aknowledges who on the road?? im real friendly and put my hand up to all and sundry no matter what they ride, obviously not all think like me, is there an unwritten rule please?

[crynsie]

Don't wave mid corner......:niceone:

[Joni]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=60832

[nodrog]

oh for fucksakes..................

welcome to KB

[terbang]

I wave too. You hit the nail on the head, you are a friendly guy. Yup wave to all motorized two wheeled vehicles and believe me, there are those that will appreciate it.

[sunhuntin]

there aint no rules. dont sweat the small stuff. i wave if i see em or can [ie, midcorner is NOT a good place to remove one hand] not everyone does. no big deal.

[Big Dave]

Wave if you feel like - don't if you don't feel like it.
No rules.

[Tank]

There is a ton of snobbery out there.

But to be honest - I was riding a GN250 like you and always gave a nod. about 30% of the time I would get one back.

Now I'm on a bigger bike I get about 90-95% back (or they initiate it).

C

[EJK]

Moped (50cc) riders don't wave....


Do they?

oh P.S. I wave... big big wave normally. Two hands wave if I'm in a very good mood :yes:

[gijoe1313]

Only do the "I'm a little teapot" wave when you are stationary at the lights! :innocent: And welcome to KB, its a lot like the Hotel California, even with the raisins and nuts ...

[mstriumph]

welcome in

sit anywhere ............

waving is optional :rolleyes:

[steveb64]

Moped (50cc) riders don't wave....


Do they?

oh P.S. I wave... big big wave normally. Two hands wave if I'm in a very good mood :yes:

Thus the new avatar! :laugh:

[Finn]

oh for fucksakes..................

welcome to KB

:scooter: :wavey:

[SVboy]

Sooo what are feelings about acknowledging scooter riders? Is there a cutoff point? I like to wave to other bikers...even if almost [but not all] Harley riders ignore me....but I feel like a right prat waving at some scooter, with a jandal wearing youf. So I dont....does that make me an elitist snob or just an arse?!

[HornetBoy]

Only do the "I'm a little teapot" wave when you are stationary at the lights! .

Is that some kind of remark about my katana ... :( ,i get the teapot remark alot now ..:rolleyes:

[007XX]

I always wave....then give them the birdie if they didn't wave back! A bit like this :finger: (been dying to use this icon in context).

They don't see it, but it makes me feel better :p

Oh and yeah, welcome to you. Hope you have lots of fun around here :sunny:

[HornetBoy]

Sooo what are feelings about acknowledging scooter riders? Is there a cutoff point? I like to wave to other bikers...even if almost [but not all] Harley riders ignore me....but I feel like a right prat waving at some scooter, with a jandal wearing youf. So I dont....does that make me an elitist snob or just an arse?!

im the same,scooter riders ,ride for the sake of petrol costs whereas most bikers ride because they love it no matter the costs ,the bigger the bike the more responses you get in my experience .

[Dave-]

I use to wave to everyone.

then cruisers stopped waving back (primarily the harley riders) so i stopped bothering, if one waves to me ill wave back.

now i just wave to sports bikes, and cops.

[HornetBoy]

I use to wave to everyone.

then cruisers stopped waving back (primarily the harley riders) so i stopped bothering, if one waves to me ill wave back.

now i just wave to sports bikes, and cops.

Dont have the cop bikers round here...yet so never had thought about them :whistle: ,some cruisers wave to me when i was on my hornet but they more so dont wave now that im on a sportyer bike ;) also if your on a 250cc your out of luck as when i was on my learners i didnt have many wave at all ,but now they wave all the time

[vifferman]

I confess - it was me.

If ever you're out riding, and a nutter on a blue VFR waves at you, and you don't wave back, and subsequently crash, it's me wotdunnit.

If I'm in a :wavey: mood, and the wavee doesn't wave back, then they get a "Well fukya then!".

[HornetBoy]

I confess - it was me.

If ever you're out riding, and a nutter on a blue VFR waves at you, and you don't wave back, and subsequently crash, it's me wotdunnit.

If I'm in a :wavey: mood, and the wavee doesn't wave back, then they get a "Well fukya then!".

lol yea i kinda get a weird feeling like they just dissed my mom when people dont wave back to me when ive waved at them :bash:

[Rosie]

Sometimes I wave. Sometimes I don't.
I haven't done a detailed statistical analysis, but I really haven't noticed any trend with the types of people who wave, and those who don't. Sometimes people wave. Sometimes they don't.
I guess since the major rule is that all sports bike riders won't wave at cruisers, and all cruiser rides won't wave at sports bikes, no-one has any clear waving guidelines to follow when they see my wee traillie, so I get a random distribution of waves.

[EJK]

Beemer or Honda cops wave back :love:

ehem! no.... I ain't gay....


I confess - it was me.

If ever you're out riding, and a nutter on a blue VFR waves at you, and you don't wave back, and subsequently crash, it's me wotdunnit.

If I'm in a :wavey: mood, and the wavee doesn't wave back, then they get a "Well fukya then!".

Opposite to you, sometime I accidentally forgot to wave lol
Then i say to myself "Oooh! Im sorry! so sorry!"

Do you guys feel the same way Mr/ Mrs. I-didn't-wave?? lol

[HornetBoy]

Sometimes I wave. Sometimes I don't.
I haven't done a detailed statistical analysis, but I really haven't noticed any trend with the types of people who wave, and those who don't. Sometimes people wave. Sometimes they don't.
I guess since the major rule is that all sports bike riders won't wave at cruisers, and all cruiser rides won't wave at sports bikes, no-one has any clear waving guidelines to follow when they see my wee traillie, so I get a random distribution of waves.

yea myself ,when i see a trail bike i dont tend to wave as i see them as their own group like crusiers but if they wave at me ill return it :niceone:

[dogsnbikes]

I always give a wave or a nod.....most return the gesture for those that don't thats their problem not mine

[HornetBoy]

I always give a wave or a nod.....most return the gesture for those that don't thats there problem not mine

Yea i wouldnt not wave to sumone if they waved to me ,thats just rude :cool: .this thread reminds me of the riding with gangs one lol

[Dave-]

Dont have the cop bikers round here...yet so never had thought about them :whistle: ,some cruisers wave to me when i was on my hornet but they more so dont wave now that im on a sportyer bike ;) also if your on a 250cc your out of luck as when i was on my learners i didnt have many wave at all ,but now they wave all the time

I wave at both...caged and non caged cops.

shit if i walk passed one in the street ill smile and say "g'day"

[EJK]

shit if i walk passed one in the street ill smile and say "g'day"

Whoah! now thats the attitude!!! :niceone:
:clap::clap:

[Swoop]

Please! Not another waving thread...

[EJK]

Please! Not another waving thread...

whoops... too late I guess, about to reach the 3rd page lol :shit:

[UberRhys]

im the same,scooter riders ,ride for the sake of petrol costs whereas most bikers ride because they love it no matter the costs ,the bigger the bike the more responses you get in my experience .

Do we really? I thought I rode for the freedom and the thrill of it... Thanks for the heads up. If you hadn't let me in on that one I would have thought I had become some tree-hugging hippie. :wacko:

[*caution*]

I've waved at heaps on gn250 riders who havn't waved back at me....??? hmm maybe cos they are to scared to take one hand off it? Jesus just get your hand off it man!! errrr....

[breakaway]

If I'm in a :wavey: mood, and the wavee doesn't wave back, then they get a "Well fukya then!".

That's a bit harsh. I always give a friendly nod, but there have been times when I've simply not seen the bike.

[PrincessBandit]

There is a ton of snobbery out there.

But to be honest - I was riding a GN250 like you and always gave a nod. about 30% of the time I would get one back.

Now I'm on a bigger bike I get about 90-95% back (or they initiate it).

C

Yep, my experience too! Not sure about the snobbery (wouldn't like to accuse anyone) but I was frequently not acknowledged if I waved or nodded while on the GN. However, I got enough waves to still make me feel good and now I'm on bigger bike everyone pretty much reciprocates. Never take it personally; there have also been times when I've not been able to respond to a wave, or have missed it because I happened to be checking my mirrors or whatever at the time so didn't see nod or wave. :sunny:

[007XX]

Please! Not another waving thread...

Now, now...have you noticed that most of the people replying on here are newbies?

maybe they want to have their say too...( they are "waving thread" virgins :p)

[Swoop]

Now, now...have you noticed that most of the people replying on here are newbies? ( they are "waving thread" virgins :p)
A virgin on KB???

NEVER happen!:buggerd:

[007XX]

A virgin on KB???

NEVER happen!:buggerd:

:gob:Whaaaaatttt?!? But, but...you told me that you'd never been :buggerd: ?!?

So, come on, spill....who was the lucky one? :dodge: :rofl:

And I know for a fact that you happen to wave, Master Swoop :D

[Maha]

oh for fucksakes..................

welcome to KB

At least i wave to you (when you dont see me).......:girlfight:
Damn! i have post in a wavey thread......:wacko:

[007XX]

Damn! i have post in a wavey thread......:wacko:

Take a seat ol' boy, we wouldn't want you hurting yourself now...:laugh:

[Swoop]

:gob:Whaaaaatttt?!? But, but...you told me that you'd never been :buggerd: ?!?

So, come on, spill....who was the lucky one? :dodge: :rofl:

And I know for a fact that you happen to wave, Master Swoop :D
Well... there was this one time, at Band Camp...

[007XX]

Well... there was this one time, at Band Camp...

Eh, back off...that's my favourite saying...:devil2: :laugh:

[Maha]

Take a seat ol' boy, we wouldn't want you hurting yourself now...:laugh:

You now owe me a beer!!!!!

[007XX]

You now owe me a beer!!!!!

Next weekend you can have one, while I grope MOM, how's that? :clap:

[Maha]

Next weekend you can have one, while I grope MOM, how's that? :clap:

Now thats what i call ..... Biker etiquette.....:drool:

[Lucy]

I've waved at heaps on gn250 riders who havn't waved back at me....??? hmm maybe cos they are to scared to take one hand off it? Jesus just get your hand off it man!! errrr....


I have to concur - as a GN rider I usually nod and/or wave at any bike, but I have never ever had a GN rider respond, even when stopped at lights, they will totally ignore me. I put it down to the fact that they are either

a) a learner too scared to take a hand off like you say
b) a guy who is too ashamed to be seen on a GN
c) a guy who doesn't want to acknowledge a fat chick in a high vis vest

all valid reasons I might add, so I carry on regardless happily riding and waving and nodding like an idiot.

[RC1]

i wave or nod to everybody unless its mid corner and unable to, i even flash lights and wave if im in the car , i wave to bikes if im on foot even most wave back and if they dont, dont let this spoil your ride its there prob not yours :niceone:

[pyrocam]

I usually wave to all but if I'm mid corner or at night I let my indicator blink once.

I've seen some people do it to me and I reckon its a great idea when waving isn't going to work.

[NZsarge]

I always give a wave or a nod.....most return the gesture for those that don't thats their problem not mine

...........+1

[ynot slow]

I usually wave to all but if I'm mid corner or at night I let my indicator blink once.

I've seen some people do it to me and I reckon its a great idea when waving isn't going to work.

I wave to most if able too,on toy run had to nod a couple of times.

Indicating at night is same as truckies,good idea.

We are all out there to enjoy the freedom,if they didn't wave I don't take it too heart.Will acknowledge cops in cars with a wave.Some cruisers seem to wave,some not,harley riders don't if they have them macho black leathers and open lids,too scared to let the bars go.Harley riders with proper gear do wave,most are the so called born again riders the cops hate,but they ride to survive,and just enjoy it.

[HornetBoy]

Do we really? I thought I rode for the freedom and the thrill of it... Thanks for the heads up. If you hadn't let me in on that one I would have thought I had become some tree-hugging hippie. :wacko:

hmm right theres always one :clap:, i shoul've learnt by now not to put a sentence without putting (in my opinion) otherwise i get this backlash of stupid comments ...sorry for not pointing out every reason people ride two wheels UberRhys....:blink:

[No FX]

oh P.S. I wave... big big wave normally. Two hands wave if I'm in a very good mood :yes:

is that what you were doing in your avatar pic-the ol' "two handed wave whilst going round a bend":Punk::lol:

[McDuck]

I wave mid corner. Harden the fuck up :)

[EJK]

is that what you were doing in your avatar pic-the ol' "two handed wave whilst going round a bend":Punk::lol:

:headbang::headbang::headbang:

lol want to give rep but gave too much in past 24 hours... wait till tmrw lol

[Patch]

Moped (50cc) riders don't wave....


Do they?


sure we do, don't you recognise it . . . :finger:





Eh, back off...that's my favourite saying...
we've heard about your talent with a flute :psst:

[Skyryder]

I like both hands on the bar. Sometimes raise all fingers while keeping palm on the throttle. 'Bout the only time I take it off is to warn bikers of a cop ahead.

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

I like both hands on the bar. Sometimes raise all fingers while keeping palm on the throttle. 'Bout the only time I take it off is to warn bikers of a cop ahead. :2thumbsup

Skyryder

[pzkpfw]

Since this is a waving thread, can I ask a few questions?

1. How are you this morning Jim2?

2. A few weekends ago I was heading North out of Waikane and waved at three bikes on the straight coming in. One flashed his lights at me, and another waved; but kind of low down to the left like he was sweeping the gravel.

Never seen that before and I was wondering if it was just a wave-style due to sprots bike riding position; or something.

I got the cop-wave on the same trip so didn't think it was that.

I almost wondered if they'd seen something fall off my bike!

Cheers,


(P.S. I wave at most, even mid corner if I can. Often scooters too.)

[Disco Dan]

I always wave to policemen - they always seem to give me a weird wave though, their finger pointing down like they are pointing to their nuts? :whistle: And it always seems to be when im late to work and going a bit quick. :lol:

[Conquiztador]

What's this waving stuff??? I always stop to shake hands!!

[YellowDog]

I'm from the UK and everyone nods. Forwards or sidewards are both OK.

I would assume I was getting the finger if someone waved at me.

Nodding seems to work in Auckland!

[pyrocam]

its commuters who are the worst for not nodding waving. out on the ride, everyone does it almost

[James Deuce]

I'm not looking at the other side of the road when I'm commuting. I've enough going on on my side.

[madandy]

I've taken to nodding or the diagonal head shake like I'm winking to the other rider around town. A wave is always on the cards on the open road -'cept mid bend.

[Conquiztador]

I was thinking, we could start using flags!!

[ceebie13]

Having ridden so much "sur le continent" I've taken to sticking my (left) leg out when passing in the same direction, or my right leg when passing in the opposite direction!

Trouble is, hardly anyone here in NZ recognises it as a greeting!

I doubt it will catch on. The ABs defeat by France is still too raw!

[sinned]

Since I have changed from an SV1000S to a Speed Triple I have noticed that fewer bikers wave. Most waves when I rode the SV have been from riders of sports bikes and tourers. Is it possible that the non faired profile of the S3 confuses the sports bike rider thinking this is a HD, BMW or a chook chaser?



I'm happy to wave to anyone on a bike, but I think there's a bit of snobbery among some riders. When I finally got a decent sized bike (GSX750) and started going to rallies and so on about 8 years ago, I noticed that the Harley riders more often than not didn't wave back, but the sport/tourer bikes more often than not did. I also noticed that my mates, who had been riding to rallies for some time, also on Jap sport/tourers, weren't waving at Harleys. So I figured that as Harley riders generally rubished Jap bikes, and Jap riders generally rubished Harleys, they didn't acknowledge each other on the road. Which I thought was a bit silly, and just kept waving. Now (for the last 3 years) I ride a big dirt bike to the rallies and still generally don't get waved to by the Harley riders and often not by the sport bike riders either now. Get over yourselves people, we're all bike riders, enjoying the same thrills, hardships and so on no matter what brand or size of bike we ride. :grouphug: So feel free to wave, nod, or whatever to all the other bikes out there.:spudwave:

[Dooly]

Since I have changed from an SV1000S to a Speed Triple I have noticed that fewer bikers wave. Most waves when I rode the SV have been from riders of sports bikes and tourers. Is it possible that the non faired profile of the S3 confuses the sports bike rider thinking this is a HD, BMW or a chook chaser?

Took my Speed triple on a ride to Palmy mid week, and encountered quite a few bikes.
I'm pretty sure all waved, including HDs!

So all was well with the world........

[twotyred]

a video treatise on waves :2thumbsup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvXZe9IFJQQ

[EXDUNK]

Having ridden so much "sur le continent" I've taken to sticking my (left) leg out when passing in the same direction, or my right leg when passing in the opposite direction!
Think you may have stuck your right leg out while splitting past me a day or 2 on may home. I was outside lane before ferry terminal on a wee GN125, red jacket and I think I pulled back in the queue to let you through. I don't cut through as fast as you guys do - had a nasty fright just b4 Xmas that has slowed me down. If it was you then thanks for the acknowledgement :niceone:

[Warr]

a video treatise on waves :2thumbsup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvXZe9IFJQQ
That is one good watch !! :lol:

[Nagash]

Mordeth13's got heaps of pretty cool videos lying around on youTube. Like eating a full meal from McDonalds with a helmet on.. gets a bit messy.

I only really wave to people I actually know, other than that a head nod is all you get!

[howdamnhard]

Speak for yourself,I commute and always nod or wave.:Punk:


its commuters who are the worst for not nodding waving. out on the ride, everyone does it almost

[vonstringer]

Today I went on a long ride in the countryside and tested different forms of salute. Nodding didn't seem to get noticed much and I got few responses. A little right-handed salute with the palm of the hand still on the throttle didn't fare much better. The best way to get a response seemed to be to take the left hand off the bars and raising it high, move the hand in a rotating left to right motion with the wrist remaining a stationary pivot point.

This is unmistakable as a friendly wave and I got the best responses. Doing this coming out of a corner I managed to get some Harley riders to wave back despite being on a 225cc commuter.

Back in town I waved at a scooter rider, but he started wobbling all around looking back at me wondering who I was.

Waving in such an obvious fashion does make one feel a bit cheesed off when there is no response however. If a small gesture is made and no response is forthcoming, you can almost pretend you didn't do it (a bit like coughing to cover up a fart).

[dmouse]

OK, so it's not just me then. Any Harley riders out there with a take on this ?:spudwhat:

i allways wave mate if ya got two wheels i wave nod or salute depends on what im doin at the moment, but i allways let you know ive seen you, i get some funny looks from these big dudes lookin like gorila`s on harleys but fuck em im havin fun and if they dont like they can go eat banana`s by the way my ride is a fatboy custom painted with a rebel theme if ya see me say hi take care and have fun regards

dave

[Pex Adams]

Ahh if only we lived in a world where actually people didn't think that they were better than others, or better yet accepted others place in the world...

Then maybe even Harley riders wouldn't be such toffee noses...

[McJim]

I wave to everyone on a bike....Nice guys & gals wave back...some of them are on sportbikes, some on cruisers, some on chook chasers and some on touring bikes...a few dickheads don't wave back....some of them are on sportbikes, some on cruisers, some on chook chasers and some on touring bikes......

So the upshot is it doesn't matter what kind of bike they ride. Anyway - is it a wave or a particle? you decide.:rofl:

[Jantar]

I feel very bad. Since I've been back on the bike this week I haven't waved to a a single rider. Its not that I don't want to wave, its simply that I can't lift my left hand off the handlebars. :wavey:

So my apologies to all those riders I passed today. I wasn't being deliberately rude.

[Biggles2000]

I also wave to every body on a bike.... I would say that the sports bikes and trail bikes are the worst for waving back, but what the hell they are probably thinking "say what, did that hog wave to me...... must be a overseas tourist" and by this stage i'm alredy gone.

[Trudes]

I feel bad too, it seems the more I ride, the less I can be arsed waving. I wave when I can be bothered, don't wave when I can't or too busy holding on!!

[yod]

.... I would say that the sports bikes and trail bikes are the worst for waving back

i'd say the complete opposite

it would seem that riders are less likely to wave at other riders if they are on a different flavour of machine

[NighthawkNZ]

I feel very bad. Since I've been back on the bike this week I haven't waved to a a single rider. Its not that I don't want to wave, its simply that I can't lift my left hand off the handlebars. :wavey:

So my apologies to all those riders I passed today. I wasn't being deliberately rude.

Hope you heal fast... just take it easy man...


I also wave to every body on a bike.... I would say that the sports bikes and trail bikes are the worst for waving back, but what the hell they are probably thinking "say what, did that hog wave to me...... must be a overseas tourist" and by this stage i'm alredy gone.


i'd say the complete opposite

it would seem that riders are less likely to wave at other riders if they are on a different flavour of machine

I would say its pretty even across the board... and is up to the rider whether he/or she waves back... theres not alot you can do if they don't don't take it personally...

The odd occasion I haven't waved is because I am halfway through a fastish cornering manouver and need all hands on the handle bars... (whether I get a quick nod is a different story)

[Blue Velvet]

I wasn't waving, I was drowning.

[Littlewheels]

perhaps they are trying to do too many things at once (GN250 riders), my question is do you nod upwards (slightly more cheeky) or downwards ( I doff my cap to you style?)

[Ixion]

IME touriers are the best about waving, crusiers (Harleys especially, sorry) the worst. But riders of every description wave back, and riders of every description don't.


Incidentally, I can recall the time when the wave was not just a courtesy thing, but a real means of communication. Back when the roads were bad (you sprotsbikers who complaina bout them nowdays have no idea), the wave from on oncoming biker indicated that the road was OK ahead. (or, as OK as roads ever were then).

If not , he'd signal , either bad surface (same as now) , or , hand out front shoving , stop, it's impassable, or slow down (same as now), it's passable , but you'll need to take it real slow. Or, point to the road side ahead, stop, need to communicate something too complex for a signal.

Another one was pat the fuel tank , then side to side arm movement above it, meant "No petrol ahead".

Oddly enough I don't remember a signal for cops back then, I suppose cos there weren't many.

[Jantar]

...Oddly enough I don't remember a signal for cops back then, I suppose cos there weren't many.
Maybe you remember that cops back then had to follow you to get an estimate of your speed off their own speedo, so cops ahead weren't an issue. Those cops who did have radar had that big dish that sat on to top of their boot, and couldn't chase even if they wanted to.

[R1madness]

simce i get to ride a lot of different brands and styles i have noticed an interesting trend.
Wave, nod, flash, whatever - do it early and let the oncomming rider have a chance to recognise it as a greeting. Most will return the wave no matter what i am riding or what they are riding or what i am riding for that matter.

Took a HD out on Tuesday gave and got pleanty of responces. Took a BMW on wed gave none, got one or 2. Big jap multi on thurs gave and got pleanty in return. So it seems to be a bit of a "i will if you will" thing.

I get as many waves from HD riders when i am on a Jap multi as when i am on a HD. So its not a snob thing. If they dont wave to you it would not matter what you are riding they still wont wave. Must be too staunch. (club member or too scared to take one hand off the bars).

[R1madness]

[QUOTE
Oddly enough I don't remember a signal for cops back then, I suppose cos there weren't many.[/QUOTE]

If the cop was in the area but not immediate danger it was left hand above the head, index finger up and small circular movement of the hand to represent a rotating light.

Still in use today by some of us old buggers.

If the cop is close use the flash headlight repeatedly and left hand out sideways, palm down, making up and down movements with whole arm.

[Canterbury]

[QUOTE
Oddly enough I don't remember a signal for cops back then, I suppose cos there weren't many.

If the cop was in the area but not immediate danger it was left hand above the head, index finger up and small circular movement of the hand to represent a rotating light.

Still in use today by some of us old buggers.

If the cop is close use the flash headlight repeatedly and left hand out sideways, palm down, making up and down movements with whole arm.[/QUOTE]

dammit : didn't want to consider meself an old bugga, but i use those signals as a warning behind
oh well, such is life....

[jcupit69]

Waving is always the most obvious way, but sometimes im 2 busy holding on, so i try and throw a nod. I always try and make some sought of a gesture, just as a sign of respect, but i do miss people sometimes, not being rude, just too busy looking at what im doing.
Iv found harleys and big cruisers tend to be the worst for waving back, n generally the sports and super sports riders the best. If poeple are doing something i understand when they dont gesture back, but i get a lil pissed off when people in the other direction just stare at you, its just polite, if someone waves, if you can, wave back, but hey each to their own.
I found riders in the UK always made a real effort to wave, n its nice to see it here too.

[Ixion]

Maybe you remember that cops back then had to follow you to get an estimate of your speed off their own speedo, so cops ahead weren't an issue. Those cops who did have radar had that big dish that sat on to top of their boot, and couldn't chase even if they wanted to.

Yeah, the refrigerator on the roof of the Mk I Zephyr slowed them down (and they were slow to start with!).

But some of the country ones were quite ingenious in finding ways to catch bikes. And, it was their word against theirs.

The circular hand thing to mimic a rotating flasher came much later, cops back then didn't have the rotating beacons.

[idb]

If the cop is close use the flash headlight repeatedly and left hand out sideways, palm down, making up and down movements with whole arm.

To do that I'll have to then put my right hand on my left bar cos that's where my headlight flasher is, I'll try it next time I'm out.

[pyrocam]

If the cop was in the area but not immediate danger it was left hand above the head, index finger up and small circular movement of the hand to represent a rotating light.

Still in use today by some of us old buggers.



I do this and I would hardly call myself an old bugger, not sure how visible a lone rotating finger is at 200kph* though.




*because we are coming from opposite directions at 100kph.

[heyjoe]

I can't believe this is still going . . .

[idb]

So...are we all agreed then...?

[pyrocam]

haha someone did this to me this morning coming the other way on the motorway, in the rain,
\m/ ( or :Punk:)


maybe he just hit the dragonforce on his mp3 player

[Daffyd]

I feel very bad. Since I've been back on the bike this week I haven't waved to a a single rider. Its not that I don't want to wave, its simply that I can't lift my left hand off the handlebars. :wavey:

So my apologies to all those riders I passed today. I wasn't being deliberately rude.

Good to see you're back in the saddle again. I take it the op was successful?

[stevewederell]

Well perhaps not waving, but I'll nod to pretty much anything bar cages and scooters being ridden by a spotty little hermit in singlet, shorts and jandels!

I remember when I first took the wee GN out and noticed all these other folks riding around on much ... MUCH cooler bikes actually nodding to me. I cottoned on pretty quick and either nodded back or even initiated the nod if the bike didn't look too intimidating. I AM much more reserved if I see someone riding a Harley or a 3-piece suit, but if they nod or wave, I"ll happily send one back.

After coming back from my first real ride, I was telling my lovely partner (as best I could through a huge grin) how much fun it was and how nice other BK'rs are. She had been riding for years and already knew this (and the stigma and snobbery that goes with it)...pity she sold her bike though.

To you all happy and safe riding
`wave`

[gijoe1313]

I think we need a special wave at night so we can identify ourselves! Howsabout flashing the hi-beams and then leaving them on as we approach? :wari: Or howsabout we get some glowstrips and put them on our middle index finger after we turn our headlights off as we approach? :2thumbsup

[johnnyflash]

the common signal for the cops/now radartraps etc was a fist on top of helmet, (supposed to represent the cherry on top) but its always worked for us, in the good old days if a cop caught you with his radar (which was the size of a base drum) you deserved to be caught because you must have been sleeping, could always see em miles off, mk3 zepher leaning over from weight of bloody big white drum on back towbar :-) and even then likely the guy was asleep in his patrol car.

[Motu]

Yeah but those old guys must of been pretty thick because they still got caught speeding....some even lost their license.Anyway,I doubt any of them would be still riding these days,they must be pretty old by now.

[Cynos]

I'm a nodder. Especially when I see the same bikes on my commute, but I gotta say - guys wearing one-piece leathers that match their bikes = rude SOBs. The correct response to "nice bike mate" is not "I know."

[outlawtorn]

haha someone did this to me this morning coming the other way on the motorway, in the rain,
\m/ ( or :Punk:)


maybe he just hit the dragonforce on his mp3 player

Could have been me, I always give the devils horns instead of waving to people, just, amazing how many riders don't respond, not that I give a fuck, it just means they didn't see me at all or didn't see me in time to wave back, or they were holding on to the handlebars with both hands, a common practise amongst bikers I'm told.......

[vifferman]

I've more or less given up waving/nodding now. I started to feel guilty about all the poor bastids that crashed after I waved at them, they ignored me, and I said, "Well fuckya then!" :buggerd:

[007XX]

I've more or less given up waving/nodding now. "Well fuckya then!" :buggerd:

+1 :mad: (fuckers)

[martybabe]

Just to prove how ridiculous this all is, I met a Harley bloke a few weeks ago and ever since then in person or on bike we acknowledge each other.

I passed him on the road today and waved as normal and he completely blanked me. Why? cause I've bought a jappa since we last spoke and I was ridding that. wtf, next week I'll pass him on a hog and be worthy of a wave no doubt. Bloody silly. :yes:

[MIXONE]

Just to prove how ridiculous this all is, I met a Harley bloke a few weeks ago and ever since then in person or on bike we acknowledge each other.

I passed him on the road today and waved as normal and he completely blanked me. Why? cause I've bought a jappa since we last spoke and I was ridding that. wtf, next week I'll pass him on a hog and be worthy of a wave no doubt. Bloody silly. :yes:

Didn't you know that the bike maketh the man.
That is typical of many so called bikers.We don't just get discriminated against by cagers,we do it to each other.:slap::bs:

[Rhubarb]

It's something that has been perplexing me (and fellow riders) for a while. Why don't Harley riders wave to non-Harley riders? One of the things I really like about riding is the friendliness of the the other riders. No matter where you go, the rider coming the other way always gives a nod or a wave - except Harley riders. I have even tried to get the ball rolling and waved to Harley riders in the hope they wave back, but they never do!
I have asked many riders this question but no one has had an answer.
I am sure Harley riders are just like the rest of us - out there enjoying the road and the ride.
Has anyone got any ideas?

[Slyer]

Yeah it's not like they need both hands on the bars at all times on those things. :)

[Ragingrob]

Flip the bird next time and I bet you'll warrant a response...

... May not be a wave though :dodge:

[Griffin]

Here we go again. You know, Ive never had a problem with Harley riders waving - in fact more often than not, they wave / nod first. In fact most cruiser riders seem quite friendly in that respect - but inversely, very rarely doeas a sportsbike rider wave. Then again, I ride a Cruiser... so what does this tell me?

It tells me that the majority of Cruiser riders wil wave at other Cruiser riders but not to Sportsbike riders.
It tells me that the majority of Sportsbike riders wil wave at other Sportsbike riders but not to Cruiser riders.

And it tells me that a small few will wave at anyone - and then come on KB and complain that one style of rider or the other doesnt return their waves...


oh well.

[98tls]

It's something that has been perplexing me (and fellow riders) for a while. Why don't Harley riders wave to non-Harley riders? One of the things I really like about riding is the friendliness of the the other riders. No matter where you go, the rider coming the other way always gives a nod or a wave - except Harley riders. I have even tried to get the ball rolling and waved to Harley riders in the hope they wave back, but they never do!
I have asked many riders this question but no one has had an answer.
I am sure Harley riders are just like the rest of us - out there enjoying the road and the ride.
Has anyone got any ideas? Same reason chicks wont shag ya...your an ugly fucker.:shit:J/K fella.Who cares who doesnt wave.By the way,welcome to KB,nice to see another from down south.If heading a bit north sing out and will put the jug on.

[Rhubarb]

Down in the south we wave to everyone. Sports, cruisers, tourers, commuters ....... the lot.

[98tls]

Down in the south we wave to everyone. Sports, cruisers, tourers, commuters ....... the lot. You lot also spit lots and play banjos but hey......live and let live i say.

[Mikkel]

Funnily enough - I don't ever have anyone not waving back when I'm waving at someone on the open road. It happens in the cities for sure - but then again I too happen to miss bikers when I'm focusing on keeping track of traffic.

I bet it's all in your mind.

No reason to take offense at a biker not waving back - unless you're riding in the rain. If you're riding in the rain anyone on 2-wheels have got to be true bikers and as such it would be a fatal breach of ettiquette not to wave back. (yes, I am kinda kidding).

[Big Dave]

Because we don't like you.

[Flip]

I would say about a third of sports bike riders dont wave back to me and a bit less say a fifth from other Harley riders. There will be a few who dont wave back to Harleys or Sports Bikes or whatever and there will be a few who won't wave to anybody ever.

[Her_C4]

Why don't Harley riders wave ...?

Gahhhhhhhh :thud:

[Forest]

I've always put it down to tribalism.

[Big Dave]

I've always put it down to tribalism.

That's when two chicks, like....never mind.

[phaedrus]

never had a problem with no waving myself. I nearly always got one back.

[Crazy Steve]

It's something that has been perplexing me (and fellow riders) for a while. Why don't Harley riders wave to non-Harley riders? One of the things I really like about riding is the friendliness of the the other riders. No matter where you go, the rider coming the other way always gives a nod or a wave - except Harley riders. I have even tried to get the ball rolling and waved to Harley riders in the hope they wave back, but they never do!
I have asked many riders this question but no one has had an answer.
I am sure Harley riders are just like the rest of us - out there enjoying the road and the ride.
Has anyone got any ideas?

Simple....They are Super Cool...

And peeps that ride Jap Crap are Geeks ! ! ! !

Crazy Steve..

[Big Dave]

Can whoever organises these things please let Crazy Steve be in charge.

[Crazy Steve]

Can whoever organises these things please let Crazy Steve be in charge.

Fckin Amen.....:wacko:

Crazy Steve..

[Big Dave]

Sometimes when I'm on a Harley I wave with both hands to bring balance to the force.

[98tls]

Agent orange...........

[Winston001]

Curious question. Hadn't noticed in particular but since you ask...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=60832&highlight=harly+wave :devil2:

PS the thread started in 2006 and was still going on earlier this year, and coming to you very soon if Spankme notices... :D

[fatzx10r]

because they are better than me ;)

[TimeOut]

They think they are

[owner]

Dont take it personally dude maybe they dont want to.

Since I have living in the UK I'm getting used to no FOORKER waving or saying gidday at the lights. Miserable Pome's

[CookMySock]

Here we go again. You know, Ive never had a problem with Harley riders waving - in fact more often than not, they wave / nod first. In fact most cruiser riders seem quite friendly in that respect - but inversely, very rarely doeas a sportsbike rider wave. Then again, I ride a Cruiser... so what does this tell me?What that tells you, is sportbike riders wont wave to you any more, because whenever they do they get ignored, or worse.

To be fair, the mrs and I got waved to by a bloke with a massive grin on a shiney harley the other day. I was so shocked I nearly fucked the roundabout up. Would we have parked next to this guy and had a yarn - of course!



It tells me that the majority of Sportsbike riders wil wave at other Sportsbike riders but not to Cruiser riders.What you think is wrong. Sportbike riders will happily greet anyone, UNTIL they are repeatedly and rudely rebuffed, and then they will reconsider.



oh well.Yup, see here you attempt to blame sportbike riders for this imbalance, where the reality is more the cruiser riders are the ones with the bad attitude - and they like it don't they ? Thats the whole point of riding a cruiser, in particular a harley.. isn't it ? Harleys are NOT happy-go-lucky fun machines, they are in-your-face fuck-you attitude machines, aren't they ? And that is the attitude adopted by their riders, and that is why they don't wave to others outside their breed, because anything that is not a cruiser can get fucked. Am I wrong ?

DB

[awayatc]

Waving for me not always practical....so I nod most often.

If you would be riding a Harley Nodding may not be noticeable.......

:scooter:

[trustme]

I hardly ever get a wave here or any form of recognotion & yet when riding a Beemer in the US was always waved at & Harley guys were always happy to have a talk. Strange but true, or were they really gesticulating to inform me that tourists riding germanic lawn mowers should get the fuck out of their way.

[Gubb]

Is your self esteem really that low that it bothers you?

[firefighter]

because they're fucken cunts! lol, na iv'e noticed that a bit too, the bigger the cruiser in general the less likely my Korean piece of shit is likely to get any sort of acceptance as another motorbike, therefore making it's right to any sort of friendly response an absolute travesty to the cruiser community, which revokes the privelidge of a head nod or wave.

hahahahahaha- yes I am taking the piss, BUT the bigger the cruiser the less likely a wave I find.

[Griffin]

Yup, see here you attempt to blame sportbike riders for this imbalance, where the reality is more the cruiser riders are the ones with the bad attitude

Actually that is not what I was doing at all... if you actually READ my post and allow it to digest in your cerebrum... you will notice that I am blaming both parties equally - I dont believe there is one side thats worse than the other.

My experience - from riding a cruiser is that when I wave or nod to Sports riders the vast majority do not return the wave. Sportsbike riders feel the same about cruiser riders... from their experience of the same.

I have a cruiser because I like the look and style of a cruiser and I dont particularly like sportsbikes... that doesnt mean I have an attitude - its my preference.

You should be careful when quoting peoples posts not to twist what they are saying in to what you want to hear so that you can develop arguments... that would make you a very dangerous Bastard.

[McJim]

Down in the south we wave to everyone. Sports, cruisers, tourers, commuters ....... the lot.

Ya northern monkey. I went for a 3 hour north ride yesterday and still didn't reach Dunedin.

Everyone waves at me. Wait until this waving thread joins the others in PD.

[Blackshear]

Lots and lots of waves, nods, lip biting today.
SUMMER IS HERE!!!
:headbang:

[CookMySock]

I dont believe there is one side thats worse than the other.yup, and that is the problem.


My experience - from riding a cruiser is that when I wave or nod to Sports riders the vast majority do not return the wave. Yes, I agree, but what you are not getting, is that is because they got burned one too many times by doing it. Capice ?


Sportsbike riders feel the same about cruiser riders... from their experience of the same.No they don't. Or at least, they didn't until someone was rude to them one too many times.


I have a cruiser because I like the look and style of a cruiser and I dont particularly like sportsbikes... that doesnt mean I have an attitude - its my preference.Absolutely, we agree completely. That is the reason I have my bike, and the same reason everyone else has their bikes.


You should be careful when quoting peoples posts not to twist what they are saying in to what you want to hear so that you can develop arguments... that would make you a very dangerous Bastard.I apologise if I tarred you with the same brush. I should not have accused you of creating or perpetuating this thing. Understand though, that others have, and now you have this legacy. So make a difference! I go out of my way to wave to cruisers, regardless of the above, so lets see you do it too, and maybe we can change this thing. I certainly don't like it, and clearly neither do you.

Wave !

DB

[portokiwi]

:Punk:I wave to every type of bike I see.... If they wave back thats cool...... If they dont thats ok.

[Headbanger]

Yes, I agree, but what you are not getting, is that is because they got burned one too many times by doing it. Capice ?

No they don't. Or at least, they didn't until someone was rude to them one too many times.



As someone who has owned a number of different HD's and Jap bikes of all sorts of shapes and sizes can I point out the fact that you have absolutely no clue at all.None.Zero.nadda.

[<Rhino>]

:Punk:I wave to every type of bike I see.... If they wave back thats cool...... If they dont thats ok.

I do the same. Wave if safe, nod most of the time coz it feels safer, slight look right then nod, or the whole head lift nod, whatever feels comfortable. Why do I wave/nod... because oneday just after I started riding somone waived to me, I guessd that theres a comradorie amoung riders so I ackowledge that.....if somone waves or nods back then they feel the same if they don't then to bad, no skin of my or anyone elses nose.

As has been pointed out to me on many occasion I ride what is considdered to be a shite, crap, no cred bike maybe thats why some biker dont wave......so what. Theres far worse things in life, and I have a hell of alot of other things to worry about that menial shit like that.

My advice is, just do what you feel like, get on with your life and save the worry for the important shit! :apint:

[portokiwi]

Who realy cares what type of bike you ride.... You ride becouse you love it..... You ride becouse you can afford that bike.... THE main thing is you have a bike. Which to me is better then driving a car:2thumbsup
I love bikes. i dont care what country, age or type it is. Its the thrill of having the freedom of riding a motorcycle. Dirt or Road who cares.... Its two wheels.
Ok i do like looking at other bikes. I have never owned brand new but to me mine are and allways be my pride and joy.
I wave becouse I am proud to be a motorcycle rider.

[idb]

Hey, I've go a great idea.
Why don't we come up with a KB wave so that we can recognise each other on the road?

[Irontusk]

I usually try to wave, if I can't due to conditions then I'll nod. I try to do either because I read about a few people who on their first ride had someone wave to them and I think it makes for a friendlier biking culture, and also I'm in the habit from driving my type of car (no one here wants to know about that though) not that I usually get a wave off.. but I'd like to.

BUT, out of the all the bikes I've seen on the road since I started riding (not long, maybe seen 20 bikes?) I've only had one acknowledge me, he was on a sports/tourer and he was also probably just thanking me for letting him in infront of me. Makes you feel kind of shitty+silly if you wave to someone and you don't get anything back!

[dyls]

Hey, I've go a great idea.
Why don't we come up with a KB wave so that we can recognise each other on the road?

sounds like a good idea :)

kind of sticking my neck out here but, after i bought my first bike, and found myself stranded on the side of the road in wellington for a couple hours when it clapped out and I didn't have the first idea of how to troubleshoot it, i wondered whether there was a universal 'oh hey i'm actually stopped here cause i'm fucked and can't get moving again, not just admiring the scenery' symbol. like...I dunno...helmet upside down on the road...or something :). cause it was literally my second day riding and I didn't feel confident enough to wave another biker down.

??

and can I also add - as a total newbie, another biker waving or nodding to you is a REALLY BIG DEAL - gives you all sorts of confidence and stuff. Don't forget what it's like to be out there when you start virtually on your own and to be shit scared and overwhelmed by all the traffic around you. something as simple as an acknowledgement from another rider can go a long way towards renewing your faith in the biker community, and give you a bit more encouragement to carry on.

[alanzs]

I nod, wave, grunt, whatever when I see other riders. If you see me and don't recognize my affirmation, it's because I am probably holding on for dear life. Take no offense. :2thumbsup

[Monamie]

I usually try to wave, if I can't due to conditions then I'll nod. I try to do either because I read about a few people who on their first ride had someone wave to them and I think it makes for a friendlier biking culture, and also I'm in the habit from driving my type of car (no one here wants to know about that though) not that I usually get a wave off.. but I'd like to.

BUT, out of the all the bikes I've seen on the road since I started riding (not long, maybe seen 20 bikes?) I've only had one acknowledge me, he was on a sports/tourer and he was also probably just thanking me for letting him in infront of me. Makes you feel kind of shitty+silly if you wave to someone and you don't get anything back!

Yes it does make you feel a bit silly when bikers don't wave/nod back...kind of arrogant I think.:Oops:
I was out yesterday and only about 1/3 waved back...such a fantastic day too...one would think they would all be happy to be out there:yes:I certainly was :sunny:

[Irontusk]

Yes it does make you feel a bit silly when bikers don't wave/nod back...kind of arrogant I think.:Oops:


Yup, I got snobbed by both the bikes I saw today! Not even sure if they saw me :doh:

[Her_C4]

Hey, I've go a great idea.
Why don't we come up with a KB wave so that we can recognise each other on the road?



Ground hog day!!!! :done: :2guns: :2guns: bling awarded for trolling with such a straight face :-)

[JATZ]

Doe's flicking my right foot of the peg count as a wave ?

[nico]

:niceone:just wondering why it seems on my daily ride why do the cruser style bikes never wave back? even when im warning them of the cop ????? strange is this some marcho im soo beter than you on your jap rice burner thing???????? just curious is probally in a thread somewhere already im a nice guy wave lol,
the nice gurl standing in the bus stop by airport thaught so well actually she didnt wave rather lift her top lol musta been cold out airport 2nite gave her a freindly wave.:niceone: