XR650r owners' thread

[Cary]

Dude. Google.
http://blaisracingservices.com/Honda/XR650R/Motor-/-Drive-Line/XR650R-Upper-Chain-Slider-OEM/prod_114.html

Yeah saw them, won't send int orders under US$300........

Looks like that will do fine Dino and enough drum for 100 more :)

Have ordered a couple thru ThumperTalk

[dino3310]

Go to page 42 in this catalog, http://www.ballards.cc/catalogue-2009-no25 lots of goodies

[Cary]

Go to page 42 in this catalog, http://www.ballards.cc/catalogue-2009-no25 lots of goodiesBallards are a bit funny to, no ordering on line or e-mail........

[dino3310]

Thats great! just like kientech where you actually talk to some one who nows there shit, gives it that personal touch.
but yeah know what you mean, i like clicking on all the things to add to cart then take it to checkout, but dont buy. kinda like practicing for lotto :lol:

[Cary]

Thats great! just like kientech where you actually talk to some one who nows there shit, gives it that personal touch.
Talk to someone, who does that anymore!!

Might have been a wise move if parts turn out to be for an XR600 instead :shit: Sometimes ordering onlines a but like lotto.......

[dino3310]

i think thumper talk dont do any thing before 2000

[dino3310]

well, snuck out for a quick blat today 2hrs worth of gravel yee haa:Punk: i luv the little piggy:love:
shame work gets in the way of live, would love to ride that stretch of road without the lifestyle block owners 4x4s hogging the f:angry: road.
little piggys running well after the rebuild, just figuring out which gearing gonna suit before i go buying sprocketts, this things got some torque it just keeps pulling with the road gearing:yes: speedo only goes to 140klms:shutup: and with the nobs and the duckybill guard the tank slappins not far away after that :lol: oh and did i say i luv my pig:love: :lol:

[Taz]

oh and did i say i luv my pig:love: :lol:

I have heard that rumour. I hope you love your XR just as much :lol:

[dino3310]

ya know ive been trying to think of a comeback all afternoon ya prick but a decent one still evades me mmmmmmm

[tri boy]

clunk, whirr,...........kaclunk, whirr.......................
(brain sucker slowly dying of starvation):shake:

[dino3310]

:woohoo: just ran the standard tank to empty and got 191klms 1/2 road 1/2 gravel that be 19klms a litre, thought that was bloody good considering shes an XR and getting on a bit, o/s slug as well.
so if i treat her right then i should get 400 out of the 22ltr :woohoo:

[dino3310]

Can anyone tell me how to work out HP at R/wheel when its 46 at the crank.
oh and 51.9nm of torque too:Punk: ooohh yeeaahh

[Taz]

Can anyone tell me how to work out HP at R/wheel when its 46 at the crank.
oh and 51.9nm of torque too:Punk: ooohh yeeaahh

It's really simple..............





































Put it on a dyno.

[cynna]

:woohoo: just ran the standard tank to empty and got 191klms 1/2 road 1/2 gravel that be 19klms a litre, thought that was bloody good considering shes an XR and getting on a bit, o/s slug as well.
so if i treat her right then i should get 400 out of the 22ltr :woohoo:

i get around 300k before i hit reserver on my 24 l tank

[dino3310]

It's really simple..............
Put it on a dyno.

have you got one i could use

[dino3310]

i get around 300k before i hit reserver on my 24 l tank

sweet mate, i thought they would be thirstier

[NordieBoy]

Can anyone tell me how to work out HP at R/wheel when its 46 at the crank.
oh and 51.9nm of torque too:Punk: ooohh yeeaahh

Probably around 37-38 at the wheel.

[centaurus]

sweet mate, i thought they would be thirstier

Same here. I was impressed to see 170ks before reserve on the standard tank. It eats less petrol than my 600 4inline sport bike.

[slowpoke]

It eats less petrol than my 600 4inline sport bike.

That comes as a suprise? It's only making half the horsepower.

[t3mp0r4ry nzr]

Probably around 37-38 at the wheel.

were these models pretty corked up from the factory? doesnt sound like a lot of peak power

[Cary]

Probably around 37-38 at the wheel.
Come on now, KTM owners prolly look at this thread, HP more like 60 horses stock.......right :shifty:

[NordieBoy]

were these models pretty corked up from the factory? doesnt sound like a lot of peak power

The DR is about 43-44 at the crank and 35 odd at the rear wheel.

[dino3310]

were these models pretty corked up from the factory? doesnt sound like a lot of peak power
its not but on 128kg Dry and that magic carb the power is delivered way better than most stock singles of that era( and prolly now as well)

Come on now, KTM owners prolly look at this thread, HP more like 60 horses stock.......right :shifty:
yeah but XR owners are straight up, we dont tug ourselves up in to thinking our rides are more than they are like certian orange owners :Pokey: :whistle:


The DR is about 43-44 at the crank and 35 odd at the rear wheel.
mines got the 1mm o/s and de-corked so that might add a couple more.:Punk:

[Taz]

yeah but XR owners are straight up, we dont tug ourselves up in to thinking our rides are more than they are like certian orange owners

My ktm is nothing more or less than what it is. Oh and it's 128kg wet :)

[t3mp0r4ry nzr]

its not but on 128kg Dry and that magic carb the power is delivered way better than most stock singles of that era( and prolly now as well)

yeah but XR owners are straight up, we dont tug ourselves up in to thinking our rides are more than they are like certian orange owners :Pokey: :whistle:


mines got the 1mm o/s and de-corked so that might add a couple more.:Punk:

Do you know much about the xr650L model? Im looking for a new bike/project with aim of preparing it for an african trip in a couple of years. Of what Ive found out about the 650L is that it is heavier due to factory road legal gear, it is geared longer for raod use and has heavier flywheel. The engine is based on the Dominator of the late 80's, same cyclinder, low compression, milder cam than the 600r, so less powerful, but it does have e start (not that I mind kicking a bike).
The xr6oor has legend status with many owners considering it the best dirt bike or do everything bike ever made. Question, do I go for the 650L or 600R that is road legal or has been made road legal in the past. What is the best base bike?
Do you know or anyone else know if the 650L has crappier suspention than the 600R. unfortunately the bike that Im considering is about a 5 hour drive away so makes inspection difficult.

[NordieBoy]

mines got the 1mm o/s and de-corked so that might add a couple more.:Punk:

Probably slightly less but more noise so it sounds more powerful.

[CRM]

Most forums I've read say that the 650L is overweight and underpowered and suggest staying away. They look a lot like the XR600r and are aircooled but have E start. Apparently it's the complexity of the E-start and everything that goes with that that adds the weight and turns it into a real Pig. So I would say that the 600r would definitely be a better base bike. I did Whangarei to Napier through Waikaremoana in a day on mine and had a blast, plus took it all around the South Island fully loaded so would be great for the African adventure as long as well prepped. I'd get another one before a 650L for sure. 650L is I think more like a DR650 - fine adventure bike but not really a dirt bike as well like the 600r is.


Do you know much about the xr650L model? Im looking for a new bike/project with aim of preparing it for an african trip in a couple of years. Of what Ive found out about the 650L is that it is heavier due to factory road legal gear, it is geared longer for raod use and has heavier flywheel. The engine is based on the Dominator of the late 80's, same cyclinder, low compression, milder cam than the 600r, so less powerful, but it does have e start (not that I mind kicking a bike).
The xr6oor has legend status with many owners considering it the best dirt bike or do everything bike ever made. Question, do I go for the 650L or 600R that is road legal or has been made road legal in the past. What is the best base bike?
Do you know or anyone else know if the 650L has crappier suspention than the 600R. unfortunately the bike that Im considering is about a 5 hour drive away so makes inspection difficult.

[dino3310]

XR650l is a great bike, the only downer is the carb but slap the 600 carb with the larger jets(1 option) and the power delivery is fantastic, easy to chop weight and that lecky leg can be a saviour in a tight spot.
But yeah the XR6 is better in the dirt.
Triboy swears by his XRL.

[dino3310]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes//auction-296953354.htm

[tri boy]

$9800 for a BRP:shit:
Makes my kitted up one quite a bargain.:yes:
Yo Dino, I have made up a rather spiffy low pressure fork pump, with a very accurate Fesco low psi gauge that was lying around at work.
Pop round, and I'll pump you up:blink:

[dino3310]

$9800 for a BRP:shit:
Makes my kitted up one quite a bargain.:yes:
Yo Dino, I have made up a rather spiffy low pressure fork pump, with a very accurate Fesco low psi gauge that was lying around at work.
Pop round, and I'll pump you up:blink:

oh behave big boy :msn-wink:

[junkmanjoe]

Yo Dino, .Pop round, and I'll pump you up:blink:

Oh:shit: Dino i so got to reply to this one....:gob:
you hamilhole ladies keep it to your selfs..:sick:

JMJ

[Peeteey]

Hi folks, I'm looking for some sage advice and were told that you guys would be the right bunch to bother ...

I've been hooked again on off roaders, well, dual purpose anyhoo. I'm trying to make my mind up between two models, an '86 XL600R with 50,000 odd and a '91 XR600 with 30,000 odd on it but 3000k ago had a complete engine rebuild, top and bottom.

What I'd love to find out is if there are any major differences between the two models? I know the XR is supposed to be sportier and the XL more of a work horse but what about weight, reliability, parts etc?

The XR attracts me because of the rebuild, I've always wanted one and it's in the south island.
The XL attracts me because I may be able to get it a bit cheaper but it's in the north island so kinda negates that. It also has passenger pegs plus the fitting for a top box which would be good. I'd like to put the wife on the back sometimes and to have somewhere to put our crap so she doesn't have to wear a backpack.

The XR is obviously in better nick, rebuild etc plus there's some surface rust on the XL. The XR may need new tyres for a WOF, too knobly possibly, which bumps the price up.
The XL's Ks are getting up there. Is there any maintenance or problems that may arise from an old thumper with 50,000k's on the clock?

Here's the XR:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...86&permanent=0

Here's the XL:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=298549566

Is it my imagination or does the XL look like it has a bigger tank? That's a plus if it does ...
I know footpegs and topbox are do-able to either models so really I'd love to know:

Weight difference
Comfort difference
Reliability difference
Running costs Difference

I'm not a racer. That doesn't mean I wouldn't love the XR to bits but if there's a large comfort difference then it may be enough to sway the vote.

HelenOfTroy's DR650 felt just about right for me, not too heavy, not too big, plenty of beans with smooth delivery.

I want to keep it to a max of 600cc (so I don't have to pay Nick Smith more than need be, bastard), maybe down to 450-500ish if there was a great deal and I'd need to keep it under $3k as am a broke musician! :)
Being able to go 2-up would be a big plus, hence the interest in the XL, don't really like the idea of the XR's rear pegs ... especially with no chain guard for her petite ankles ...
Am not looking for a motox machine but one that can handle some fun off roading as well as the road ...

Thanks for any help!

Pete

p.s. unless any one of you fine people would have such a bike that you're thinking of selling and want it to go to a loving home ...

[Waihou Thumper]

You might want to change your links to Trade me, they are dead mate....:)

[centaurus]

I've just removed the rear suspension to my xr650r to replace the linkage bearings. Inspecting the swingarm bearings, I noticed that even though there is no play and the inner rubber seals look good, the inner bearing races do not rotate at all. Is this normal, or they are normal bearings and the inner race should rotate?

Thing is the swingarm bearings are not cheap so I wouldn't replace them unless they need to.

[dino3310]

Peeteey, my XR6 has foot pegs bolted to frame so shes pretty good for the passenger BUT when 2 up my riding position focking suxs:oi-grr: so ive taken the pegs of so i cant double :dodge:
is this the XR you were looking at http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-298230986.htm
looks pretty good but through my own experiences dont trust "full rebuilds" make sure the reciepts are all there, even then make sure you get her checked right out.
is this the XL http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-298549566.htm
both look very tidy, but they are getting on a bit.:(
for to up and more road work the xl would suit more as for off road the XL wont touch the XR:headbang:, the XL is slightly heavier and i think the frame is weaker as designed more for more road than trail/enduro.
after market tanks for both:2thumbsup
helenoftroys DR sounds the right bike for what your looking at doing.

[dino3310]

actually mate the Dominator NX650 would be right up your alley

have a read http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252960

was a couple on terdme not long ago for 3k. bloody good strong bike

[Waihou Thumper]

Or a bootiful DR750s SR41A....:)

[Buddha#81]

is this the XR you were looking at http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-298230986.htm

with a drum rear i'd be guessing that is a '88 not '91 too!

[brp]

Hey Buddha - ya get my PM re brake pads ? (all seemed to crash when sending) anyway here's the link that could solve ya brake problem if not
sorted http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=289320166

comes with good quality stainless heat shield



For those that have not come across it - there's a good article at the link for dialling in your xr650 suspension.


http://borynack.com/XR650R/Cycle/suspension.htm

[Buddha#81]

Hey Buddha - ya get my PM re brake pads ? (all seemed to crash when sending) anyway here's the link that could solve ya brake problem if not
sorted http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=289320166

comes with good quality stainless heat shield

Yeah I hopefully have fixed my brake issue. I'll have to wait untill Greymouth to confirm if i'll die or not, its only on the street curcuits i'll have those sort of issues again. It appears keeping it rubber side down is more of an issue. Anyone got a set of plastic for a 650r lying around? hehehe

[centaurus]

... Anyone got a set of plastic for a 650r lying around? hehehe

I think I've seen one on trademe the two days ago.

[cynna]

torpedo.co.nz has 5 pack of oil filters for the xr650r and other models on sale today $27.50 with postage

not sure of the quality but shouldnt matter too much since you have to change the filter so often

[dino3310]

$19.95
http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T7OION0F5/title/torpedo7-oil-filter---5-pack

[mattsdakar]

Yay finally sold my DRZ400E on trademe this week so can go ahead and buy my mates (aka Ian Ferris's) pimped XR650R.
Looking forward to the extra power, comes with many extras incl safari tank custom made fairing, braided lines etc etc etc
Have kept my supermoto wheels to fit which I'll try and sort next week, calling Buddha, come in Buddha#81
I'll post some photos next week

[cynna]

whats Ian replacing his with?

i never came close to keeping up with you when you had the drz so wont even see your dust now....

[helenoftroy]

Yay finally sold my DRZ400E on trademe this week so can go ahead and buy my mates (aka Ian Ferris's) pimped XR650R.
Looking forward to the extra power, comes with many extras incl safari tank custom made fairing, braided lines etc etc etc
Have kept my supermoto wheels to fit which I'll try and sort next week, calling Buddha, come in Buddha#81
I'll post some photos next week
Awesome! XRs are multiplying in CHCH!
My boy Sam had his first off road play at McLeans Island on his last weekend,the bike is still filthy,must post some photos when its recognisable again.
The BRPs dont like being laid down:shutup:...he was totally knackered from 10-15 mins of trying to start the beast....
So will there be another XR racing with Budda soon??:woohoo:

whats Ian replacing his with?

i never came close to keeping up with you when you had the drz so wont even see your dust now....

Lmao!
Hes fast on any bike cynna....but yeah,on an XR........:bye:

[dino3310]

The BRPs dont like being laid down:shutup:...he was totally knackered from 10-15 mins of trying to start the beast....


hold the decomp on for 10 or so strokes( no throttle) then try to start as norm, so ive heard.... my old DR BIG was like that as well.
Glad Sams enjoying it there a wonderful beast

[dino3310]

shit XR lights really suck:shit:

[helenoftroy]

Do you guys run stock gearing on your XRs?

Sams has had rego on hold & been just used for motocross/offroad stuff by previous owner.Its awesome in the technical stuff but has no legs on the seal

We haven't checked yet but it could be running on 13/50

Do you stay with 14/48 or go to a 15?

Sorry bout the questions but shes all new for us!

[dino3310]

stock gearing on my XR6 is 48/14 which tops out about 135 ive got 48/15 at the mo and its pretty good for open road will pull to 140 before i go Nana :lol: when i got her she was on 42/14 which would cruise at 120-30 all day and speedo only goes to 140 so dont know how far after that i backed off when i felt the slap coming on:shit:. im going to go to 45/14 which will give me middle of the range with a 13 and 15 to play with and i'l keep the 48 rear for any real offroad weekends.
But that might not help sam since mines a little red pig:Punk: and hasnt grown up into a BRP :rofl:

[mattsdakar]

whats Ian replacing his with?

i never came close to keeping up with you when you had the drz so wont even see your dust now....

Ian's just bought a 2008 KTM 950 Super enduro off a friend in the North Is, he didn't really want to sell the XR but I twisted his arm lol!
He still has his CRF450 for offroading/farm rides but will be using the KTM for Dusty Butts etc
Did you manged to get your supermoto wheels fitted to your XR in the end???

[cynna]

na - i had to sell them a few weeks ago. needed some money to fix the 4wd. finally got all the bits together but lost interest and only have 6 months to go to make my 5 points last so didnt want to tempt fate racing round the hills...

[cynna]

Do you guys run stock gearing on your XRs?

Sams has had rego on hold & been just used for motocross/offroad stuff by previous owner.Its awesome in the technical stuff but has no legs on the seal

We haven't checked yet but it could be running on 13/50

Do you stay with 14/48 or go to a 15?

Sorry bout the questions but shes all new for us!

will have to drag mine out of the shed to have a look. have a 13 at the front at the moment but not sure if the rear is 48 or 45 - was much better onthe road with a 14 on the front. need to replace the chain and sprockets soon so keen to hear what others run as well

[Casualty]

Here's a few pics of my new BRP

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[mattsdakar]

Some photo's of my new XR

[dino3310]

im green with envy

[cooneyr]

Reckon it will be as fast in your hands as it was in Ian's? That tank will get you a fair way from home ;)

[mattsdakar]

Reckon it will be as fast in your hands as it was in Ian's? That tank will get you a fair way from home ;)
.
Ah no, don't proclaim to be as good or as fast as Ian, he's quite a rider but the bike certainly has more get up and go than I am use to, still getting to grips with the kick start, which I see as the bikes only negative

[thepom]

Bloody good loking bike there matt....

[dino3310]

XR6 lighting kit
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Lights/auction-303187526.htm

[Buddha#81]

na - i had to sell them a few weeks ago. needed some money to fix the 4wd. finally got all the bits together but lost interest and only have 6 months to go to make my 5 points last so didnt want to tempt fate racing round the hills...

stink!.........I would have put off the heatpump i just brought and grabbed them......dont sell the second big tank, i'll need it for the next dusty butt. Team BRP?:Punk:

[Cary]

Tank 4 sale (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Fuel-tanks/auction-305643739.htm). Not a bad price, doesn't say how many lt tho

[mattsdakar]

Finally got my arse in gear and fitted my motard wheels to the XR650R. Took a bit of mucking around as rear hub was too wide so had to do quite a bit of work to get it thin enough.
Looking forward to havig some dry roads to test it out

[dino3310]

The rides looking hot bro:Punk:

[centaurus]

Finally got my arse in gear and fitted my motard wheels to the XR650R. Took a bit of mucking around as rear hub was too wide so had to do quite a bit of work to get it thin enough.
Looking forward to havig some dry roads to test it out

What wheels do you have on it? They look like the CBR250 MC19 ones (the three spokes mode), but the front one is too wide to be from a 250.

[mattsdakar]

What wheels do you have on it? They look like the CBR250 MC19 ones (the three spokes mode), but the front one is too wide to be from a 250.

Both are from Suzuki RGV250

[dino3310]

since we on the subject, anyone know what rims will go on the XR6 without to much trouble.
i've seen one in Hamilton but been unable to flag him down for interagation :lol:

[centaurus]

since we on the subject, anyone know what rims will go on the XR6 without to much trouble.
i've seen one in Hamilton but been unable to flag him down for interagation :lol:

I have on mine CBR250 MC19 wheels. The advantage is the rear wheel doesn't need any machining. The disadvantage is you can't put fat tyres, so less grip. Personally I feel the grip is enough, even in the wet. The bike is very light anyway.

Some people say that the cush drive won't last, being made for a less powerful engine. I bought mine with these wheels on and put already more than 2000kms on it and the cush drive looks mint.

I know there have been people that put CBR600 f2/f3 rear (hub machining required) with a cbr900 front wheel for wider tyre, NSR250 wheels (hub machining required), CBR 250 MC22, VFR 400 (don't know any details about this one).

[Buddha#81]

GSXR250 wheels, only used them because i had the in the previous bike (DRZ400E)

[centaurus]

I have on mine CBR250 MC19 wheels. The advantage is the rear wheel doesn't need any machining. The disadvantage is you can't put fat tyres, so less grip. Personally I feel the grip is enough, even in the wet. The bike is very light anyway.

Some people say that the cush drive won't last, being made for a less powerful engine. I bought mine with these wheels on and put already more than 2000kms on it and the cush drive looks mint.

I know there have been people that put CBR600 f2/f3 rear (hub machining required) with a cbr900 front wheel for wider tyre, NSR250 wheels (hub machining required), CBR 250 MC22, VFR 400 (don't know any details about this one).

Correction to my previous post: even the CBR250 rear wheel need machining. I've just measured mine tonight and it turns out the cushdrive/sprocket carrier unit is slightly narrower than the stock one, so it has been machined.

[dino3310]

some XR6 junk for some one, looks like some ventura L brackets in there http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Other/auction-308620552.htm

[XF650]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes//auction-296953354.htm

Just out of interest for you XR fanatics, I had a look at this one at the importer's in Methven today. It's as tidy as in the pics & doesn't look like it's ever been off road. They are confident with their price too.

[dino3310]

if i could i would, she looks like a minta and if those miles are correct it would do me till retirement:Punk:

[brp]

Helen - best way to start a pig after its been laid over is to hold the throttle wide open - clears the fuel (Old MX trick)

When I got my bike it had 14/43 sprocket match but was fair revving at 100K's, was going to put smaller sprocket on rear but would have meant breaking the chain and taking a link out cause the chain adjusters were out to their maximum - went for a 15 front instead, 15/43 was the gearing on it when you rode it. If you got the adjustment you could come down to a 43 etc and still be good for off road.
Hear Sam been in good hands with Transalper :Punk:


Few things come across to make owning a pig one of the cheapest rides out to maintain.

Oil filters - scored one of those re-useable stainless steel oil filters on trade me for $40 - made in the states and filters six times more than a paper one. Wash in Kero.

Air Filter - Went to Para rubber and bought some filter foam and then folllowed the Honda manuals lead and soaked it in 80 wt gear oil and squeezed out excess - pulls like the proverbial school boy now :D woken it up Big Time !

Oil - Valvoline - changed every 1500K's - $10 a litre - drained oil feels good when rubbed between fingers :D


(The large second hand tank on Trade me not that cheap at $280 plus courier when can have a brand new Clarke landed for $350 from the states)

[helenoftroy]

We changed from a 14 to a 15 and Sams a very happy boy now!!:yes:
The 15/43 combination seems fine for adventure riding(seal/gravel mix)

Some excellent tips there bout filters & oil thanks brp

[brp]

"You welcome me lady" :D

[centaurus]

Does anybody know who makes custom brake discs in NZ? I have CBR wheels on my BRP but the rear disk is smaller so the rear caliper has been changed. This means I can't easily change from SM to dirt wheels.

I still have the original caliper so I'm trying to find a 240mm disk to fit the CBR rear wheel.

[dino3310]

would it be possible to get one machined or modifeid to fit by an engineer, i could only imagine how expensive it would be to get one made

[cooneyr]

Draw up the design you want in Autocad or similar and get it laser/plasma cut from stainless. Just need to find a place that cuts stainless and figure out what grade stainless is the best one for a brake.

[Squiggles]

Does anybody know who makes custom brake discs in NZ? I have CBR wheels on my BRP but the rear disk is smaller so the rear caliper has been changed. This means I can't easily change from SM to dirt wheels.

I still have the original caliper so I'm trying to find a 240mm disk to fit the CBR rear wheel.

could you not have the dirt rear disk turned down?

[centaurus]

could you not have the dirt rear disk turned down?

The dirt disk has a lot of vent holes in it so I can't cut it. Besides, the dirt brake caliper comes with the plastic protector for the front lower side of the brake disc which is very good when offroad.

[dino3310]

mucked around in the shed this arvo and put a carb kit it the ol girl, first time and piss easy:Punk:
put the stock sizes in and shes running a lot smoother now:yes: dont know why i waited so long to do it, the more i do on this pig the more i like it.:love:

[dino3310]

:drool: classic pig http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-312560194.htm

[Crazy Steve]

:drool: classic pig http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-312560194.htm

31 year old trail bike for $3500 YEAH RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crazy Steve.

[dino3310]

31 year old trail bike for $3500 YEAH RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crazy Steve.

fuck mate you think thats expensive check this puppy out http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-312557882.htm

[dino3310]

216865 guess this means it bullet proof with the superman and ben10 stickers :lol:

[mattsdakar]

Anyone out there got an unwanted oil filter cover panel. (part # 11333-MBN-670)
Stupid me overtightened bolts as still had leakage after doing 1st oil filter change, turns out oil o-ring seal/gasket was stuffed, resulted in panel snapping across just below top bolt...doh!
Have twice tried to need-it the crack to no avail.
Searched on-line wreckers as far as Australia with no luck, have been quoted NZD150+ to tig weld :sick:
Hamptons and Cassbolts in Christchurch don't have one so looks like will have to wait while one is sourced ex-Japan...stink!

[cynna]

Anyone out there got an unwanted oil filter cover panel. (part # 11333-MBN-670)

$116nz from thumpertalk - normally takes a week if its in stock - dont quote me tho. my parts have always been sent quicker then waiting for the honda shop to get them from japan

half that price is postage :angry:

[cooneyr]

.... have been quoted NZD150+ to tig weld :sick:....

That seems a bit rough. I got my DR650 rim rewelded for much less than that. I think it was Austins Aluminium Welding (http://yellow.co.nz/companies/Welders/Austins-Aluminium-Welding-Ltd/100037627_1724.html) that did it. Real old engineering shop - not big on marketing but big on skills.

Cheers R

P.s. assume the cover is alloy and not magnesium or something?

[thepom]

The old guy at austins is pretty good...and friendly and helpful too....

[mattsdakar]

Thanks for the comments guys, I bit the bullet and ordered oil cover and it arrived ex-Japan 10days (Friday) later so I'm back mobile.
Post was just on the off chance that someone had one lying around, was getting sick of pushbiking home in the dark!

[gordons]

In 2008 I imported a new 2007 XR650R (in the crate) from the USA, its standing in my garage for a while now, will I be able to register it for road use in NZ with e.g. a Baja Designs dual sport kit etc. I have all the paperwork of the import etc.
Advise will be welcome.

Shooting off to the AA to hear what they say and will subsequently update the thread.

[centaurus]

In 2008 I imported a new 2007 XR650R (in the crate) from the USA, its standing in my garage for a while now, will I be able to register it for road use in NZ with e.g. a Baja Designs dual sport kit etc. I have all the paperwork of the import etc.
Advise will be welcome.

Shooting off to the AA to hear what they say and will subsequently update the thread.

Been through this process last year. Here in Wellington VTNZ are doing the registration for bikes (the Adelaide rd. branch) and they have a guy that does only mcycles. He gave me all the info I needed. Basically, if the bike model you have, has already been imported for road use by Honda you're sorted. In my case (KLX 300) it was imported only for dirt use and registering it would have been as difficult as registering a custom built machine (ten thousand certifications).

I also re-registered an XR650 a few months ago, but in my case the bike had been previously registered in NZ so it was a breeze.

Even if you're not from Wgtn you can call VTNZ Adelaide and speak to the guy about what's needed to register an imported bike. His name is Jerry and he is very friendly and helpful.

[dino3310]

this is what i needed for my DR650 imported from the USA,
original title (Pink slip)
Bill of laden (shipping documents)
Proof of purchase (links to last registed owner in states)
unfortunately i had neither so it didnt get vinned:angry:
dont forget the brake declaration, would be cheaper if you know a bike shop that does it and get that done before it goes in.

How much US did you get it for?

[gordons]

Basically, if the bike model you have, has already been imported for road use by Honda you're sorted. In my case (KLX 300) it was imported only for dirt use and registering it would have been as difficult as registering a custom built machine (ten thousand certifications).

Did you sell the KLX? Would it have been an expensive exercise to continue? Honda NZ imported the XRR up till 2006 I believe as road legal models with all the road legal bit & pieces from the factory, the 2007 models was off road only but the Baja DS kit meets the road legal std. e.g. SAE, CE, etc. etc., well for America at least. From general enquiry it sounds that I'll will need to get a brake declaration certificate from a Blue Wing Honda or a Honda dealer while it has the exact same brakes than the road legal models up to 2006 (plus, it's a year newer!).


Even if you're not from Wgtn you can call VTNZ Adelaide and speak to the guy about what's needed to register an imported bike. His name is Jerry and he is very friendly and helpful.

Spoke to Jerry, really helpful and pleasant bloke.

[centaurus]

Did you sell the KLX? Would it have been an expensive exercise to continue?

It would have been quite an expensive exercise. I ended up selling it and buying a deregistered XR650 that was registered in NZ at some point - much easier to re-register.

Brake declaration is quite easy to get. As long as you have the standard brakes on, they will only check that parts are not broken and measure the disks thickness.

[centaurus]

Given there are a lot of BRP owners watching this thread, I think this would be the test place to ask this question.

I am planning some big tours (like around australia) and I don't know whether I should kit out my BRP or it would be cheaper to get my hands on an old KLR.

I know the BRP's are reliable bikes and there are aftermarket fuel tanks to increase the range. Even the unconfortable seat is relatively easy/cheap to fix. However, the oil change interval (1000 km) and the weak subframe which drastically limits the amount of luggage are two issues I don't know how to surpass.

At 1000kms between oil changes, I would have to change the oil every day and a half, two days at most.

[dino3310]

I think However, the oil change interval (1000 km) and the weak subframe which drastically limits the amount of luggage are two issues I don't know how to surpass.
At 1000kms between oil changes, I would have to change the oil every day and a half, two days at most.

frame can be re inforced at the weak points so thats no problem but the oil change :blink: carry lots or maybe enlarge the compacity with another oiltank and change it every 3k.
Looks like a ADV thread search time:shifty:

[dino3310]

some links xrl & xrr cant remember where the thread with all the photos of the XRr frame strengthen, i think it was ADV.
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=698887&highlight=gusset
http://corky1.smugmug.com/gallery/6142755_S6tjs#386648998_pC9As
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8505112&postcount=63
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=541826

[dino3310]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-317466358.htm

[spookytooth]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-317466358.htm
Went and had a look at tis one today shes tidy .Does any one know this bike http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-315732821.htm Like what condition is it in ect

[dino3310]

.Does any one know this bike http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-315732821.htm Like what condition is it in ect

Thats been on my watch list forever :lol: and in the comment box ive written BBBBBBBBBBUUUUUUUUUUUYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, but i got no $$$$$:shutup:
have chatterd to the dude via Email, nice old bloke seems genuine but unfortunately havent seen it in the flesh, hopefully it will still be there in a year and i'l buy it:yes::shifty:

[spookytooth]

it seems to have been on there a while now.Is there alot of difference between the R and L models? besides the leky start and water cooling. I havent owned a thumper since i sold my old prolink back in the early eightys

[dino3310]

it seems to have been on there a while now.Is there alot of difference between the R and L models? besides the leky start and water cooling. I havent owned a thumper since i sold my old prolink back in the early eightys

the 600r and 650l?... lecky, carb,1st 2nd gear, weight,cubes. most things compatable very alike.
the 650l and 650r?.... different bike all together Rs got the alloy frame and everything more an enduro bias including power

[spookytooth]

Yea i ment the diff between the r and l 650's

[tri boy]

Homo's ride 650r's.
Cool coonts ride 650l's.:sunny:

[spookytooth]

was thinking the L was for ladys bike :)

[Box'a'bits]

Homo's ride 650r's.
Cool coonts ride 650l's.:sunny:
So to recap - Homos ride 650Rs. And frigid women ride 650L? What did you ride again???:confused::confused:

[dino3310]

for ADV i'd prefer the L over the R, but i would hands down have the R for super motard:Punk: .
you can add a kickstart to the L to make it more manly :whistle:

[dino3310]

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=829540

man leg:shutup:

[tri boy]

What did you ride again???:confused::confused:

I'm a slut. I ride whatever I can:scooter:

[cynna]

you can add a kickstart to the L to make it more manly :whistle:

i want to add an electric start to my R to make it more girly. poor old knees are getting worn out

[dino3310]

i want to add an electric start to my R to make it more girly.

but then we would call it an LC4 :rofl:

[mattsdakar]

Hey fellow pig owners,
Any tips for changing rings, bike has now clocked up 36000km and developing a thirst for the black stuff. Any tips and or suggestions. I intend replacing rings and gudgeon pin and checking valves,piston and barrell for scouring anything else worth replacing while I'm in there??
Cheers in advance Matt

[cooneyr]

My no 1 piece of advise is don't drop a gudgeon circlip into the gearbox :angry2: Stuff a rag in around the conrod before you remove the piston! Let's just say that my 91 XR250 is gonna have a mint engine and gearbox by the time I get it back together assuming I don't cock it up :sweatdrop

Top end work is pretty easy but I'd be lapping in the valves and replacing the valve guide seals while there. I'd also measuring the piston and bore and checking if it's time for a new piston too.

Your welcome to come and have a look at a 250's motor in bits for inspiration.

Cheers R

[dino3310]

a KB mechanic helped me out with my engine makeover so i cant really over advise except if you need to helicoil the sump bolt DONT lose the tag in the sump:whistle:

[mattsdakar]

[QUOTE=cooneyr;1129861814]My no 1 piece of advise is don't drop a gudgeon circlip into the gearbox :angry2: Stuff a rag in around the conrod before you remove the piston! Let's just say that my 91 XR250 is gonna have a mint engine and gearbox by the time I get it back together assuming I don't cock it up :sweatdrop

Top end work is pretty easy but I'd be lapping in the valves and replacing the valve guide seals while there. I'd also measuring the piston and bore and checking if it's time for a new piston too.

Cheers Ryan,
Just awaiting a Clymer manual to arrive before I break into the motor, wanted to check what piston measurements were before ordering anything in case it is still within spec :yeah:
I'm a bit of a novice at mechanics but hey there's only one way to learn. Luckily I have an engineer next door, calling Alf, come in Alf!
Want that engine nice and tight for the Dusty Butt!

[cynna]

[QUOTE=mattsdakar;1129862820Just awaiting a Clymer manual to arrive before I break into the motor, wanted to check what piston measurements were before ordering anything in case it is still within spec :yeah:
[/QUOTE]

Matt - heres an online manual while you wait for yours to arrive

http://xr650r.barbershack.com/XR650R/Honda_XR650R_manual.pdf

[mattsdakar]

Cheers Col,
Having problems opening the link but will hopefully work it out!
Rgds

[Buddha#81]

Hey Matt, before starting talk to Brendan at Honda Country in Ashburton. He is a guru on the 650 and knows what works and doesn't, talk to him they may even have some hot pistons and cams going cheap?

[cynna]

Cheers Col,
Having problems opening the link but will hopefully work it out!
Rgds

just clicked it and it works for me - took a while for it to come up tho. might take ages if you have dial up

[mattsdakar]

Got my Clymer manual a week after ordering..was approx $60...not bad
Let the f*%k-ups begin!!!

[cynna]

Do you guys run stock gearing on your XRs?

Sams has had rego on hold & been just used for motocross/offroad stuff by previous owner.Its awesome in the technical stuff but has no legs on the seal

We haven't checked yet but it could be running on 13/50

Do you stay with 14/48 or go to a 15?

Sorry bout the questions but shes all new for us!

better late then never - just found this spreadsheet for the xr gearing

http://www.honda-xr650r.com/honda-xr650r-gearing-calculator-what-gearing-to-use/

stock is 14/48 and on the brp site it says aust xrs came out with 15/41 which according to the spreadsheet increases top speed quite a bit

not too sure what to do - im prob going back to the 14/48

[dino3310]

the XR6 stock gearing is 14/48 too, but im running a 14/45 and chuck on a 15 for some highway legs, its my compremise between trail and road gearing so it kinda geared for metal:Punk:

[cynna]

the aust xrs came out with different gearing to pass the ADR rules

currently running 13/45 which is too slow on the open road - the 14/45 i used to use was more suitable for me so looks like i will go back to that

look like you cant run a 15t on the xr650r with the stock case saver - is that true for those that have a 15 on the front?

[Buddha#81]

the aust xrs came out with different gearing to pass the ADR rules

currently running 13/45 which is too slow on the open road - the 14/45 i used to use was more suitable for me so looks like i will go back to that

look like you cant run a 15t on the xr650r with the stock case saver - is that true for those that have a 15 on the front?

I'm running 15/39 and bounces off the revlimiter at a true 167kph. The case saver is still there but had to grind it off just behind the bottom mounting bolt

[mattsdakar]

I run 13/48 on the dirt and 15/45 on my motards, this combo allows me to change wheels without mucking around with chain length, I haven't notice the 15t rubbing on the case saver, but better check actually as I've only just fitted it 20km's ago

[Cary]

Need a new indicator/light switch block(LHS) any recommendations?

[dino3310]

Need a new indicator/light switch block(LHS) any recommendations?

trade me .

[dino3310]

any1 upgraded there lighting....XR frontlights really suck.
Any kinda bulb replacement to upgrade it or make it better with out upgrading the stator

[dino3310]

http://www.rickystator.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=xr600r&x=11&y=11

:drool:

[Buddha#81]

Hows the rebuild going Matt?

[mattsdakar]

Hows the rebuild going Matt?

I'm stuck somewhere between lack of money and lack of time

Problem also it's my everyday ride so when it's in bits I'm on the push bike
I'm doing a South island loop next month with some mates including Big River and New Creek and Dunstan trail so will probably be after that

[thepom]

As long as you give the route and some pictures too....

[Buddha#81]

Blown a fork seal, can someone with a manual give me fork grade and quantity of oil? Lucky I found this two weeks out from Greymouth!!!

[dino3310]

Blown a fork seal, can someone with a manual give me fork grade and quantity of oil? Lucky I found this two weeks out from Greymouth!!!

http://xr650r.barbershack.com/XR650R/Honda_XR650R_manual.pdf

[mattsdakar]

Blown a fork seal, can someone with a manual give me fork grade and quantity of oil? Lucky I found this two weeks out from Greymouth!!!

Hey Brent,
As mentioned I now have a Clymer XR650R manual, which incidently you are welcome to borrow (I owe you).

As per manual: Pro Honda HP 5wt or equivalent
Front fork oil capacity - 637ml
Front fork oil level - standard 120mm
Minimum 90mm
maximum 155mm

Hope that helps
Rgds

[cooneyr]

Blown a fork seal, can someone with a manual give me fork grade and quantity of oil? Lucky I found this two weeks out from Greymouth!!!

Set the level (forks fully compressed and no springs), don't worry about the quantity. Make sure you pump the forks to fully bleed them. Have a look at this vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glG3gUjxjEU&feature=player_embedded). For KTM forks but the XR's are cartridge as well.

[Buddha#81]

Other than oil changes Ive been lacking in the maintenance department on the pig. Idle has been a bit "fluffy" lately so reset valve clearances last night and inlets have obviously streched (just like the DRZ) with the excessive revs its pulling on the track (main straight at ruapuna its on the rev limiter) It now starts so much easier and idles stong and even (funny that)

Question is, anyone found a 16 tooth front? They dont seem to be avaliable. I'm going to look into if the 600, dominators etc have the same spline and turn the spacer part off an old one to see if I can fit a 16.....will keep you all posted (not that anyone will probally need a 16, but im limited to rear sprocket due to the wheels im running).

[NordieBoy]

A JT Sprockets JTF437 (DR Big) is available in 14-15-16 but is narrower on the spline.
Could be spaced to the XR's 13mm.

I'm running one of the 16's on the DR650.


EDIT: Aaaannnnddd I was wrong. The XR one may fit the DR but the DR one won't fit the XR...

[dino3310]

(main straight at ruapuna its on the rev limiter) .

how fast is that on BRP?

dunno bout the 16, didnt think one would fit

[dino3310]

anyone got any decomp parts they wanna flick

[Buddha#81]

how fast is that on BRP?

dunno bout the 16, didnt think one would fit

I got a vapor digital dash and im guessing it fairly accurate and I had 167 indicating so (and it will fit without the casesaver) i'm in hope of not really gaining top speed but to drop my rpm down and not have to roll off the throttle 2/3 down the straight. it will defently pull the higher gearing, be happy with 170 on a stock BRP. It will be nice to not see the red flashing LED "over rev" nutting off at me.

I looked on the JT sprocket site today and found a 650 dominator one 16 tooth but for a 525 chain so im going to see if they are avaliable and machine it to 520 width.

Yesterday I ordered a 13 front which will allow me to pull wheelies at will at Greymouth and make the offroad section a bit more bareable.

[dino3310]

im liking the sound of that :Punk:

[dino3310]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-324569035.htm

i was thinkin, 22ltr acerbis, tag bars with 1 1/2" risers andys racks and universal mini screen and youve got the altimate adventure bike for just over 10k, only 2 years old, 6k and good for another 20 years. she should handle heated grips and a gps too.

what ya reckon :cool:

[Buddha#81]

For those that are interested in running a 16tooth front, they do fit.......just, no way of running the case saver!!!! But the XL600V has the same spline and offset mounting bolt system but it is a 525 (pt no. JTF296-16) so i'm skimming 1.5 mm off the sprocket to make it a 520, i'll post photos and report on how it goes at the end of next month we it goes back to Ruapuna full track.

The JT sprocket website is great for there drawings and worth a look if you are trying to find a curlie.:yes:

As a side note Budjet Motorcycle spares found me a 13 tooth front which JT, Honda and most others dont list.....so ive managed to now obtain 13 to 16 for anything that pops up!

[dino3310]

awesome mate thats a bloody good range of gearing, wish i could get a 16 on the 6 that would really open up her legs

[Buddha#81]

awesome mate thats a bloody good range of gearing, wish i could get a 16 on the 6 that would really open up her legs

Well JT list one http://www.jtsprockets.com/52.0.html?&L=0&sel_uid=4880&p=

[dino3310]

wrong model bro diferent spline, already removed case saver for the 15, a 16 (if possible)would prolly be rubbing the stator wiring
http://www.jtsprockets.com/52.0.html?&L=0&sel_uid=770&p=

[Buddha#81]

wrong model bro diferent spline, already removed case saver for the 15, a 16 (if possible)would prolly be rubbing the stator wiring
http://www.jtsprockets.com/52.0.html?&L=0&sel_uid=770&p=

Same spline as the BRP and XL600Tansalp.....which is what I'm modding to suit go on give it a go! http://www.jtsprockets.com/52.0.html?&L=0&sel_uid=4878&p=

[dino3310]

Same spline as the BRP and XL600Tansalp.....which is what I'm modding to suit go on give it a go! http://www.jtsprockets.com/52.0.html?&L=0&sel_uid=4878&p=

after you get yours on bro i'l get you to give me a o/d measurement with the chain on..
just had a closer look at mine and with the 15 on i only got about 8-10mm till i rubbing the casing.

[dino3310]

after you get yours on bro i'l get you to give me a o/d measurement with the chain on..
just had a closer look at mine and with the 15 on i only got about 8-10mm till i rubbing the casing.

yeah naaa never mind, i just put the 15 back on and theres bout 5mm to play with, might just get another 42 rear and swap back to the 48 for trails etc.

anyone useing the Notoil air filter stuff.... how do you clean the shit out, gas dont move it, would i have to get some of the notoil cleaner as well? what are you fellas using?
i think i read some pages back about using gear oil :blink:

[pete376403]

According to the JT website the Honda spline is the same as the KLR650 - there are 16 (and 17!) T front sprockets available from various sources (but not JT) for KLRs

[dino3310]

me and the Pig havin a few :woohoo::facepalm:
222071

[tri boy]

Pig owners don't own Calvin Klein T-shirts:facepalm:
Go out the back and slap yourself:sunny:

[dino3310]

well other than the XR fetish i still have some style:blink:

[Waihou Thumper]

It's okay, it is a knock off from Bali...lol
So..did she turn it up for ya?....Or you need a few more brews to ride her...:woohoo:
Beer goggles...another one or six and she became a KTM.....:facepalm:

[dino3310]

It's okay, it is a knock off from Bali...lol
So..did she turn it up for ya?....Or you need a few more brews to ride her...:woohoo:
Beer goggles...another one or six and she became a KTM.....:facepalm:


NOOOOOOOOOOO....
another one or six and she'll look like a 650r :Punk:

[Buddha#81]

16 tooth front sprocket sorted (machined to suit 520) and a drag session tonight at Ruapuna......money on 1/4 times for a BRP (std engine)? whos got a KLR and a DR for comparison?

[NordieBoy]

16 tooth front sprocket sorted (machined to suit 520) and a drag session tonight at Ruapuna......money on 1/4 times for a BRP (std engine)? whos got a KLR and a DR for comparison?

13.5-13.8s?

Depends if the rider is any good really :shutup:

DR should go 14.2-14.5 stock?
KLR?

[Buddha#81]

13.5-13.8s?

Depends if the rider is any good really :shutup:

DR should go 14.2-14.5 stock?
KLR?

Fark....thats hopefull....the riders Shit!!!!!:gob: I dont thik a XR would be a second faster than a DR?

[dino3310]

13.9:corn:

[marks]

DR should go 14.2-14.5 stock?
KLR?

its already been clearly established in the DR650 thread that a KLR will wiz all over a dr in a straight line :woohoo:

[Buddha#81]

Sorry guys no timing gear but it is faster than a harley, ZZR250 and a triumph scrambler, we had a open track session at the end and its added 7ish kph to the top speed and would probally pull a 17. The 16tooth fits well with the case saver in place.....I'd call that a win!

[dino3310]

as long as your faster than a harley mate its all good:woohoo:

[helenoftroy]

Sorry guys no timing gear but it is faster than a harley, ZZR250 and a triumph scrambler, we had a open track session at the end and its added 7ish kph to the top speed and would probally pull a 17. The 16tooth fits well with the case saver in place.....I'd call that a win!

Damm!missed it!

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Good on ya Buddha - Pigs can fly:devil2:

[NordieBoy]

Sorry guys no timing gear but it is faster than a harley, ZZR250 and a triumph scrambler.

Then it was all for nought :facepalm:

Next time remember...

1 mississippi, 2 mississippi, 3 mississippi, 4 mississippi, 5 mississippi...

[Waihou Thumper]

Apart from the fact it is expensive.....Looks okay, quite like the colour scheme and those anodised rims...

Well Dino, what ya Reckon mate?

222409

[dino3310]

Apart from the fact it is expensive.....Looks okay, quite like the colour scheme and those anodised rims...

Well Dino, what ya Reckon mate?

222409

no good for you bro, its kick start only :rofl:


But naa its waaaaay over priced, theres FA extras, mines worth more than that just not as pretty :laugh:

[vmk]

Me leaving the country, 2004 XR650R for sale. PM for details if you are interested.

[mattsdakar]

Photo's plse, how much you asking?

[vmk]

Here you go, more info and lets see what the price is:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-330791199.htm

[helenoftroy]

We need some advise on getting Sams XR sorted for the Dusty Butt

Any ideas for a rack so he can carry stuff?-wondering what you are going to do mattsdakar and where you got your rack from cynna

[mattsdakar]

Hi Helen,
My bike's previous owner works with stainless steel and made the rack for it and had a matching bag/pack custom made for the rack
I have a flat aluminium plate that I use to screw on on to my DRZ's mudguard that Sam can have if he wants, I just bungy a bike bag to it. He would need to drill a few holes in his mudguard to attach it though.
I believe Cynna imported his rack from the states
Rgds Matt

[helenoftroy]

Hi Helen,
My bike's previous owner works with stainless steel and made the rack for it and had a matching bag/pack custom made for the rack
I have a flat aluminium plate that I use to screw on on to my DRZ's mudguard that Sam can have if he wants, I just bungy a bike bag to it. He would need to drill a few holes in his mudguard to attach it though.
I believe Cynna imported his rack from the states
Rgds Matt

Matt - the plate might suit Sam perfectly, will talk to him and he might be in touch....

[mattsdakar]

Matt - the plate might suit Sam perfectly, will talk to him and he might be in touch....

Maybe Alf can drop it off when he picks his topbox up!!!

[helenoftroy]

Maybe Alf can drop it off when he picks his topbox up!!!

True!its been patiently waiting since the last DB!:wait::wait::wait:

[cynna]

heres the one i got from ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-XR650R-Dual-Sport-rack-XR-650-XR650-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4154201f26QQitemZ28058 4265510QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

just have to watch how much weight you put on it as the xr hasnt got the strongest subframe. i manage to bungy my bag, tent, sleeping bag and sleeping mat to it with no problem

[helenoftroy]

heres the one i got from ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-XR650R-Dual-Sport-rack-XR-650-XR650-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4154201f26QQitemZ28058 4265510QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

just have to watch how much weight you put on it as the xr hasnt got the strongest subframe. i manage to bungy my bag, tent, sleeping bag and sleeping mat to it with no problem
Thanks cynna!

[dino3310]

this shit just buzzes me out,
The mighty Johnny Cambell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmTX734VIOk

[NordieBoy]

this shit just buzzes me out,
The mighty Johnny Cambell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmTX734VIOk

On a little XR600 :woohoo:

[dino3310]

On a little XR600 :woohoo:

its quite inspiring watching the 6 get put through it paces like that, my nuts grew a little after watchin some Baja footage :rofl:

[Waihou Thumper]

even this is a little too old.....But at least it has been done up aye....
Heaps of power to run away from the Bro's back then....:)

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[NordieBoy]

even this is a little too old.....But at least it has been done up aye....
Heaps of power to run away from the Bro's back then....:)

It's a forgery!

[bart]

even this is a little too old.....But at least it has been done up aye....
Heaps of power to run away from the Bro's back then....:)

224143

Nah, it's the real deal. My great grandfather had one of those. :shutup:

[dino3310]

well the XRs are ahead of there time

[dino3310]

oh bugger Honda's kicked arse at the Baja, suprise surprise :rofl:

oh and the man from the XR600 vid was in the winning team woop woop:woohoo:

Pro Motorcycles:
1. Kendall Norman, Santa Barbara, Calif./Quinn Cody, Buellton, Calif./Johnny Campbell, San Clemente, Calif., Honda CRF450X, 19:20:52 (54.87 mph) (Class 22)

:Punk::Punk::Punk:

[dino3310]

XRs are cool 225301225302 and they go like fuck

[junkmanjoe]

very flash seat cover there dino mate..........your ride is looking trick now days..

JMJ

[dino3310]

naa not trick just clean bro :laugh:

[mattsdakar]

naa not trick just clean bro :laugh:

Hey Dino,
I see a wossner sticker on your headlight shroud, have you put one of their pistons in your XR and if so what do you think?
I'm looking at putting new rings in my XR soon but haven't found anyone who has OEM rings here in NZ, might have to import from Japan.
If piston needs replacing I have seen Wossner pistons advertised on trademe thru motoworx so was thinking of getting one from them, your thoughts??
Cheers Matt

[dino3310]

For quality i dont think you can beat the Wossner, The dude at waikato motor reconditions said it was an empressive looking piston of high quality. i think its great ive had no problems with it and they support all the oversize up to 5mm os:gob: . i got mine from these guys http://www.motoxparts.co.nz/motoxspares.php?brand=107&category=93 it worked out cheaper than ordering from the states as these guys did a bulk order every couple of months, plus it was a shit load cheaper and better quality than the Honda slug. this is just IMHO.

Sooo yeah bro good piston:yes:, got sick of bluewing $$$$$ and time. the bloke at motoxparts is good for a chat he knows his shit so hes got some good advice...

[dino3310]

heres the wossner site http://wossneronline.com/forged_pistons/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=50_52_61_87&products_id=415&zenid=4b33719b6a08c9aa796b69a84215a451

[mattsdakar]

For quality i dont think you can beat the Wossner, The dude at waikato motor reconditions said it was an empressive looking piston of high quality. i think its great ive had no problems with it and they support all the oversize up to 5mm os:gob: . i got mine from these guys http://www.motoxparts.co.nz/motoxspares.php?brand=107&category=93 it worked out cheaper than ordering from the states as these guys did a bulk order every couple of months, plus it was a shit load cheaper and better quality than the Honda slug. this is just IMHO.

Sooo yeah bro good piston:yes:, got sick of bluewing $$$$$ and time. the bloke at motoxparts is good for a chat he knows his shit so hes got some good advice...

Thanks for the info Dino, I'll soon crack the engine casing and see what's in my box of choco:sweatdroplates!
Out of interest did you replace camchain and intakes valves and if so where did you get them?

[dino3310]

camchain was done around 4k before rebuild, will look at vavles maybe in another 10,000kms. most of the bits n pieces are from bike bandits, but some of the seals and bearings i sorced local and of course the wossner from MXparts. Actually mate i recall from memory that he had ordered more XR pistons as there were a few popping up on terdme, he might still have some in stock.

[mattsdakar]

camchain was done around 4k before rebuild, will look at vavles maybe in another 10,000kms. most of the bits n pieces are from bike bandits, but some of the seals and bearings i sorced local and of course the wossner from MXparts. Actually mate i recall from memory that he had ordered more XR pistons as there were a few popping up on terdme, he might still have some in stock.

I have been emailing motoxparts this week, he does have wossner piston and rings in stock now, problem is I'm not sure whether I need a new piston til I open her up, might only need new rings. They don't stock rings to fit OEM piston.
The other worry is that it is using a bit of oil yet nil blue exhaust smoke so may not be rings???

[dino3310]

mmmmmmmmmmmm yep ok ahhhh mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 225423 will sleep on it and no doubt all will be revealed in a dream, then i'l get up and post about 3am :laugh:

[tri boy]

The other worry is that it is using a bit of oil yet nil blue exhaust smoke so may not be rings???

Oil leak/ case venting oil mist into airbox, or possibly valve guide seals, (the later normally shows up as a bit smoky first thing from cold though.
Wossners are good/great, but if you use one tell the machinist to bore to the EXACT wossner specs. They have a different clearance requirement than Wiseco etc. MHO

[cooneyr]

Oil leak/ case venting oil mist into airbox, ......

That rings a bell cause guys grab the crankcase breather oil separator (plastic conical thingame) from the XR650R and stick it on the KTM 950's. They suffer from a minor version of this issue. Have a look in your airbox and make sure it is not got engine oil in it.

[mattsdakar]

That rings a bell cause guys grab the crankcase breather oil separator (plastic conical thingame) from the XR650R and stick it on the KTM 950's. They suffer from a minor version of this issue. Have a look in your airbox and make sure it is not got engine oil in it.
.
Definitely no oil in airbox but spark plug gets pretty oily so can only really be the rings yet it doesn't blow any smoke even under hard accleration??
Would use 200-300mls of oil on a 4-5hour ride
Nothing to get to worried about at this stage and will probably wait to after the Dusty Butt before I open her up.
Bike has done close to 40,000km on original piston and rings so is due for some work

[dino3310]

you'l be sweet mate those KLRs carry extra oil

[Buddha#81]

.
Definitely no oil in airbox but spark plug gets pretty oily so can only really be the rings yet it doesn't blow any smoke even under hard accleration??
Would use 200-300mls of oil on a 4-5hour ride
Nothing to get to worried about at this stage and will probably wait to after the Dusty Butt before I open her up.
Bike has done close to 40,000km on original piston and rings so is due for some work

Ummmm Matt, it was a bit smokey at the HAGD, just before it digested its air filter! mainly on over run. Mines the same but 1/2 your oil consumtion and no oily plug. Talking to Brendan at Honda Country (know these things inside out) told me that they will use oil and will only become an issue when they start showing metal in the filter. I'm living life to that rule and on his advice have gone to a cheap mineral oil and are doing it every 2nd race meet or 1000km.....oil consumption dropped on mineral.

[mattsdakar]

Ummmm Matt, it was a bit smokey at the HAGD, just before it digested its air filter! mainly on over run. Mines the same but 1/2 your oil consumtion and no oily plug. Talking to Brendan at Honda Country (know these things inside out) told me that they will use oil and will only become an issue when they start showing metal in the filter. I'm living life to that rule and on his advice have gone to a cheap mineral oil and are doing it every 2nd race meet or 1000km.....oil consumption dropped on mineral.

Cheers Brent, thankfully no metal in filter thus far, a few people have told me XR's use a bit of oil so I'm not that concerned, have ordered a top end gasket set and going to go with the Wossner piston and will hold on to them til I get a chance to "do the deed"!
Are you still going to do the DUsty Butt, haven't seen your name on the registration?

[Buddha#81]

Are you still going to do the DUsty Butt, haven't seen your name on the registration?

I have just been waiting for the planets to align.......95% yes at this stage. :yes:

[helenoftroy]

I have just been waiting for the planets to align.......95% yes at this stage. :yes:
Well give them a nudge and get on with it!!:kick:

you know you want too....:msn-wink:

[Buddha#81]

Well give them a nudge and get on with it!!:kick:

you know you want too....:msn-wink:

shuddup you.....just confirmed on the official thread!

[helenoftroy]

shuddup you.....just confirmed on the official thread!
:bleh:

thats 4 BRPs I think!:woohoo:

[mattsdakar]

Quite a nice XR650R for sale in Golden Bay if anyone is interested (not mine)!
$6000 lots of work done


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-339273027.htm

[dino3310]

what do you fellas reckon about these on the air heads :corn: http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=338072021

[dino3310]

nothing to do with the XR but i thought it was just Funny
http://www.maxmotorcyclevideos.com/mediaviewer/13/triple-jump-gone-wrong.html

[dino3310]

XR6 rally :drool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igVno383bFQ

http://www.4strokes.com/guests/uploadpics/HondaXR600R1.jpg

[cooneyr]

XR6 rally :drool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igVno383bFQ

http://www.4strokes.com/guests/uploadpics/HondaXR600R1.jpg

http://www.4strokes.com/guests/uploadpics/HondaXR600R1.jpg

Thats nice. Jmo from Advrider did a XR650R in similar style for the Heros back in 2008 (or there abouts).

[NordieBoy]

Thats nice. Jmo from Advrider did a XR650R in similar style for the Heros back in 2008 (or there abouts).

She also put electric start on it :yes:

[dino3310]

any links too it, wouldnt mind looking at a few different builds for ideas

[helenoftroy]

She also put electric start on it :yes:

Wish my boys (Casualty) had electric start:weep:

Incredibly frustrating to have the beast sitting in the garage poking its tongue out at me:bleh:....and whispering "go on,you know you want to....":msn-wink:

[dino3310]

:lol: i know the feeling, my right legs in a moon boot :facepalm: i might look at a rolling start down the driveway :laugh:

[NordieBoy]

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14361669&postcount=36

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[dino3310]

wickedly awesome, cheers Fran

[dino3310]

13 - 17 teeth front sprocketts http://shop.pbisprockets.com/product.sc?productId=72&categoryId=-1

[mattsdakar]

13 - 17 teeth front sprocketts http://shop.pbisprockets.com/product.sc?productId=72&categoryId=-1

Where the hell would you fit a 17 tooth front sprocket!!!!
Wouldn't have thought would fit even with casesaver removed?

[dino3310]

thats what i thought:gob:
i see on the XR6 they got one down to 12 teeth, never thought it could go so small as the chains almost touching the locking plate with a 13

[dino3310]

anyone know anything about this bike (links etc), i wanna get a screen and set up simular to this....
just imagine the 6 looking like this but with out the rear tanks :drool:
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[mattsdakar]

anyone know anything about this bike (links etc), i wanna get a screen and set up simular to this....
just imagine the 6 looking like this but with out the rear tanks :drool:
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Mine is a one off by previous owner, powder coated stainless, top piece of tinted screen is off a wrecked BMW Dakar, it's great takes all the wind off my chests and leaves plenty of room in the cockpit for roll chart, hotgrips, MP3 etc. Headlight is plastic and very light off a car

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[dino3310]

awesome cheers mate thats what im looking for, atleast now i know how to mount it.:woohoo:
now i just gotta build it:facepalm: and no doubt my first atemp will be crooked :lol:

[mattsdakar]

awesome cheers mate thats what im looking for, atleast now i know how to mount it.:woohoo:
now i just gotta build it:facepalm: and no doubt my first atemp will be crooked :lol:

If you are serious about making one up I'll take some closeups on the mounts etc if you like

[dino3310]

If you are serious about making one up I'll take some closeups on the mounts etc if you like

yes please that would be good....
got a couple more weeks off work so i might as well give it a go while i got some time:yes:

fark you up for work that early

[Buddha#81]

Where the hell would you fit a 17 tooth front sprocket!!!!
Wouldn't have thought would fit even with casesaver removed?

Yup it'll fit, I'm running a 16 with the case saver, I need to go to 17 for track use.......hmmmmmm

[mattsdakar]

yes please that would be good....
got a couple more weeks off work so i might as well give it a go while i got some time:yes:

fark you up for work that early

I'll post some photo's in the next couple of days, and yes the joys of shift work!!

[dino3310]

I'll post some photo's in the next couple of days, and yes the joys of shift work!!

cheers mate

[mattsdakar]

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yes please that would be good....
got a couple more weeks off work so i might as well give it a go while i got some time:yes:

fark you up for work that early

Here you go Dino,



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[dino3310]

wicked bro thats awesome,thats just what i needed.

many thanks....

[dino3310]

shite they importing them with gold cams http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-346273432.htm beaut looking bike

[tri boy]

That leccy start is worth it's weight in gold,
Especially if you have a sore foot:lol:
(going out to the garage to stroke my leopard skin seat cover one more time):love:

[dino3310]

yeah go for a stroke ya biatch:bleh:

[dino3310]

oh well i made a start today, took stuff off and got a heap of measurement, made a couple of temp brackets and started a cardboard mock up, i wanna get it measurements right before i buy some sheet metal, farrkkk that alluminuim is expensive, will see what i can get.... Hey matt how thick is that stainless on yours? is it very heavy:msn-wink:
a work in progress
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[dino3310]

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[dino3310]

still gotta shape it yet
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[mattsdakar]

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oh well i made a start today, took stuff off and got a heap of measurement, made a couple of temp brackets and started a cardboard mock up, i wanna get it measurements right before i buy some sheet metal, farrkkk that alluminuim is expensive, will see what i can get.... Hey matt how thick is that stainless on yours? is it very heavy:msn-wink:
a work in progress
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Umm not sure of thickness but know it is made of stainless so heavier than alloy.
Looking good so far, in regard to my headlight, my stator has also been re-wound giving it more herbs to run a much brighter car headlight, not sure what light you had in mind
Attached is another couple of shots showing how my fairing is attached at the bottom, it isn't attached using mudguard bolt holes as per your idea
As per the second shot, originally when I got the bike the bolts lined up but I decided to drop the forks in the clamps about an inch which resulted in the headlight pointing to low. To compensate I drilled out a couple of chain links to tilt the screen back a bit more raising the angle of the light again if you get my drift.
Let me know if you would like some more shots or measurements
Rgds Matt

[dino3310]

Umm not sure of thickness but know it is made of stainless so heavier than alloy.
Looking good so far, in regard to my headlight, my stator has also been re-wound giving it more herbs to run a much brighter car headlight, not sure what light you had in mind

not sure on light either:blank: will see whats around and what gonna fit when im finished. eventually i'll get a ricky stator over from the states, unless i can find a cheaper rewind option either way i gotta save for that, i still got the original XR square light i could use... dunno yet, lots of options and lots of lights on trade me:scratch: , might even go H.I.D:eek:
ive still got the set on her now to put back on if i aint finished by the time the legs ready to ride, plus i'll keep the old stuff for mx tracks and ruff stuff.

[mattsdakar]

not sure on light either:blank: will see whats around and what gonna fit when im finished. eventually i'll get a ricky stator over from the states, unless i can find a cheaper rewind option either way i gotta save for that, i still got the original XR square light i could use... dunno yet, lots of options and lots of lights on trade me:scratch: , might even go H.I.D:eek:
ive still got the set on her now to put back on if i aint finished by the time the legs ready to ride, plus i'll keep the old stuff for mx tracks and ruff stuff.

I wouldn't bother with the old XR light, just not bright enough and given the trouble you are going to I would suggest buying the light first and designing the fairing around it might save you in the long run, the old Do it once, do it right" philosophy! :scratch:

Here's another couple of angles

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[dino3310]

yeah i know what you mean.. thats a clever bit on the bottom mounts, mines a little different so im just going with the guard mounts.
as for the light im going to NOT gonna cut the hole out till i know whats going in.
for now im not to worried about output its just the buffeting on trips thats f#@ks me and that extra storage for the camera/map or lunch would be awesome.
when i can afford the stator upgrade i'll upgrade the lighting output even a 65watt in the old light would improve it 100%.
eventually (like a year or so) would like to have a lcd speedo, better lighting, gps and maybe a roll chart,.
o and an oil cooler mounted on the bottom of it:D

[NordieBoy]

shite they importing them with gold cams http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-346273432.htm beaut looking bike

Wow.

That's more like a $6000 bike on a good day with the wind behind it.

[dino3310]

i reckon mate shes pretty expensive for a 2 yr old bike

[junkmanjoe]

hay nummy...........ya for got ya head light hole.........:bleh:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=228586&d=1294708453

[dino3310]

hay nummy...........ya for got ya head light hole.........:bleh:

[[/IMG]

naa mate we tuff buggas up here we dont use lights:apumpin:

[dino3310]

heres where its at so far, 1st prototype
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[dino3310]

there will be a clear screen to add to it.
might change the bottom mount to the fork clamp so theres room for an oil cooler later on maybe, and shes pretty wide at 250mm so might narrow her up to 210mm to align with forks and fork mounts..... might increase mount bracket height for strength...
will make another tomorrow... any other ideas to add

[mattsdakar]

there will be a clear screen to add to it.
might change the bottom mount to the fork clamp so theres room for an oil cooler later on maybe, and shes pretty wide at 250mm so might narrow her up to 210mm to align with forks and fork mounts..... might increase mount bracket height for strength...
will make another tomorrow... any other ideas to add

Looking good but again I think you need to sort out headlight before spending $$$ on alloy. Need to consider depth of light internals, width of light and is face plate at 90 degrees to ground so beam will be straight ahead? Looks at the moment like light would be pointed straight at your front guard as opposed to road.
Don't forget indicator mounts

[dino3310]

start No2 prototype tomorrow which will iron out some of that, this is fun, wish i had more time.