Made a texting SOAB fall off his scooter

[breakaway]

I'm in agreement with what speeding_ant said. I would have stopped, but it's understandable he didn't, because of the aforementioned infringements

Having a bike license should be made a requirement if you intend to ride any roadworthy scooter / moped / bike on a public road.

[Shaun]

I cannot understand how any one riding an illegal bike would come on to a biker site and rant about making another rider crash? This one has to be the best I have ever read on here.

Did you think or have you thought that you may have seriously hurt this person

[speeding_ant]

I cannot understand how any one riding an illegal bike would come on to a biker site and rant about making another rider crash? This one has to be the best I have ever read on here.

Did you think or have you thought that you may have seriously hurt this person

Hmm... I thought this was supposed to be a community. I hardly consider a scooter rider (who texts, doesnt use indicators and has no brake lights) a rider at all. I will call them plain stupid. Also, I am not ranting. I am simply telling a story. You can comment on the story if you so wish.

If you read my report on the situation you would have noticed that I did pass back again to see if he was OK. He was already on his scooter and it was running. So, no? I dont think he was hurt at all.

The airhorn is only there to protect me, and me only. I was being responsible with the horn and I was using it in the right situation.

Sometimes I think some people worry more about enforcing their morals onto others, instead of viewing the whole picture. I really hope people are not judging my character/riding abilities due to this post... The bike is now legal, by the way.

Big ups to the people who supported my decisions, and I shall take constructive criticism from *some* of the posts.

[Forest]

Made a texting SOAB fall off his scooter

You are pathetic.

[Big Dog]

Horns are for fags. The day i use mine is the day i wake up, find myself in bed with a guy and find out on the same day i cant ride.
With the time you spend using your horn, I've already avoided the incident, and am back into riding.
If you really feel you need to be heard get a pipe.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=39375

[ICE180]

Well if he was wearing gloves he would have not been able to text.

So i guess that this would sum up the rider on the scooter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[speeding_ant]

You are pathetic.

Is it just me or is there a really negative vibe on KB

[Shaun]

Is it just me or is there a really negative vibe on KB

Not really a negative vibe, more like a freedom of speech thing, as this is a community, and I am sure you realise that opinions will differ

[avgas]

I see myself as an aware, safe rider.

I think you are missing the key point here, did you or did you not require a swerve to avoid an object in front of you.
Rule 1 : Assume everything on the road will jump out and try and kill you. This will save you from kids, dogs, cats, cars and yes also scooters.
What if that scooter was a truck, and it suddenly slammed on its brakes? Where would go then. I'm sorry for being very blunt here - but i have the metal ware to show what happens when you don't follow this simple rule. I would not ever wish the same to any other rider.
Another fact of the matter is that scooters can only rapidly decellerate if they use the brake - as engine braking on them is not responsive enough.
While i think the particular person txting is a prat. If the scoot rider did the exact same thing without txting. Its fair game that you would be in the wrong.

[avgas]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=39375

Does it work in automatic mode, or do you still have to pull the brake leaver and not die. I'm just asking as a lot of people seem to think a more powerful horn will create a magical shield that defends bike and rider.
I wonder if they have an equivalent for deaf drivers, you know - like 600w headlamp high beams to piss people off who cant hear your horn?
Fact of the matter is that the horn is miss-used in NZ. Its more of a "Hey fuck you too buddy" then either a "watch out" or "hi/bye buddy".
I would be fine with the whole horn thing if people wernt such assholes with them. An example i would ask most people who love their horns is "Did you use it before or after the situation?" Most say after.
If that is the case - what is the bloody point in em.

[Wellyman]

Your a bit of an asshole for making the guy fall off, coz now he has to pay to get repairs done , replace damaged gear etc etc...
WM

[Shadows]

Your a bit of an asshole for making the guy fall off, coz now he has to pay to get repairs done , replace damaged gear etc etc...
WM

I reckon that if a honk of a horn was enough to knock him off his scooter then he wouldn't have lasted another five minutes anyway.

[Xtat1k]

Yeah texting while riding is not that clever, hopefully lesson learnt, pity was the hard way, better learnt from a riders horn than the grille of a truck

[SwanTiger]

In the old days parents would have told their kids that it serves them damn right, that they were being stupid and derserved it. This was back when we taught our kids about personal responsibility.

You missed the point my genetically challenged friend, or is that just name sake?

I don't care from either side of the story, I really don't even give a shit about the scooter rider or any moral bullshit surrounding it.

I'm focusing on the fact that Speeding Ant came on here somewhat gloating about his actions - then clarifying and justifying it to some degree. He initially made out that his actions were the cause of the scooter riders fall.

That young boy who was beaten to death in the back of a prison van by another prisoner; Do you think he deserved it for stealing his parents car and giving them so much grief to the point he was in the situation he was?

The logical and sensible thing speeding ant should of done in that situation, if he was so concerned (and obviously he was concerned enough to write it up on Kiwi Biker), is to stop at the scene, make sure the rider is okay - Phone the Police and report the accident, wait for the Police to arrive and then provide them with a statement saying what the scooter riders actions were (i.e. texting, braking suddenly, motorcycle not up to WOF standards if no brake light, etc.) and offered to go to court if need be.

The rider would of received a careless use or similar or at the very minimum a sevre warning - maybe enough to make him clean up his act.

There is my point and the reason for my previous post.

He must have freaked, you dont expect a bike to let off such a big noise! Considering he was riding one handed I think he must have let go in shock. It was rather amusing, left me feeling a little guilty though.

Actually, I'm not guilty.

That's why he'd need to have the horn surgically removed from his anal cavity if it was one of my children.

EDIT: None of my children will ever be seen on a gay scarf wearing scooter thingy unless they're thrashing it in some abusive form. Just for the record...

[speeding_ant]

The logical and sensible thing speeding ant should of done in that situation, if he was so concerned (and obviously he was concerned enough to write it up on Kiwi Biker), is to stop at the scene, make sure the rider is okay - Phone the Police and report the accident, wait for the Police to arrive and then provide them with a statement saying what the scooter riders actions were (i.e. texting, braking suddenly, motorcycle not up to WOF standards if no brake light, etc.) and offered to go to court if need be.

The rider would of received a careless use or similar or at the very minimum a sevre warning - maybe enough to make him clean up his act.

There is my point and the reason for my previous post.



That's why he'd need to have the horn surgically removed from his anal cavity if it was one of my children.

EDIT: None of my children will ever be seen on a gay scarf wearing scooter thingy unless they're thrashing it in some abusive form. Just for the record...

Fair enough. I made a mistake for not stopping and I will learn from that mistake. I apologise if I came across gloating, this was not the case. I'll make up for it..