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    Quote Originally Posted by XxKiTtiExX View Post
    We did wonder if the batteries poked... Mums done the same thing... Forgot to add water.. had to be replaced cause it wouldn't hold its charge anymore..

    EDIT:

    I had been for a ride earlier in the day.. When the battery was put on the charger it was low.. Sign its not holding its charge?
    Yes and no.. (sadly)

    The low fluid is a sign of neglect (easy to do) or overcharging - both will ruin the poor old thing. Assuming you can get to each cell, a hydrometer will tell you if the battery is shagged because the specific gravity of one cell won't come up or hold it's value after charging.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Yes and no.. (sadly)

    The low fluid is a sign of neglect (easy to do) or overcharging - both will ruin the poor old thing. Assuming you can get to each cell, a hydrometer will tell you if the battery is shagged because the specific gravity of one cell won't come up or hold it's value after charging.

    Cheers
    I do realize if thats what is wrong that it is my own fault.. I've checked everything but that.. And I guess that you learn by mistakes that you make.. Once you make them you tend to not do them again..

    Thanks again.. Will see if I can get hold of one otherwise I'll have to wait til tomorrow..

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxKiTtiExX View Post
    I do realize if thats what is wrong that it is my own fault.. I've checked everything but that.. And I guess that you learn by mistakes that you make.. Once you make them you tend to not do them again..

    Thanks again.. Will see if I can get hold of one otherwise I'll have to wait til tomorrow..
    Nearly ALL batteries get neglected - they live in the darkest dirtiest part of the bike and are a pain in the bum to get at. I know better but I still don't check mine regularly...

    Jeeze it's a pain when they fail though! Don't stress, like any component they have a service life and they will need replacing at some point or other..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Nearly ALL batteries get neglected - they live in the darkest dirtiest part of the bike and are a pain in the bum to get at. I know better but I still don't check mine regularly...

    Jeeze it's a pain when they fail though! Don't stress, like any component they have a service life and they will need replacing at some point or other..

    Ok Dan took the battery into the sparky at his work.. Ran some tests and apparently the battery is fine...

    Wants me to take it to him on the weekend so he can check its earthed properly etc etc...

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    I have a similar problem at the mo... It started with the dash disply flickering and then dissapearing completly.. I found that the negative terminal was loose so I tightened it and it seemed to fix the problem.... however this was not so as when I went to take off the bike stalled before I got to the end of the driveway and I lost the ignition again... After checking all the other connections around the battery I discovered the main fuse was blown... I replaced it and it blew again... Thought it may be the alernator, so i disconnected it and replaced the fuse.... same result.. blown fuse... disconnected the battery.... kicked it over.... no blown fuse.... replaced battery... blew fuse.... checked earth connections from battery to body... now no spark from coil .... anyone have any ideas?

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    Dan put the battery in just on dark the other day.. Reckons he turned the key and he thought he seen a spark.. turned it off.. Tried again seen nothing...


    Was having a fiddle around last night and having a really good look while we had enough light left.. Bingo!!! Negative wire has a cut/break in it all the way through the wires and its only holding together because of one tiny little bit of plastic.. So now we might actually be getting somewhere...

    Though we had someone tell us that the cut/break wouldn't affect running of the bike or electrics.. So now I'm even more confused.. We shall see tonight..

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxKiTtiExX View Post
    Dan put the battery in just on dark the other day.. Reckons he turned the key and he thought he seen a spark.. turned it off.. Tried again seen nothing...


    Was having a fiddle around last night and having a really good look while we had enough light left.. Bingo!!! Negative wire has a cut/break in it all the way through the wires and its only holding together because of one tiny little bit of plastic.. So now we might actually be getting somewhere...

    Though we had someone tell us that the cut/break wouldn't affect running of the bike or electrics.. So now I'm even more confused.. We shall see tonight..
    didn't think it was the battry at all.....hope you get it sorted soon doll!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    didn't think it was the battry at all.....hope you get it sorted soon doll!!!
    I hope so too... Hopefully this is the only problem.. Have someone whos gonna check the whole bike over for me on Saturday... Which is really kind of them....

    Then I can get back out there and continue being a snail and all... Practice makes perfect...

    thanks darl..

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    Ok... Finally got my wire fixed.... Turned the key.. WOW!!!!! I have display lights... Ohhhh headlights too and indicators.. And they are all bright and work fantastic.. I even got the blink blink of my indicator back.. *huge grin*

    Dan "did you start it"
    Me "Umm.. no.."

    Off Dan goes outside...

    I think my girl has the flu cause all she did was cough.. And cough.. And cough some more

    One problem sorted and another ones started...

    Dan even tried crash starting my bike for me.. But nope.. I think she decided to retire..

    Anyway I got his step dad out there.. And he just kept on kicking her over.. Soon as I started to smell the fuel I was paranoid that she'd been flooded..

    After about 20 kicks she finally decided to start.. Much longer than the usual "2" of my pitiful girl kicks..


    I txt Wayne to let him know what happened... Possibly fouled plugs because of the faulty wiring..? Gonna check that tonight as we didn't have enough light last night to look..

    If anyone else has any ideas it would be appreciated..

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    Don't stress - the bad starting may just be a one off - put in a new spark plug and see what happens.

    Congratulations on finding the electical fault. You did better than most would be able to do.

    Paul N

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Don't stress - the bad starting may just be a one off - put in a new spark plug and see what happens.

    Congratulations on finding the electical fault. You did better than most would be able to do.

    Paul N

    Ok thanks..

    Someone poked me in the rib and told me where to look! (I'm positive of it)

    Owe Dan big time cause he fixed it..

    Thanks for your help its so been appreciated..

    *theresa*

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    Okay..


    Riding home from work tonight my headlight cut out on me coming into a sharp corner... Still havent checked my pants after that one...

    Managed to make it home but lights decided to go bright, dim, bright dim all the way to our gate...


    Hopped off to open gate.. She cut out on me.. Started it again..

    Rode in.. Hopped off to shut and lock gate.. Died again.. Lights and all completely..

    Tried kicking it over.. Nothing.. Again HARD to start.. Yet earlier it had started just fine...

    anyway... Midst frustration some silly bitch managed to drop the bike (me) and in doing so the dumb cows completely snapped off the clutch lever..

    So.. No lights no nothing yet again... And the frustration of pushing the bike up the driveway in the dark...

    I don't even wanna look at the stupid thing at the moment.. I'm getting really frustrated..

    Came in and collapsed on the lounge huffing and puffing.. Must say its a good workout considering I've been complaining of how unfit I am...

    I suppose I'll give myself a few days to calm down before I go and even bother taking another look...

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    I still think you have a broken wire. It may be significant that it cut out on a sharp corner. Carefully check the wiring loom where it goes round the steering head for damage, they can get caught between the steering stops.

    The hard to start and lights going bright and dim is because all your electricty is coming direct from the alternator, the battery is no longer in circuit to smooth things out. Or, just possiby you have a dud reg/rec.. But my money's on a broken wire, possibly out of sight within the wiring loom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I still think you have a broken wire. It may be significant that it cut out on a sharp corner. Carefully check the wiring loom where it goes round the steering head for damage, they can get caught between the steering stops.

    The hard to start and lights going bright and dim is because all your electricty is coming direct from the alternator, the battery is no longer in circuit to smooth things out. Or, just possiby you have a dud reg/rec.. But my money's on a broken wire, possibly out of sight within the wiring loom.
    Found one... And its been fixed... Will take another look when I've calmed down... Got enough shit on my plate at the moment.. Saves me pushing it off into the mudflats..

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    Blah Gahhhhh not me again!!!

    Alright took another look together.. With a bit of txt help from Gordie and some advice.. I think now I might be getting somewhere.. Thanks Gordie, your help today was appreciated..

    I took another look at the fuse and at how its sitting in the little metal bit thats holding it.. Found it strange that the wires where its crimped into the little metal thing that holds the fuse weren't actually touching the ends of the fuse on either side... txt Gordie and let him know.. he told me there was meant to be a spring in there...

    "Use the spring out of a pen" *cough* so yes I did exactly that... After stabbing myself a fair few times with the end of the spring.. And a bit of blood later its finally sitting in there nicely and touching properly...

    Bike started.. Didn't cut out.. Started it just before to check what my lights were doing in the dark.. No flickering.. Throttle.. No dimming of the lights..

    Looked at a diagram in a bike book of mums, between the wire and the fuse theres a spring.. cept on my bike there was definately no spring on either end and the ends of the wires aren't touching on either end of the fuse...

    Originally I thought the metal thingy thats holding it would connect it properly..? (is learning)

    So anywho.. Quick job of that... Proper job tomorrow..

    the wire running from the battery to the fuse is really really short so I was thinking about replacing that.. Was just wondering what issues I could have in doing that or if its just plain and simple so long as its the same type of wire... you know how you have your different thicknesses colours etc etc.. recrimping and soldering where needed and fitting some bits of spring in properly instead of my half pie job I did today..

    So a few question...

    Where I will be recrimping the wires and soldering so I can get a proper contact for my fuse should I still cover that particular bit in heat shrink to seal it properly or would just the solder be fine..?

    Also I was gonna replace the little metal thingys that hold the fuse because the ends are open and the spring originally kept popping out and just about stabbing me in the eye.. Good or bad idea..? Or is there a particular "way" you go about it so it doesn't do that to you.. (bit difficult cause its open ended)

    Any other advice is appreciated..

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