You can't have your cake and eat it too

[Grahameeboy]

Sort of. In reality taxpayers' kids are the tax payers of the future, beneficiaries breed guess what...unfortunately the latter are popping them out like rabbits, many of the former are staying childless.

Yep, one just popped out.....oh...there is another..

You are right though.

[Street Gerbil]

You can't have your cake and eat it too

Sorry for being such a smartass but yes you can. You can't have the opposite:
"eat your cake and have it too" . :-)

[sAsLEX]

Understand your point, however, they probably do not have the expertise over here to build Frigates.....could be wrong....UK has a reputation as a boat builder.............what does NZ have a reputation as?

Like Fishers, when they started washing machines etc were a new thing but now 70 years later they are an need to have accessory so everyone is making them.....I mean here we are moaning that we do are losing out but on the other side of the coin, why shouldn't Asian countries seize opportunities.....

Aren't we world renowned for our boat building, specifically our super yachts at present. VT Fitzroy was formed to put a bid in for the Protector fleet, a collaboration between Vosper Thornycroft, a big brittish ship building comp, and Fitzroy Engineering a New Plymouth heavy engineering company. But no suprises Tenix won the tender.

VTF now work the dockyards at Denvonport.

[eatu4dinner]

well then, that's 350 odd coconuts we can send back to the islands.

shame they were the ones with jobs.

Bro so where are you from? Shall we send you back from where you came from?

[The_Dover]

Bro so where are you from? Shall we send you back from where you came from?

I'm from the fuckin islands. Bro.

But I've got a job.

[Ixion]

No-one can FIND those Godforsaken islands that *you* came from. We suspect they've totally disappeared beneath the ocean, otherwise we'd have sent you back there long ago.

[Grahameeboy]

Aren't we world renowned for our boat building, specifically our super yachts at present. VT Fitzroy was formed to put a bid in for the Protector fleet, a collaboration between Vosper Thornycroft, a big brittish ship building comp, and Fitzroy Engineering a New Plymouth heavy engineering company. But no suprises Tenix won the tender.

VTF now work the dockyards at Denvonport.

Only since the America's Cup............

[Brett]

Yes indeed, another sad example of what happens when the lefties get too strong a hold on things. They all sprout on about raising taxes on Companies to fund this and that. No wonder the poor buggers all go offshore where it is so much cheaper to operate.

[Forest]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/...ectid=10436393

350 jobs go at Fisher & Paykel. The lefties and academics will blame F&P for being corporate pigs. The more sensible amongst us will be saddened by this and angry at what this government has done to NZ.

There's not much hope for the future of NZ. We're just too far south to grow coconuts.

The unemployment rate is currently at historic lows.

Those F&P people will have new jobs in no time.

[Ixion]

No, they won't . McJobs, maybe. But those are skilled workers.

[Forest]

No, they won't . McJobs, maybe. But those are skilled workers.

Yes they will.

NZ currently has the lowest unemployment rate in the developed world. This is not an opinion, this is fact.

[Finn]

The unemployment rate is currently at historic lows.

Those F&P people will have new jobs in no time.

Really? And why is that Mr Gump?

[jonbuoy]

Understand your point, however, they probably do not have the expertise over here to build Frigates.....could be wrong....UK has a reputation as a boat builder.............what does NZ have a reputation as?

Like Fishers, when they started washing machines etc were a new thing but now 70 years later they are an need to have accessory so everyone is making them.....I mean here we are moaning that we do are losing out but on the other side of the coin, why shouldn't Asian countries seize opportunities.....

I think they could have built it here - not as quickly as the Dutch but could have been done. Drydock at Devonport isn't big enough for it - but they could have built one somewhere else and picked up more work afterwards for refits eventually it would have paid for itself.

[Finn]

Aren't we world renowned for our boat building

Note world renowned, but we have our place. Our production process is very efficient with little wastage and we produce very good quality. The downside is we are more expensive, quite slow and we don't have experience building the "big" ones.

[avgas]

And who pays for that?

The people who dont pay anything right now. You know, the ones that get money from the govt - then moan cos they actually get less after tax.
"Dat f'ing governtent takes da money off us!"
ITS NOT YOURS DUMBASS!!!