I can't get my bike certified

**bistard** · 3rd May 2007, 15:19

I just had a thought,now I have not read this whole thread,but if you cant get the bike VINed,how about applying for a dealer plate,bolting that on the bike & away you go??
I know of a few guys down here that are private individuals,who have more than one bike & a dealer plate
Just a thought??

**DEMONICST8** · 3rd May 2007, 15:22

I am still in contact with the previous owner who has moved back to Switzerland, he has gone to the Land Transport over there but they "insist" on seeing/having the original ownership papers before they will look into it, a photcopy wont do and I'm not prepared to post them over to him, if they get lost I'm really screwed!

Going through the port it arrived wont help, I have a letter from Customs saying they have no record of the container arriving.
I think I've tried everything, I give up, if I cant find a frame by the weekend ill try and sell the bike, will be sweet for parts.

**bistard** · 3rd May 2007, 15:45

The only other option I have used,was to get the NZ Police to stamp & sign a form saying they have no interest in the bike(read it is not stolen) & then take it along & VTNZ will then process the bike in the normal manner
So do you know any NZ Coppers??,or can a policeman that is on here help??

**The Pastor** · 3rd May 2007, 15:55

yeah sweet talk come good cops, I know patrick on kb is a good one, not sure if he does traffic or not though.

**Paul in NZ** · 3rd May 2007, 17:10

Originally Posted by DEMONICST8

I am still in contact with the previous owner who has moved back to Switzerland, he has gone to the Land Transport over there but they "insist" on seeing/having the original ownership papers before they will look into it, a photcopy wont do and I'm not prepared to post them over to him, if they get lost I'm really screwed!

Going through the port it arrived wont help, I have a letter from Customs saying they have no record of the container arriving.
I think I've tried everything, I give up, if I cant find a frame by the weekend ill try and sell the bike, will be sweet for parts.

Without being cute - you are screwed anyway - post the papers.

Customs don't unload the containers, the Port does, there will be a record. Convincing someone to find it is another thing..

Jeze - just buy a munted one when it comes up on trademe. They were not a common bike here so good luck. Alternately, import a wreck...

**Ixion** · 3rd May 2007, 17:22

Are they the same frame as the GPX600 ?

**dickytoo** · 4th May 2007, 13:27

Originally Posted by DEMONICST8

I am still in contact with the previous owner who has moved back to Switzerland, he has gone to the Land Transport over there but they "insist" on seeing/having the original ownership papers before they will look into it, a photcopy wont do and I'm not prepared to post them over to him, if they get lost I'm really screwed!

You could get photocopies made and certified by a JP, keep the certified copies and send off the originals. that way, you at least have a set of papers that could be considered "legal" if the originals do get lost. the JPs don't usually charge for their service and all it'll cost you is time.

**avgas** · 4th May 2007, 13:30

reg it as a scooter. lol

**xwhatsit** · 4th May 2007, 18:47

Originally Posted by dickytoo

You could get photocopies made and certified by a JP, keep the certified copies and send off the originals. that way, you at least have a set of papers that could be considered "legal" if the originals do get lost. the JPs don't usually charge for their service and all it'll cost you is time.

That's Swiss Land Transport, they might not pay any attention to some NZ JP, or even recognise the system I would've thought.

**Matt_TG** · 4th May 2007, 20:15

My brother in law works for Quadrant Pacific (Shipping Co), he may be able to look into the container movement if it came on a shipping line they work with. Any possibility of scanning the Bill of Lading and letting us have a look?

**Mully** · 4th May 2007, 20:33

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Customs don't unload the containers, the Port does, there will be a record. Convincing someone to find it is another thing.

Umm, not with Personal Effects. Most, if not all, of these are imported at the importer's premises. The port unpack very few containers.

I suggest asking who the forwarder who handled it was. And seeing if you can get a copy from them. You may have to pay for them to dig them out of 6+ years storage. By law, Customs Agents have to keep all documents for 7 years.

**dickytoo** · 7th May 2007, 09:28

Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat

That's Swiss Land Transport, they might not pay any attention to some NZ JP, or even recognise the system I would've thought.

i said for him to keep the certifed copies and to send the originals. please reread my post!

**Paul in NZ** · 7th May 2007, 09:47

Originally Posted by Mully

Umm, not with Personal Effects. Most, if not all, of these are imported at the importer's premises. The port unpack very few containers.

I suggest asking who the forwarder who handled it was. And seeing if you can get a copy from them. You may have to pay for them to dig them out of 6+ years storage. By law, Customs Agents have to keep all documents for 7 years.

You are quite right but i meant unload the containers from the vessel and they need to know the numbers of the containers so they can be loaded onto the freight companies trucks. Unpacking the containers used to be called 'devanning' when i was involved in that stuff and you are quite right, the info must be held for 7 years.

However, I'm not sure this info is going to do this gentleman much good - he seems a bit ticked off by the whole process.

**DEMONICST8** · 7th May 2007, 13:10

Phoned a JP on the weekend, he suggested as above that I photo copy ownership papers and send off the originals, as you said Paul, I'm screwed anyway so what have I got to lose.
I will send off the originals in a few days back to Switzerland to the previous owner who is still trying to help me, hopefully the Swiss Land Transport will have proof that the bike was deregistered.
The JP said I should also contact a lawyer and get a letter typed up to Land Transport stating everything I have done and show that I have tried everything possible and they should let me register the bike, of couse this is after I hear back from Switzerland.

I do appreciate all the input and support from you guys, I'm not quite pissed off yet, but there is a hell of alot of shit to get through just to ride a bike.