Remove your helmet

**FJRider** · 17th May 2009, 18:06

Originally Posted by wickle

You bitch about price of fuel then requests for helmets to be removed. I have been told that to have eftpos put at the pumps as you say, cost would be approx $30000 per pump( I wonder who would pay for that in the end). and as it is a good percentage of customers can not swipe they cards properly even when given instructions at the counter.

If you had to swipe before you got gas, no more drive-off's... helmet on or not.

**SixPackBack** · 17th May 2009, 18:07

Originally Posted by wickle

You bitch about price of fuel then requests for helmets to be removed. I have been told that to have eftpos put at the pumps as you say, cost would be approx $30000 per pump( I wonder who would pay for that in the end). and as it is a good percentage of customers can not swipe they cards properly even when given instructions at the counter.

30K you say hmmm my bullshit meter is redlining, never-mind.......who would pay for eftpos pumps? the customer of course! I would gladly pay another cent per litre to have the convenience of remaining on my motorcycle while filling up.

Interestingly a service station I frequent has closed down its eftpos capability. The cynic in me says this is so customers have to go inside the station and perhaps be tempted to buy other shit they don't really want like coffee and chocolate. A certain irony exists with this particular service station should they ever request I remove my helmet, having removed eftpos and the need for me to scare the poor possums withmy scary presence!

**vifferman** · 17th May 2009, 18:08

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Bugger. Missed a button. Funny thing is this. Because you spend your 'money' when you do where ever you do...you think you have the right to be devoid of manners. I bet you're rude to waitresses and bar staff too. Just to show them who really is the boss! I bet you're pussywhipped.

That's actually kinda funny. I'm actually a very polite ~~young~~ old man. My mother brought me up properly, and I find it very hard to be rude to serving persons, no matter how much they deserve it. I appreciate that they're people too, not servants (even if that's the role they're paid to perform).
Manners? This has nothing to do with manners, as far as I'm (personally) concerned. Like I said (if you go back and check my posts), if I'm asked I'll take my helmet off, but explain why I leave it on. I'm very clumsy, and invariably drop my keys or a glove, or my credit card. If I dropped my helmet just because I was "being polite" or obeying rules (BTW - I don't recall seeing a "Please remove your helmet" sign at any of the service stations I frequent, nor have I ever been asked to), I would be rather pissed off. I might even say a rude word.
I wouldn't blame anyone else though. You see (not that I give a damn whether you do or not), I believe in personal responsibility. There's no room in ViffermanWorld for looking for scapegoats or "there should be a law against it". No, there are far too many rules'n'regulations.
"Doing the right thing" is all. In the circumstances, and in my experience, taking off my helmet has yet to fall into this category. When it does, I will.

Frankly, I don't really care what you think of this.
You're not my wife, nor my mother.

**Ragingrob** · 17th May 2009, 18:11

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Bugger. Missed a button. Funny thing is this. Because you spend your 'money' when you do where ever you do...you think you have the right to be devoid of manners. I bet you're rude to waitresses and bar staff too. Just to show them who really is the boss! I bet you're pussywhipped.

Most service stations do not even have a forecourt attendee, most have employees who stay inside the shop doing nothing but working the till. Whenever an attendant actually shows me some manners and fills up my car, I show them some manners.

How do you define manners anyway? Should people take off their caps when they go inside the station?

With a helmet on I can still smile with my eyes and say please and thank you, I think that's manners enough when making a 10 second transaction.

Originally Posted by wickle

You bitch about price of fuel then requests for helmets to be removed. I have been told that to have eftpos put at the pumps as you say, cost would be approx $30000 per pump( I wonder who would pay for that in the end). and as it is a good percentage of customers can not swipe they cards properly even when given instructions at the counter.

Many many pumps have eftpos on them, and they used to be in use, now they are still sitting on the pumps but only for "insert brand name" cards only. Aren't we allowed to bitch? Petrol isn't a luxury good or service, it's a commodity, now it's a multi-million dollar profit-making business with shit service and you're asking us to waste our time all for the sake of manners?

**avgas** · 17th May 2009, 18:14

Originally Posted by Ragingrob

With a helmet on I can still smile with my eyes and say please and thank you, I think that's manners enough when making a 10 second transaction.

All while looking like a retard who missed the bus

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th May 2009, 18:14

Originally Posted by vifferman

Frrankly, I don't really care what you think of this.
You're not my wife,

Frrrrrrrankly (Mr spelling police)...thank God for that...because if you're so clumsy I pity her.

**Ragingrob** · 17th May 2009, 18:14

Originally Posted by FJRider

If you had to swipe before you got gas, no more drive-off's... helmet on or not.

Winner by a clear mile of logic.

**Ragingrob** · 17th May 2009, 18:15

Originally Posted by avgas

All while looking like a retard who missed the bus

Huh?

**Ixion** · 17th May 2009, 18:19

Originally Posted by Ragingrob

..
How do you define manners anyway? Should people take off their caps when they go inside the station?

..

Good point. Yes, they should. If we are talking manners and politeness they should. Where's the sign for that? And likewise the till attendent should NOT be wearing a cap if male. And if female, should not be bare headed (VERY impolite that) . Sauce, goose gander etc.

**FJRider** · 17th May 2009, 18:20

Originally Posted by avgas

all while looking like a retard who missed the bus

huh ???....

**Mom** · 17th May 2009, 18:21

Originally Posted by Ragingrob

It's just stupid that they don't have self-service eftpos pumps available to anyone all the time.

Our local Mobil (that no longer receives one cent of my hard earned money)has eftpos at pump, but they have disabled it. They insist on all customers having to go into the station to pre-pay, this includes motorcyclists that have used the same service station for nigh on 30 years, and certainly every week for the past 6 or so years.

The reason for the disabling of the eftpos at pump service is so people go into their grotty shop and hopefully buy some of their wonderful 2 for one chocolate bars or what have you. The reason I wont go in there anymore is the pre-pay requirement. The young woman with english as a very recently aquired second language, that served me the last time I went in there was so rude and overbearing I was actually lost for words.

People that know me will be truely amazed by this concept I am sure. I explained I had no idea how much gas the bike would take, her response, pay more, we will arrange a refund if you dont spend all of the pre-payment (or buy chocolate bars to the balance) at least that is what I think she said! Rude bitch! She did not seem to mind the helmet though to be fair.

**scracha** · 17th May 2009, 18:33

Originally Posted by FJRider

If you had to swipe before you got gas, no more drive-off's... helmet on or not.

30 grand...bullshit. Even if it was, you could then fill up 24 hours and they could lay off some staff.

Helmet, if I'm asked, I'll take it off but to be honest, I make a point of putting my wallet on the tank before filling up so I've never been asked once over here. I don't think the guy will ask again as I apologised and put my dripping wet helmet on his nice paperwork so I could juggle my keys and wallet simultaneously.