To Robert Taylor and other MNZ bashers

**Drew** · 28th June 2009, 12:06

Originally Posted by roadracingoldfart

So why not combine the classes into 1 race like F3 and Pro Twins are at the moment.
Im about to do a mod to a CBR600 that will allow it to run in P/C junior still but will make it ineligable for F2 ( S/P ) so its taking 1 bike away from a cross entry possibility.
There are alot of older 600s that can be made to go very well on a track for thier age but they cant enter S/P because of the limitations in the rules.

Is it really that simple or am i dreaming again ???

Paul.

Cheaper to run that old bike? I dont think so at all, particularly when you consider how much the bike I'm garaging for someone cost. Came with spare rims (wearing a very good set of wet tyres too), and Ohlins equipped. There is no way the ongoing running cost of the CBR can be kept as low as this thing, and would NEVER run as high in the field with the same rider.

I know you have a passion for making bikes do better in a current field, than perhaps thought possible, but at some point Paul you will have to concede. Newer is faster, and racers are result driven.

Dont anyone bullshit me with the, "just out there for fun". Because at the end of the day, EVERY single one of us measures their results against others on the track. And we all wanted to "chase down that one next guy", or "I could hang on to the fast guys for only so long".

**roadracingoldfart** · 28th June 2009, 13:06

Originally Posted by Drew

Cheaper to run that old bike? I dont think so at all, particularly when you consider how much the bike I'm garaging for someone cost. Came with spare rims (wearing a very good set of wet tyres too), and Ohlins equipped. There is no way the ongoing running cost of the CBR can be kept as low as this thing, and would NEVER run as high in the field with the same rider.

I know you have a passion for making bikes do better in a current field, than perhaps thought possible, but at some point Paul you will have to concede. Newer is faster, and racers are result driven.

Dont anyone bullshit me with the, "just out there for fun". Because at the end of the day, EVERY single one of us measures their results against others on the track. And we all wanted to "chase down that one next guy", or "I could hang on to the fast guys for only so long".

I agree with you Drew , newer is faster but really , in reality the cost of going faster is dictated by the cost and thats unfortunately not within reach of alot of racers.
One thing i will state is , a newer bike IS faster by along shot but if that newer bike gets a mechanical issue or suffers a crash i know the cost of reinstating that newer bike is going to cost a shit load more than an older bike.
With an older bike you can get a whole wreck or dog bone special for less than the cost of newer shit.
Hell mate , old is good

, just like me

PS: if that bike in your garage gets anywhere near as fast as my times on an old bike

(they used to be ok ) , i will come out of retirment and smack

the little prick.

Paul.

**roadracingoldfart** · 28th June 2009, 13:09

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

No theres a lot of merit in what you say and Im glad Shaun bought it up.

Heck, the communist agitator that dredged and restarted this thread must be laughing his red socks off!

I love to see commies sqirm lol . Its like the smell of race fuel in the morning.

So Dr Bob , who do we talk to about this , clubs , MNZ , ???? start a vigilante group and rape and pillage and hang all the menfolk .?

Paul.

**Drew** · 28th June 2009, 16:03

Originally Posted by roadracingoldfart

PS: if that bike in your garage gets anywhere near as fast as my times on an old bike

(they used to be ok ) , i will come out of retirment and smack

the little prick.

Paul.

If it doesn't get as fast as your times, I'll smack the prick. Be realistic mate, what's here is another world from what you rode. Light, stable, and wearing radials for crying out loud! (

Couldn't resist sorry old fella).

The chassis on it are not what let them down against the big boys, and 10% less power as a four, is theoretically 7.5% as a triple.

I've got a couple ideas on how to do it differently, that should reduce a bit more drag than the current example. If I get a chance to debate with whoever is gonna do the work of course.

**roadracingoldfart** · 28th June 2009, 17:25

Originally Posted by Drew

If it doesn't get as fast as your times, I'll smack the prick. Be realistic mate, what's here is another world from what you rode. Light, stable, and wearing radials for crying out loud! (

Couldn't resist sorry old fella).

The chassis on it are not what let them down against the big boys, and 10% less power as a four, is theoretically 7.5% as a triple.

I've got a couple ideas on how to do it differently, that should reduce a bit more drag than the current example. If I get a chance to debate with whoever is gonna do the work of course.

Ahhhhh pffffftt Who are we talkin about , captain 125GP lines ??? he couldnt beat me if i put my dick in his hand and gave him instructions.
I know the bikes capable but hes just a pussy

and i cant wait for his reaction to this topic hehehehehe ......

And theres a perception of THAT bike coming here from what angle. lmfao

**Drew** · 28th June 2009, 17:31

Originally Posted by roadracingoldfart

Ahhhhh pffffftt Who are we talkin about , captain 125GP lines ???

Touche

Originally Posted by roadracingoldfart

he couldnt beat me if i put my dick in his hand and gave him instructions.

Is shudder at the image.

Originally Posted by roadracingoldfart

I know the bikes capable but hes just a pussy

and i cant wait for his reaction to this topic hehehehehe ......

Me too.

Originally Posted by roadracingoldfart

And theres a perception of THAT bike coming here from what angle. lmfao

I think the bike will end up where the current example emerged. Hope not though, I wanna see it happening. I've actually got some experience with some similar attempts.

**scracha** · 28th June 2009, 19:01

Originally Posted by Drew

I think the bike will end up where the current example emerged. Hope not though, I wanna see it happening. I've actually got some experience with some similar attempts.

Gonna do some homework on this first. I'm in no mad rush.

You's are a pair of bar-stewards BTW

Paul, bad choice using a 22 year old bike as an example but I think what you're trying to say is that there's plenty of cheap bikes over 5 years old wot could be pretty competitive if the rules were relaxed on them a little.

ps. If you want someone to hold your dick while you talk dirty to them then either rejoin the navy or go sidecar racing.

**Kickaha** · 28th June 2009, 19:04

Originally Posted by scracha

ps. If you want someone to hold your dick while you talk dirty to them then either rejoin the navy or go sidecar racing.

maybe on a short bike like Scurvy and sidecarbbob run but we're a bit more homophobic on the long bikes

**Drew** · 28th June 2009, 19:08

Originally Posted by Kickaha

maybe on a short bike like Scurvy and sidecarbbob run but we're a bit more homophobic on the long bikes

Too far too reach from the swingers chair then?

**scracha** · 28th June 2009, 19:09

Originally Posted by Kickaha

maybe on a short bike like Scurvy and sidecarbbob run but we're a bit more homophobic on the long bikes

Doggy instead of spooning eh? I guess the swingers aren't the takers so they're OK.

Hey...and I've found the ideal bike for RoadRacingoldFart when he loses his license to old age next year.
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/06/help-me-honda/

**scrivy** · 28th June 2009, 20:47

Originally Posted by Kickaha

maybe on a short bike like Scurvy and sidecarbbob run but we're a bit more homophobic on the long bikes

Say what??? and the saying Denny loves the .... isn't true??

You long bike guys..... matching leathers, talk about being homophobic...... it's all just a front for hiding your real lust as homosexuals!!!

I can just see you and Divvo walking along with your miniature poodles at the racetracks....... talking about raising your suspension .5 of a mm or tyre pressures .25 of a psi!!!
POOFTERS!!!

Whereas Bob and I will jump up and down on the suspension to make sure it still works, kick the tyres, then go into town and drink a few beers, and talk about you soft homos!!!!

:slap:

**Quasievil** · 28th June 2009, 21:22

Originally Posted by scrivy

Say what??? and the saying Denny loves the .... isn't true??

You long bike guys..... matching leathers, talk about being homophobic...... it's all just a front for hiding your real lust as homosexuals!!!

I can just see you and Divvo walking along with your miniature poodles at the racetracks....... talking about raising your suspension .5 of a mm or tyre pressures .25 of a psi!!!
POOFTERS!!!

Whereas Bob and I will jump up and down on the suspension to make sure it still works, kick the tyres, then go into town and drink a few beers, and talk about you soft homos!!!!

:slap:

BWAAAHAAHHAHAHHAAAA Classic !!

You exclude the lower classes that ride Motards I guess