What is the difference...

[Katman]

The government have already introduced "draconian" laws that we all have to abide by...... and, it doesnt severely impact my enthusiasm for motorcycles. for example..... its illegal to wheelie my motorcycle whenever the hell I want on the road or, patch it up whenever the light goes green. Thats not going to stop me enjoying my ride. I choose to obey the law when I ride..... and, I choose to enjoy my life while going about my daily business.

Do you really think that the government have reached the point yet where they think "Ah well, we've done everything we can. At least we tried"?

[Katman]

I'm not particularly happy with either option, and you've just presented what is called a False Dichotomy.

So do you really think that the government is capable of thinking in any manner other than 'Black or White'?

[mattian]

Do you really think that the government have reached the point yet where they think "Ah well, we've done everything we can. At least we tried"?

No, there will always be assholes who ruin it for the rest of us..... who take stupidity to a new level of obnoxiousness on the roads, they have always been around and always will be.
I am not going to let that small percentage of idiots ruin my life or, my enjoyment of it. I can live without doing wheelies on my bike or donuts in my car. choose life.

[jono035]

So do you really think that the government is capable of thinking in any manner other than 'Black or White'?

I sure don't, but that wasn't the question you just asked before

[oldrider]

between Boy Racers and Fuckwits on Motorcycles.

There are Car Enthusiasts and there are Boy Racers........

........just as there are Motorcyclists and Fuckwits on Motorcycles.

How is the public supposed to tell the difference?

Poy racers belong to "them" and motorcycle fuckwits belong to "us".

Even the public can see that "them" boy racer's use cages with four wheels.

Whereas "our" fuckwits ride bikes with two wheels, although some hold one up off the road to save on tyre wear. (sort of like fox terrier dogs carrying one leg)

Foxies and fuckwits are highly tuned skilfull animals but both seem to be full of piss and need to relieve themselves often.

"Them" boy racers should be exterminated, they are really bad people and dangerous too! Zere should be laws to crush zem!

[Katman]

I am not going to let that small percentage of idiots ruin my life or, my enjoyment of it.

What if that small percentage induce those that have the power to do so, to ruin our enjoyment of Motorcycling?

[mnkyboy]

Heven forbid - if you did skids on your own lawn - and a cop drove by I bet they would stop...

As I found out they do - stopped and watched me do a burnout in my driveway. Asked me what the hell i was doing - told them I was having fun before replacing a tyre. Wanted to give me a ticket for something but realised they couldn't

[mattian]

What if that small percentage induce those that have the power to do so, to ruin our enjoyment of Motorcycling?

"Enjoyment" is a subjective term. What do you find enjoyable? The government make many many laws that I abide by everday without ever noticing how that has dimished my "enjoyment" of life.
I obey the rules everytime I go out on the road, it doesn't diminish my enjoyment of riding.

[jono035]

As I found out they do - stopped and watched me do a burnout in my driveway. Asked me what the hell i was doing - told them I was having fun before replacing a tyre. Wanted to give me a ticket for something but realised they couldn't

Air/Noise pollution perhaps?

[jono035]

"Enjoyment" is a subjective term. What do you find enjoyable? The government make many many laws that I abide by everday without ever noticing how that has dimished my "enjoyment" of life.
I obey the rules everytime I go out on the road, it doesn't diminish my enjoyment of riding.

When you have grown up with something that has 'always been like that' it is very different from waking up one morning to find out that something you used to do and enjoy has just been marginalised that much further.

Then again I'm just bitter because of the harebrained push to change the E category firearms classification at the moment.

[Ixion]

So if the government introduce draconian laws to combat fuckwits in cars (that, in turn, impact severely on Car Enthusiasts), you're happy for them to do the same to combat Fuckwits on Motorcycles (even if, in turn, it severely impacts on all motorcyclists)?

You missed the bit about politicians

They don't bother me, I don't bother them. Sort of my rule in life. Except for rats, wetas and politicians. They're vermin and need to be exterminated.

I left ginga coppers out. Them too.

Rather fight the vermin than folk that aren't bothering me

[Ixion]

As I found out they do - stopped and watched me do a burnout in my driveway. Asked me what the hell i was doing - told them I was having fun before replacing a tyre. Wanted to give me a ticket for something but realised they couldn't

That cop required a years therapy after that. Ruined his day it did.

Like when y' get stopped. "Just a routine check ". Check alcohol, licence , rego, WoF. "[thinks] Shit, everything's in order - WTF can I give him a ticket for - oh bugger [aloud, over the sound of grinding teeth] Thank you, carry on "

y' just *know* how totally pissed off he is . Ride off with big smile on face. Free world 1, cops 0.

[wbks]

You missed the bit about politicians



I left ginga's out. Them too.

Rather fight the vermin than folk that aren't bothering me

Fixed

[Katman]

The government make many many laws that I abide by everday without ever noticing how that has dimished my "enjoyment" of life.

How about the possibility of............

Your yearly registration will now be $1000.

or........

As of this date no motorcycle over 500cc will be imported into the country.

[jono035]

That cop required a years therapy after that. Ruined his day it did.

Like when y' get stopped. "Just a routine check ". Check alcohol, licence , rego, WoF. "[thinks] Shit, everything's in order - WTF can I give him a ticket for - oh bugger [aloud, over the sound of grinding teeth] Thank you, carry on "

y' just *know* how totally pissed off he is . Ride off with big smile on face. Free world 1, cops 0.

Unless recently changed then I don't believe they can breath test you without being given reason to believe that you have been drinking.