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[flyingcr250]

Please then embellish your emotive statement at length, if man enough....

hardly the place for it.

[krasher]

I am guessing that this ''part time'' importer does not have motorcycles as a primary source of income? If so then why is he doing this? Answer, to make a quick buck out of brazen self interest. And not having to provide any credible form of support structure.
The motorcycle industry here ( the legitimate full time one ) provides employment for thousands of people. In these times I would count retention of jobs uppermost, much more so than those picking the eyes out of it to suit their own pockets.
Fulltime legitimate importers do not so much have the luxury of choosing to import when the currency is strong as they are tied to the production schedules of the factories. Part timers will only do so when the currency is strong. Leaches.

This part time importer sees a quick honest buck that could mean that he could make coin in hard times as well as giving somebody else a good deal.

It is the parallel importers that keep the full time importers honest IMO. Too many middle men sometimes. For some products that is a good thing. It means support and warranties and all that. Sometimes it just means you pay more and the importer middle man still knows jack about the product and still takes months to get you parts at still exorbitant prices. Not saying this is you...just saying it is some importers...ones that I have had plenty of experience with in the electronics industry at least.

Dunno if I am going to bring the bikes in or not, but it is buyer beware - and what is wrong with that if its done fair and honestly? Most second hand cars are sold as is where is. I have been honest about the source and I will do so when I sell them. If they sell, they are at the right price. If somebody buys them, then they consider price more important than support from an importer, but it will have to be cheap enough to make the difference. People do pay for security. It's a different market in my opinion. These will be competing with the second hand market not the new market.

[TK3]

Its kind of ironic that there is not a level playing field when it comes to dealing with the yanks. Bollocks Obama has recently introduced protectionist measures for his agricultural sector and that is really screwing our primary producers bigtime. But its okay for other sectors in the US to dump product here.
I am guessing that this ''part time'' importer does not have motorcycles as a primary source of income? If so then why is he doing this? Answer, to make a quick buck out of brazen self interest. And not having to provide any credible form of support structure.
The motorcycle industry here ( the legitimate full time one ) provides employment for thousands of people. In these times I would count retention of jobs uppermost, much more so than those picking the eyes out of it to suit their own pockets.
Fulltime legitimate importers do not so much have the luxury of choosing to import when the currency is strong as they are tied to the production schedules of the factories. Part timers will only do so when the currency is strong. Leaches.

You should be careful robert, as some of your good customers are these so called Leaches.

[Assasin]

Please then embellish your emotive statement at length, if man enough....

If man enough intresting. End of topic everyone knows what I'm on about so do you. Not going to drag this thread off topic anymore.

Two words (King Tax) very well known to us bikers.

[Robert Taylor]

If man enough intresting. End of topic everyone knows what I'm on about so do you. Not going to drag this thread off topic anymore.

Two words (King Tax) very well known to us bikers.

When people sling mud its better if they are actually in full command of the facts, rather than making blanket assumptions / judgements. CKT and CKE are two seperate companies and I have no financial interest whatsoever in CKE. But I do call the shots at CKT which is a solely suspension focused company with activities largely seperate to CKE. An apology from yourself would be appropriate but the relative anonymity of forums means that the embarrassment of your misdemeanours is somewhat diluted.
I stand resolutely by my comments about private imports, I dare say few actually care a toss about the implications on the industry.

[Robert Taylor]

This part time importer sees a quick honest buck that could mean that he could make coin in hard times as well as giving somebody else a good deal.

It is the parallel importers that keep the full time importers honest IMO. Too many middle men sometimes. For some products that is a good thing. It means support and warranties and all that. Sometimes it just means you pay more and the importer middle man still knows jack about the product and still takes months to get you parts at still exorbitant prices. Not saying this is you...just saying it is some importers...ones that I have had plenty of experience with in the electronics industry at least.

Dunno if I am going to bring the bikes in or not, but it is buyer beware - and what is wrong with that if its done fair and honestly? Most second hand cars are sold as is where is. I have been honest about the source and I will do so when I sell them. If they sell, they are at the right price. If somebody buys them, then they consider price more important than support from an importer, but it will have to be cheap enough to make the difference. People do pay for security. It's a different market in my opinion. These will be competing with the second hand market not the new market.

Dont see it that way at all, this is taking food out of the mouths who have long term investment and infrastructure. It mocks that.
And if you import new machinery it is also fair and moral that you attend to and back up any grief that occurs. No matter how you window dress it you are in effect feeding off the backs of those with investment.

[Robert Taylor]

You should be careful robert, as some of your good customers are these so called Leaches.

If they have legitimate full time enterprises in the motorcycle industry then they are not, I was fairly referring to those who are only picking the eyes out of it. Anyone importing new machinery should have a moral obligation to back it up. Given the horror stories that surface all the time I think that is an entirely reasonable viewpoint.

[Assasin]

When people sling mud its better if they are actually in full command of the facts, rather than making blanket assumptions / judgements. CKT and CKE are two seperate companies and I have no financial interest whatsoever in CKE. But I do call the shots at CKT which is a solely suspension focused company with activities largely seperate to CKE. An apology from yourself would be appropriate but the relative anonymity of forums means that the embarrassment of your misdemeanours is somewhat diluted.
I stand resolutely by my comments about private imports, I dare say few actually care a toss about the implications on the industry.

You ramble like a mad man. How can you say you dont work for the same company you have the same boss/founder.

[Robert Taylor]

You ramble like a mad man. How can you say you dont work for the same company you have the same boss/founder.

No, im just offering a different perspective re such one off imports / ''fly by nighters'' and furthermore I have the guts to do so and put my name to it. I am also iterating what many in the industry at all levels will be thinking.
I am the boss and we are talking about different companies, check the companies register.
BTW, if as you infer profits are huge with that other company then I dont see any evidence of marble entrance foyers etc. There is so much misconception and that has been the case in the 30 odd years that I have been in the industry. But believe what makes you comfortable.

[Assasin]

No, im just offering a different perspective re such one off imports / ''fly by nighters'' and furthermore I have the guts to do so and put my name to it. I am also iterating what many in the industry at all levels will be thinking.
I am the boss and we are talking about different companies, check the companies register.
BTW, if as you infer profits are huge with that other company then I dont see any evidence of marble entrance foyers etc. There is so much misconception and that has been the case in the 30 odd years that I have been in the industry. But believe what makes you comfortable.

My issue is with you calling people leeches and parasites because they don’t conform and want to undercut and make a buck. I know how much the big guys make and I’m sorry all the explanations under the sun don’t cut it with me. You can insult me as much as you want saying im deluded and all the other big words you use to try and come across far more superior than I. I’m just a dumb biker that rides bikes with my family and find it harder and harder to go for a ride due to the cost involved and all I see are the big guys getting fatter and fatter.

And I dont blame the dealers.

P.S You Google your boss you can see his mansion.

[barty5]

Wow guy offers to bring in a bike or 2 if someone keen and sell as second hand their risk as with most second hand sales, and it gets turned in to a moaning bitch fest on the whole topic. It happens with everything you can or want to buy these days grow the fuck up and get over it. What you going to do next have a moan at Ebay as well while your at it cause we all shop there too great deals on new stuff to be had. Ive got couple a mate who go up every year or so and bring back 2-3 KTMs ride them up there for couple a week doing off road tours and bring them back never had any problems with as for warantee it just the risk you take for getting it cheap.

[jt119]

my bike new had a 28day warantee if somone could of got me one 2k cheaper new id of jumped at it

[telliman]

Wow guy offers to bring in a bike or 2 if someone keen and sell as second hand their risk as with most second hand sales, and it gets turned in to a moaning bitch fest on the whole topic. It happens with everything you can or want to buy these days grow the fuck up and get over it. What you going to do next have a moan at Ebay as well while your at it cause we all shop there too great deals on new stuff to be had. Ive got couple a mate who go up every year or so and bring back 2-3 KTMs ride them up there for couple a week doing off road tours and bring them back never had any problems with as for warantee it just the risk you take for getting it cheap.

i dont think hes talking abt guys bringing one or two bikes for themselves or others, hes using that as an example for people bringing in big numbers or parralell(hate that word) importing with no support and under cutting the industry that supports not only the sale and parts side of things but also those same guys that put on and sponser events, teams, race series etc etc.
unfortunatly dirt biking or road biking can be expensive, as expensive as you want to make it really and as the technolodgy advances so dose the cost, fact of life,whilst everybody likes or wants the cheaper deals youve got to look at the bigger picture, without the mr motocycles, the proride suspension guys and so on and so on we'd be fucked!. im sure if cheap was all you wanted there a solid market out there for stolen bikes!
it is unfortunate though that we the consumer pay for all these wankers you see at race tracks with support teams and really give not much back!

[Robert Taylor]

My issue is with you calling people leeches and parasites because they don’t conform and want to undercut and make a buck. I know how much the big guys make and I’m sorry all the explanations under the sun don’t cut it with me. You can insult me as much as you want saying im deluded and all the other big words you use to try and come across far more superior than I. I’m just a dumb biker that rides bikes with my family and find it harder and harder to go for a ride due to the cost involved and all I see are the big guys getting fatter and fatter.

And I dont blame the dealers.

P.S You Google your boss you can see his mansion.

The politics of envy insinuates that all profit is filthy. Clearly there is scant understanding by many of what is involved to provide reputable infrastructure and the very cost of just keeping the doors open for business every day.
I have said it before and I will say it again, I object to fly by nighters who just grab the money and run.
No apologies for having a reasonable understanding of our base ( English )language and no intention to make debasing statements to anyone, it is individual choice to what level you wish to practice use of the language.
If a few readers of this post get the point of what I am saying ( they dont have to agree ) then my posts re this subject have been successful.
Clearly there are those of us who regard the welfare of NZ workers of higher importance than short term self gain. Its as simple as that.

[barty5]

my bike new had a 28day warantee if somone could of got me one 2k cheaper new id of jumped at it

Got a love that both a mine where the same think i got 6 month very limited for both for the 11g they cost each hence i did look at the states to start but couldnt get fr8 sorted they where only 7g and the dollar was like 80c at the time