Law change - Daytime headlights and ban on handheld devices

[Genestho]

Can just see what is going to happen. People will pull over on the motorway to take a call. Oh well.

Well...what do they do though, either way the law is damned if it do and damned if it dont!
And you can't take it further (ie, banning kids, hands free, pies, conversations, ciggies etc etc) because seriously where do you stop, we need to keep emphasis on warrants obtaining cellphones, because if we don't - where does that end..

But then on the other hand it looks to me that MOT are trying to address crashes caused by cellphones on limited data collection, and following Aus, which implemented this law back in 2000 I think? So, yea. That's my take on it. I'm done

[The Stranger:Me]

A lot of 'oops' are never reported as cell-phone related.

Valid point.

That's a very good question!

To be sure, I'm not questioning the decision or the logic of the proposed law, quite the opposite, I'm all for a ban on cell phone usage in vehicles - especially after having to avoid a bus weaving all over the motorway whilst the driver was using his cell phone. That said, there are other distractions that could be addressed too (such as people applying mascarra whilst driving on the motorway perhaps), but it's a good start.
It is this passage "Disturbingly, forthcoming research will show that talking on a cell phone (even hands-free) hurts driving even more than driving with blood alcohol at the legal limit (.08 wt/vol)." that I find a touch difficult to swallow.

[Genestho]

Those excerpts are taken from the link I posted.

Did you have a read through the article of the link I posted, based on Strayers research, conducted over 5 years!

[Big Dave]

You can quote all the statistics ever.

Anybody who has ridden around Auckland for long enough has been put in 'a situation' by someone drifting in to their lane whilst operating a hand held communications device.

Such incidents are clearly and notably less when riding on the other side of the Tasman - where the practice is illegal and Policed.

[Genestho]

Oh mate - speaking as a driver, I'm friggen sick of gits not watching or indicating because they're on their phone, watched an incident yesterday myself!
In saying that, I am guilty of taking calls while I'm driving, most times I pullover - which is what I'll do from now on.

[Big Dave]

Oh mate - speaking as a driver, I'm friggen sick of gits not watching or indicating because they're on their phone, watched an incident yesterday myself!
In saying that, I am guilty of taking calls while I'm driving, most times I pullover - which is what I'll do from now on.

Yes - I was meaning that the statistics are irrelevant to the reality.

It's a bit like the headlights and hi-vis thing. I agree that the measures improve the rider's chances and add safety, but they only make you easier to see if the driver looks in the first place.

The majority of close shaves I've had involved the driver not so much as turning their heads my way. I know because I have survived because I was watching them like a hawk. Not even a glance. Miles away.

When it does turn sour and the accident is reported the driver says 'I didn't see him' not 'Well actually, I forgot to look' or 'I wasn't paying attention anyway'.

Hello turn your headlights on.

The dude with the chocolate wheel and more stringent training are better ideas.

[Genestho]

Well said! Must spread before giving again!!!

[James Deuce]

Well said! Must spread before giving again!!!

Girls really shouldn't type that sort of thing on Internet forums.

[oldrider]

Girls really shouldn't type that sort of thing on Internet forums.

That deserves "universal" bling, sooooo diplomatically put James Deuce!

[Genestho]

Girls really shouldn't type that sort of thing on Internet forums.

BLING Heading your way Sir!!

[BiK3RChiK]

Whatever happened to 'don't answer it!'? This is what I do if it's not convenient at home... that should translate to vehicles as well. I won't allow a little bleeping plastic thing to dictate to me my life! My kids would say... phones ringing!, and I'm like so? They'll leave a message or ring back if it's urgent.

[oldrider]

Posts on headlight use have been moved to their own thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=105494

That link doesn't open!

[Usarka]

i'm talking about daytime you pillock given that is what the thread is regarding as we already have them on at night

Having trouble linking ideas, concepts, causes & effects?

[swbarnett]

People are designed to multitask, some better than others. FFS, the rate we're going we will have robots to drive all our vehicles.

The sad thing is this has already happened. Last I heard field trials of automated roads are underway in the states.

[swbarnett]

Anybody who has ridden around Auckland for long enough has been put in 'a situation' by someone drifting in to their lane whilst operating a hand held communications device.

I've been commuting in Auckland for over 20 years and I can't say that this has ever happened to me.