People peddling bullshit as fact on KB

[YellowDog]

Good thread.

The KB forum has a real mixed bag of people with a commonly shared and uniting interest (Motorcycles).

Of course there will be a lot of BS and subtle provocation (some not so subtle) to make the dialogue a little more interesting and humourous.

FACT: Not all Honda riders are gay. BUT you must not let one or two exceptions tarnish Honda's reputation. And if after visiting this site, a n00b goes out and buys a Honda and still claims not to be gay; well I only have one word for such a person. D E N I A L

But seriously, some of the more serious BS on this site; whilst being obvious to most readers, could easily be taken as gospel by some poor unsuspecting n00b.

Poor Suckers.........

[The Stranger:Me]

Viff you also forget in your first post that there are many truths. You assume someone is either telling the truth or not.

The beauty of the forum is that;

poster 1 has a problem;

poster 2 has a solution "a".

poster 3 has solution "b".

poster 4 says both are rubbish and the solution is "c".

So Poster 1 was telling the truth as far as they knew. As was 2 and 3.

Sometimes the truth is dependant on our sphere of knowledge.

In viffer's OP he mentioned being prepared to substantiate your position.
Assuming 2, 3 and 4 have references and reasons it's all good isn't it?
No one lied and in many cases there is several ways to skin a cat. The ones that piss me off are the ones who rely upon nothing more than opinion and pose that as fact.

Sure, people should validate what they read, however this is only necessary because of lazy sloppy bastards insist on posting their opinions as fact all the time to satisfy some inane need for self import.

By all means, post opinion, but as you have done, couch it as such.

[dipshit]

Like "most motorcycle accidents are caused by car drivers" you mean?

[The Stranger:Me]

IMO - The onus must be on "you" to find out facts.

Make no mistake, lives are at stake, I just don't get how people can trivialise that. It HAS happened before that someone young and a little naive put CRC on their brakes, how would you feel if you had made that flippant comment and someone died? Would you have been - well hey, it's his fault for not checking?

So sure, you should check facts - but not everyone does at all the right times. Isn't it simpler for those that don't know what they are talking about to simply not talk?

[The Stranger:Me]

Everyone has an opinion, and this is a public forum, so hey lots of people say what they think and they have fun doing it. Thats the most important thing.

God you are full of shit. You get all bent out of shape when other have fun with opinions. You're a bloody hypocrite.

[vifferman]

Good.... Good.
My evil plan is working....
[Insert evil hand-rubbing mental image here]

[MSTRS:Me]

Like "most motorcycle accidents are caused by car drivers" you mean?

No. That assertion is actually true...if you accept that blame is about 50/50 between rider/driver. But of the 50% caused by rider, a big proportion of them also drive cars. Ergo - most motorcycle accidents are caused by car drivers.

[Morcs]

Ban the noobs. KB should be elitist.

[Littleman]

I've learnt a real gem on KB.

Speed doesn't kill.

[MaxB]

And while I am lecturing....

I have an article in a bike mag... I will dig it out when I get home...
It is a test with near new late model sprot bike on a dyno, with 3 different BP octane rated petrols. There is from memory about 3% between best and worst.

A contributing factor in a modern bike is the Knock sensor that detects preignition that is more prevelent with low octane fuels. If preignition (detination) is sensed, timing and fueling is adjusted dropping the performance...this is more the case with lower octane fuels.

Now you need to decide, do I know what I am talking about or am I dribbling from a hole in my head?

Which is exactly what happened with some of the mid-90s efi hot hatches imported from Europe. They needed 98 ULP to run. Our fuel got their computers screaming enough and the power was reduced to protect the motor (anti-knock loop). A quick trip to the dealers for re-chipping did the trick. Less power but they ran O.K. Perhaps things like that that is where the myth came from. I note the Jappas don't seem to have the same problems.

[ManDownUnder]

[Insert evil hand-rubbing mental image here]

... errr... rubbing what?

[Genestho]

Isn't it simpler for those that don't know what they are talking about to simply not talk?

You'd think so! If only it were so easy! How do you filter fact? You can't, rather circular really.
What are we talking about again?

[CookMySock]

some of the more serious BS on this site; whilst being obvious to most readers, could easily be taken as gospel by some poor unsuspecting n00b.

Only to people who can't think for themselves, and they are dangerous regardless.
We are very fortunate to have members such as Stranger, whose opinions ARE fact, so we are kept on the straight and narrow.

Steve

[boomer]

... are dangerous regardless.

Steve

How very fookin Apt. The fact you're in this thread speaks volumes but that pearler is pricess.

[tigertim20]

I think that generally, when people do ask a question on here, by the time they get online again and check for responses, there has been more than one, and if the responses are conflicting, and the person chooses to just beleive the first thing they are told, then they are too stupid to own a bike anyway. period.
I ask questions on here, and wait till I get several replies, and if in doubt I google or do other checks to see what the best reply is.

Often, and this may already have been said, but sometimes theres not just one right answer, sometimes theres several things that will work, and people are just saying what they do themselves, offering a suggestion.