To all Auckland commuters...

[Gremlin]

Dean, unless you're enjoying your little troll... brush up your law before you try making such solid claims as to what is illegal.

Once you're done... now imagine every bike and scooter as a car... now imagine the road network

By splitting you are actually reducing the congestion problem, as the vehicle is removed from the traffic, thereby reducing the congestion for all involved.

Now, this being a biker forum... I don't expect you to fully understand all of this...

[DIN PELENDA]

What am i saying, this is a motorcycle forum odds are anyone actually understanding. Forget about it.
About that bit i said if you or another biker pulled a wheelstand past me due to my lack of concentration i might not notice, no corruption.

We all understand what you trying to say but not all of us agree with you. I tell you of what happened to me last year, on way home from New Market going south on motorway. I was in 3rd line and traffic was going 80km/h and no need to split line but car that was in front of car that I was following gone hard on breaks and car on front of me just hit beck of that car and they slide to stop. I hit my breaks hard and I new I can stop before hitting those cars, but as I check my mirror, I make split-second decision to go in gap between my line and 2nd line which was moving and just as I got pass cars that crash on front of me, 4WD that was at beck of me ram those cars in full speed not slowing down. He did not see and realize what just happened on front of me, all that took 3-4 seconds and my split- second decision to split save my life.

[Indiana_Jones]

Law does mean alot, no matter how much of a hotshot you are you wont escape the law, its basic - Lane splitting = Not allowed, im sure or atleast i hope you can understand this. You're arguement is totally biast, i have seen so many threads on supposedly "idiot drivers" who pull out on bikers lane splitting. Well hello, knock knock if they werent lane splitting in the first place which is a no no then there would be no problem if anything the drivers are stopping them from breaking the law!!! Sorry but its the truth man.

"GO BETWEEN THEM?! ARE YOU CRAZY!?"

-Indy

[elevenhundred]

Law does mean alot, no matter how much of a hotshot you are you wont escape the law, its basic - Lane splitting = Not allowed, im sure or atleast i hope you can understand this. You're arguement is totally biast, i have seen so many threads on supposedly "idiot drivers" who pull out on bikers lane splitting. Well hello, knock knock if they werent lane splitting in the first place which is a no no then there would be no problem if anything the drivers are stopping them from breaking the law!!! Sorry but its the truth man.

I won't escape the law eh, that's only if they are after me.
I lane split past police cars and bikes and have never been pulled over.
As long as you're not being a cock while doing it they'll not bother you.
And as far as being rude cry me a river will ya

[Edbear]

why dont you get off at tecoma st,ellerslie?im sure thats quicker
oh this is for edbear

There are several ways in, but I found the time difference was negligible and taking the Port turn off at spaghetti junction takes me down to the waterfront and a pretty and relaxing route. Gets me off the madness through the junction and boring motorway.

I found when taking the car that Fanshaw St and through Quay St along there was quicker, too. Usually had good luck with lights.

[klingon]

I also lane split (sensibly) past police cars. The only reaction I have had is one car that moved slightly left to let me through.

I have been lane splitting for almost three years now, ever since I learned to ride. In that time I have clipped two mirrors and not done any damage to either of them. You really think lane splitting bikers go around denting and scratching people's cars every day? I have never seen it happen, and if it did happen I would expect the biker to own up, just like any other motorist who damaged another vehicle.

Good on you for choosing to stay in line, if that's really the way you want to ride. But just realise it's your choice and not something you can impose on everyone else.

By the way, I drove cars for many, many years before I got my bike. I never felt resentful of a bike going past me in traffic - just jealous! I also don't feel resentful when I'm in traffic and someone on a pushbike passes me in a bike lane. In really slow traffic sometimes pedestrians can get there faster than the people in cars! Do you really think pedestrians should stop and wait for the traffic to start moving again before they keep walking?

[Swoop]

Plain and simple lane splitting isnt allowed

What a load of bollocks.

[Gremlin]

Din Pelenda makes a good point.

I've had the exact same situation just south of Ellerslie, southbound. Cars in front did the typical sudden stop. I flashed my brakes lights first, then put them on to slow down. I didn't have a problem with the braking distance, but heard a screech behind me. Looked in my mirrors to see a car right behind me.

I pulled to the left of the fast lane and the car pulled up beside me, with less than a metre between it and the car that was in front of me.

[swbarnett]

Din Pelenda makes a good point.

Indeed he does. And it's not only the cars that can be a problem when you have to stop in a hurry. I had one incident where I was day dreaming and hadn't noticed the traffic had stopped in front of me (very early in my riding career. Of course I know better now...). If I hadn't been splitting I would've been in their boot.

[Ixion]

Din Pelenda makes a good point.

I've had the exact same situation just south of Ellerslie, southbound. Cars in front did the typical sudden stop. I flashed my brakes lights first, then put them on to slow down. I didn't have a problem with the braking distance, but heard a screech behind me. Looked in my mirrors to see a car right behind me.

I pulled to the left of the fast lane and the car pulled up beside me, with less than a metre between it and the car that was in front of me.

Couple of times I've had them slide right past me, wheels locked, right on into the rear end of the car that was in front of me.

Why I don't like relying on brakes.

[MarkH]

Driving a car I have had my bumper damaged by a large heavy Ute/pickup. Riding a scooter I never stop in line with the traffic - so I never risk the nose to tail prang. If the car in front of me stops then I ride past it and that is definitely not illegal.

[Dean]

Dean, unless you're enjoying your little troll... brush up your law before you try making such solid claims as to what is illegal

Nope im not trolling never started trolling in the first place , its a preference of mine to stay in line. But i dont want to enforce this on you or anyone, ride how you want aslong as you keep safe yeh.

I also lane split (sensibly) past police cars. The only reaction I have had is one car that moved slightly left to let me through.
Good on you for choosing to stay in line, if that's really the way you want to ride. But just realise it's your choice and not something you can impose on everyone else.

Great post! yes i agree, just a rider preference, everyone to their own riding style.

[Dean]

Maybe Dean need to get bigger bike, I just cant help my self, with size and performance of my R1, I will newer sit in traffic! That is reason for me to have 2 bikes! R1 red just gone black every afternoon 5.45 pm say hi Dean as I Fly pass you, from south Auckland to City and to Morningside

No bigger bike needed anytime soon, it can sit at 100 which is enough. If you see a yellow zeal 250 in traffic thats me! Pull in i will always have a good space and wait in line lol. Anyways forget about what i said before about this matter, as you were.

[PrincessBandit]

I commute from Manurewa to Auck CBD and love it!

Used to commute from Papakura to Auckland and back everyday on the bike and loved it.

Nutters!! the pair of ya!!

I must say Ixion, that while I do lane split occasionally, my skill set is such that I only do it when I'm completely confident that I'll succeed and not cause problems to anyone else - but that doesn't mean I'm pretending to be a 2 wheeled car. Hmmph.

Since I've started splitting it has made me even more aware of what is coming up behind me, in the way of lane splitting bikes. If I'm on mine and am considering doing it I immediately check behind to ensure I don't get in the way of someone else doing the same thing. Confident (sometimes I think it's almost "reckless") lane splitters can be quite intimidating, bearing down on rookies like me.

But then I do get to admire your arses as you fly past me.......

[caseye]

But why so impatient? Thousands drive to Auckland in traffic and get up earlier in the mornings even females you're age, its life. I know i may sound harsh, theres a thing we were all told when young and thats waiting in line. Its viewed rude to lane split, you take upon a huge risk in getting hit by a car. You would understand if you were waiting at say a bank and someone pushes in line.

Some people! hey Thani-B looking good girl. You take your time and you lane split carefully like I do(famous last words).Hey Crazy that was you this afternoon heading Norff while I was going soufe just past manukau?
Some pretty heavyweight KB'ers posting on this one Thani,most are in total agreement, split with care arrive fresh , dry and unstressed, occassionally take the high road or the low road for fun! You have a bike, enjoy it.'
Today while heading into Ak I was splitting at a gentle 30-40 K's pH when I became aware of a GN 2 fiddy behind me, tagging along, I thought it might've bene you, but alas it wasn't.
My advice to this fella rding his GN, give us bigger bikes some space, we stop a whole lot faster than you think and when splitting the last thingI i want is another bike of any size/sort that close behind me!
What a great day to ride anywhere though, see ya on Thursday night Thani-B.