If your job was to reduce road deaths what would you do?

[magicmonkey]

careful...teh internetz is watching!

lol! Yeah, I've had my fair share of speeding tickets I've never had an accident though (with the exception of reversing into a 2 foot high concrete pole once!) as I only push it when I know I can handle the road and there aren't any other drivers around. To my mind that's 'safe' driving as I'm within my limits and there isn't the variable of other drivers who are outside their limits. I'm sure there have been times when I have been dangerous though, it's not as if I'm perfect

[Hinny]

*Make motorcycle lanes on the motorways..

......silly idea...125's v 1000's fighting for the same lane..........................

Using the bus lanes in the 'burbs works fine. No reason why it shouldn't work on the motorway.
125s and thous go the same speed if riding within the law.

[Mort]

Training and practice is everything. Bikers need to be the best on the road. Vicious insurance or ACC against the idiot riders out there.... discounts for the people prepared to make the grade. Tougher govt tests too.

IMHO

[quickbuck]

*Make motorcycle lanes on the motorways..




125s and thous go the same speed if riding within the law.

They have the same top speed on the open road... BUT it is the rate of change in speed that differs...
This may pose a problem...
May not either..... It won't if the Thou is being ridden sensibly.

[Grahameeboy]

*Make motorcycle lanes on the motorways..



Using the bus lanes in the 'burbs works fine. No reason why it shouldn't work on the motorway.
125s and thous go the same speed if riding within the law.

If they do?? I think it is still a silly idea and has no real point if as you say "they will ride within the law"

[The Stranger:Me]

Every 5yrs you have to renew your license and to do so you must successfully complete a scratch and win. At least it means people get a refresher on the laws (not that they will obey them) and can be used to ensure changes filter through. Plus, with a bit of luck, some will actually study for the test.

This also has the benefit of being cheap and easy to administer even for fairly rural areas and as the govt can charge for it they should appreciate it.

[crazyhorse]

Create roads like America.............

[Hinny]

If they do?? I think it is still a silly idea and has no real point if as you say "they will ride within the law"

The point is, surely, that motorcyclists will no longer be forced to illegally lane split or crawl in the congestion with all the trucks and cages.
As I stated before, it works fine in the suburbs using bus lanes to avoid traffic congestion.
The anomaly of being unable to use the bus lanes on rhe motorway seems dopey to me.

[Hinny]

Of course there would be less congestion to deal with if they increased the speed limit on the motorways and got rid of visible patrol cars.
The exact opposite of the recomendations of the European Study they seem so keen on quoting when justifying their policing strategy.
It seems so ironic that Europeans could come up with dopey ideas such as those they espouse in that report. To me it seems patently obvious that the opposite of their recomendations is the policy adopted by those countries that have the lowest road tolls in Europe.
How can that not be causal?

[Grahameeboy]

The point is, surely, that motorcyclists will no longer be forced to illegally lane split or crawl in the congestion with all the trucks and cages.
As I stated before, it works fine in the suburbs using bus lanes to avoid traffic congestion.
The anomaly of being unable to use the bus lanes on rhe motorway seems dopey to me.

Agree with the last bit....the problem is that bus lanes are not continuous on the motorway so a bit like cycle lanes they end at some point..then you would have merge back in etc...

[Hinny]

Agree with the last bit....the problem is that bus lanes are not continuous on the motorway so a bit like cycle lanes they end at some point..then you would have merge back in etc...

Half a loaf of bread is better than no bloody bread at all.

[The Stranger:Me]

Agree with the last bit....the problem is that bus lanes are not continuous on the motorway so a bit like cycle lanes they end at some point..then you would have merge back in etc...

Fuck you like the sound of your own voice don't you?

Merging is what bikes do fooken well, they are short and nimble. Have you ever lane split or filtered? I guess not huh. Well if you do, you find you frequently have to merge back into the traffic. For the vast majority of us this is trivial, for those numpties that have a problem with this I suggest you should sell your fooken bike and become a cager.

[Ixion]

Agree with the last bit....the problem is that bus lanes are not continuous on the motorway so a bit like cycle lanes they end at some point..then you would have merge back in etc...

And so? Just like the cycle lanes, y'merge back in. If a honking huge bus can do it, a wee bike won't even be noticed.

[dpex]

And so? Just like the cycle lanes, y'merge back in. If a honking huge bus can do it, a wee bike won't even be noticed.

I'd make everyone go back to riding a donkey. Guaranteed outcome in road-death reduction.

[MarkH]

I'd make everyone go back to riding a donkey. Guaranteed outcome in road-death reduction.

Starting with the police! Then they wouldn't be bothering us and pulling us over.