Warning- for when you up the pace.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Will never happen. This is KM, he of one-note-song fame.
"Some men...you just...can't...reach"

Funny... I thought they were known as fucktards

The other problem with such described people is that they constantly put their own interpretation on what others mean, and use this as a platform to spout their own form of gospel ad nauseum, refuse to allow that they may have got it wrong, cherry-pick what they respond to and ignore all else, offer nothing in terms of constructive advice, and eventually resort to personal attack to the point where they and their chosen targets end up being infracted.

Spot on

[Mystic13]

Let the naysayers butt out here and now.......
I don't care who you are or how long you have been riding or how much you tell people you do not speed.... if you are a motorcyclist you are going to push the boundaries at some time and at some place.

That is a cold hard fact!

You will learn a hell of a lot about how your bike handles and reacts when pushed because I can assure you right now the harder you ride the more different your bike will handle and for some that aren't aware, it WILL scare the shit out of you.

Be warned and be prepared.

I notice there has been a lot of throwing toys out of the cot here.

My thoughts are;

- Katman - I see moderators as moderating, not inflamming with inappropriate language and name calling. I kind of think if you're going to wear the moderator hat then your posts as they stand in this thread are reflecting negatively on your credibility as a moderator IMHO.

- Beyond - I think the initial idea of the thread was a good one and it would have been useful to have got more input from others on what happens. I think you could have made two changes that would have achieved your aim stated further down the thread.

1/ You told the naysayers to butt out and then made some statement as fact. Basically if you tell people with a different opinion to bugger off they're generally going to butt in. Whether you intended it or not you set the tone and the basis for this thread as a "we said - they said" thread. And that is what has happened.

2/ At the end of the post you had a further opportunity to direct how the thread ran. You could have ended the thread asking for other input on what to watch out for with increased speed.

e.g. ""Be warned and be prepared." I know there is more to say. So for those of you who do ride at speed or on the ragged edge what other things do us riders need to be aware of?"

It's a bit tough to complain about the tone of the thread and what you wanted to happen when that's not what your post asked for or encouraged.

Those are just my thoughts on how come there are few toys in the cot and we have a floor covered in toys.



Yep, someone waved the red sheet in front of the bulls and they charged.
It's been like watching a brawl break out on a rugby field. Sadly one of the first to run in was one of the refs.

[mister.koz]

That suggests that the thread was responsible for the descent...not the usual culprit/s wheeling out their well-used flamethrowers and dragging it down. Despite the heroic efforts of the (other) usual culprits to stop them.

Good point... it does get a little boring, those all-too-regular battles...

[flyingcrocodile46]

- Katman - I see moderators as moderating, not inflamming with inappropriate language and name calling. I kind of think if you're going to wear the moderator hat then your posts as they stand in this thread are reflecting negatively on your credibility as a moderator IMHO.

You can't be serious... surely he isn't a moderator That is something that seriously needs to change.

Btw. Nice post

[Genestho]

Yep, someone waved the red sheet in front of the bulls and they charged.
It's been like watching a brawl break out on a rugby field. Sadly one of the first to run in was one of the refs.

At the time the OP posted the thread, instantly the reply posts were so fast, and descending so rapidly, that I'm not so sure constructive conversation was ever going to happen here. It was over before it began, but, this could've been addressed. You're right.

[MSTRS:Me]

Katman is NOT a moderator.
The green ME after certain names denotes that person is a mentor, with a certain level of experience/ability, and available to help others in (parts of) their riding.
Moderators, however, have their name in bold and/or orange.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Katman is NOT a moderator.
The green ME after certain names denotes that person is a mentor, with a certain level of experience/ability, and available to help others in (parts of) their riding.
Moderators, however, have their name in bold and/or orange.

Oh! That's good. I'd hate to think moronicity was seen by KB as a good benchmark

[The Stranger:Me]

My thoughts are;

- Katman - I see moderators as moderating, not inflamming with inappropriate language and name calling. I kind of think if you're going to wear the moderator hat then your posts as they stand in this thread are reflecting negatively on your credibility as a moderator IMHO.


1/ You told the naysayers to butt out and then made some statement as fact. Basically if you tell people with a different opinion to bugger off they're generally going to butt in.

Hmm, I think your mistake is to think Beyond made a mistake. I am absolutely certain Beyond knew pretty well exactly what would happen and I'm sure he enjoyed as much as the rest of us - but I could be mistaken.

You can't be serious... surely he isn't a moderator That is something that seriously needs to change.

Katman isn't a moderator.

[Katman]

Katman isn't a moderator.

Ohhh but if I was, I'd soooo infract his arse.

[Danae]

+1 Mystic

Can we have some input from the more experienced riders what happens at higher speeds and/or when they themselves push their own (already high) limits? And what others experienced as learners pushing the limits?

[short-circuit]

Oh! That's good. I'd hate to think moronicicty was seen by KB as a good benchmark

Is it moronic to spell moronicity: "moronicicty"?

[flyingcrocodile46]

Is it moronic to spell moronicity: "moronicicty"?

Yup.. I don't see the city limits sign in my regular travels so will defer to your qualified judgment

[short-circuit]

Yup.. I don't see the city limits sign in my regular travels so will defer to your qualified judgment

Well I wasn't born there I just live in the fucken place!

[mister.koz]

+1 Mystic

Can we have some input from the more experienced riders what happens at higher speeds and/or when they themselves push their own (already high) limits? And what others experienced as learners pushing the limits?

I am not overly experienced but i do know what its like to push a little far and get a real fright.

After reading allot of literature from race bike riders and listening to allot of people's suggestions I have minimised the surprises... I think that knowing what may happen is better than not because if you do get into a situation that you have heard about or had advice on you are in a better position to keep your cool and work through it rather than freeze up.

I would never condone riding beyond your ability, in fact i think its the quickest way to pain but even a poor judgment of a corner can have your safety buffer disappear.

Riding through the French pass springs to mind, i approached a set of 35km corners at speed and safely navigated them, the 3rd corner had a small rise that was hiding a 4th corner that should have had flashing lights on it.

The advice i was given saved my bike and bacon, a good friend of mind in-toe, we both did the same thing and ended up laughing about it at the next stop because we knew that we had over-cooked it and were lucky to have had a good way through. Consequently we did exactly the same thing...

ps, we weren't racing each other or i would have been riding by myself a good 10km behind him.

[Mystic13]

Wow, you learn something everyday. Okay. MENTOR!. I'm thinking the comments are still valid just change "Moderator" to "Mentor".

+1 Mystic

Can we have some input from the more experienced riders what happens at higher speeds and/or when they themselves push their own (already high) limits? And what others experienced as learners pushing the limits?

Cool Avatar. So that's your FXR150.