It is all our fault

[dipshit]

She said increasing visibility would make motorcyclists safer. They were not to blame for three-quarters of the accidents they were involved in."[/I]

I'm not sure where that comment is coming from though, so maybe best to take with salt.

It was from a survey where they looked at *all* motorcycle crashes that resulted in even minor injuries on several specific major Auckland roads and streets.

As soon as you begin to look at a wider area that incorporates more open roads in relation to suburban streets - you start to see more serious injuries and fatal accidents. In these cases riders were responsible for the majority of them.

But BRONZ had picked up on that selective Auckland survey and were saying things to the media like 80% of motorcycle accidents are car drivers fault.

[dipshit]

The sample is too small and too specific (it stands to reason a congested city like Auckland is dangerous for bikes), I doubt those figures translate nationwide.

They are very close to nationwide figures actually...
http://www.transport.govt.nz/researc...-Factsheet.pdf

[hospitalfood]

lets be honest, a lot of us are hoons. my favorite hoons in fact.

we say dumb shit like "i have a lot of excperience" but often some of us ride with no safety margin at all.

i have been slowing down a bit since i rode off the road a while back, it was nice to have a warning that did not damage me or the bike at all. never had that before.

i don't mind people riding to the limit but when they straight faced tell you they are being safe........................tui.

[rphenix]

This makes an interesting read.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10597333

Well considering that, typically when a bike is involved in an accident the blame seems to auto-magically land on the motorcyclist till proven otherwise I'm not surprised if in doubt the bike is at fault right?

[Mekk]

It was from a survey where they looked at *all* motorcycle crashes that resulted in even minor injuries on several specific major Auckland roads and streets.

As soon as you begin to look at a wider area that incorporates more open roads in relation to suburban streets - you start to see more serious injuries and fatal accidents. In these cases riders were responsible for the majority of them.

But BRONZ had picked up on that selective Auckland survey and were saying things to the media like 80% of motorcycle accidents are car drivers fault.

OK but what does BRONZ have to do with what the ACC Minister says to the media?

[Katman]

i don't mind people riding to the limit

Whereas I do - because when they are riding to their limit they are placing every other road user they encounter at a higher degree of risk.

[hospitalfood]

Whereas I do - because when they are riding to their limit they are placing every other road user they encounter at a higher degree of risk.

true. but i can't change them so im not going to stress about it. and i like breaking rules and others who do. prefer that to everyone being well behaved because well behaved bores me

[Katman]

and i like breaking rules and others who do. prefer that to everyone being well behaved because well behaved bores me

Can you pay my rego please?

[hospitalfood]

rego is another thing i have an issue with.
it would be better if we paid rego for the first vehicle and $20 on top of that for every other vehicle, with the proivision that only the registered owner drives the vehicle.
I have a car and two bikes, and i plan to get more bikes. the rego is killing me.

[hospitalfood]

Can you pay my rego please?

no.sorry. but i will shout you a beer.

[dipshit]

OK but what does BRONZ have to do with what the ACC Minister says to the media?

The Minister had been referring with motorcycle organisations. They just feed her their usual crap.

[Mekk]

The Minister had been referring with motorcycle organisations. They just feed her their usual crap.

Ahh, thanks for the clarification.

[jetboy]

It's never my fault - it was like that when I got there.

[Thaeos]

Short video about causes of motorcycle accidents in britain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBjUuKuPyo&NR=1

[Elysium]

The Chinese do it better
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj4LrSxjTIM&feature=PlayList&p=909005D753E58E69&index=10&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL[/youtube]