Court - What to expect

[Patrick]

Quick!, cover up that confusion with a lie or three!

Common problem that, a confused Policeman. It's usually resolved with the issuing of an offence notice. This seems to remove all confusion for them.

Theres one... just two to go.....

If the case is delayed because the cop does not show up,ask that it be dismissed as you have already taken time off work to appear.

I got off a dangerous driving charge this way

Shouldn't need to ask. You're ready to go, cop isn't there so Prosecution isn't, case dismissed.

[Ixion]

Frivolous it may be. He was exceeding his 70kph limit, and he doesn't dispute that. But defendants are entitled to use any means to get off a charge, and he has no other recourse but to enter a 'not guilty' plea. Just pleading not guilty isn't going to cut it though, so he must provide some evidence that the cop was lying (which doesn't seem to be that case), or there is some legal reason he was allowed to breach the speed condition.
Seems to me, it's his money and he wants to try to keep it (at the risk of it costing him more...). Few of us (including the KBstone Kops) think the 70kph is good law, but that in itself is not a defense. How else does one defend such a charge?
Since the only place to challenge a law is in court, then any means possible should be employed, and hope that it works, thereby setting a precedent under which breaches of that law can either continue to be defended that way, or the law be rewritten to close the loophole, or replaced with a better law. Ideally, this particular law/section of licence conditions would be altered to better safeguard learners (say, removed altogether or motorway riding is expressly forbidden).

Alas the argument is not merely frivolous but irrelevant. Wrong Law. See below

[Str8 Jacket]

So why *were* you exceeding the maximum learner speed limit?

[paddy]

Because it is widely accepted as dangerous not to do so.

[Str8 Jacket]

Because it is widely accepted as dangerous not to do so.

If that is what you are basing your whole defence on then quite frankly, I am afraid that you may be fucked.

[Patrick]

Because it is widely accepted as dangerous not to do so.

If that is what you are basing your whole defence on then quite frankly, I am afraid that you may be fucked.

Sometimes things need to be "tested" in a court of law. Perhaps this is one of them.

[SixPackBack]

Theres one... just two to go.....




Shouldn't need to ask. You're ready to go, cop isn't there so Prosecution isn't, case dismissed.

.........Or in my experience case postponed for another hearing...again and again and agian....28 months fucken long for a minor speeding ticket.....I lost count of the amount of times the officer did not show!?.......Care to shed some light on that patrick?

[jafar]

Sometimes things need to be "tested" in a court of law. Perhaps this is one of them.

An expensive way of finding out the precedents were set years ago.

So why *were* you exceeding the maximum learner speed limit?

Because the law doesn't apply to him !

Because it is widely accepted as dangerous not to do so.

See

[Madness]

At least he's not asking for donations towards his legal costs!

[paddy]

Because the law doesn't apply to him !

Come down from up there - I can hardly see you.

[Sheba]

Sometimes things need to be "tested" in a court of law. Perhaps this is one of them.

I think someone had a great idea earlier in this thread about getting a bunch of learner riders on the motorway going 70 km/h at a very inconvenient time of day and see the public response.

[jafar]

At least he's not asking for donations towards his legal costs!

True, mind you he would get just as much as carver from me
$00.00 including GST

Come down from up there - I can hardly see you.

Tis ok . I'm fine up here thanks

[paddy]

Tis ok . I'm fine up here thanks

LoL. That deserves some bling. :-)

[jafar]

I think someone had a great idea earlier in this thread about getting a bunch of learner riders on the motorway going 70 km/h at a very inconvenient time of day and see the public response.

Now there's an idea we could get a load of learners together & get them to pack the motorway before work so it slows the motorway down. Or mabey after after work so the cagers can't get home as fast ??

[p.dath]

.........Or in my experience case postponed for another hearing...again and again and agian....28 months fucken long for a minor speeding ticket.....I lost count of the amount of times the officer did not show!?.......Care to shed some light on that patrick?

Did you ask the judge to dismiss the case? I've seen people get off a charge before a JP because the prosecution was "not ready".