Doing a runner just got more attractive

**BMWST?** · 13th October 2009, 20:52

Originally Posted by ital916

So, when do you guys start carrying around wet bus tickets to slap people with...itll happen sooner or later in this super-politically-correct country.

On a side note, I wish there were ambulance bikes in nz, then I would apply to be a motorcycle paramedic. That would a cool job.

You would be first on scene of many RTA

**p.dath** · 13th October 2009, 20:56

Originally Posted by Mom

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But now what happens?

More helicopter pursuits from a safe distance?

**Ixion** · 13th October 2009, 20:57

Originally Posted by ital916

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On a side note, I wish there were ambulance bikes in nz, then I would apply to be a motorcycle paramedic. That would a cool job.

You can. There are such. But the ambo-bosses won't let them ride at night, or if it's wet, or cold. In case they hurt themselves. I think someone on here either is one or has a partner who is or summit.

**Fatjim** · 13th October 2009, 21:00

The really scary thing is there are judges out there who can't think two steps ahead.

**scumdog** · 13th October 2009, 21:01

What happens next?

Well for one thing bike thieves will have a ball...

**grusomhat** · 13th October 2009, 21:06

Our data shows that you are 18 times more likely to be injured on a motorcycle than in a car,

Doesn't sound that attractive to me. I'm sure by the time they have realised they should stop pursuit, I would have already come off

. I'm sure the experienced riders are different though.

**MIXONE** · 13th October 2009, 21:09

Fucking stupid.
Might as well get shitfaced at the boozer and then ride home at full speed.Nobody will bother to chase me.

**TOTO** · 13th October 2009, 21:14

Well, whats more attractive - a speeding ticket, or death ?

Doing a runner seems just as unattractive as before to be honest.

**McJim** · 13th October 2009, 21:20

This segues nicely from the thread about penalties getting tougher and some speculation on my part that this would increase the instance of runners (and therefore an increase in fatalities).

This suggests that there is already a high incidence of people doing a runner solely to escape the immidiate penalty of their traffic ofence and not because they have 10 kilos of heroine or a body in the boot of their car.

This is therefore an eye opener in that it supports my theory that increased penalties WILL definately increse the number of people who attempt to run.

Oh dear - I hope I'm wrong.

**scumdog** · 13th October 2009, 21:33

Originally Posted by McJim

This segues nicely from the thread about penalties getting tougher and some speculation on my part that this would increase the instance of runners (and therefore an increase in fatalities).

This suggests that there is already a high incidence of people doing a runner solely to escape the immidiate penalty of their traffic ofence and not because they have 10 kilos of heroine or a body in the boot of their car.

This is therefore an eye opener in that it supports my theory that increased penalties WILL definately increse the number of people who attempt to run.

Oh dear - I hope I'm wrong.

If they're not going to be chased (much) who cares??

**McJim** · 13th October 2009, 21:41

Originally Posted by scumdog

If they're not going to be chased (much) who cares??

Don't think that's gonna happen T. As I said before though there does seem to be a "have a go" attitue here that I haven't witnessed in Italy or UK. People seem more prepared to take the gamble (kiwis have culturally got a larger gulf between actual ability and perceived ability than most nationalities unfortunately) thinking they'll lose their licence and hit the gas. Once they've hit the gas they're gonna be charged with doing a runner so they're not gonna stop once they realise they've been an idiot and the situation gets worse.

I must confess I don't know what the answer is but suspect it should lie in putting high performance vehicles out of the reach of all but the most calm drivers.

**Insanity_rules** · 13th October 2009, 21:56

Gotta love the ministry of silly walks and the plod. One way we go too PC and the other we put our jack boots on. Wheres the middle ground?

**Motoracer** · 13th October 2009, 22:31

The bottom line is:

The person doing the runner will be at great risk for the 1st and 2nd time because the mind really tries to screw with you (assuming that you are not already a hardened criminal). Then after 5 runners, it becomes not too big of an ordeal and you can think reletively logically during the pursuit. After 10+ runners, one could intentionally engage into a "cat & mouse" game.

My point is, when a split second decion is made to "run" for the first or second time, the risks are still very deadly no matter what the police decides. Like a "skitso", the runner is really fighting with her or his own mind and often makes the wrong decisions leading upto fatal or serious injuries. I would say, this result could still occur even if the police had discontinued the pursuit for some time.

So the real bottom line is: Don't do it. If you do it, just know that it is a real game of "Russian Roulette".