Screw peaceful non-disruptive protest: Let's Cause Mayhem!

[Deano]

Patrick,

It's not that we think YOU specifically are against this. The point is that we do NOT want to be ushered into tidy queues by cops following us around.

How do we know WHICH KB copper is to be trusted not to pass the word onto those who will try to disrupt our disruption?

I for one welcome your support

How do you know any KBer isn't a narc ?

[Trudes]

Burn The Witch!!!!

[idleidolidyll]

This is a collection of ideas from the thread.
Please feel free to offer more ideas within the law or perhaps stretching the law somewhat so we can establish the boundaries............................


IMPORTANT: We need some ideas for meeting places outside Auckland. There have been many txts from other towns and regions; please tell us some nice meeting areas we can use as staging points for these protests.


A good idea to offer meeting places where we all have room to park individually in each car park and a cafe close by etc is also a good plan.


There is no point at all having these protests if people don't know why. You probably all have access to a computer and printer: print an A4 sign to sellotape to your seat while your bike is parked blocking car spaces.


Make up a sign for your back or buy one of the tee shirts and wear it on the outside or wear a reflecta jacket with your version of the protest in big bold letters on the back.

1. Yes! The National and ACT (and some Maori) politicians are behind this. Make a point of lawful harrasment of their offices, block their park areas etc.

1. Laxi:
   
   I'm for doing laps of MPs houses starting at say 11 and go until 5, louder the pipes the better.
   
   Frosty: One legal disruption I thought of was to start REALLY early in the AM and park one bike in every car parking spot in the main centers.As far as I'm aware its totally legal but would disrupt the central cities completely.
   
   wingrider: "If we want to piss anyone off then it needs to be those National MP's and any of their supportive MP's from other parties. Get onside with all the other groups to show support where applicable when they protest about changes that will affect them."
   
   jeffs:
   I suggest we start by very slow riding in close circles around the bus depots, in such a way as it makes it impossible for buses to
   get out. Hit the commuter, but not the one driving the car. This will have several effects. It show the people that we don't want to be in
   our cars adding to the congestion. Getting us off our bikes, wont make us move to public transport. If you hold up the cars, people
   may move to public transport, which is exactly one of their plans. Given the latest bus problems, such a thing would get good news cover

pzkpfw:
I was thinking something similar the other day.
But it involved walking and use of pedestrian (zebra) crossings.



Indian Tiger:
Slap on some L plates to the back of your bike and ride down the motorways at 69 kmph using all the lanes. One or two bikes with learner lisences in the midst of us and we're teaching them how to ride "legally".


Flip: I really like the idea of a park up around your local ACC ofices and a good old school noisy protest.


Frosty:
Actually I really think you lot aren't thinking this through are ya??
The point in doing this is to make sure the car driving public realise that if bikes are priced off the road that this loss of parking spaces will be PERMANANT as bikers are FORCED by government to drive cars.
The great nor western car park will be worse etc.
I'd even suggest that if the tickets in central wellington are"only" $40 then it would be well worth it to make the point loud and clear


iii:
The way to do this then: use a poster depicting the car you'll have to buy and park there when the levy hikes price bikes off the road
hang this from your bike as you block their space telling them its because of the ACC rises


wysper:
What if every biker stood by his/her bike for the duration of the protest.
Holding a sign explaining why they were there. We would be protecting our own, protecting each other and spreading a message.
And I think you are right about bringing cyclists, sports people into it. The political angle needs to be hammered too. Potentially we are a voting block thousands strong. If the issue is a vote winner/loser for us.


Sis:
paraphrased: "we can bring cars and vans too, this would help with the public and banner space and the riding slowly taking up a lane thing"

continues.....................

[idleidolidyll]

ManDownUnder:
And likewise... make use of bus lanes. DOn't forget to exploit the anomaly about bus lanes and intersections.
Bikes are allowed to use bus lanes inside Auckland city but are NOT allowed to proceed at the green "B". Chinaman's hill in the city is RIPE for causing mayhem. Ride to the top, wait for the buses to bank up behind you, wait for the "B"... and SIT THERE
By law you have to wait for the green light to go on... and when it does, scoot through the intersection quicksmart. The lanes merge the bus lanes runs out, and cars then cut them off. Done it before - and it works a TREAT!
We need a KBer in a land cruiser behind each lane of bikes then.


Conquiztador:
- A few bikers outside ACT/Maori Party/National MP's offices in their home towns with a BIG sign at the street saying something like:
"This is the office of Xxx Xxxxxx. Honk your horn if you agree that they are fucking up ACC". Does not matter if he/she is not there. It will affect their staff.

• Be at every public appearance the MP has in his/her electorate giving out information re what he/she is doing to ACC. Have a handful of bikers there in their gear.
• - Be at every get-to-gether that these parties hold. Have a big bunch of bikers outside for the whole meeting. (They all have webpages and it is not tricky to suss out when and where they are gathering)
• - Follow the MP's car by bike. Have someone on a bike there all the time.
  
  - At every bike meet/race meet/rally/Toy run etc. talk over the PA system for a minute or so. Tell everyone NOT to vote for the parties that are screwing up ACC.
  - Keep on sending letters to the editors of local newspapers with different angles on the issue. Get them publicised in the "Letters to the Editor" section.
  - A daily presence outside parlament of a doz or so bikers. Just to make them know that we are there...

apes:
mass slow rides on main motorways in the rush hour, one city per day, and a mass ride past government on a day some major bill is being discussed, something that generally inconvieniances everyone is well advertised before hand so those in the tin can and those driving trucks realise these levies could hit them next.


DangerousBastard:
Doesn't ACC usually have large parking buildings? A pack of ten or twenty noisy vtwins or inline fours will fucking devastating inside there.
Why not ride around inside the parking buildings while while staff are coming or going from work? Don't do anything intimidating - you won't need to. Just ride your noisy intimidating bike around and don't eye contact anyone - nothing illegal about that.
edit: They will call the cops before we can leave the building for sure, so make real sure you are squeaky clean. It will fuck the cops off too, coz it will take them an hour to check 20 bikes + bikers over, only to discover theres nothing they can zap them for. Suggest we take some lawyer-type with the group, as he can advise us legally when stopped by the fuzz - that will eff them off even more.
Do larger ACC offices have a cafeteria that is open to the public? Why not drop in for lunch about 20 mins before their lunch time, and buy all their pies and quiches. I don't normally go for quiche, but I'd make an exception in this case.


Kiwi Graham:
How about checking John Keys movements, meeting him and giving him 'outriders' to his destinations. Wherever he goes the media follows!


DangerousBastard:
edit: you might position a bunch of bikers outside the exit gates and all waggle a finger at him.


Sidewinder:
is this one legal?
a burn out with a pocket bike on the roof of acc in te rapa hamilton, but my work lader wasnt big enough lol


bogan:
cud hold a few signs etc to the effect of, 134 days to go, timed for an action the week before election. Even if we dont do something huge (though we would) it'll put bit lot of fear into the politicians wondering what we would do!


Subike:
I know a few lads who ride rather large trikes.
they are on our side even if their rides are registgered as cars.
put these trikes at the back of any mob, and then let any pissed off driver try to push trough .
a trike as the tail end charle on any group ride always will add to the saftey factor,
Apart from taking up the whole lane as a cages does,
they are rather intimidating to the average joe citizen.
so if any post BIKEOI is taken in the form of group rides,
try and have one or two big trikes at the rear.


Pzkpfw:
I believe pedestrians have right of way where driveways cross footpaths.
Could a steady stream of walking bikers prevent ACC staff get to work? MP's get into their office/home?


Mr Merde:
A few years back when living in the UK they decided that bikes were to pay a toll on one of the tunnels on the M25.
Bikers objected and thousands of them turned up at the toll booths. All dressed in wet weather gear, all with 10 pound notes. They dutifuly queued at the said toll booths. Each biker pulled up, got off their bike, took off their wet weather gear, took out their money from an pants pocket and dutifully waited for their change. They then counted the change, got back into their wet weather gear, back on the bike and rode off. This process was repeated by the next bike rider.
The M25 came to a standstill and London choked. They ran out of change at the toll botths and had to get more delivered by armoured car and the bike rider wouldnt leave till they had their change.
The next day there were no tolls for motorcycles.


Pixie:
(not posted as an idea per se but has its merits)
Get one of Klingon's hooters and hold it in your mouth as you ride.
(I mean the plastic ones she was selling at the domain,you dirty bastards)


iii:
It might take a while but instead of parking and getting off your scooters and bikes, you could stop in the space to "read a map", "answer the phone", "adjust your underwear", put on or take off a piece of clothing etc, any excuse to STOP, not park, in those spaces.
When a parking nazi asks you to move on, you WILL move on: to that space up ahead where the other bike is stopped and if a bunch of you do this when people are trying to park, you'll achieve the aims.
This would work best if there are more bikes than spaces in a selected area; that way the extra bikes could leap into the space quickly.


Sl8er4lyf:
Best things to do to disrupt Auckland is a citywide block off at rush hour, whether its all main ways into city center or just a block off of queen; we need to make them see that we are no minority


mikeey01:
Central city car parks and the above idea? (refernce to Mr Merdes ideas)


Zapf:
How about just get a good number of cars and trailers to grid lock the block that the ACC office is in or every major center. Shouldn't take many


XP@:
IT'S YOU NEXT!
Not just bikers, ALL affected parties.
All the population needs to join the fight to return to Woodhouse principles!
We are not the only ones affected If we rally all the troups: bikes, trucks, cars, cyclists, elderly, rape victims and anyone else who stands to suffer from the changes....
Then run the route up all the way through wellington

[idleidolidyll]

It's a shame some think the KB coppers are against any of this...

I have 4 bikes in my garage, happy to take up spaces at the Mega Centre... or Centre City.... or the CBD.....

PATRICK

You have an opportunity to make a valuable contribution here.
As I've said a few times; this is a LEGAL disruption.

Can you please read the ideas above and offer your thoughts from the Laws' POV?

[idleidolidyll]

Off to do some collation of the txt numbers:

back in a while

[twotyred]

Burn The Witch!!!!

it's a fair cop...

[BMWST?]

not for this.You will be disrupting many many more households than just the MP in question.

[aewilliam]

Hi, are there any rules about roundabouts?
For Auckland as an example, I'm am thinking of the potential of having bikes clog up (circling, or continually entering/exiting) critical arterial roundabouts such as Royal Oak or Panmure Roundabouts, or motorway access roundabouts like Ellerslie/Penrose or Greenlane. This way, it cuts off access to primary access points for car drivers and public transport to motorways or arterials.

[idleidolidyll]

Hi, are there any rules about roundabouts?
For Auckland as an example, I'm am thinking of the potential of having bikes clog up (circling, or continually entering/exiting) critical arterial roundabouts such as Royal Oak or Panmure Roundabouts, or motorway access roundabouts like Ellerslie/Penrose or Greenlane. This way, it cuts off access to primary access points for car drivers and public transport to motorways or arterials.

that's a damn good idea!

[Trudes]

I'm fairly sure it is illegal to go around and around a round about.

[StoneY]

I'm fairly sure it is illegal to go around and around a round about.

What about the Basin reserve for say 15 minutes of say, 200 bikes??? all in 2nd gear doing 30

[Trudes]

What about the Basin reserve for say 15 minutes of say, 200 bikes??? all in 2nd gear doing 30

Surely that's not classed as a round about, so let's DO IT!!!!

[idleidolidyll]

we wouldn't need to EACH go round and round: with a few bikes, one or two could go round then get off then another couple go round then get off then repeat all over again

there are legal ways to do most things

cops would probably eventually turn up but if you had posters saying why you were doing this, the point would be made

[caseye]

You are a naughty Naughty Boy mr Stoney! I bin there manMonday,Yesterday and today! that'd work, spose ya want us to come down there again and show you how to rotate to the left!