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    I like Waitangi day, but still think National Party HQ regional centers.

    National is driving this ACC thing, it should be on their doorstep that we arrive.

    Are the office locations in main streets or tucked away?

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    Expanding upon the idea,
    If we were to try and get a "Beware of the motor cycle" campain going for the week before Waitangi, and get ACC to fund it. ( prevention )so that on the weekend, we have gatherings in several centers, or.....
    Planed group rides of 20 or so bikes with a large vehicle advertising motor cycle awareness, traveling behind each mob as a protection.
    These mobs could contain the mandatory learner, so are restricted to 70kph legally.
    So?
    The overall effect is what we are after.
    If the main roads from each main town, north island , south island, every major route on that weekend were riden, thus be slower than usuall, as we place our message. .
    Now.
    Since we would be lowering the road speed for the week end to 70kph on the countrys main roads, the side effect could be a NILL road toll for the weekend. Achievable!
    We would be satisfying the bikers who want to cause a stirr up protest , and get car drivers attention with the right banners, and get truckers car clubs, veteran and vintage , even cyclists involved, the more the better.
    Again if it is seen as being Motor cyclists organising and leading this, then it has the potential of reaching a majority of the nation.
    It could be one awsome weekend for all involved, a world first, and arguments that we bikers are keen to be safe and seen.
    I know it could be a mind bender to organise, but if it could be done... no agro...lots of media coverage...TV advertising in the week before for rider saftey( paid for by ACC of course ) AND getting the message out there big time about what the goverment proposes to do with ACC.
    We have proven to be capable of having clout with BIKEOI, could this be a way of bring the attention of the whole country to the situation.
    again just ideas for us all to expand upon, or toss in the garbage tin
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    This is the address which lists National party events.
    Perhaps we could start by "attending" these events, preferably arriving well beforehand and taking all the available carparks surrounding the venues.
    http://www.national.org.nz/Events/Events.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
    Time, no need to worry about the time and date, I say 2nd weekend of DST next year but its only a thought

    Now take our time, make a good slogan, contact the right media (I say James Deuce for BIKEOI || official journo) and plan wisely

    As Les pointed out up there above, the rushed effort was horrendously stressful
    Brent, you've hit the nail on the head. Planning is everything. Give ourselves the time to plan, then execute that plan.

    With the support of ACT and the Maori party, National can push the changes through, no doubt on that. We need to keep them looking over their shoulders. Elsewhere in this thread, someone mentioned 3-monthly local events. Keeping the campaign in the public eye, then a (or two, one NI, one SI) massive event to culminate the year.

    We are all (I hope) here for the long haul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I don't think we should reckon on BIKEOI!-2 changing any decisions. For that (if it's possible at all) we need that constant pressure between now and late january.

    BIKEOI!-2 would be to send the "No - not good enough we're still angry" message.

    Need to bear in mind that for riders outside Wellington, there is potentially a need for time off work (maybe less so if it's on a weekend). That could be tricky for many - time off for BIKEOI!-1, time off at Christmas, not going to have much leave left.

    Should it be in Wellington? Obviously has to be if we intend to rock up to parliament. But, not much point in doing that if there's no-one else there, which would be the case at the weekend.

    So , if we went with a weekend event, a case could be made for it not being in Wellington.

    On the other hand, I can't think of any other really logical place.

    How about getting 250 bikes to ride between the 2 Plimmerton round-a-bouts for a couple of hours = closed sh1 in and out of Wellington all within the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridenshine View Post
    How about getting 250 bikes to ride between the 2 Plimmerton round-a-bouts for a couple of hours = closed sh1 in and out of Wellington all within the law.
    Yes with in the Law but would do our creadibility with the public no amount of damage.

    Try this on for size.
    Get about a dozen bikes together of different makes and models & sizes, park up in a high foot traffic area on a Saturday or Sunday, have some well written leaflets on hand,and a couple of banners, maybe a BBQ, $1 a sausage, $5 a ride on one of the bikes, say a 2km pre arranged route, with all the relivant gear.
    This way you are interacting with the Public rather than Pissing Off our Support, any money gathered from the Sausage sizzle and bike rides goes to a charity, that is named before the event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedrostt500 View Post
    Yes with in the Law but would do our creadibility with the public no amount of damage.

    Try this on for size.
    Get about a dozen bikes together of different makes and models & sizes, park up in a high foot traffic area on a Saturday or Sunday, have some well written leaflets on hand,and a couple of banners, maybe a BBQ, $1 a sausage, $5 a ride on one of the bikes, say a 2km pre arranged route, with all the relivant gear.
    This way you are interacting with the Public rather than Pissing Off our Support, any money gathered from the Sausage sizzle and bike rides goes to a charity, that is named before the event.
    Yeah coz that'll pressure a government into a policy turnaround

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    Not really going to put the fear of the Biker Gods into Mr Smith, though, is it.
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    what if we did a caroi, to show em were more than just bikers, were motorists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Not really going to put the fear of the Biker Gods into Mr Smith, though, is it.
    No - nothing we have done so far has or will.

    People have been mobilised. The counter-argument has been clearly articulated - thank you Ixion, StoneY, Mom etc

    The stakes need to be raised

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Not really going to put the fear of the Biker Gods into Mr Smith, though, is it.
    So how do we get 20,000 motorcyclists to ride on Wellington?.
    Turn Bikeoi 2010 into a week long event.
    So how do we Make it a Week long Event?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedrostt500 View Post
    Yes with in the Law but would do our creadibility with the public no amount of damage.

    Try this on for size.
    Get about a dozen bikes together of different makes and models & sizes, park up in a high foot traffic area on a Saturday or Sunday, have some well written leaflets on hand,and a couple of banners, maybe a BBQ, $1 a sausage, $5 a ride on one of the bikes, say a 2km pre arranged route, with all the relivant gear.
    This way you are interacting with the Public rather than Pissing Off our Support, any money gathered from the Sausage sizzle and bike rides goes to a charity, that is named before the event.
    When do we stop playing nice and hit them hard? If we show them a taste of what we can do they may sit up and take note!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridenshine View Post
    When do we stop playing nice and hit them hard? If we show them a taste of what we can do they may sit up and take note!
    Sooner the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridenshine View Post
    When do we stop playing nice and hit them hard? If we show them a taste of what we can do they may sit up and take note!
    And Say what a bunch of Loosers, Politicians don't give a fuck if you piss the Public off, the Public gives a fuck, if the public is Pissed off, then they ask the Politicians to do some thing about you, Ie the car crushing law, against Boi Racers, and you think they won't use it against bikes?.

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    Wherever the TV cameras might be covering a big event in the future, perhaps.
    Its knackered!.

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