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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    You know what I mean..even a 1970 Holden is safer than a bike
    For who??? the pedestrian it just run over.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwigs View Post
    Still equals $500 no matter how to try to sell it..you should get a job with Nick,
    Obviously you have plenty of money otherwise $500 would not bother you?
    Unfortunately as a solo parent $500 is a lot to me..
    No I don't...and I would rather pay less but I am just looking at the perspective....the other side of the debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by raster View Post
    For who??? the pedestrian it just run over.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    What has freedom of speech been banned now....and on a Biker site no less.

    I am here to say my view point..your words are more fighting than I have.
    Sorry if my message seemed hostile, it was not meant that way. Generally, as a courtesy, when someone asks for a clean thread, it usually given, ya know, politeness . I was merely requesting that you move your posts to another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy View Post
    Ixion, just a couple of quick thoughts:

    I think it's safe to release the details of a protest in terms of "Nick will be here", "we are looking for a turnout >100 bikers", etc. I think what you are probably trying to keep secret is the content of your questions so that Mr Smith cannot develop pre-tested answers. That is to say you would like to keep him of guard. The reality is that if 100 bikers turn up, very few will likely get to speak. To me, that means that very few need to know the specifics of the questions that will be asked. The rest of us just need to know the date/time and the general feel of the questions (so we know that we agree with you approach). In that respect those things would seem to me to be quite safe to be made public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Over $1.37 a day?
    would do for me

    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    If the benefit of ACC remains but in private hands whats the problem
    ACC already have lawyers out and about so they don't have to make payouts... in private hands where the company is bent on profit only it will be worse... you will have less cover

    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    You know what I mean..even a 1970 Holden is safer than a bike
    Why is I always feel safer on my bike than in any car or other vehicle? maybe cause I know if there is an accident I ain't going to get trapped inside it.. i don't know... I just feel safer on the bike...

    could be a only a point of prospective...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    would do for me



    ACC already have lawyers out and about so they don't have to make payouts... in private hands where the company is bent on profit only it will be worse... you will have less cover



    Why is I always feel safer on my bike than in any car or other vehicle? maybe cause I know if there is an accident I ain't going to get trapped inside it.. i don't know... I just feel safer on the bike...

    could be a only a point of prospective...
    Fair enough....I agree with your last point though....

    One point...if ACC made $1 billion surplus why would private insurance be tighter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    One point...if ACC made $1 billion surplus why would private insurance be tighter?
    the 1 billion was ACC as a whole... they would sell the seperate accounts err seperately

    all of a sudden the 1 billion dollars split per account is not much comparitively since the traffic account is probably the smallest and the one that is struggling to make money... does it get any if it is sold

    so the new owner has to make huge cut backs on payout and services, and huge levy increases to make a profit

    Hence why I have said the seperate accounts must be rejoined to the super account where the cross subsidising works as it was designed to work... the day the accounts were seperated was the day ACC started to truly fall apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Fair enough....I agree with your last point though....

    One point...if ACC made $1 billion surplus why would private insurance be tighter?
    The main part answer to that is Fully Funded Vs Funded for yearly expenses. Up until now ACC only got enough funds to pay for each year's expenses plus a slight buffer. Private Insurance uses a Fully Funded Model and try to take in each year, enough funds to cover the total cost for each claim for the life of the claim plus a much larger buffer. The Government is trying to push ACC into the Fully Funded type system like Insurance use. This type of system requires at lot larger buffer to run than ACC's present system. To do this they are pumping up the levies. The system doesn't need to be changed as it has been more than covering the expenses. Hope that answer your question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by short-circuit View Post
    Thanks for the large dollop of state the obvious
    There was no need to be vitriolic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    No I don't...and I would rather pay less but I am just looking at the perspective....the other side of the debate

    Never assume....
    Tell Nick Smith to actually look at the other side of the debate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Seconded! Can i hear a "MOTION CARRIED"???
    Still waiting..................
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Still waiting..................
    Thanks for the pic of me carrying my motion!

    Aaaaaand i'm still waiting for your response Graham:

    You said: "Car protection is a standard...seat belts are a legal requirement....."

    I said: Is a helmet not a legal requirement? Ya got me there, car protection is standard, it always has been hasn't it?

    Then again, once upon a time ther were no seatbelts in a car, airbags where an optional extra, there was no such thing as a crumple zone, cars where just metal cages that spat lead out of their rear end and shifted more than 2 people around... Protective motorcycle clothing is an optional extra!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Thanks for the pic of me carrying my motion!

    Aaaaaand i'm still waiting for your response Graham:

    You said: "Car protection is a standard...seat belts are a legal requirement....."

    I said: Is a helmet not a legal requirement? Ya got me there, car protection is standard, it always has been hasn't it?

    Then again, once upon a time ther were no seatbelts in a car, airbags where an optional extra, there was no such thing as a crumple zone, cars where just metal cages that spat lead out of their rear end and shifted more than 2 people around... Protective motorcycle clothing is an optional extra!
    I thought I had...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    I thought I had...
    Nope, you must have been too taken aback by the tone of my post to have actually responded. I forgive you!
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