Smacking - sometimes it's just hard not to do!

[mashman]

There is always some one bigger, stronger and who hasnt seen a woman in a long, long time.

bigger, stronger and harder =

[MSTRS:Me]

It's one of the most ignorant laws i've ever seen in my entire life...

But it's so well-meaning...won't someone think of the children, and their oh-so-easily damaged sense of self worth?
Tsk. Some people, eh?

[crazyhorse]

That backs up the conversation I had with the teacher of my eldest... Essentially they're encouraging everyone to be the same, no winners, no losers, just dangly bits in different places etc... but with more of a focus on helping those at the loser end of the scale... Hardly surprising that suicides amongst kids these days are so high... dissapointment is all part of the growing process... if they don't know any better, how/where are they going to vent that dissapointment

I totally agree - kids of today need to learn that things will not be handed to them, that the real world is different to what they think it is......

[MSTRS:Me]

I totally agree - kids of today need to learn that things will not be handed to them, that the real world is different to what they think it is......

Eh, wrong. Kids have ALWAYS needed to learn that. But today, the house of cards they are forced to learn/live under is all they have. Unless their parents are 'good' ones. And until they are out of the school system.

[Fatjim]

This is what happens when you give women the vote and the right to be members of and leaders of parliament.

If they were in their place, quietly and submissively whispering words of encouragement and wisdom in their well fed and pampered husbands ears the world would be a better place.

[PrincessBandit]

Sigh.

The adults did not have to smack their child. But they absolutely did have to discipline her, to make is unambiguously clear to the kid that her behaviour was completely out of line, and would not be tolerated. ....
Perhaps they are indeed smackers, anyway - where did the kid learn the trick from?

I don't think the answer was "they had to smack her", but the short sharp smack on the bum or legs when we were kids meant that as we got older we only needed "the look" from mum to know what would come if we didn't pull our heads in....
As for were did the kid learn the trick from? - it's human nature to lash out physically when we don't get our own way, or from frustration from other sources. The trick is to learn that sometimes we can't have our own way and get over it.

I was just highlighting that there is one person that can control you, you!

Yes, self-control seems to be a virtue not given much credence in this day and age of the almighty ME.

My sister is a teacher, and the next crazy thing is this:

School reports - she is not allowed to put any negative comments about the child's learning or behaviour - stoopid! if ya ask me!

Parents are now getting a false report - telling them how wonderful their little snots are. Not saying, they need to do better with this or that.

YOu cannot live in a society that makes people feel good about themselves - it is not reality. We cannot all win the race, someone needs to come last!

Rant over

Absolutely - it was even like that when I was writing reports back in the late 80's. You had to hope like crazy that parents were smart enough to read between the lines. A hope in vain for many, I suspect.

Nooooooo, cause DB is totin a pistola hombre, and cahonez that size, noones gonna get control over him without a fight

Don't think DB was thinking of the size of his cajones when he wrote that.......

I totally agree - kids of today need to learn that things will not be handed to them, that the real world is different to what they think it is......

If only they would, and parents would teach them!!!

[mashman]

But it's so well-meaning...won't someone think of the children, and their oh-so-easily damaged sense of self worth?
Tsk. Some people, eh?

I know.... stupid soft bastards

My wife doesn't smack the kids... it's a bone of contention in the house shall we say... when she lets rip, i'm surprised that when i look at the kids their ears aren't bleeding... plus that noise seriously grates on my fuckin nerves, can't be doing her blood pressure any good (as it's usually be pushing mine right up there...) and to be honest they more often than not go back to doing it again...

If the yelling approach if it isn't working... what's left?

[MSTRS:Me]

Tranquiliser darts?

[Karl08]

We will always get the behavior we tolerate, as parents and as a society.

This current generation of children will soon grow up, and we will have self absorbed, narcissistic, selfish adults who have no thought for how their actions affect others.

Don't we believe in the adage "maintenance is cheaper than repair"?

Most times at our local Warehouse I feel like "maintaining" half the damn toy isle.

[mashman]

Tranquiliser darts?

That or rigging up their chair to the school mains... Level 1 for first offence, level 2 for 2nd etc... Honestly, if it worked i'd be all for it... sign me up...

[StoneY]

I had some assholes kid in a restaraunt help himself to hot chips off my dinner plate
You all know the kid, snot nosed, dirty, barrefoot (while mum and dad sit in designer labels and 300$ reeboks) running round, screaming, yelling, throwing salad on the floor....

Theft of my chips was the final straw
Told his 'Dad' to deal with his kid or I would deal with him, and I wasnt talking about paying his fuckin bill either

The couple looked at me horrified, promptly went to complain to the manager, who bless his socks, BACKED ME UP and asked them to pay up and leave, and not to stop for desert
The couple started huffing on about thier rights, and the manager pointed out 'your child just commited and act of theft by consumption, pay that mans bill as well or be detained to talk to the police'

Wicked!
Need more peole like him round....mind you would have been better if he had stepped up before the useless bastsrds complained about my 'threats'

Bring the cane back at primary school I say, they learn at that age, as PB says, the 'look' was enough once you knew it meant bizzo

[Genie]

I'm a really bad Mother....like really bad. I will smack my children, after telling them not to behave a certain way - three times i will repeat - then the slap on the leg comes out. sometimes i don't have to repeat at all as they know i mean business! what i think is worse than the 'smack' is the 'yelling' i hate it when i start to yell and there's nothing worse than a mother (or anyone) doing their nut!!! Personally think it's so ugly and causes more trauma on the darlings than the controlled slap on the leg, plus they stop listening and my voice just becomes a drone in their ears. Whereas, the smack, instant change in behaviour. Just need someone to smack me when i misbehave

[MSTRS:Me]

Just need someone to smack me when i misbehave

Take a number. I'll...I mean ...the Doctor will be with you shortly.

[EJK]

Let it go. You can't control people.

Steve

Yes you can. It's called "respect".

[mashman]

Eh, wrong. Kids have ALWAYS needed to learn that. But today, the house of cards they are forced to learn/live under is all they have. Unless their parents are 'good' ones. And until they are out of the school system.

House of cards eh!!! that nudey ones??? Kids don't receive an education these days... they aren't taught how to find out for themselves... they just split homework down to easily manageable chunks and then massage/tag the marks on to the end of year exams... WTF kind of system would do that. The whole idea of end of year exams is to prove that you have remembered what you've learned and understood what's been taught...

they learn, regurgitate and watch TV... aaaaaaaand repeat until out of school system...