Hm "Wrote down the (licence) details". That's a bit suss. I wonder why?
They never asked me.
Hm "Wrote down the (licence) details". That's a bit suss. I wonder why?
They never asked me.
Originally Posted by skidmark
Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
Chortle.
The fact is the cop went well beyond his legal right, but then we all of us beautiful bikers went beyond our legal responsibility and simply provided said cop with our licences.
Had we refused to do so, as was our legal right, the scene would have inflamed. The cop would have got huffy, probably done a bit of., 'You're now trespassing,' impressions, or other legal thing.
Had we bought into our legal rights the situation would have heated and Bakshi's night of glory would have gone to hell in a hand-basket.
No. Good ups to all of us, especially me who was so close to telling the cop to shove it. We acted admirably. We didn't 'really' upset Bakshi's night of fame.
But he and his retinue of supporters were very concerned we would.
Well. Bakshi. On the night we were peaceful. Maybe next time we won't be in YOUR electorate.
Believe me folks, this guy is National's weak link. Not just him but his vast support group who see him as almost the new Messiah (whatever that is in Indian culture, but you know what I mean).
Oh yes. I intend to focus a lot of attention on Bakshi and his entourage.
He's a new back bencher with a shit-load more to lose than an MP I can think of, because he represents Indian pride.
Only 'Now' exists in reality.
Hate to say it Wobblyas, but it is the only thing that by law we are in fact required to do.Provide our name and address when and if asked for by a member of Police.
I've said this before too and been cried down by the do gooders but here goes again.
Now that we have this other little law that requires us drivers licence holders to have it on us at all times.had we not produced said licence when asked to do so we could have been charged with failing to do so and arrested and carted off, if they thought it was required.
So you see the tools are there to stop almost any sort of gathering in it's tracks if they decide to do so.
On a brighter note, we behaved ourselves, the Indian community saw that and were both grateful and respected our right to be there and ask our questions.
Dpex basically covered everything else that occurred.
Though our numbers were small , we were expected, the local Sgt of Police was a little concerned and acted initially with haste, he settled down when it became obvious we were not there to cause trouble.
Numbers would have been a huge factor, if we'd done exactly what our small group did but with a 100 or more riders there it would have shown Mr English and his Ilk that we are most definitely not going away.
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Are you sure? I would have thought in my naivety that you only need to provide a name or address if you are a suspect for a crime
If your not deemed to be in charge of a motor vehicle you don't have to produce a license. And of course those people who don't have a license are incapable of it.
Lets promote the next one more and get better numbers. I think we got some great mileage at this event.
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I would have thought that you only needed to produce your drivers licence if you were in charge of a motor vehicle, ie pulled over. merely standing around dressed in motor cycle gear is neither here nor there.
DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.
WRONG AGAIN See, we've all been asleep while gubbermint was being sneaky.
Aunty Helens mob put this little gem through.By law if you have a drivers licence and you cant produce it, you have commited a crime.Used to be you had seven days to produce it.
Course here in NZ it'd be a poor example of Law enforcement that actually did this for somone walking down a road minding their own business, or stood around a building dressed in Motorcycle gear.
But no they can if they choose to.
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yes...its a $50 fine.
I had my wallet stolen and its a 2 hour hassle to get a new licence.
Actually easier/cheaper not to bother carrying it.
surely you jest.... I can understand being pulled over and asked to produce a licence but to be parked and asked......
If I was not actually driving/ riding at the time I would refuse to show my licence....as its a drivers licence not a fecking ID card.
I'm looking forward to the day I can call a cop 'son" like they used to do to me...
DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.
Volti, thats my whole point, our drivers licences have become a psuedo ID!
If you have one, you are required by law to have it on you at all times.
If you can't produce it, it's a fine, if you cut up rough about it, it's a visit to the cells and then the Judge, get my drift.
They have been given FAR to big a stick.
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I did ask the cop why they wanted my licence details and the answer I was given was that we all arrived riding bikes and he just wanted to make sure we all had the appropriate licence.
As he answered this he stepped into my personal space -i believe- trying to make me feel threatened which actually made me feel homophobic.
I also had a friendly chat with the "rent a human shield" guy (with the shifty eyes) and asked if he had a gun in his jacket, "i can neither confirm nor deny that" was his response, I think he was being funny, hard to tell since his eyes didn't stop shiftying.
Mike
You were lucky, he's no rent a human shield, he is DPS or more commonly known as a Police Officer attached to the Diplomatic Protection Squad and yes he would have had a gun under his jacket.
Was it the big tall copper with the sgt stripes who stepped into your personal space?
Threaten , No, sus out, scared,worried, nerveous, Yes, an old trick.
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