My reply from Nick Smith.
I think the message is getting through but whether they will act on it remains to be seen.
I guess we need to keep up (step up) the protests.
To my mind the message needs to be "The level of increases is not fair (to anyone - not just bikers)"
Personally I think it needs to be added to fuel costs (whatever the level) the more you ride/drive the more you pay, the bigger and thirstier your transport is the more you pay and if you don't use your transport you don't pay(for those who have more than one bike or car - you don't pay when its not being used!)
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Same as everyone else... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=114190
Treat it with the contempt it deserves.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
If we get 2 the same we can shout Snap!
Thats one of the ideas given at the Bronz meeting but I disagree... it still is unfair... big bikes use more fuel but are they inherently unsafe...? Surely the most "at risk/cost of medical expenses vs ACC levies" are the large number of scooter riders who have never had any two wheel training... If the levy is on fuel these riders get off scott free and become almost like bicycle riders who pay NO levy... 50cc fourstroke scooters use a thimble of fuel a week.. hence no ACC levy to speak of!
Plus does anyone know if scooter accidents are "Motorcycle"? Surely, as at the moment they pay only $70.00 per year, bikers have been subsidising them for years... if Smith says we must pay for the sins of the past (Smith Meeting 30th Nov) then scooter riders MUST be charged a huge amount... which in it's self is as unfair as the current stupid proposal is...
ACC levies should be the same across the board for motor vehicles OR IF indeed ACC is an insurance company as John Judge says it is then we pay individual levy amounts based on risk.. that means someone who is a safe long term rider would pay less.. and a new rider who is more at risk would pay more.
Unfortunately for Judge and Smith ACC stands for Accident Compensation COMMISSION!! It isn't ACIC (Accident compensation insurance company) and how can a commission be a company!
Peter
I cant see any change at all in that letter to the attitude of the government.
Its the same bullshit they have been spouting all along since this started.
We are asked to believe their stats without question, yet we can refute those stats with facts and they dont listen.
Whatever the outcome of this whole thing with ACC, I think that the national party put the rope around their own neck, then Nick Smith opened the trap door.
I think the worst is yet to come, but sadly far too many mainstream Kiwis will just sit back and let it happen....."she'll be right mate"
To be old and wise, first you must be young and stupid.
What is with this prick? An emailed pdf, and then a paper copy in the mail. And right after I said...Is he just trying to let me know that 'they' know where I live? *looks around to see who's watching the house*The 'Hon Nick Smith? I don't think so. I'm glad no paper was used in sending his response. I don't like to think of the waste that would be.
To his reply, I merely respond with BULLSHIT!! Perhaps he has an understanding of what that means. I know he's heard it before.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
I also received letter, via snail mail, I have never received an email response. Maybe didnt want me to reply?
Be I do, maybe not in writing, maybe actions ???????????????
They dont seem to want to listen, maybe our voice isnt loud enough, maybe I need to yell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe I need to draw the dumb fuckers a picture
What people think about me is none of my businessSo tell someone who cares
Same as mine
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