New ACC motorcycle levies confirmed

[Gremlin]

Marine Y2K running on kero should do the trick! or an electric, you able to put the $ increases on that sheet as well as the %

updated the attachment... even made it a bit more pretty with red

[silverbak]

What a bunch of idiots. They pay no attention to the arguments of cc rating over horsepower or increasing levies on petrol to cover those that travel more.. just another complete brainless arbitrary wave of the power wand... roll on the next national protest...

[Naki Rat]

Petrol motorcycles 601cc and over
252.69 745.77 426.92
Non-Petrol motorcycles 601cc and over
392.09 781.12 460.08

Diesel bikes.

That's for when John Deere amalgamates with Hogley Fergusson

[Beemer]

it'd bite those who only have one vehicle in the bum, but I currently have four registered and one on hold (two of which wont be renewed), so I'm all for the license based levy. There is probably the idea that those who have more than one vehicle are financially better off, which is true in some cases but BS in others, my 5 are probly only worth 10k all up, paying over 1k per year to keep em al on the road isn't financially viable for me. On the other hand what if someone only uses a car once or twice a month, which they borrow, still fair to charge them the same as me?

Agreed - we have six bikes and three cars. All three cars are registered all the time as all are needed on a regular basis. Two bikes are always registered all the time, one other is a dirt bike, and the other three are on exemption during the times of the year they are not used. So we will end up paying at least $1500 a year on a regular basis, plus a portion for the other bikes. Not to mention our earner levies, and my levies from self-employment.

Time off work for either of us due to motorcycle (or any vehicle) injuries - nil. Time off work at present from falling down a flight of fucking stairs - three weeks and counting! Additional costs not covered by ACC for said injuries - $135 and I haven't even started physio yet!

[_Shrek_]

We can put the smaller reductions down as a definite win for NZ's biking fraternity - but it is only one battle that we have won - not the war!! The concept of having to pay more at all is still unjustified and needs continued pressure.

We still want a zero increase, we are not Trout, and we are angry... Rev

with you on that, just read the incress on the net

[Thani-B]

Its still a bigger percentage rise than the other road users (except for mopeds), and does in no way fit in with ACC's no fault system. The cc groups are absurd, I ride more carefully on my 650 than I did on my 250. NOT FUCKING HAPPY. Actually I think that a good protest that fucks up heaps of peoples' travel for the day would make me feel better. We tried being nice and it did work but not to the extent we wanted. Im all for pissing off the public now.

[PrincessBandit]

Personally I'm happy to see the $30 going to an injury prevention fund. I have concerns that it will just become a slush fund, but the Minister has indicated that he wishes to work with motorcycling organisations. So, let's wait and see on that.


And - all said and done , we ALL need to remember that the fundamental problem is still there. We are falling off our bikes far too often.

Fix THAT problem and the rest goes away. So, stop bloody falling off, OK ?

Is it really that simple Les? Am I just being a cynical old moo-cow for wondering if they'd really be any nicer to us even if there were zero claims by motorcyclists over the next 12 months? (One can but hope, even if in vain).
I reckon they'd still be eyeing us up as an easy screw.

Won't ever happen. They started down that path with the Direct Access scheme, realised it was encouraging people to buy and ride bikes and withdrew the scheme.

Definitely in line with the "get rid of motorcycles from NZ roads by 2050...

Agreed - we have six bikes and three cars. All three cars are registered all the time as all are needed on a regular basis. Two bikes are always registered all the time, one other is a dirt bike, and the other three are on exemption during the times of the year they are not used. So we will end up paying at least $1500 a year on a regular basis, plus a portion for the other bikes. Not to mention our earner levies, and my levies from self-employment.

Time off work for either of us due to motorcycle (or any vehicle) injuries - nil. Time off work at present from falling down a flight of fucking stairs - three weeks and counting! Additional costs not covered by ACC for said injuries - $135 and I haven't even started physio yet!

Agreed. In 30 odd years of driving and the last 3 on a motorbike as well, this injury from my bike accident in March is the only time I've ever claimed ACC in regard to a vehicle accident. And never had any time off work requiring ACC to pay for loss of earning.

While I realise that my collarbone surgery (had it yesterday morning) combined with the non-effective physio I had for the break earlier in the year was covered by ACC, people like me are a drop in the vast vast ocean of claims. They still need to tighten up on their "rip off" merchants - that alone would save them hundreds of thousands of dollars over a few years, if not millions.

[ManDownUnder]

That's for when John Deere amalgamates with Hogley Fergusson

Hogs 'n Deere? Sounds like a farm...

[RE5Guy]

Why aren't we feeling so gratefull to Mr Smith for generously lowering the rates from ACC recomendations? What a nice guy he really must be.

NOT! I have written to him twice now asking specific questions about the fairness of charging multiple insurance premiums on the one risk when we own more than one bike. Guess what, he hasn't answered.

I think THE major issue here is multiple ownership. It is a huge rip off.

[RentaTriumph]

I withdraw that remark your honour but alas, the stain remains!

Oldest union trick in the book, want 2% ask for 20%, satisfaction @ 5%!

Not impressed with Mr Nick and Co.

Exactly right Oldrider.
Now if we park our bikes up for 6 months of the Year for Winter ACC will be getting a full years registration compared with last year. They have suck holed us big time.
I will protest my vote at the next election by not voting National as I did last election for the 1st time and last time.

[silverbak]

Multiple ownership just means more revenue which is more likely the reason they havent looked at it. I own 3x650 singles.. i scrape into higher levies with low powered bikes. I am very peeved.

[748south]

The thing that Fucks me off is that the media have really been obliviouse to the whole thing really - STILL NO ONE HAS ASKED HIM FACE TO FACE TO JUSTIFY HIS FIGURES and secondly NO MEDIA HAVE ASKED HIM WHY KEEP HITTING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY PAYING A HIGH LEVY NOW IN PROPORTION TO THEIR USAGE and NOT TRY TO COLLECT FROM THE OTHER GROUPS THAT GOBBLE UP ACC FUNDS - RUGBY, SOCCER, NETBALL, DIRTBIKES, MOUNTAIN BIKE, ROAD CYCLISTS!!! FOR FUCK SAKE!!!!!

Have a happy day

[Bounce001]

Can live with the increases if have to but still not happy. Will be much happier when see more motorcyclist safety campaigns. eg big signs on the road: "What's behind you?"

It's the other road users that need educating about motorcyclist awareness.

And when are cyclists going to be registred and come under the motor vehicle pool, after all they are a road user.

[k2w3]

Not happy, either. Any protest action now though will be difficult to justify the reason and keep the public on side. We can argue the toss over changing direction all we like, but the general motoring public won't give a toss. It'll be "those moaning bikers are STILL not happy, greedy fuckers". Therefore if the public aren't on side (and over time will become steadily offside, mark my words), then there's no need to keep them happy.

I think one good strong hit at showing what can be done to slow down a city is worth a shot. And it should be soon, as a direct reaction to the shite decision.

[DEVVIL]

Cool. So it looks like it's ONLY twice as much as the car levy.

Not acceptable.

No it's not acceptable........
Lets keep up the good work for zero increase
NONONO will see you on Saturday with the signs
Dont stop NOW!!!