One for Patrick to answer maybe?

[GOONR]

Am I reading this (Land Transport (Enforcement Powers) Amendment Act 2009) right and this is now law,25 demerit's and only $100...

extract.....

Rebalance penalties for Graduated Driver Licence System (GDLS) breaches

Decrease the infringement fee for all breaches of the conditions of the GDLS from $400 to $100.
Increase the demerit points for breaches of the conditions of the GDLS (other than failing to display an L plate) from 25 to 35 points.

[breakaway]

What's your question?

If you're asking if the fine amount has been reduced and demerits increased, then yes, the fine amount has been reduced and demerits increased.

[GOONR]

What's your question?

If you're asking if the fine amount has been reduced and demerits increased, then yes, the fine amount has been reduced and demerits increased.

Sorry, just to be clear, it implies (to me) that the fine is now $100 (not $400) for all GDLS breaches but the demerits are still 25, not 35 for not displaying an L plate.

So the demerits are the same but the fine is now lower.

[Ixion]

Correct. The fine for all licence condition breaches has been reduced from $400 to $100. The demerit points for all licence condition breaches EXCEPT displaying an L plate has gone from 25 demerits to 35 demerits. GOKW.

[GOONR]

Correct. The fine for all licence condition breaches has been reduced from $400 to $100. The demerit points for all licence condition breaches EXCEPT displaying an L plate has gone from 25 demerits to 35 demerits. GOKW.

Cheers Ixion, Strange one that.

[Hopeful Bastard]

So if i am doing 100km without my L on the back, I only get 25 demerits and w/e the cost of the ticket for speeding? As well as the demerits for speeding?

[Latte]

Slight Hijack here. If I'm on my 6L and get caught riding after 10pm and riding a >250cc bike do I get dome twice? (ie $200 and 70 demerits, or $100 and 35 demerits).

[GOONR]

So if i am doing 100km without my L on the back, I only get 25 demerits and w/e the cost of the ticket for speeding? As well as the demerits for speeding?

If I'm right you will get 35 demerits + $100 for over the 70kph plus another 25 demerits + $100 for no L plate.

[MSTRS:Me]

So if i am doing 100km without my L on the back, I only get 25 demerits and w/e the cost of the ticket for speeding? As well as the demerits for speeding?

It's not classed as 'speeding'...it is a breach of licence conditions (same as no L, carrying pillion, outside hours, >250)

Each condition broken attracts a fine and demerits. That is how some have racked up $1600 (or more) in one stop.
Possibly only one lot of demerits would be applied.
With the reduction of the fine amount, it is likely that transgressors be hit with the full amount of demerits??

[crazyhorse]

well this puts paid to the question asked on here a while back of "how many of you have L plates"?

More demerits might encourage more plates to be used. Its only for 6 months anyway, so harden up and avoid the penalties

[Ixion]

Slight Hijack here. If I'm on my 6L and get caught riding after 10pm and riding a >250cc bike do I get dome twice? (ie $200 and 70 demerits, or $100 and 35 demerits).

$200 and 35 demerits. As a matter of policy (not law) the police only apply demerits to one offence in a multi offence stop. But the fines are cumulative.

[SPORK]

Welp - I'm riding after 10pm now, I'll tell you that much. On the motorway.

I'm a danger to society, I tell ya.

[avgas]

while it is good that the fine has been decreased - the usual reason why this happens is it will no longer be a 'discretionary' thing.

So from now on if cop busts you, runs plate.....they will HAVE to check you have all your restrictions in order.
Don't be too surprised if the fancy new computer cars will prompt them to check this. Very similar to McD's "Would you like fries with that".

Very share of wallet strategy.

[Patrick]

Am I reading this (Land Transport (Enforcement Powers) Amendment Act 2009) right and this is now law,25 demerit's and only $100...

extract.....

Rebalance penalties for Graduated Driver Licence System (GDLS) breaches

Decrease the infringement fee for all breaches of the conditions of the GDLS from $400 to $100.
Increase the demerit points for breaches of the conditions of the GDLS (other than failing to display an L plate) from 25 to 35 points.

Yes.

So if i am doing 100km without my L on the back, I only get 25 demerits and w/e the cost of the ticket for speeding? As well as the demerits for speeding?

No. $100 for exceeding the 70 speed limit and $100 for no Lplate, plus the 35 demerits for the exceeding 70, no further demerits for the L plate.

Slight Hijack here. If I'm on my 6L and get caught riding after 10pm and riding a >250cc bike do I get dome twice? (ie $200 and 70 demerits, or $100 and 35 demerits).

As above. Two fines, one lump of demerits. The larger of whatever one is trying to collect so willingly......

$200 and 35 demerits. As a matter of policy (not law) the police only apply demerits to one offence in a multi offence stop. But the fines are cumulative.

Wot E sed......

Welp - I'm riding after 10pm now, I'll tell you that much. On the motorway.

I'm a danger to society, I tell ya.

Yes. Yes you are. I am short on quota. Who are you, where do you live and when and where did this occur....?

while it is good that the fine has been decreased - the usual reason why this happens is it will no longer be a 'discretionary' thing.

So from now on if cop busts you, runs plate.....they will HAVE to check you have all your restrictions in order.
Don't be too surprised if the fancy new computer cars will prompt them to check this. Very similar to McD's "Would you like fries with that".

Very share of wallet strategy.

LOL.....

"HAVE" to????

It's business as usual. The worse the attitude from the stoppee, the harder the stopper one looks. A warning for a breach, perhaps a ticket for one offence (even though multiples were committed) by someone with good attitude, or writers cramp for those with a bad attitude.

Fancy new computor cars????

Not down here.

[Hopeful Bastard]

So if i get done with a bigger fine and more demerits, Can i quote what you said or point them in the direction of this thread and tell them that YOU said that??