Who really does 70 on learners?

**LBD** · 22nd January 2010, 07:10

I will probably still be on my learners when I am 70.....

**The Everlasting** · 22nd January 2010, 07:21

Originally Posted by Thaeos

That's pretty shocking if they try to pass you in the same lane. I'm guessing you need to take a more assertive position in the lane so they can't do that? Right wheel track it says in the road code...

Yeah I know the road code,I have had cars pass me on the right and left side,they couldn't be bothered changing lanes,that's the reason i now travel at a 100 on the motorway.

**Genie** · 25th January 2010, 20:07

I have to say....not me.
I am so struggling...holding up the traffic sucks.
I feel like they all hate me for making them go slow, I'm as far over as I can safely go without riding on the gravel.
So what do I do, I go faster. Plus I do like going faster. Plus, my bike doesn't like slow.
I had every intention of being a good girl out there and I'm failing.
I think I will be like many before and those to follow, I will remove my pretty bright yellow tag, I was so proud of my tag and now - it's just annoying!!

**The Everlasting** · 25th January 2010, 20:21

Ripped my L-Plate off a few weeks ago,i don't see it going back on anytime soon.

**Genie** · 25th January 2010, 20:28

Originally Posted by The Everlasting

Ripped my L-Plate off a few weeks ago,i don't see it going back on anytime soon.

I'd be thinking it would only go back on for the restricted test!!!!

**Mikkel** · 25th January 2010, 20:41

Originally Posted by p.dath

This tired argument again.

So you think because someone has had a car licence for 15 years they should automatically get a motorcycle licence with no restrictions?

The licence restrictions aren't for a huge period of time compared to the length of time you could be riding for over the rest of your life. Is it really such a big deal to travel on lower speed roads for a short period of time just while you get your skills up?

And is it really such a big deal that you don't ride after 10pm - just while you are learning essential riding skills that may well save your life later on?

Are you going to put forward the ridiculous argument that learning these skills while riding as fast as you can, at 100km/h, is the best way to go? Not even someone learning to ride a push bike does that. You start of at slower speeds and then build up.

Have you got any other great ideas on ways to kill leaner riders?

I have a great idea for you: try to read and] understand what you reply to. I specifically said that the learners period (Not the restricted!) doesn't make sense when you have already got extensive experience in traffic.

Telling grown ups that they can't ride between 10 pm and 5 am is ridiculous. It has nothing to do with conditions - i.e. the restriction doesn't say "not allowed to ride between sundown and sunrise".

I am not at all advocating that people should leave their comfort zone - but, suggesting that everybody's comfort zone stops at 70 km/h and they won't be able to exercise sound judgement beyond that point is ludicrous.

I'll say it again, learner restrictions are designed with teenagers in mind who are taking their first steps into the pulverising life of motoring. The 6R restrictions are all, except the curfew, sound restrictions that will allow you to learn how operate a motorcycle without getting in over your head.

And since you mention it, could you please provide the number of learner riders who died on their bikes last year? Can you tell me how many died because they breached their license restrictions? And was the restriction they breached a 6L or a 6R restriction? I somehow doubt anyone died because they drove without an L-plate or because they drove between 10 pm and 5 am. So pull your head out of your arse and stop implying that I am trying to kill new riders by giving bad advice.

The truly dangerous newbies are the ones who don't even bother with the license and just buys some 250+ km/h rocket and wing it. I.e. the ones who fail to think...

**p.dath** · 26th January 2010, 07:53