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    False radar beams?

    Found this link on another forum, seems as though ACC has paid to have some radar beam senders installed at some accident black spots around auckland that send out a radar beam to trick drivers/riders with radar detectors.

    Good to see that levy money going to a good cause...

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    Is there also one on the motorway into Christchurch from the north? My detector always goes off at the same spot and I haven't seen a cop there yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Is there also one on the motorway into Christchurch from the north?
    Quite probably, they have gone up all over the country over the last 12 months, including some a bit closer to home. I don't have a detector so it doesn't bother me, but next time yours goes off look for a device similar to the one in the link at the side of the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Is there also one on the motorway into Christchurch from the north? My detector always goes off at the same spot and I haven't seen a cop there yet.
    Malcolm, one near our place does the same. It shows up as Ka microwave. Now here's the odd thing.... it's in the hills just south of Coromandel and the only thing nearby is one of these new age quasi-religious retreats that seems to have plenty of money. I wonder just what sort of communications or electronics gear they need to talk to God? Hope it isn't another Waco in the making!

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    Quote Originally Posted by k14 View Post
    ..., seems as though ACC has paid to have some radar beam senders installed at some accident black spots around auckland that send out a radar beam to trick drivers/riders with radar detectors.

    Good to see that levy money going to a good cause...
    Yep. ACC's first guideline is 'accident prevention'.
    But unless these devices are moved about the place, I think TheBoyWhoCriedWolf will be paying a visit to regular motorists in those areas.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Sounds like a bloody good idea to me. If people would rather slow down in case they get fined and lose some $$$, rather than slow down in case they crash and lose their life, so be it.
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    What a good idea. Instead of spending money on driver/rider education and training, why not spend money on things like this. Hopefully the hillbillies will use them for target practice instead of signposts.
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    I wondered what that was. I found one last summer way out in the boondox north of Kerikeri. Oddly, about 5km down the road there was a patrol unit ticketing someone with a trailer - no microwave signal.

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    Oh, and Cobra have been selling drones disguised as radar detectors for quite a while too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    What a good idea. Instead of spending money on driver/rider education and training, why not spend money on things like this. Hopefully the hillbillies will use them for target practice instead of signposts.
    There are plenty of rider training opportunities out there, but we all think we are so damn good, how many of us have taken them up?

    ACC spends money on training, it's getting the right people to do the training that's the challenge. The people who actually seek out training are not normally the ones who have the problem. They are psychologically aware of their shortcomings, and generally factor them in. The big issue is the tossers who think they are so flash on a bike that they don't need the training.

    So there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    The big issue is the tossers who think they are so flash on a bike that they don't need the training. So there.
    There is not really any opportunity to disagree with any of your post.

    I am puzzled about how they will do that. The only way I see it, is to change the licensing process. No one wants to go to boring go-to-sleep condescending "training" courses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    There are plenty of rider training opportunities out there, but we all think we are so damn good, how many of us have taken them up?

    ACC spends money on training, it's getting the right people to do the training that's the challenge. The people who actually seek out training are not normally the ones who have the problem. They are psychologically aware of their shortcomings, and generally factor them in. The big issue is the tossers who think they are so flash on a bike that they don't need the training.

    So there.
    I am becoming somewhat disillusioned with the whole training thing. The problem is that the great majority of crashes (both bikes and cars) are not due to the driver lacking the skill to adequately control the vehicle. They are caused by people (both cagers and bikers) doing bloody stupid shit.

    Take for instance that perennial, the driver (or rider) crossing the centre line through a bend . Mostly (not always, granted) the solution to that is not to train the driver/rider how to go round corners better. The solution is for the driver/rider not to attempt to go rounds corners at such bloody silly speeds. I guarantee that 9 times out of 10 if you asked the centre line crosser "how did that happen" , if they were honst they would reply "oh I was trying to see how fast I could go". There are exceptions, where a corner is deceptive, and training would help, but mostly it is just people being fools.

    And the head on crashes when people overtake - what training is going to rectify that.

    You can't train people not to be fools. They know they ought not to do it, but do it anyway.
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    So to paraphrase...speed causes you to do silly things that endanger you and others, and will often kill or maim you.

    And to be perennial it is a constantly occuring problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
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    Take for instance that perennial, the driver (or rider) crossing the centre line through a bend . Mostly (not always, granted) the solution to that is not to train the driver/rider how to go round corners better. The solution is for the driver/rider not to attempt to go rounds corners at such bloody silly speeds. I guarantee that 9 times out of 10 if you asked the centre line crosser "how did that happen" , if they were honst they would reply "oh I was trying to see how fast I could go". There are exceptions, where a corner is deceptive, and training would help, but mostly it is just people being fools.

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