Next BIG Protest with StoneY and the Unions

[Scuba_Steve]

Ive said it before and Ill say it again.

If you want to make a mark.. You have to do something distruptive. Revolt.

Yep I agree, time for a coup

[cowboyz]

Yep I agree, time for a coup

with chickens?

[CherryB]

We need a team of people to stand forward and volunteer to share the load in different areas to plan these protests.

Volunteers: say your region and ideas, 'skill areas' (things you know how to do that might be useful, useful contacts, etc) in a PM to Bald Eagle.

The idea about laps of the city is one that the peaceful protest organisers have looked at for next steps too.

This could be coordinated around the country.

It would also be useful to find out about places that Government will be and have small but loud and visible groups pushing one message at a time, esp events that will get media coverage. Let's do up some posters that people can store in their bike or backpack and pull out if the Govt turns up.

We also need some clear messages to help get joe and jane public to realise they can and should do something. Cos the media and others aren't doing enough. And we need them to "get it". They don't want or need to be 'educated', just get across what they need to know that affects them and will piss them off/make them think.

Some of these messages, picking a suitable one for each occasion.
- losing your holiday pay (and even Treasury say that is unjust)
- losing some of your cover and treatment
- higher levies out of your wages and regos when ACC is taking in far more than it spends already.
- we're going to end up having to sue each other again if this carries on.

Asking to get:
· One levy rate for all!
· Levies kept down to what is needed.
· Our holiday pay kept out of ACC.
· Treatment where it is needed.

[Stormer]

Right, I`ll try uploading these pics again...

Pic 1: The 4th ACC protest the blue Gixxer and it`s pilot have been to.
Pic 2: the Poetic Protester being shut down...the law turned up a short time later.
Pic 3: Cannot recall who the speaker was, but said some good stuff.
Pic 4: I now know this is the infamous Fat Max...the crowd loved ya dude!!
Pic 5: HA!! Sorry StoneY, no pics of your most fine performance...just call it payback for making me park CLOSER to that Harley! (A you-had-to-be-there type thing before anyone gets there tits all knotted up)

[Pedrostt500]

The Reality is that the General public in NZ suffers from a major dose of Appathy, This is nothing new, it has been the Kiwi diesease for a number of decades.
Do you realy think the Government gives a fuck if you have rolling stops in the streets of any town or city, the answer is no, you might temporarily piss off Joe and Jane Public, but they are more worried about whats for dinner.
If you want the Politicans to notice you then you need to be where they are, Find a reason to visit your MP every time He / She is in your electorate, Go to Parliment and sit in the Public Gallery in your Bike Gear. If any Political party is having an event any where turn up with a dozen or more bikes and make yourselves seen.
Blocked streets in Wellington is a bit of a fact of life, most Wellingtonians accept traffic delays for what ever reason, Manning the Baracades may serve a few romantic fantasies, but I doubt they would serve any great blow to ACC and the Government, though Knock your selves out and I won't stand in your way, if you want to realy baracade Molesworth street with your Bikes.
Our fight with ACC and the Government is going to be a long game, it may play out long beyond the next election, a change of Government may not mean a change in Policey.

[blossomsowner]

We need a team of people to stand forward and volunteer to share the load in different areas to plan these protests.




It would also be useful to find out about places that Government will be and have small but loud and visible groups pushing one message at a time, esp events that will get media coverage. Let's do up some posters that people can store in their bike or backpack and pull out if the Govt turns up.

We also need some clear messages to help get joe and jane public to realise they can and should do something. Cos the media and others aren't doing enough. And we need them to "get it". They don't want or need to be 'educated', just get across what they need to know that affects them and will piss them off/make them think.

If there is interest for a demonstration of some sort.........
john key is supposed to be at patumahoe school officially opening the new admin block on march 12th at about 2.00pm

country school near pukekohe.............plenty of room for lots of bikes and banners.

[Owl]

A “Real Protest” could shut down Wellington very easily. Just need about 200 bikers, real bikers and not the pathetic “don’t upset the public mob”. A lot of opportunities have gone to waste, especially when about 6,000 bikers were available in Wellington last year.
Maybe I will come across some bikers with real balls at this weeks HOG Rally!

A Hog member mentioned this plan to me back in November, after the Bikeoi, which he didn't attend. A "cunning plan" involving a rather large roundabout near Wellington and 200 bikes going round and round and round. So if this plan was hatched 3 months ago, why haven't you and your hardcore brethren been able to organise such a simple task in such a long period of time?

Just curious!

[riffer]

Had an idea for how to get public and news media's attention especially after seeing the naked bicyclist on the telly news (is THAT news?).

Nudity is bloody good at getting you noticed. We get a few hundred bikers, topless riding through the city. We proclaim "ACC is taking the shirts off our backs". Obviously works better if we have lots of female bikers too (although some of us have some pretty good man tits right now LOL).

I reckon we're guaranteed TV exposure with this. Trouble is, who's brave enough to do it. I would but hey I'm a guy. We need some brave women too...

[Hopeful Bastard]

Had an idea for how to get public and news media's attention especially after seeing the naked bicyclist on the telly news (is THAT news?).

Nudity is bloody good at getting you noticed. We get a few hundred bikers, topless riding through the city. We proclaim "ACC is taking the shirts off our backs". Obviously works better if we have lots of female bikers too (although some of us have some pretty good man tits right now LOL).

I reckon we're guaranteed TV exposure with this. Trouble is, who's brave enough to do it. I would but hey I'm a guy. We need some brave women too...

If there are other guys with man boobs then i will raise my hand for this. Also need somewhere to store my top and jacket..

[riffer]

If there are other guys with man boobs then i will raise my hand for this. Also need somewhere to store my top and jacket..

Mate - most of us over 35 have 'em.

[Laxi]

If there are other guys with man boobs then i will raise my hand for this. Also need somewhere to store my top and jacket..

Mate - most of us over 35 have 'em.

ouch! BURRRRRN!!!

[sunhuntin]

I reckon we're guaranteed TV exposure with this. Trouble is, who's brave enough to do it. I would but hey I'm a guy. We need some brave women too...

i would, but last time i forgot to wear a bra, i near knocked myself out on the bumps. lol. maybe ask that pron king guy if we could borrow some of his boobs on bikes girls?

[Mcycle]

On that note, John Key is scheduled to play golf in Napier on Saturday....anyone want to have a round?

As I see it, yesterday's protest was not a fail.
We said we'd be back, and we delivered!
We said we wouldn't go away, and we turned up again.
We said we weren't trout....we didn't forget that the country is being shafted.
How can that be a fail!

The latest protest was excellent, well done Stoney (and team) and don't let any negative wankers put you off the great work you are doing.

I look forward to the next protest and add my name to the support committee!

I agree that the next protest should be HUGE and disruptive (no more nice guys) in the meantime, I won't be paying no additonal ACC

[gazmascelle]

Had an idea for how to get public and news media's attention especially after seeing the naked bicyclist on the telly news (is THAT news?).

Nudity is bloody good at getting you noticed. We get a few hundred bikers, topless riding through the city. We proclaim "ACC is taking the shirts off our backs". Obviously works better if we have lots of female bikers too (although some of us have some pretty good man tits right now LOL).

I reckon we're guaranteed TV exposure with this. Trouble is, who's brave enough to do it. I would but hey I'm a guy. We need some brave women too...

Good call. Why spend shitloads on big screen ads etc when you get get your shirt off for free, and probably get a whole lot more attention (which is obviously what we need)

[Robert Taylor]

I disagree with the extent of the increase but undeniably like many other activities motorcyclists need to clean their act up

How many kids do you see riding scooters in shorts and jandals at this time of year? Answer way too many.

How many bikes that are ridden on the road are not in a fit condition to do so?

How many young idiots ride bikes at crazy speeds in built up areas?

How many bikes are too noisy and cause offence, thereby alienating the same everyday people who may otherwise deliver a level of support?

Etc.....

Im not bashing bikers and indeed I derive my income from same, just stating some relevant points.

In spite of denials to the contrary this campaign has to a degree been kidnapped by left wing activists and I see also Union support has been sanctioned. This should be apolitical on the part of bikers, many of whom like me are instinctive National voters and will still vote National regardless