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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    FORK SPRINGS...........................

    I have identified the fork spring series required and I have these in an Ohlins series and I can sell you these inclusive of spacer tube ( and instructions plus telephone support ) at an attractive price. Part of the reason for that is you have been a very decent human being, theres a message in that remark which I make no apology for.

    50% or so of the problem is spring rate and 50% of the remaining problem is poor hydraulic control that can be fixed by installing genuine RACE TECH Emulators. When changing springs only a certain rate is required, when combining with emulators it is arguable that you can run a slightly softer spring rate as there is now control over the ''rate of change of position'' So, if later on you decide you have the budget for emulators we will exchange the springs for a slightly softer rate.

    A word about these Ohlins springs, arguably they are the very best springs available ( yes better again than Race Tech ) as the length tolerancing and rate tolerancing are very very precise. The polish process is much better and that allied with ends that are square means there is less sidethrust and friction rubbing against the internal fork tube walls
    These particular ones have their rates indelibly laser etched on their ends which makes it quick and a no brainer to identify their rate. Ink as used by other manufacturers rubs off in short order.

    Ohlins also do a number of fork spring kits for popular road bikes ( and dirt bikes ) that are a preset length and can be combined with the standard spacer tubes etc, so there is no laborious working out of preload, cutting of preload spacers and recutting, all the work is done. Unfortunately they dont do them for every make and model as it would be commercial suicide. But it sure makes life easy for everyone where they do have a listing for you. Other spring manufacturers such as Race Tech, Eibach etc generally only do them in generic lengths which dont match oem

    A word about Race Tech Emulators. Race Tech make the only emulator that works properly and is long term reliable and has proper backup in this country. We always change the poppett springs according to the application and damping feel required, in special circumstances such as Pro Twin racing we adjust the bleed hole size, very easy when you have a workable and easy material, brass.

    Libel laws preclude me naming but theres some cheap and cheerful mainland Asian emulators on the market. We surreptitiously purchased and tested a set some months back;

    Dissapointment number 1, the bleed hole sizing was too large giving sloppy damping. As the material is aluminium alloy you simply cannot solder it up, youd have to drill and tap to accept interchangeable jets. So not so user friendly

    Dissapointment number 2, the base material is alloy with a thin anodised coating which over not too much time will wear through to the soft underbelly. Emulators sit inside the top well of the damper rod and in more than 50% of cases it doesnt sit square to the inner wall of the fork tube. The emultor is locked in place by the preload of the fork spring sitting right on top of it and many cheaper fork springs are not square and can also be a little sharp on their edges. That means the anodising can wear through in short order and once soft alloy is exposed chards of alloy find their way into the fork oil and very often end up deposited in the teflon outer coating of fork bushings. Not good

    Dissapointment number 3, The poppet springs sack out and there is then no damping. f you remove a poppet spring and compress it as fully as you can with your fingers it doesnt return to its original length! We know because we tried and the length returned to was only 2/3rds of original.

    If you pay cheap theres usually some insidious reason such as really bad quality and material choices.
    Those USA inter webby never offered anything like that sort of info. Cheers RT. PM Sent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
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    Fucken bullshit!
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    Don't talk crap, Robert!!
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    The thing is this guy blatently came onto here and istantly put a dig in at Robert by saying Race Tech NZ that is a big hint to Robert and this guy knew it,

    Then when Robert says Ungentlemanly he goes off the rails about how Robert is rude and then calling people Prima-Dona Dwarves etc this guy is honestly the biggest cock to engrace kiwi biker ever

    He contradicts himself so much this Viscount
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post
    The thing is this guy blatently came onto here and istantly put a dig in at Robert by saying Race Tech NZ that is a big hint to Robert and this guy knew it,

    Then when Robert says Ungentlemanly he goes off the rails about how Robert is rude and then calling people Prima-Dona Dwarves etc this guy is honestly the biggest cock to engrace kiwi biker ever

    He contradicts himself so much this Viscount

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    Quote Originally Posted by pc220 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount Montgomery View Post
    Mr know-it-all with all the answers still on his high horse eh?

    Wow Vicunt is in desperate need of either a hug or a blowjob. I would take his comments as a compliment RT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwaka_crasher View Post
    I really don't care if Robert Taylor wants to (or has to) charge more for the Racetech product. People will decide for themselves if the added value is worthwhile to them.

    But I do care about Racetech refusing to selll to international customers just because they have an agent here. I wouldn't use them on that basis alone. Sure, CKT may have to recoup the cost of any agency fees and training they may be obliged to undertake etc. but that's up to CKT to determine if being a Racetech agent is worth it's while to them based on customers willingness to pay the extra for the service.
    I don't get it. Do you buy your TV direct from the manufacturer , or your car or your motorcycle perhaps you would like to stop buying petrol on the basis that you can't get it direct from the refinery. I don't see a difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    The spring manufacturers here often make a nice job but you also have to be wary about the source of the material, most of the top quality material comes from Germany and Sweden. I think a lot of the material that is used here may not be up to spec as I have seen and heard of many locally made springs sacking out quickly. Please someone tell me if youve had better results?
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