What's going to happen?

[Mudfart]

Ok, this thread is hopefully going to provide information to noob riders about what happens when you ride bikes. Its not to put people off riding, its to prevent them browning their trowsers, when it does happen.
I was always told, if you are ever going to ride, you WILL come off at some time. It hasn't happened yet, and since my rear wheel slip incident, I'm riding more cautiously.
So, my example and information is as follows: I have just done over 1000kms on my bike and just got restricted now, so I'm very noob.
I was riding to work on the waikato expressway when it started to lightly drizzle rain.
I was cranking on the speed doing about 120kph, when coming over a crest, I hit a huge patch of tar bleed and my revs shot up, loss of traction to rear wheel, and I felt the rear go from left to right. I shut off the throttle, came out of the tar bleed at 100kph, and was all good.
My question to those lifetime riders is, what other funny things can I expect to experience while riding? Also, I understand the rear wheel can move alot, especially on much more powerful bikes, but its always sweet and under control aye?

[Jantar]

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I was riding to work on the waikato expressway when it started to lightly drizzle rain.
I was cranking on the speed doing about 120kph, when coming over a crest, I hit a huge patch of tar bleed and my revs shot up, loss of traction to rear wheel, and I felt the rear go from left to right. I shut off the throttle, came out of the tar bleed at 100kph, and was all good......

You were very lucky in that you regained traction while the bike was lined up where you wanted to go. A frequent outcome of shutting the throttle when you lose traction on the rear wheel is a high side get off where you are thrown from the bike. This is often the result if you lose traction while cornering and shut the throttle. A steady throttle and little reaction is much safer. This loss of traction is often just momentary (unless its a long wide tar snake). Just be ready to react quickly if the bike lurches when the rear wheel grips once again.

[Slyer]

I've never had that problem with the rear tyre before. What tyres are you running?
Also remember than just when it starts raining after being fine for a few days is the time when the road is at its slipperiest.

[Eyegasm]

I'm not saying I am a godsend far from it but...

You've only done 1000kms, you were speeding, and it only just started to rain.

Mate you were very lucky. Buy me a lotto ticket will ya, Cheers!

[Ixion]

120 in early rain. Hm. All them cheesecutters there , too. Hm. Very lucky you didn't have to brake hard, wasn't it? Maybe its time to restock the Gene-O-Kleen ("Evolution you can see" - now in the giant economy bottle)

[Mudfart]

well im running the factory kwaka tyres, as the bike is brand new. I figure on that particular patch of tar, it wont matter what bike, or tyres etc you have, its a deadly piece of road. Now when I ride this area of expressway, I am constantly on the lookout for these dangerous areas, and there is a lot of them! God help the guy passing through at night that doesn't know the road. Hurry up and fix it, works infrastructure!
really dodgy, with having the cheese cutters for a barrier too. Almost as if they WANT people to die!
The reason I made this post is because I asked a guy if he has regular experiences with rear tyre slide, and he says it happens a fair bit with wet roads, paint on roads, tar etc..... and he rides like a nanna.

[mynameis]

I am surprised you shut the throttle and didn't come off Brainfart

[CookMySock]

I was always told, if you are ever going to ride, you WILL come off at some time. It hasn't happened yet, and since my rear wheel slip incident, I'm riding more cautiously.

I am fond of the way of thinking "you will always get what you believe you will get", so I do not agree with your suggestion. Perhaps you are right, but thats not the point.

I was cranking on the speed doing about 120kph, when coming over a crest, I hit a huge patch of tar bleed and my revs shot up, loss of traction to rear wheel, and I felt the rear go from left to right. I shut off the throttle, came out of the tar bleed at 100kph, and was all good.

On a 250cc bike? I'd say more like you hit a patch of diesel.

My question to those lifetime riders is, what other funny things can I expect to experience while riding? Also, I understand the rear wheel can move alot, especially on much more powerful bikes, but its always sweet and under control aye?

I'm not a lifetime rider, but the exposure you have had to a slide, is a valuable lesson to do nothing and don't panic in a slide.

The more you try and contribute to fixing a slide, the more you are going to make it worse - for the foreseeable future anyway. Perhaps when you have extensive experience in the slide you might no better than your tyres.

The other thing is, most slides are over in the blink of an eye well before even your first arse clench, so it's not like you have much say in it anyway.

Also on the track, you discover that the bike wants to shimmy, slide, and headshake all the time, and pretty much you can just let it, as long as you stay on the bike and don't panic.

Steve

[breakaway]

Have had the rear let loose many times on my GSXR 1000. It's important to try to bring it back under control smoothly. Any sudden control inputs (be it brakes, throttle, lean) when the bike is upset have the potential to end very badly.

[george formby]

Have had the rear let loose many times on my GSXR 1000. It's important to try to bring it back under control smoothly. Any sudden control inputs (be it brakes, throttle, lean) when the bike is upset have the potential to end very badly.

Smooth & balanced. Look how many racers have been flipped off their bikes only to have the bike happily carry on upright down the track. They like being upright & will try their best to stay in that position.
I would say, Mudfart, that if you intend spending a lot of time on a bike then you will often be suprised by what is just out of sight. Always expect the unexpected. The roads are crap & nobody cares about bikes. As a rule, comic strip Super heroes don't ride bike's, they are to dangerous. Keep riding & never stop thinking & learning.

[kiwifruit]

Get yourself on a dirt bike in a paddock and have a play

[avgas]

My recommendation is to find out if you can push your limits with the rear spinning out.
I did and it was the best learning experience I have ever had. It quickly became integrated into my riding and driving

[Ender EnZed]

its a deadly piece of road. Now when I ride this area of expressway, I am constantly on the lookout for these dangerous areas, and there is a lot of them! God help the guy passing through at night that doesn't know the road.

Be very careful if you ever decide to try an actual road.

[george formby]

Get yourself on a dirt bike in a paddock and have a play

Thats how I learnt, losing the front, the back, both, over the handlebars & covered in mud. Brilliant fun & you become instinctive with balance & control

[Mudfart]

I was told the best way to learn to drive a car and control it, was to do burnouts, handbrakes, donuts etc, I found this was true.
I'm seriously thinking you guys are right, that the same applies to bikes. Perhaps I need to a burnout for starters aye?
I'm also considering doing some kind of riding course, I was hoping for hampton downs racetrack, coz i live real close, but ive been told you need full license to go on it! d'oh!
I reckon doing the stage 1 of corning at california riding school would help loads.