Payout for a police pasting

**Indoo** · 27th March 2010, 09:12

Originally Posted by peasea

There will be no disciplinary action so they are not likely to a) give a fuck and b) change their ways. .

"Internal disciplinary charges were also laid and Mr Parsons resigned from the police before the tribunal hearing. Mr Mills and Mr Busby were transferred from Whakatane, and Mr Busby was demoted in rank from sergeant to senior constable.

Mr Laing was found guilty of two breaches of police rules but resigned before any penalty was imposed."

Two forced out while the other two whom I'm guessing had the lesser degree of culpability stripped of rank and transferred.

**scumdog** · 27th March 2010, 09:35

Originally Posted by peasea

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There will be no disciplinary action so they are not likely to a) give a fuck and b) change their ways.

Wanna bet??

**scumdog** · 27th March 2010, 09:40

Originally Posted by peasea

When I was teenager our local bobby used to check us out round the bays (Wellington, out past Worser Bay etc) on Friday and Saturday nights. To prevent us from drinking and driving he'd take our piss off us. No charges, no pepper spray and no drunk drivers. Sure, it pissed us off at the time and I've no doubt the piss ended up at the police bar but not a bad idea eh? That guy knew shit from chewed dates.

Nowadays 15 year old Tarquins mum would come down to the station sceeching like a banshee about her darlings rights yadda yadda yadda..

When I was young the same owuld have happened to me as happened to you (not at Worser Bay though) and if my old man had found out I'd have literaly got a boot up the backside from him.

Our softy goody two-shoes hippy libera- tree-hugging homosexual-whale-saving society has made sure their little darlings know/have too many rights with no responsibility/consequences.

**Skyryder** · 27th March 2010, 09:43

Originally Posted by Hans

Yes, they do have the upper hand. Unfortunately. And something needs to be done about that. However, my other point is, that compared to what I grew up with, there seems to be very little accountability for the cops. I have heard about any number a of cases, where the cops fucked up (whether deliberately or not) and nothing happened to them.

Just off topic here a bit............but what happened to the cop who was booked going thru a yellow in her own time and the Union was going to pay for her defence.

Did the Uhion pay for here defence and did she get off or not.

Anyone know

Skyryder

**Maha** · 27th March 2010, 09:51

$200,000 in damages??

damages? what damages? sore eyes for an hour or two?

He wouldn't last in Aussie.

**cindymay** · 27th March 2010, 10:09

Originally Posted by scumdog

You have a point - but at present the shit-heads have the upper hand when it comes to attacks on law officers.

I love listening to the dialogue on Yankee cop shows, ya never hear the shitheads there saying 'fuck you' and 'wanker' etc to the cops - it's 'yessir' and 'sorry sir' and the tension/assault level seems waay down compared to NZ.

NZ and Aus seem similar in attitude. I have wondered what it is that makes crims in US so respectful.

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Dress it up however you like the court does not share your veiw.

What does that tell you?

Originally Posted by marty

The NZ 'Justice' system also thinks David Bain is not guilty, so there's your starting point.

I thought is was a jury and they never make a mistake. It will be interesting to see if the QC agrees with the jury decision when it comes to handing out compensation.

**peasea** · 27th March 2010, 10:17

Originally Posted by Indoo

"Internal disciplinary charges were also laid and Mr Parsons resigned from the police before the tribunal hearing. Mr Mills and Mr Busby were transferred from Whakatane, and Mr Busby was demoted in rank from sergeant to senior constable.

Mr Laing was found guilty of two breaches of police rules but resigned before any penalty was imposed."

Two forced out while the other two whom I'm guessing had the lesser degree of culpability stripped of rank and transferred.

Still no 'real world' penalty. Ok, you can bleat on about career etc but where's the fine, the PD or whatever Joe Public would have got? Nowhere, that's where.

**peasea** · 27th March 2010, 10:19

Originally Posted by scumdog

Wanna bet??

I'd put money it, yes.
I still say they wouldn't give a fuck and I still say they won't change. That sort of behaviour is (most likely) in their blood.
As for discipline, see post 97.

**Indoo** · 27th March 2010, 10:37

Originally Posted by peasea

Still no 'real world' penalty. Ok, you can bleat on about career etc but where's the fine, the PD or whatever Joe Public would have got? Nowhere, that's where.

Joe Public doesn't get a fine or punishment from the courts if 12 fellow Joe Publics find them not guiltyr. Infact Joe Public wouldn't end up out of a job either.

**peasea** · 27th March 2010, 10:51

Originally Posted by Indoo

Joe Public doesn't get a fine or punishment from the courts if 12 fellow Joe Publics find them not guiltyr. Infact Joe Public wouldn't end up out of a job either.

Joe Public doesn't have the power to lock people up and pepper spray the living snot out of them either.

**SixPackBack** · 27th March 2010, 11:08

Originally Posted by peasea

SPB can lick his own bollocks???
Lucky bastard!

Ignore mark, hes suffering a terminal case of misplaced anger. Being seriously owned and the threat of litigation [not to mention constant nagging from the wife], would do that to anyone.

Originally Posted by cindymay

NZ and Aus seem similar in attitude. I have wondered what it is that makes crims in US so respectful.

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The states has serious issues that are not being sorted by either the appearance of respect, or overwhelming numbers of inmates that grow at an exponential rate. What it says for their system is violence begets violence, and that being to scared to voice an opinion should in no way be confused for respect.

**SixPackBack** · 27th March 2010, 11:14

Originally Posted by DMNTD

Fark that...a slap up would've been better if he was resisting...imo.
Stupid tree huggers should realise that an A to Z education would be far better than that freaking pepper spray...imo.

"Rawiri Falwasser was arrested on Labour Day 2006 on suspicion of stealing a neighbour's car. He had not been in trouble with police before and was later diagnosed as having a psychotic episode, despite having no history of mental illness."

Great way to treat a 'patient'!..........Obviously the guy needed medical attention and not a beating.

**slofox** · 27th March 2010, 11:24

Originally Posted by scumdog

Our softy goody two-shoes hippy libera- tree-hugging homosexual-whale-saving society has made sure their little darlings know/have too many rights with no responsibility/consequences.

Geez, Scummy - go easy - you'll make yourself sound ike a redneck..!

I do however, strongly agree with "too many rights with no responsibility". It's a two sided coin. Rights are balanced by responsibilities. Or should be.

**Skyryder** · 27th March 2010, 11:53

Originally Posted by slofox

Geez, Scummy - go easy - you'll make yourself sound ike a redneck..!

I do however, strongly agree with "too many rights with no responsibility". It's a two sided coin. Rights are balanced by responsibilities. Or should be.

Absolutely.......................but herin lies the problem...............rights are only 'exercised' when someone is abusing them.

Skyyrder

**red mermaid** · 27th March 2010, 14:03

You really should get out in the real world.

Rights are exercised all the time by those who dont want to do as they are required by proper statute to do.

A case that comes to mind is Scott Watson who exercised his rights.

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Absolutely.......................but herin lies the problem...............rights are only 'exercised' when someone is abusing them.

Skyyrder