Death by Boy Racer

[onearmedbandit]

Yes it's a clip from a NZ drifting programme on TV.

Rallying makes a good example. They have been doing it for years but seem to be able to keep a handle on it by self policing itself with strict rules. Like anybody getting caught doing unofficial practice runs on a stretch of road or having competition numbers on a car when not competing gets banned.

Drifting to the car world is about as stupid as stunting is to the motorcycle world. Imagine the image of motorcycle in NZ if stunting became even more popular and had its own TV programme inspiring all the young wankers that are hitting the streets.

Plenty of drivers in WRX's and Evo's who think they're rally drivers, sliding their 4wd's around tight corners in town, and more than once I've seen sideways action on shingle roads in these (and many other cars as well). Or ar these drivers 'drifters' instead? Regardless, while it's less prolific than boyracers it could still be called an issue. I do agree with the distinction you make in regards to the different behaviours from the different disciplines, but as you say rallying has been around a long time, and I dare say it started off as a group of young guys on shingle roads (which were in higher numbers than they are today, therefore closer to built-up areas) racing their shitboxes. Not the well organised and accepted sport it is today. Who knows, maybe in 10yrs time drifting will be well on it's way to a similar level.

And I'm sure there were people back in the day bemoaning the youth and their antics 'rallying' around their homes. Just they didn't have the internet to log on to!

Like I said, Ruapuna is expensive. And FFS a cement strip hardly costs a bomb. And it pays itself back in reduced cop time wastage.

And I dont know about you, but when I finally went on track and could do things at stupid speeds safely, it actually got the monkey off my back and I felt no need to go fast at all on the road after that. No more 'points to prove' as it were.

Ruapuna isn't that expensive to be honest, but the Canterbury Car Club wouldn't tolerate their behaviour on the track, and as well they shouldn't. I agree with you about a shift in attitude after going to the track, but I don't think you or I ride to 'show off', as these guys like to do.

[Indiana_Jones]

We wouldn't have this boy racer problem if they all owned Leyland cars.

They'd be working on this 95% of the time lol

-Indy

[onearmedbandit]

We wouldn't have this boy racer problem if they all owned Leyland cars.

They'd be working on this 95% of the time lol

-Indy

Yeah but the 5% of the time they'd be on the road would be utter carnage lol.

[SMOKEU]

I've spoken to several people who are in the 50s and 60s, and they said when they were in their teens they would chop the exhaust off right after the headers on their cars, and drive around drunk and do burnouts. Apparently back then it was considered normal teenage behaviour, and the cops would just tell them to piss off and go home, these days that kind of behaviour is considered just as bad as beating someone up and robbing them.

[onearmedbandit]

Yep, know plenty of 'normal everday citizens' in this age group who pushed the limits back in their day. Regular races up Moorhouse Ave in worse pieces of shit than todays kids drive, combined with a belly full of piss. Their 'defence' generally is 'we didn't know better'. Sure, no one had commonsense back then.

[FJRider]

Yep, know plenty of 'normal everday citizens' in this age group who pushed the limits back in their day.

and the rest gave the "limits" a dam good shunt up the arse ... and "sustained loss of traction" only occured when the brakes WORKED ...

[R-Soul]

Ruapuna isn't that expensive to be honest, but the Canterbury Car Club wouldn't tolerate their behaviour on the track, and as well they shouldn't. I agree with you about a shift in attitude after going to the track, but I don't think you or I ride to 'show off', as these guys like to do.

Yes the Car club don't like them on their track, and the cops dont like them on their road, so where then? This is why they need a dedicated facility where they can blow off steam and show off in safer surroundings that are acoustically removed from sleepy suburban neighbourhoods.

These guys have oodles of testosterone and hormones flowing every which way. If there is a car challenge, having a dedicated facility thats always available, and free, will give them a means of deflecting any potentially dangerous situations tio safer environments if they have to go and prove points against eeach other. I am pretty sure nobody WANTS to put themselves, their cash, their cars, their licenses and other peoples lives at risk.

It's just that, in true youngster fashion, its about the principle of facing the challenge and meeting the adrelnaline rush face to face that overcomes the common sense in the heat of the moment. I think we all get this, we have all been there and done that, one way or another.

By deflecting the competition to a safer place, it may even reduce that actual number of races, because the time delay gives them a chance to cool off.

[R-Soul]

I've spoken to several people who are in the 50s and 60s, and they said when they were in their teens they would chop the exhaust off right after the headers on their cars, and drive around drunk and do burnouts. Apparently back then it was considered normal teenage behaviour, and the cops would just tell them to piss off and go home, these days that kind of behaviour is considered just as bad as beating someone up and robbing them.

I would say that commonsense has finally kicked in- especialy where drink is involved. After all - lets face it- its just dumb having someone pissed behind the wheel of a 1 and a half ton, 400bhp killing machine.

Fact is we cant change it they will do it- but we can give them a place to do this kind of shit where there arent trees and toddlers on the sidewalk.

[Headbanger]

I've spoken to several people who are in the 50s and 60s, and they said when they were in their teens they would chop the exhaust off right after the headers on their cars, and drive around drunk and do burnouts. Apparently back then it was considered normal teenage behaviour, and the cops would just tell them to piss off and go home, these days that kind of behaviour is considered just as bad as beating someone up and robbing them.

Yeah,and their cars weighed 4.3 tonne, went 72 mph, and needed 12 miles to get up to speed.

Plus,Dear old dad would give them a thick ear when the neighbours complained.

Hell, even 20 years ago a fast car was out of reach for just about everybody, When I was 16 I simply could not get credit, Instead I saved up and bought a yellow Cortina station wagon ffs, The only way to crash that baby was to get so bored you fell asleep. As it was I was ordered by the police to sell it or they were going to pull me up and issue tickets every time they saw me on the road.

And as for my oldboy tearing up the streets in his Humber 80.....

[roadracingoldfart]

If it resulted in you killing a child I'd want you charged with manslaughter as well.

Why do people think its just fine to kill people with cars?

What if I was using a chainsaw, sneezed , cut somebodies head off? would that be cool?

With logic like that im bumbfounded to think of a reply , yes you are correct and im just stoopid , i will try to emmulate you from now on.

Fuck i just thought of something ....... what if this murdering boy race actually had a chainsaw in his boot , wow you are a genius Mr Holmes.

[JimO]

I've spoken to several people who are in the 50s and 60s, and they said when they were in their teens they would chop the exhaust off right after the headers on their cars, and drive around drunk and do burnouts. Apparently back then it was considered normal teenage behaviour, and the cops would just tell them to piss off and go home, these days that kind of behaviour is considered just as bad as beating someone up and robbing them.

in the 70s it was MK3 Zephyrs

[scumdog]

Wow, I didn't know so many KB members witnessed this accident first hand. And to think the poor confused mother of the little child killed has got it sooo wrong saying he wasn't a boy racer. I mean, come on lady, he is young and drives a Nissan Silvia, gotta be a boy racer don't he.

Yep, the good o'l KB way of doing things things, raging assumptions and rampant guesswork..

[Headbanger]

Yep, the good o'l KB way of doing things things, raging assumptions and rampant guesswork..

psssst.....................Its the cops with the credibility problem.

Discussion of current events on a discussion board pales in comparison.

[Flip]

I've spoken to several people who are in the 50s and 60s, and they said when they were in their teens they would chop the exhaust off right after the headers on their cars, and drive around drunk and do burnouts. Apparently back then it was considered normal teenage behaviour, and the cops would just tell them to piss off and go home, these days that kind of behaviour is considered just as bad as beating someone up and robbing them.

And because you have found a few old hoons it makes the boy racer behaviour ok does it?

I can take you for a drive on Thursday, Friday and Saturday night around Christchurch and show you thousands of morons out driving around in circles looking for trouble.

[Kickaha]

And because you have found a few old hoons it makes the boy racer behaviour ok does it?

I can take you for a drive on Thursday, Friday and Saturday night around Christchurch and show you thousands of morons out driving around in circles looking for trouble.

Doesn't sound to much different from what I remember 25-30 years ago, the only difference now is it so much easier to finance a car and the numbers are bigger and with mobile phones it's much easier to organise