Pre89 Senior YSS Suspension FZR1000, Vic R1

[codgyoleracer]

With this thread running, I'm suprised you have time to ride! Maybe you should fit a netbook to the bikes cockpit so you can receive and impliment suspension tips from kb on the fly!
Seriously though, have fun and try not to make the opposition look too bad. (saves on tyres too hehe)

This thread certainly took off, far to many ppl intertested in old crappy bikes , ridden by old farts I say.........

[Peter Smith]

This thread certainly took off, far to many ppl intertested in old crappy bikes , ridden by old farts I say.........

Old crappy bikes, you must be refering to Yammies, and you and Mossy aren't that old.

[Shaun]

This thread certainly took off, far to many ppl intertested in old crappy bikes , ridden by old farts I say.........

I enjoyed it, as i was not talking shit in it for once, man I laughed


PS Robert

Thanks for the reference on here

[PeeJay]

When you actually know a lot more about suspension including friction reduction to the nth degree, cleverly arranged coefficients of expansion, well tested internal valving calibration specific to each and every model and comparing things apples for apples...then please feel qualified to present a better argument.
Most of our customers are road going who for the most part ride at moderate speeds, they want great control but also with superb ride quality. The better the quality of manufacture, material choices and design, the exhaustive testing, they all contribute to that. You will get a better result with a higher end shock such as WP, Penske and that Swedish brand. My customers understand that and so will many new ones.
Checking out our new pricing they are indeed worth the few extra dollars, especially also that the residual value is very very good.
In a previous post I listed business associates, people that I trust. I f there is one thing I cant stand in dealing with anyone its BS and lies. Like the guy on Trade Me recently trying to sell a Sachs shock and blatantly passing that off as an Ohlins. We had that stopped pretty quickly.
The best youve ridden is the best you know or to put it another ( brutal ) way ignorance is bliss.

Now you are just trying to baffle me with BS
There is only one question that needs to be answered regarding suspension changes
Is it better than before?
Regarding our managers 883, he had a particular problem when riding, after 1/2 an hour he had a sore arse. He fitted YSS and now he doesnt get a sore arse.
Simple problem, simple cost effective solution.
No one is saying ohlins wouldnt have worked as well or better, but why spend the extra $$$ when there is no need?
He just wants to ride his bike without getting a sore arse. He doesnt care how cleverly you can arrange coefficients of expansion
Nothing wrong with "ignorance is bliss"
After all you dont need a degree in aeronautics or even need to understand the principles of flight to get on a 747 to LA
You dont stop your brain surgery so you can spend a couple of years learning about brain surgery.
You dont need to know big words like coefficient of friction to know that when you turn the steering wheel the car will turn a corner
You dont need to be a computer engineer to understand that when you push the keys the letters appear on the screen.
And you dont need to know the internal workings of a shock absorber in order to know if its working for you or not.

Trying to prove you know more big words than me doesnt negate my argument.
Do you believe a motorcycle is an example of synergy? or are the shock absorbers completely independent ?

[Robert Taylor]

Now you are just trying to baffle me with BS
There is only one question that needs to be answered regarding suspension changes
Is it better than before?
Regarding our managers 883, he had a particular problem when riding, after 1/2 an hour he had a sore arse. He fitted YSS and now he doesnt get a sore arse.
Simple problem, simple cost effective solution.
No one is saying ohlins wouldnt have worked as well or better, but why spend the extra $$$ when there is no need?
He just wants to ride his bike without getting a sore arse. He doesnt care how cleverly you can arrange coefficients of expansion
Nothing wrong with "ignorance is bliss"
After all you dont need a degree in aeronautics or even need to understand the principles of flight to get on a 747 to LA
You dont stop your brain surgery so you can spend a couple of years learning about brain surgery.
You dont need to know big words like coefficient of friction to know that when you turn the steering wheel the car will turn a corner
You dont need to be a computer engineer to understand that when you push the keys the letters appear on the screen.
And you dont need to know the internal workings of a shock absorber in order to know if its working for you or not.

Trying to prove you know more big words than me doesnt negate my argument.
Do you believe a motorcycle is an example of synergy? or are the shock absorbers completely independent ?

Ok put it this way, go for a ride with what has been fitted then go for a ride with the product we distribute, I know only too damn well which ones youll prefer. Its a very real point of difference that in the real world is very apparent. Im not saying that what has been fitted is ''no good'' Im saying that what we offer is measurably better. Simple.
I apologise profusely for having the temerity to use large words and to try and explain things.

[sinfull]

My FXR tramlines quite badly !

[SS90]

As a matter of interest, here in Europe, the same YSS shock used on Glenns bike retails for 390€ (NZ$705)

http://www.so-products.com/fileadmin..._09-09-09_.pdf

(not including the revalving/springing that comes with the price if your purchase from Dukic suspension for NZ$1190), and, an Öhlins TTX-36 can set you back over €1000 (NZ$1950) retail (again, with no set up)

I think CKT have them for NZ$1499 (with set up)

Perhaps it could be that NZ has it better than the rest of the world when it comes to suspension service for bikes.

Having worked in the motorcycle industry worldwide for 15 years, I have been told many times that even though NZ is a tiny market globally, apparently we winge louder than most.

Go figure.

[White trash]

Hey , dont try n Associate me with that Sherriff of Fielding fella, he's the one that has a stronghold on sandpits...........

Nah, he's just trying to emulate his racing hero, Jamie McNair. Got a ways to go yet I might add, friggen amateur......

[White trash]

This thread is fricken SWEET!!!

[codgyoleracer]

This thread is fricken SWEET!!!

I agree , it has got out of control, - but then you would understand that "out of control" bit......... :-)

[Kickaha]

Nah, he's just trying to emulate his racing hero, Jamie McNair. Got a ways to go yet I might add, friggen amateur......

Yeah he'd have to crash a lot more for a start

I agree , it has got out of control, - but then you would understand that "out of control" bit......... :-)

I think the control bit could be fixed by fitting Ohlins

[mossy1200]

Old crappy bikes, you must be refering to Yammies, and you and Mossy aren't that old.

Its not age thats my limiting factor since im early 20s Peter(premature old age looks due to being sparky)its generally a lack of fitness and eye hand coordination.

Im going to fit a yss rear suspender on mine and we will see what difference it makes on the track seeing as i have riden mine stock for 2 years the times will indicate how well it works.I decided to do this 3 months ago and and Kerry advised me to allow Codgy to run it and get good settings on the FZR so that mine could replicate his set up.Seeming a good idea to me.
I have RT front end already so im a bob each way hows that.

[codgyoleracer]

Its not age thats my limiting factor since im early 20s Peter(premature old age looks due to being sparky)its generally a lack of fitness and eye hand coordination.

Im going to fit a yss rear suspender on mine and we will see what difference it makes on the track seeing as i have riden mine stock for 2 years the times will indicate how well it works.I decided to do this 3 months ago and and Kerry advised me to allow Codgy to run it and get good settings on the FZR so that mine could replicate his set up.Seeming a good idea to me.
I have RT front end already so im a bob each way hows that.

Great to hear of the upgrade Mossy !, better pull my finga out. P.S , bring a rain coat and a nice wooly jumper n mittens.......

[ktm]

Nah, it's going to be sunny, 20 degrees......(somewhere in the world).....long as it's not bloody raining!

[schrodingers cat]

I have RT front end already so im a bob each way hows that.

So if you highside RT is better and if you lowside YSS is the way forward...